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Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 6:17pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
ShyM-X: Too late. Show's over. Maybe next time... Start an interesting post and maybe, just maybe, I will grace it with my wit! |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 6:07pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
coogar: Lecturers? I'm sorry in my school we referred to them as 'Professors'. You know why? Well, it was required to have a Doctorate to teach in my school (and every single person who taught in the Engineering department was a professor). Um, was there any such requirement in your school? Oops, I guess not, anyone, could come in, teach and call themselves a "lecturer" - qualifications not necessary. That would explain your illiteracy. Well, I'm off to the gym now. In addition to being smart, I choose to stay fit, healthy, cute. You know... Double threat (Beauty and Brains)! You should try to get some exercise too. Get off the computer, go swimming, go for a run it's a beautiful day, play some tennis, it keeps the brain sharp! Lol. Again and hopefully for the last time... BYE! |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 5:06pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
coogar: You seemed remotely intelligent when we first started. It's interesting how my ability to counter, breakdown and completely obliterate your argument with a superior, well articulated one supported by facts and figures has reduced you to an insult hurling bumbling id1ot void of any facts/research/studies to support your ignorant claims. Lol. This has been very entertaining. I'd love to stick around but I have to go and interact with educated people now... and by 'educated' I mean people who went to real schools. You know? Schools that are actually rated. Have you been inside one before? Funny how you skillfully avoided telling me what school you went to? Was it University of the bush? Because that would explain why you can't read a graph. Lol. I bet you wish my parents would have married me off as a child because then I wouldn't have been informed or educated enough to school your a$s! In any case, My work here is done. Have a nice life. Till next time... arrivederci! 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 3:50pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
coogar: I said: bgirl: How does this even remotely imply that cancer is a disease of the poor? Absolutely not! Cancer is not a disease of the poor. I was simply mirroring your argument in order to show the flaw in it. According to you: More kids have VVF in impoverished countries than in developed countries therefore (according to you) it is a "disease of the poor". If you believe this then could also deduce that: Since cancer mortality rates are higher in impoverished countries than in developed countries, it is a disease of poverty. That would of course be wrong. My point? Just because poor people are more affected (by VVF or Cancer or Malaria... etc) doesn't mean that it is caused by poverty. It simply means they are unable to afford the treatment. I don't know if this clarifies things for you but quite frankly, I am tired of spoon feeding you. coogar:When did I imply that I couldn't take it? I feel like I always have to spell things out to you in order for you to understand. Ok. Here we go again. This is what I said: bgirl:Now when addressing people who are smart, you typically do not have to tell them that you are being sarcastic. They are generally able to infer from your tone that you are in fact being sarcastic. In my case, I clearly stated that I was being sarcastic just incase you were too dumb to infer the obvious but you still were unable to see the sarcasm in my statement. So let me be blunt: You can attempt to insult me from now till next year, I don't give a flying f&%k! Your opinion means zilch to me. Do you get it now? coogar: Oh well. B. Eng, computer systems, University of Ottawa (2011). Co-op program. Dean's honor list 2008, 2010. I'm pretty certain the money spent on my education was an investment. By the way, please tell me where you learnt to read charts/graphs so I'll be sure NOT to send my kids there! |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 3:13pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
nagoma: Is this a fact? Is there any study to support this? No? 'Didn't think so. |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 1:28pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
coogar: You are still talking? You cannot read a chart and you are still speaking? You are not ashamed? I showed my 14 year old sister the chart and she immediately got it. She also said: "but why are you arguing with someone who cannot read a chart"? I think I'll take her advise. GOODBYE! |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 1:14pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
