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Kanaga Jr!! Their papa!! The basketball guru. The only general!! My boy in whom I'm well pleased. Give them!! I'm so happy for you boy. Hopefully nobody else nears your score.

Sanqa:
Ebubu? I'm not going to ask about the 4th one

Forgot to add him. He was flawless too.

Miracle is headed straight to Nollywood. What a gem. Him, Ebubu and Tsatsii have been absolutely brilliant!!

Geezeem:
Some people have raised this point and I didn't bother as I believe I was clear enough

Miracle felt the need to approach the people Yemi 'disgraced' him to.... it's not a biggy. This is a game... no one should tarnish anyone and go free

Everyone is allowed to do one on one discussion... Yemi even asked Ebubu to go and speak to miracle at a point and went back to Ebubu to ask what miracle said.... for what nah?

All he had to know about the incident were already aired before he started the one and one talks

Go back to the video

During the exchange with Miracle... what took place between the washer and the washees were already revealed... since he needed a meeting, going back again for "facts" finding was doing damage to Miracle

Did he find additional information or something different from those he spoke to?

The main person he approached to talk about the issue was Yvonne. Juicy & Olivia called him to talk with him about the issue, he didn't call them. But let's move past that.

Geezeem:
The difference is that Yemi spoke yesterday as the head of house... not as Yemi

If he spoke as Yemi, are you telling me Miracle would have sat there and listened to him without responding in kind?

Sometimes don't be in a hurry to write.... read to digest first please

A head of house has no biz speaking in that manner since he is a representative of biggy while on that role

This is my point

And yes... I hope Miracle returns the favor

.... plus I never used to pay these guys much attention in the past so the bolded is not necessary

Apologies if the emboldened came off wrongly.

About the rest of your post, I'd counter it but the issue has dragged on for too long, so let's just move on till the next episode of the Yemi-Miracle never-ending saga.

scondy:
How can this be a rule? In a house full of adults...

I tire. Imagine Juicy decided to help Yemi wash his plate and Miracle says no that the rule, not from Biggie, forbids it. No be madness be that?

DoubleeDee:
That Miracle had a good intention in protecting Ebubu is not in dispute.
Accepting to help out and then expressing a personal (not Ebubu's) complaint showed a malicious intent.
Ebubu didn't feel it was a big deal, so why make it so? Miracle's outburst was totally unjustified.
You can't shave a man's head in his absence.

This!!

Amya:
You seem the only one to hear these thing.

Her story has always been that Ebubu offered to help them wash. Even her DS few minutes ago was her reiterating the same thing. No where did she mention them insisting on washing it themselves.

If you watched how they were treating Ebubu this morning, you won't be saying these things. The girls are all too happy to send him on errands and treat him like the help.

I don't seem to be anything. I didn't use the DS as my example, I told you about the discussion Olivia had with Juicy when she called him out to tell him that Miracle is instigating things again. I'm talking of another scenario and you are talking of diary session.


As for the way the girls are treating Ebubu, you once again are not following my argument. I said that Miracle's intention came from a good place but he went about it the wrong way. Yemi had nothing to do with it, Olivia and Yvonne were innocent & Miracle should've talked to Ebubu about his perceived opinion about the HMs using him to wash their dishes. That's how it's meant to be not trying to force Ebubu to do what he wants and involving others in it. Also, other HMs do wash the plates of others. Ebubu's plates have been washed by others, so why are we just focusing on Ebubu alone?

Ebubu is a 28-year-old man, if he can't speak up for himself, especially if Miracle had talked to him privately, then Miracle should move and stop trying to make people live their lives according to his values. If Ebubu still doesn't want to listen to things from Miracle's POV, what should Miracle do then? Throw him out of the house or chain Ebubu to do his wishes?

Amya:
You had to add your own pepper and onions.

I didn't. When Olivia was talking to Juicy Jay, that's what she said. She told Juicy that she and Yvonne wanted to STILL wash it themselves after Ebubu told the first time he will wash the plates, but Ebubu still instead.

Geezeem:
And the people Miracle went to?

Yemi spoke with those involved - Ipeleng & Miracle who brought the issue up, Yvonne, and Juicy Jay & Olivia who actually called him to talk about it.

Miracle on the other hand talked to those not even involved from Thabang, to Kanaga to Nelissa etc.

