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A Seed for Contemplation

When greater amounts of divine love
come in, we must give out greater
service.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When greater amounts of divine love
come in, we must give out greater
service.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When you work with the fullness of
heart, the golden heart, you find things
are being done right you never
realized were being done right. This
occurs when there is balance and you
have the perception to see the true
value of things that come into your
life.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ chieveboy

Now, @benodic you once said that when
one is thinking or imagining; some one at
the mental plane could easily see what they
are thinking, l ask if there are people up
there in the mental plane who could
possibly use that to their advantage. lets
assume am thinking of doing something for
the very first time on the physical, will that
guy work a fast one on me --assuming he's
faster one way or the other?

i do not think so. The mental plane is home to lots of original ideas floating around in its ethers waiting for those who are matured enough to tap into it and use it for the upliftment of mankind.

secondly; from one of your comments, you
said their are Eckmasters and they are
divided into various specialization and one
could make contact
with them according to what interest the
seeker. l wonder if their are Masters
\Eckmasters who specialize on stuffs like
music, machines,computers and sorts?

There are ECK Masters that specialize in all aspects of life including music, science, architecture, herbs etc.

what master is Yeshua?

Yeshua was a Master of the Christ Consciousness.

Can one be a 'Master' and not be an 'Eck
master' ie are they different words
meaning different things? Thanks

yes.
There are different levels of mastership. ECK Mastership is a level of total detachment from all material things known as Vairag. It is a level of Mastership where Soul becomes a pure channel for the Holy Spirit and only seeks to serve all life and carry out the will of God in life without any hesitation.

Remain blessed

A Seed for Contemplation

A gift of true love is always God’s love to you that you give to another.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ Cmanforall

Hi ben,can you elaborate on the quote
below.especially the fasting part,is it same
fasting christian do.
Fast continuously from all Kal (negative)
thoughts which could infect your mental
state and consciousness. Through this you
learn the powerful awareness of the
presence of the Living ECK Master, who is
with you constantly.

Fasting continuously from negative thoughts is known as Mental Fasting. It is the recommended fasting for Eckist as it is used to discipline the mind. It is different from the Christian fast because in Mental Fast, you are free to eat and carry out all your activities but in every thing you do, you keep your attention on God and you do not allow any negative thought into your mind and you do not say any negative word that will hurt others nor do you carry out any negative action that is detrimental to others.

My second question.since I started singing
Hu I dreamt about the future twice,this has
never happened before.what does it
mean,do things happen in the spiritual
before the physical.when I had them I did't
know it was about the future until it
happened,how do I know incase of next
time.Fear still creeps in,would appreciate
any advise on that.

i told you before that once you start singing the HU, your spiritual awareness will start expanding and you can start having the kind of experiences you just shared.

Of course before anything happens here in the physical it takes place in the spiritual planes first. Those with the spiritual awareness are able to see it. There is nothing to fear. These are natural abilities of Soul which singing of the HU will restore to Soul.

How you will know is through the discipline of writing down your dreams as you wake up and spending some time to contemplate on them. In contemplation ask the Holy Spirit to reveal its meaning to you.

@ chieveboy

hey benodic l find these statements quite
tough:"Discrimination. Learn to discriminate
between all things, that there is no good nor
evil, no beauty nor ugliness, and no sin.
These are all concepts of the mind, the dual
forces in the matter worlds. Once you
recognize and understand this, you will
then be free of Kal traps. You will be ready
to enter into the Kingdom of God, the Ocean
of Love and Mercy. You will be the ECK, of
Itself"
most interesting is that the mind actually
generated the idea of good and bad! also
that there is no good and bad? if its not
good nor bad, then what is it?
l accept 'No sin'. l guess its the reason there
is no good and bad, i've been thinking :/ so
all is just whatever .
and this mind has so many myth around it

you have to realise that the mind is the greatest obstacle that Soul needs to overcome in order to enter the true spiritual worlds. It is the mind that creates dichotomies and classifies things into good and bad, beautiful and ugly etc. If you look at life from the view point of Soul, you will discover that there are no dichotomies or divisions. All is one.

The only thing there is, are the causes that Soul sets into motion and the lessons it learns from the effects of these causes. When you rise above the mind, you become a pure channel for the Holy Spirit, the ECK. All the causes you put into motion comes only from the God centre within you and is only for the upliftment of all life, then you have become the ECK of Itself.

A Seed for Contemplation

Few realize that a deep love for God
also implies a love for learning.
Harold Klemp

The Language of Soul

@ LagosShia

thanks for your reply. Point of correction, i am not a Christian. I am a member of ECKANKAR, Religion of the Light and Sound of God whose foundation is built on loving all life.