coogar:I am sorry, I have to draw the line somewhere. The fact that you cannot read the chart that you are referencing is scary to me. I am tearing my hair out right now. Coogar, please, please, seat down with someone who took basic math. Look at the chart again. Please note that there is a difference between mortality and mortality rate. Mortality is the number of people who died. Mortality rate it the number of people who died divided by the number of incidents. I can't teach you how to read a damn chart and I sure as hell will not have an argument with an adult who cannot read a chart!!! I give up! |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 12:32pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
coogar: You are proving my point hun. Let me try again. That is like saying that since poor people in Nigeria are more likely to die of malaria than rich people, Malaria is a poor peoples disease. No, Malaria is not caused by poverty, it is caused by exposure to mosquitoes. All you are telling me is that America has a cure. My question to you? What is the cause?? coogar:Did you pay attention in Algebra? Lets take a look at YOUR OWN Chart: Middle Africa: Incident=100, Mortality=80: Mortality rate: 80% Northern Africa: Incident=110, Mortality=120: Mortality rate= 92% Western Africa: Incident=90, Mortality=80, Mortality rate= 89% North America: Incident=350, Mortality=80, Mortality rate= 22.9% New Zealand: Incident=360, Mortality=80, Mortality rate= 22.2% You always look at percentages because of variations like: Population, reported cases etc. Basically, if County A has 360 cases with a population of 200 million and County B has 50 cases with a population of 100 million. Someone who didn't pay attention in algebra would say County A is more affected when in reality based on percentages, County B is. Capisce? coogar: There is a significant difference between violating and repulsing. I guess the fact that I find beans repulsive means that people eating beans in front of me are violating my rights! I always find that people who cannot make their point with facts resort to insults. Calling me a "disgrace" really hurts my feelings because you know, the fact that you said it makes it true and your opinion means the world to me. (Just to be clear, that is a little thing called sarcasm) coogar:Yes, I know better than the parents. Lots of parents who give out children as child brides are ignorant of the facts. Giving birth to a child doesn't automatically make the mother informed about how best to care for her child neither does it guarantee that she is a fit parent. This is especially why this practice occurs primarily among impoverished and uneducated people. coogar:Yes, that is fine. I am simply against physical/sexu al violation (not repulsion, see the difference?) of children. If they are not going to have sex with them until they are 18 and there is a way to guarantee that, I'm fine with it. |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 6:52am On Jul 23, 2013 |
coogar: Oh my goodness. Can any one be so hard headed? Impoverished countries where we have the same medical facilities for both underage and mature mothers (meaning all things are equal), the mortality rate of underage mums is 500% higher than adult mums. What in the good lords name does that tell you? Basic integrated science: Take a control environment, a test environment, make a hypothesis, draw a conclusion. Good Lord! Environment one: Death rate of Adult mothers in impoverished nations: x Environment two: Death rate of Underage mothers in impoverished nations: 5x. Conclusion: Underage mothers in impoverished nations are 5 times more at risk than adult mothers. Is Nigeria an impoverished nation? Yes. Therefore underage mothers in Nigeria are 5 times more at risk of dying during child birth than adult mothers. What are you arguing about?? More people in impoverished countries die of cancer than people in developed countries. Does that mean that cancer is caused by poverty?? coogar: You are a complete slowpoke if you think people should rearrange their lives to suit your every whimp. Who in the hell cares what repulses you or not? Indecent exposure is a sexx crime. It is not illegal because it repulses people, it is illegal because it VIOLATES people. Please DO NOT come at me with weak arguments. You may get away with it with other people but NOT WITH ME! coogar: None of my parents decisions put me at risk of physical or psychological harm. coogar: It was a hypothetical to illustrate the point that when there is a conflict between exercising your rights and trampling on someone else's, you have to give up yours. Simple enough? |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 11:52pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
nagoma: Immorality is not a crime. Child abuse on the other hand, is. |
Politics / Re: Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies His Critics by bgirl: 9:26pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