Geezeem:
All I needed to say , have been said on this

I hope Miracle revisit the way Yemi stood up yesterday , raised his voice and kept using swear words on him....he must treat that disrespect

That's all I am looking forward to

At least it's been clear that Yemi wasn't supposed to be involved in this as it didn't concern him so Miracle should have left him out of it, Ebubu did no wrong and Yvonne & Olivia were innocent. Nothing else matters to me.


BTW, you hoping that Miracle revisits the way Yemi stood up, "raised his voice" and kept using swear words makes me laugh. I'm nearly forced to ask if you are indeed watching this show or just hell-bent on throwing away facts when Yemi is involved, because Miracle called Yemi "půssy" at the bathroom area the night of the truth or dare game, Miracle also told Yemi to "shut the the fûck up" on the night of the T or D game which made Yemi react.


I guess calling Yemi "pûssy" or telling Yemi to "shut the fûck up" is romantic and kind words to you. LMAO.

scondy:
On the contrary, Miracle was the sly one. Firstly, Ebubu offered to wash the plates ...d assistance wasn't solicited by the ladies....secondly Miracle offered to wash in Ebubu's stead....again it was unsolicited....then why turn around to project Ebubu as an invalid or degraded housemate simply because he chooses to assist in washing plates...what is so out of the ordinary for Ebubu to consistently wash plates if he so wishes...

Is Ebubu a child that needs to be advocated for? Did Ebubu complain ? The whole charade was to make it seem like the house isn't treating Ebubu fairly but how is that so? When it's not like they instructed him. A 28 year old surely does not need to be spoken for. Reason why Ebubu himself wasn't down with it. That's a dig at his manhood and individualism. Miracle is projecting him as a coward that can be trampled upon whereas he has no such issues. Why should he side with Miracle? Did he complain to him? Why did Miracle offer to wash in his stead if he would end up complaining?

Miracle as usual was trying to form messiah and morally upright individual...his scheme was dead on arrival as he was called out of his bullcrap...

Didn't even see your posts before I made mine. It's like you took everything in my head word for word and posted it. Gracias!!

Geezeem:
He came off as a sly person last night

He is one of those I was indifferent to in that house before yesterday.... with a touch of pity.

But not anymore after last night....

I might get over it, I don't know

You're letting go of your pity for Ebubu because you dislike Yemi and wanted him to back Miracle who is making a mountain out of a molehill, not that Ebubu was wrong. Why don't you let go of your pity because Ebubu is ACTUALLY wrong not because you wanted him to support a situation that shouldn't even be an issue?


Ebubu chose to help some HMs do their dishes from the first week till date sometimes, and he has never complained about it. Other HMs have helped Ebubu was his plates too. Have you seen Ebubu complaining to anyone about it? Did Miracle have a conversation with Ebubu to know if the young man has any issue with it? Did Yvonne & Olivia not want to wash their plates before Ebubu insisted? Did Juicy Jay not confirm that he also helps others wash their plates sometimes especially Yemi when he's already washing his plates? So, why exactly is this Ebubu own that annoying to you when Jaypee, Miracle, Juicy Jay & others do help others to wash their dishes and it's not a problem? I can say it's because Yemi got roped in it. If it was Yaya, I don't think you'd have problem with it.

The only way to truly address this issue is to follow the chain of events and see that the fault of last night's issue was on Miracle, or majorly on Miracle at least. Some people are making it look like Yemi fans are criticizing Miracle because he has few fans but that's not true in this case in particular.

Ebubu was washing plates last night when Yvonne & Olivia went to wash their plates. On seeing them, he told them that he'd help them wash the plates. They told him he shouldn't worry about it but he insisted that it's nothing and he'd do it as he's already washing the plates. They gave it him, thanked him and left. They wanted to their by themselves it must be noted. Miracle came into the kitchen and when Biggie announced that hot water was available, he told Ebubu to leave the plates and go take his bath before the time elapses. Ebubu didn't want to go at first but he insisted that he will help him with the rest of the plates. Now it must be noted that Ebubu has been doing this for weeks and hasn't complained to anyone. I've seen Jaypee even wash the plates of all HMs. I've seen Miracle do it in his first week too.

Now, Ipeleng having joined Miracle at the kitchen saw Yemi walking by and raised the issue of HMs not washing their plates (which is wrong BTW) and that was when Miracle also complained too and we had the scene between Miracle & Yemi where Yemi was saying that if Ebubu chose on his volition to do the dishes, then it's on Ebubu. Miracle was saying that the HMs might use the advantage that Ebubu is quiet and won't say no to make him continue washing the plates but Yemi told him that he's already done a roster for different works and if Ebubu wants to help and do the plates of other HMs, then it's his choice. He also said he'd address the situation to Miracle's hearing and I remember Miracle telling Ipeleng after Yemi left that he won't allow Ebubu continue washing the plates of his friends. Like that no matter what Yemi said, he won't agree to it.