From what i could conclude from your reply there is pretty nothing much you educated Muslims can do about the murderous nature of non educated ignorant Muslims as you too are under threat from them.
That means that we are on our own and we guys that are still living in the northern part of Nigeria will have to keep looking over our shoulder and praying to God to keep us save from those that will not think twice about killing us in the name of a religion.

Remain blessed

@ LagosShia and co.

all these explanations makes me very curious. and what i want to ask is what are you learned Muslims doing in educating the misguided ones that are killing people mostly in the northern part of Nigeria where ignorance amongst the northern muslims is a palpable threat to non muslims who live in fear of their muslims neigbours who they do not know when next they will attack and annihilate them.  i can never condemn Islam as a Religion because i have Muslims friends who are from the south and middle belt of Nigeria. those people are a pride to the Religion.
my problem lies on the picture that the Hausas in the Northern part of Nigeria has painted about the
Religion where they kill people at a drop of a hat in the name of Islam. why i am saying this is, if a member of my religion is carrying out actions that is detrimental to others, i will not just stand by and do nothing because all of us in my religion will be held responsible. as i said before a Religion will always be judged by the actions of its followers no matter what that religion claims to stand for.

A Seed for Contemplation

Before we love God, we must love all
things with the high kind of love,
which is called charity. We become the
best we can be through the discipline
of divine love.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ BootyOnMe

thanks for your support.

Life is really all about learning love and then practicing that love. Once you are able to achieve that no matter what your religion is , then you have not lived your life in vain.

A Seed for Contemplation

Our body is a temple of God. We must
take care of it because it is a house for
Soul.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Many times the bounties of the Holy
Spirit are held back from us because
we don’t ask. We want something to
come into our lives, and we just sit and
wait. But if we ask for it, we may just
get it.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ chieveboy

of course you can generate your own spiritual exercise and you can also adapt existing one to fit your need. In spiritual matters you have to be very flexible and nimble and open to the flow of the Holy Spirit guiding you from moment to moment.

Remain blessed

@ otheloze

In actual fact Jehovah is not a tribal God.
Of course there are other gods that are in charge of other planes.

The problem i have is that most of my browsing is done on a phone which does not support yahoo messenger. The few times i try to browse on my laptop with a modem , the speed is so slow that it is difficult opening yahoo messenger.
You can send your private questions to my gmail or my yahoo mail for now.

Thanks and remain blessed

@ otheloze

like i said earlier, Jehovah is in charge of the 2nd plane. His work is to create illusions for Soul. To make Soul think that He is the almighty God. Souls caught up in this web can remain at that level for several incarnations until they are able to see beyond this illusion. It is all part of God's educational plan for soul and truth will never come to those who are docile but to those who are bold and adventurous.

On the part of Sango and Ogun they are much lower in the hierarchy as they are in charge of Elemental Spirits that run the physical or 1st plane.

Remain blessed

@ otheloze

Quote from: benodic on November 17, 2011, 09:51 PM
@ narttis1

Psalms 91 verse 14 :" Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will i deliver him. i will set him on high, because he hath known my name"
verse 15: " He shall call upon me, and i will answer him. i will be with him in trouble, i will deliver him, and honour

DEAR BEN TOP OF THE DAY TO YOU AND MAY YOUR PATH BE FULL OF BLESSINGS AND THE LOVE OF GOD, BEN YOUR QUOTED THE ABOVE FROM PSALM which God was speaking in that verse, having it in mind that the bible God is Yahweh or Jehovah, which God is the HU song directed to

The HU song is directed to the Almighty God which in ECK we refer to as The Sugmad. The almighty God is not a tribal god and It does not have a favourite race nor does it have a favourite religion or language. It is only concerned with Soul completing Its lessons and coming back home to It to become a co-worker with It.
all those concepts of God having a religious and tribal bias are all concepts steming from the ego of man who always want to lord it over his fellow man when in reality we are all one before God.

I will also like to ask, how do we pray or is it just singing the HU song, as lately i have been saying our lords prayer which some ho feels abit incomplete to me

there are so many ways of praying and you have to experiment to find the one that fits your state of consciousness that will enable you to see the light and hear the sound of God. the unique thing about the HU song is that It fits all states of consciousness and does not belong to any tribe, any language or any religion. God gave it out to Souls to use in finding their way back home to It. so the HU song makes a very good starting point. if you are a christian you can also try singing JESUS or CHRIST or GOD in a long drawn out way for 15 to 20 minutes and then remain silent and listen, in contemplation you can ask:" God show me the truth" then watch what happens.