babylolaroy: Lola, listen to your "view" babylolaroy: You are saying that these children who died while giving birth were "meant to die"?? That is you are saying that it is okay to take a child, impregnate her, then when she dies in child birth you open your mouth and say that "anyone who didn't survive was meant to die"!!! Are you okay? And you are offended because I told you to go to school? You don't think your blatant disregard for the lives of these child victims is offensive to me and many others? You are the one who owes me an apology. |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 9:11pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
coogar:Stop fabricating statistics. Is there a study that supports these your claims? If so, kindly refer me to it. See below a study from the international center for research on women. According to their study, children under 15 are FIVE times more likely to die in childbirth than women in their 20's. Their research also shows that Pregnancy is the leading cause of death worldwide for women ages 15 to 19. These are FACTS. http://www.icrw.org/child-marriage-facts-and-figures coogar: Oh Lord. Listen carefully, let me explain the difference. When 2 gay people get married, whose rights are trampled upon? No one! (the fact that it repulses you is irrelevant, that is not an invasion of your rights, all you need to do is walk away) When a child is sold off into marriage, does it trample on anyone's rights? Yes, the child's! The point is that everyone has a right to exercise their rights as far as it doesn't trample on the rights of others. If a muslim said that their religion preaches the killing of infidels, will you say that they should not be prevented from exercising their rights? Despite the fact that it tramples on the rights of the 'infidels'? Again, your argument holds no water. |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 1:36pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
coogar:"Severe or failed child birth" is very high among children whose pelvic area is under developed and unable to support the rigors of childbirth. Yes it is a "disease of poverty" in adults because it can occur as a result of poor care but with children, even the best of care cannot make up for the fact that their bodies are under developed causing them to have severe/failed child birth. coogar:No, muslims can never come to my door to ask for my daughters hand in marriage but should we stand by and watch injustice because it isn't being done to us? These children are being exploited and it does not have to be my child for me to speak up and fight to protect them. |
Politics / Re: Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies His Critics by bgirl: 1:13pm On Jul 22, 2013 |
babylolaroy: First of all, these claims are fabricated. Children are not disvirgining themselves at dinner parties or at school yards! Big fat lie! When you were 6, 8 did you know what sex was? At 12 to 16 girls may be more knowledgeable and curious but will still not do it, it is scary, it is painful! Why would any child do that to themselves? Stop believing these ignorant lies. As for women selling their bodies, So instead of educating them on the dangers of what they are doing. Instead of eradicating the poverty causing them to exploit themselves, you want to legalize their exploitation by marrying them before they know how to tie their shoelaces. Makes no sense. |
Politics / Re: Husbands And Their Wives Pictures by bgirl: 4:54pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Wow. I'm speechless. That last girl doesn't even know what is happening. She is playing. This is just repulsive. |
Politics / Re: Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies His Critics by bgirl: 4:50pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
vire: I wonder why we have to break our necks over someone's ideology .........their religion gives them the right to have the girl child as wives...whats your own with it....they southern part of this nation should understand that even our culture supports underage marriages and because we don't explore that part of our culture doesn't mean its not there...Britain forced two different cultures together like they did in India,Pakistan and Nepal until they went their individual ways.....At least they are not asking for your daughters hands in marriage and even if they do you have a right to say no......Lets live and let them live....When they introduced Sharia Law it was as if we should all die but right now we can live with it....so we will also live with this Law. Well, you know their religion gives them the right to kill infidels so why are you upset when they kill christians. I mean after all, it is their right to practice their religion. Do you hear how stupid you sound? 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies His Critics by bgirl: 4:48pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