Now this is what I feel about the whole issue. While I think Miracle had good intentions and his complaints came from a good place to fight for Ebubu, he went about it the wrong way. You can have good intentions but the way you act or things you say can ruin your true motives. Miracle shouldn't have even involved Yemi in any of this because there was no need to. What Mircale should've done was to approach Ebubu in private and let Ebubu know that though he feels that Ebubu is a kind person, he thinks that other HMs might be taking the kind-heartedness of Ebubu to always go to wash their plates when Ebubu is washing his, knowing Ebubu might end up washing their plates for them because Ebubu usually does this.

Then if Ebubu insists it's nothing, he'd walk away from it. Simple. Miracle needs to understand that he's dealing with grown-ass folks who can act anyhow they want as long as it doesn't break Biggie's rules. You can only advice someone but you can't tell them how to live their lives. Ebubu hasn't complained to anyone, why is he fighting for nothing then? He needs to stop being this Mr Moral Police who knows what's good and bad and will tell people how to live their lives. Nobody tells him how to live his life, why must he think he can do the same for other? It's one of the major issues Khosi has with him. Every single time, he'd keep telling Khosi that Yemi disrespects her but the girl tells him she wants to be with Yemi and he'd let her make her relationship choices. Miracle needs to stop fighting people's battles when he's not involved in it. In short, this wasn't even an issue because Ebubu is not complaining. I found the statement he made that he won't allow Ebubu to wash anyone's dishes outrightly wrong. Why would choose to enforce your decision on Ebubu? Can't Ebubu make his own choices? How can you live your life and live the one of others? I don't get it mehn. If helping Ebubu do the dishes was pissing you off, why do it in the first place? Or why not do it and then talk to Ebubu about it and why you feel he's being used?

And I'd have blamed Yemi for addressing the issue in public if he had said otherwise earlier, but Yemi said it openly to Miracle, Ipeleng, Juicy Jay & Yvonne when he talked to them that he'd address the issue. He didn't specify that he'd call on the involved parties only.

Yemi!! Their father!!! Master of Geography. Who dey check am?!!

LordTheus:
Old HMs who are pretty much dead weight when it comes to voting resources.

Yes, I pointed it out in that post you quoted.

Amya:
But frodd was never a contender. He only made final 5 by the skin of his teeth thanks to ultimate veto

I'm not focusing on them being a strong contender or not, rather I'm focusing on their fans relaxing and getting a reality check before coming back to vote massively.

carammel:
Don’t mind them.
I mentioned it here last week like I knew it would happen.

I have never seen any Kanaga’s fan writing, I will share my vote for Kanaga and Yemi
But almost all Yemi’s fan are also Kanaga fans and they always share vote for Kanaga.

Una don identify Yemi competition, una still dey share vote.

I laugh in friendship.

There are core Yemi fans who love Kanaga but vote only Yemi.

There are core Kanaga fans who love Yemi but vote only Kanaga.

Then there is us who love them both and vote them equally. Don't know for others, but I'll stick to my 50-50 votes for both.

Amya:
If Yemi lost shippers, then he lost it to blue. Khoyemi has no shippers. Yemi and Blue has a lot of shippers.

But shippers vote aside, if Yemi was ever a serious contender, no way he'll ever get to the bottom 3 and below juiolva

Yemi is a serious contender but maybe his fans relaxed and it backfired. Remember when Frodd fans relaxed and Elozonam topped him? Remember how Juvonne fans relaxed and they made bottom 3 but came back stronger and made top 3? This season is weird. Anything can happen.

ibkayeebbn:
Is it? There are a lot of moving parts in the voting process at the moment, from the pairs with individuals carrying different weights, to support votes from fans whose favs may not be up and are willing to vote for nominated friends etc.

Basically it's impossible to gauge an individual's strength just yet and it's normal and would probably happen in any season if the factors were the same

It's impossible to determine an individual's strength coz of the factors you listed, but you can still predict a strong HM. Khosi and Kanaga have single-handedly carried a new HM in their pair without appearing in bottom 3. While Yemi and Thabang had weak but old HMs in their pair and couldn't withstand the heat for long despite the advantage.


In conclusion, Kanaga and Khosi are stronger than Yemi.