remain blessed

@ numo86 (m)

i hav just a lil question, if d ecks can always travel to d heavenly realm when they wanna,why travel back to this satan ruled worldwhy not stay there & experience God fully witout problems, instead of comin bak to get sick,face our silly 9ja politicians,experience earthquakes n accidents, , i mean this earth was created for man,why travel to experience God and then return, it makes no sense, u gotta choose where to be,

Earth was created for the purpose of providing an enabling environment for Soul to grow spiritually and develop the qualities of God then and only then can It go home permanently. but before that Soul has the privilege of temporary visiting the Heavenly planes through the process of Soul Travel. Soul Travel serves the purpose of reminding Soul that it is a stranger here and is here for a purpose which if It accomplishes it, Soul can then choose to stay in the heavenly worlds permanently or to return and help other Souls to find their way home.

and again u said u d ecks dont depend or study d examples of faithful persons just as christians do, so why depend on past eckists like u said that have passed on to other realms to help u, ??, is that unanimous with ancestral worship??, i need answers,

Eckists do study the examples of other spiritual giants who have graced the earth but we do not stop there. we also work very hard to become spiritual giants like them. Soul owes it as a duty to itself to grow in spiritual awareness and become a master in its own right and then help others. The past masters are always available to help any soul who ask for their help but unfortunately many people have forgotten how to get in touch with them. it has absolutely nothing to do with ancestral worship.

A Seed for Contemplation

Today someone said to another
person, "You are so lovely."
And the other person answered,
"Because you are seeing yourself."
And of course, it caught the first
person by surprise. Generally we see in
others what we are ourselves
.
Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When greater amounts of divine love
come in, we must give out greater
service.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

God’s love is always working to help
Soul find Its way back home.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ narttis1

is there any biblical background for the singing of HU?

Psalms 91 verse 14 :" Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will i deliver him. i will set him on high, because he hath known my name"
verse 15: " He shall call upon me, and i will answer him. i will be with him in trouble, i will deliver him, and honour him.
That name is HU. it was removed from Bible by the priest craft because they want people to continue coming to them for deliverance instead of relying solely on this Holy name of God. Now Eckankar is giving back to the world what was hidden from them by the priest craft. we are not asking any body to believe it. you have to prove it for yourself that this truly is the Holy name of God.

I had an ECK friend, and he has some pictures of some strange looking people and he said they are past eck masters living in some other planes.can you explain the roles of these past eck masters in the lives of living ecks like you today?

Those past ECK Masters work with the Present Living ECK Master to bring the Truth to those Souls who are ready for it. Each Master is a specialist in one area of spirituality. so if you need training or more understanding in a particular area, that ECK Master who is a specialist in that area can come and provide more insight for you.

also, explain what you mean by soul travel and how does it work.

Soul Travel is simply expansion of the consciousness to encompass other realms or planes which ordinary human senses can not penetrate. It is also the process of Soul going back to God.
The process of Soul Travel involves Soul withdrawing its attention from the outside world and focusing it on the third eye or window of Soul which is the space between the two eyebrows. Soul then moves out into the heavenly worlds when this window opens to explore those planes and it then comes back with the memory of its journey intact.
Singing of the Holy Name of God HU, is a very simple way of starting this Journeys into the Heavenly worlds.

thanks and remain blessed

A Seed for Contemplation

This is how we work with Divine Spirit.
We try to look at life and find the
laughter wherever we can, whenever
we can, because laughter is the healer.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ cmanforall

Hi Ben, how can one touch the robe of GOD. Thanks

one can touch the robe of GOD by experiencing the Light and Sound of God. This is made possible through doing the Spiritual Exercises, the commonest being the singing of HU as a love song to GOD.

A Seed for Contemplation

The secret to getting rid of fear is
opening the heart.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed For Contemplation

To the man who has touched the robe of God there is no distinction of race or belief, no consciousness of nationality, and no religious difference. The ECK has cleared away all conflicts and oppositions from his mental processes.

The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad
Book One, P. 32

A Seed for Contemplation

If you fill your consciousness with the
positive aspects of Divine Spirit, there
is no vacuum where the negative may
enter.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

Madness is already judgement

A Seed For Contemplation

The methods of Eckankar state explicitly how to find this state of consciousness which exists within Soul.
The road leading to this state, which is the kingdom of heaven, starts behind the eyes at a point between the eyebrows. This is the Tenth Door, which leads Soul to the original heavenly home from which it started eons ago.
When all consciousness is withdrawn from the body to focus at this point then the marvelous journey of Soul begins.

The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad
Book One, p. 12

A Seed for Contemplation

Becoming a conscious vehicle for God requires that you become the very best you can possibly be, no matter what you choose to do.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ chieveboy

thank you.

you are very welcome.
i am here for you in case you have any questions as you make your own individual journey back home to God.