babylolaroy:Are you a child bride? Is that why you cannot spell? Try and enrol yourself in school please. You are proving my point. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 4:42pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
tha_originator: After some useless hypocritical christians will come here raining abuses on Islam even when their pastors are impregnating 6 years old girls in churches. Craze dey worry una! Lies. Which 6 year old girl has started menstruating to even be able to get pregnant Anyway, if pastors are doing it, it is wrong. Christians are not justifying it. We are standing against it and against any pastor who does it. Islam on the other hand justifies this atrocity. |
Politics / Re: Marriageable Age Of Places Around The World by bgirl: 4:35pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
ShyM-X: This is the legal age of minors getting married to each other! i.e Two minors getting married to each other. An adult (19 and above) CANNOT get married to a minor. Do you see the difference? Please read up on statutory rape, then comeback and delete this ridiculous post. |
Politics / Re: Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies His Critics by bgirl: 11:13am On Jul 21, 2013 |
eldoradoxx: Thank you. Yerima said it all. My take on this is that if a girl is mature enough to be intimate out of wedlock, why not let a man marry her and legalise what she would otherwise be doing under the staircase, behind the school toilet, and other places. Would we rather have her do abortion at age 16 or prostitution or used as baby making factory at Aba or Owerri at age 17 than allow a decent man marry and care for her? We always say that Western societies are civilised, yet under the law in Britain a girl of 16 can legally marry with the consent of her parents or guardians, so why are we pretending here ! Are we now more civilsed that British and Americans ? If most of us make enquiry grandma, we would discover that many of them married at as early as age 14 and had their first kids at 15 or 16. If not for education that has deceived us into believing that to have kids is the end of educational pursuit, shudnt we rather follow the foot steps of our ancestors. Did our granddmom know anything like fibroid, did they have any cause to seek for abortion? How many of them were prostitutes ? They were not because they never had opportunity of being deprived of sex when they became biologically ready for that. Most of people who argue against Yerima's views do so because they probably are being intimate with girl out of wedlock and as far as they re concrned, it is ok and therefor, marriage should be an afterthought. Women are everywhere with nobody to marry them because sex has become too cheap, a man would rather have sex with different women than marry and you think Yerima is wrong ? Is it because your grandmother survived? Do you know how many of her mates died in child birth? Do you know how many gave birth to unhealthy babies/still borns? Do you know how many suffer severe health issues as a result of this assault? Please, please do your research before you speak. If sex is too cheap then women and men in society need to work on their morals. Marrying a 12 year old child is not the solution. Instead of you to raise your daughter to respect herself and maintain high morals, your solution is to marry her off to a disgusting old man? Besides it is a big lie. There is NO city in Nigeria where 12 year olds are having sex and disvirgining themselves behind toilets. That is completely false. There is no study, no statistics. Nothing to support this ridiculous allegations. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Dokubo - Underage Marriage Our Right As Muslims by bgirl: 9:42am On Jul 21, 2013 |
tintingz: and you support fornication for little girls?No, do you? |
Politics / Re: Dokubo - Underage Marriage Our Right As Muslims by bgirl: 4:13am On Jul 21, 2013 |
hardarms5050: abeg help me ask the sex hungry girl. As she has even lost her morals and decency to spit such nonsense. Ill brought up pig!!!That was a hypothetical statement, did you see the "if" in front of it. Ok, you don't know what hypothetical means? Well, it is not my fault you didn't go to school. Blame your parents. |
Politics / Re: Dokubo - Underage Marriage Our Right As Muslims by bgirl: 4:09am On Jul 21, 2013 |
tintingz: Its a girl choice when little girls start sleeping around with boys and vice versa?? What is this world turning into? SMHYes, it is a girls choice. Give her the right upbringing so that she will make the right choices in life but don't use pedophilia as a solution to fornication. |
Politics / Re: Think Of Your Stand, Early Marriage Or Early Sex? by bgirl: 3:08am On Jul 21, 2013 |