Amya:
Leave all these yarns. Yemi- has never been strong.. Stans go even harder for their fave even when they mess up.

Anyway Yemi is far better than Kanaga who I wouldn't miss if he disappeared this second. Yemi has had such an interesting arc on this show and as much as I might troll his fans, I still wish he was much of a contender.

See in any ship, they have core fans of both HMs and then they have the shippers. Yemi didn't lose his core fans but he lost the shippers or those who hadn't decided yet but might move to Khosi after her tears.


Also, this season is weird. Juvonne went from bottom 3 to top 3. Thabana went from top 3 to bottom 3. This shows there is chance Yemi can climb top 3 again if his fans apply more pressure, what I don't think he can do is win. But this is not BBN, anything is possible.

Nhazeru:
This is Yemi trying to kiss the Queen immediately after the eviction show

Naah...

The simp is gone for life

I nearly smashed my phone at that juncture. The war might be over, Khosi has Yemi in his feelings. It'd take a miracle to get him back up.

Smoothgio:
If after tonight,Yemi still sticks to khosi then sorry to say.....Yemi won't enter final

How a whole yoruba demon went to a husband man who was played by his wife is still baffling

Yemmmmmmmiiiiiiii.......you do this one,what did I do to deserve this after all the bragging on your behalf

Bro, it's time to be realistic that Yemi will still stick to Khosi after tonight, in short till the end of the show. When you compare his stupid reaction with Khosi's teary nailing of Yemi and forcing him to drop his game, you'd understand that Khosi has Yemi under her control and there's no level of revelations will keep Yemi away from Khosi.

Someone once mentioned that Yemi was gonna lose fans to Khosi and I dismissed it. And after seeing how he has handled the Khosi situation this night by attempting to kiss her after hearing what Ebuka said about her cheating ass, unlike how Khosi changed it for him last Sunday and used tears to move pity voters to her side, I can understand now why and how Yemi has lost his way.


And I'm here to accept my L after thinking Yemi won't lose fan to Khosi. Yemi had everything under the control till last Sunday. Going back to Khosi that fateful Sunday sealed his fate. A lesson to every future HM to learn from his story.


But we stand gidigba. We just need to wake up and vote more.

fitzmayowa:
Olivia called out Miracle for his obsession with Khosi and how he has been poking Yemi. She also insulted the 2 grown fools going back and forth over Khosi for over 3 hours without any concrete resolution apart from turning it into passing contest that almost turned into fight again.

Khosi lied about hugging Thabang, then changed her story again and was rambling on end about the genesis of the night as regards Nelisa, in all she didn't say anything reasonable, till Buleani took the camera away only to return to both of them sleeping.....

As it is your boy is firmly under Khosi's spell and hasn't figure what's going on between Thabang and Khosi out.....

Thanks for the info. Have watched a lot of videos on Twitter to catch up on things. Olivia made me proud. She spoke the truth 100%. Yemi and Miracle no suppose dey have that discussion sef over Khosi. It's a shame.

Geezeem:
Y'all will have to wait until they are unpaired. the miracle I watched last night won't stop making Khosi his business... nah it won't happen

I agree and that's why I said both Yemi and Miracreep's acts are different. Miracreep is obsessed and won't stop going for Khosi till he leaves. And I don't see Biggie unpairing them next week as Miracreep is bringing them highlights with his obsession of Khoyemi.

fitzmayowa:
Olivia called out Miracle for his obsession with Khosi and how he has been poking Yemi. She also insulted the 2 grown fools going back and forth over Khosi for over 3 hours without any concrete resolution apart from turning it into passing contest that almost turned into fight again.

Khosi lied about hugging Thabang, then changed her story again and was rambling on end about the genesis of the night as regards Nelisa, in all she didn't say anything reasonable, till Buleani took the camera away only to return to both of them sleeping.....

As it is your boy is firmly under Khosi's spell and hasn't figure what's going on between Thabang and Khosi out.....

At this point, it's hard for me to admit, but Khosi has Yemi wrapped around her fingers. Unless Yemi is deliberately acting ignorant, then it's fair to say Khosi has been running circles around him lately.

Geezeem:
I think the bottom line is that Yemi intervened as a partner should. It doesn't matter how long it took

Yemi and miracle are not same personalities... so they would handle things differently

That said....Miracle is annoying to be honest

Very annoying someone

And i doubt if the organisers will let him go.... he spices up the game

I beg to differ. The timing of an intervention is as important as the reason for an intervention. You can't just keep interfering in people's business just because they are your partner. They are your partner not GF. You're not their parents or guardians. Thank God you watched Olivia shred Miracle to pieces last night. Let me paint the whole scenario again so this agenda that what Yemi did and that of Miracle's are the same, can stop.

Miracreep came into the house on a Thursday, and by Friday (the next day) was already wanting to have a romantic date with Khosi and even told Biggie that he knows Yemi & Khosi are a thing but he's waiting for any sign of cracks to jump in. Depsite seeing everything, Miracreep kept pursuing Khosi. The night that Khosi and Yemi were settling their issue and Miracle came to take Khosi away from Yemi, which Yemi later let him know that it's disrespectful, when Miracle met Yemi to ask him what what going between him and Khosi, Yemi told him clearly that they were a thing. It's just like how Kanaga & Tsatsii are a thing even though they haven't officially called themselves lovers. But just like his partner in crime Marvin, Miracle has kept coming to Khosi for an affair. Yemi even had a fallout with Miracle because he told Yemi to STFU after wanting Khosi to admit she led Miracle on. That same night, he told Yemi and khosi to their faces that Yemi was disrespecting Khosi and that he was done. But no, the obsessed creep keeps meddling into an affair that has nothing to do with "paring". On Val's day he squashed the beef by reaching out to Yemi but last night he was back to shooting his shot with Khosi outside the house. He says one thing and does another thing.

The control freak has gone ahead to try to cut off Khosi from Thabang & Blaqboi. Was he also looking after Khosi as just a pairing partner when he was trying to isolate her and control her life? Kanaga's pairing partner was involved in the whole mess but Kanaga never interfered till AFTER last Sunday when he and Blue had that discussion and he felt the need to talk to Yemi about sticking with Khosi. Kanaga didn't interfere in that triangle untill there was absolutely need to interfere coz it wasn't in his place to do that. That's how any sane human will behave. So, you can see that it is not about pairing but emotions for Miracle. Miracle wants to date Khosi and wants her to stop being with his supposed competitors hence why he's always in her business. Khosi has told him severally to stop interfering in her personal life. Even Olivia said he told Miracle that last Sunday when he acted like an idiöt and kept asking Khosi if she was good, that it was disrespectful as it had nothing to do with paring. That your pairing partner is needed only during HoH task, some other tasks and nominations. Nothing else.


Now Yemi. Yemi has a pairing partner called Nelissa. Nelissa has been involved in a messy relationship merry-go-round with Mmeli and Thabang. For over a month, Yemi never interfered and/or kept attacking Thabang or Mmeli. The only thing he did was to advice her as a friend and partner. The night she and Mmeli fell out, the same night that Blue said they fûcked Nelissa and yemi corrected her, Yemi told Blue that he was waiting for Nelissa to take her bath and come out so he'd talk to her. He didn't go around confronting Mmeli because it's relationship issues and he can't keep fighting that kind of battle.


For some weeks now as Yemi revealed last night, Nelissa has been complaining to him about how Thabang treats her. She is always sad and all, but Yemi never interfered. He knew this is someone's personal life and he can't keep interfering anyhow he wants. Then last night, Nelissa was distraught and came crying to her and that was when he decided to talk to Thabang for the first time about how down his partner feels about the whole unrequited love thing.


Isn't it clear that Yemi doesn't interfere with people's personal life while Miracle keeps stalking them? It has gotten so bad that Miracle now had to stand being Khoyemi discussing just to hear their convos. Is that not stalking? And he admitted to doing that for "personal reasons" when Khosi confronted him about it during their diary session.


So, what's the basis for comparison? Yemi is a respectful dude while Miracle is an obsessed stalker and control freak.

fitzmayowa:
Khosi will dribble him and they will end up kissing and sleeping on the same bed.....

What did he ask Khosi and what did she dribble him?


Also, what did Olivia tell Miracle?

Help me out anyone, I went to sleep.

Gotta sleep. It's too late. Anyone watching, please update any sensible happening please for those of us not watching.

Lol.. Miracle is now a moral police that will now walk around trying to correct people on how to behave? LMAO. This guy is deluded for real.

scondy:
Yeah....I agree...Miracle is scoring some good points...however, at the end of the day...its not his business...this is a game...$100k is at stake...

He's wrong. Khosi didn't come to Miracle to cry. He cried while having a convo with Yemi. Nelissa on the other hand came to Yemi to cry. Two different scenarios.