Diplomat001: Those who shout #ChildNotBride , carry placards, sign petitions, I guess are sex-mongers, religious extremists, Educated illiterate, abortion promoters and people who have read so much they cannot understand simple English like those of Sen. Yerima... I can't argue with stupidity. You expect and 8 year old to "give consent"? You consider an 8 year old to be "mature"? Is an 8 year old enough to know what consent means? Which 8 year old will consent to being physically and sexually assaulted? How about the boy child, shouldn't we "save them from adultery" as well. IGNORANT! 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: . by bgirl: 3:03am On Jul 21, 2013 |
[quote author=eyenCalabar][/quote] So what exactly is your point After wasting my time reading all that... you made no point. |
Politics / Re: Either This Religion Or Culture Is Ungodly, Or The Partakers Are Deviants by bgirl: 12:59am On Jul 21, 2013 |
This is not about religion. It is not about Islam. Christianity does not condemn pedophilia either, No where in the bible does it say it is a sin to marry an underage child but when you look at the impact of this act on the life of the child, common sense will tell you that it is wrong. These child have all sorts of medical complications from having sex and giving birth before the body is fully developed. Sometimes people have to use the brain that God gave them to think. Maybe Mohammed did not know that medical and psychological impact of this on children but now that we have the statistics and medical studies, now that the information is out there, act accordingly. I am sure the Quran preaches that you should love one another. Ask yourself, does endangering the life of a child show love? |
Politics / Re: Shame On ALL Nigerian Women!!!! by bgirl: 12:51am On Jul 21, 2013 |
ezeagu: Dont mind the ignorant slowpoke. Instead of us uniting in a fight to protect our children he is coming on nairaland to spew his rubbish. Today, men and women, muslim and christian, young and old came out to sign the petition, they are united in speaking out against this injustice and this fool is coming on nairaland to shout: "shame on women". Have a seat, fool! |
Politics / Re: Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies His Critics by bgirl: 12:43am On Jul 21, 2013 |
adewale2011: Him no say na most for any parent to give pikin marry, it left for the parent to decide that!!! If you Like leave ur dauther till 45year or when 50 boys enters the place before you advice her to settle down!!! Mshweee No, it is not for the parents do decide. The child has rights. Parents do not own the child. If they parents are unfit or unwilling to care for the child, the Government should step in. Just because someone gave birth to a child doesn't mean they are fit to be parents. If they are willing to give up a 9 year old to be a play thing for a grown man, they are either extremely ignorant or clearly unfit parents. The government MUST step in and protect these children. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies His Critics by bgirl: 12:38am On Jul 21, 2013 |
harthonder: I criosly wonder y everyone has been saying all Well, let's stop them from desecrating themselves. Please help me understand how it is "for her own good"? It is for her own good to risk her life? To damage her internal organs because a 12 year old is giving birth. Please get off the internet and stop displaying your ignorance. |
Politics / Re: Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies His Critics by bgirl: 12:05am On Jul 21, 2013 |
Bleep.u.sexkills: No, he has not made ONE valid point. Not one. You cannot trample over someone else's right because you want to exercise yours. Yes, it is his right to practice his religion however he see fit BUT you cannot trample on someone elses rights. The child has rights too. Right to an education, the right to physical and psychological health. How can you refer to this ridiculous garbage as "valid points". Are you for real 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: Shame On ALL Nigerian Women!!!! by bgirl: 8:05am On Jul 20, 2013 |
mcfynest: I have a degree own my own company and drive a 2012 Honda Civic. I am not second best to ANY man. |
Politics / Re: Shame On ALL Nigerian Women!!!! by bgirl: 7:44am On Jul 20, 2013 |
Garri the 1st: You are a complete and total slowpoke. In every well balanced household, the father is protective of his daughters. I don't blame you for thinking this is a mother's battle, perhaps your father didn't love you. Perhaps you only knew your mother's love that is why you think only Mothers should be affected. Some of us grew up in a balanced home with affection from both parents. When the child suffers both parents suffer. This is a battle for both men and women. If this fight is for women, why are you carrying it on your head. Coming on nairaland to shout shame on Women meanwhile you haven't done a damn thing. So when they give your daughter to an old man to marry you will say it is because her mother didn't fight. Please seat your tired ass down somewhere. 1 Like |
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