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jackaustin631:
Hey everyone! I'm in the market for a 12V refrigerator for my upcoming camping trips, and I was wondering if anyone has recommendations or advice. I'm looking for something reliable, energy-efficient, and with enough capacity for a weekend getaway. Does anyone have personal experience with a particular brand or model? Also, how do these 12V fridges generally perform in terms of power consumption? I want to make sure it won't drain my vehicle's battery too quickly. Any insights, tips, or warnings would be greatly appreciated!

You didn't state the capacity of the refrigerator you need. There are rugged 12v refrigerators around. Some come directly from the factory while some have their 220v compressor converted or replaced with a 12v compressor. As for power/battery consumption, your car battery can't power it for long. You'll need a deep cycle battery with solar panels. Just my 2 cents

FG is using Labour (NLC) to play ping pong

porthouse7:
Igbo man

Too many children on nairaland these days

Another white elephant deal

They're not difficult to read for those who understands the parlance. However, as a patient, you're suppose to know what is been written to or about you

I think they are at the luxury spectrum when compared to the bigger ones

Midehi3:
No don't blame them you hear, as if you don't know how Nigerians mindset work

What concerns using gas to power gen set and increase in price? Don't you know how the economy works? Gas price is never stable. It goes up and down base on season and exchange rates.

JASONjnr:
So what will now happen to those people who rushed to change from fuel to gas because fuel was becoming expensive?

Now, gas seems double of fuel price.

The carburettor can use petrol too. So simply disconnect the gas hose, pour petrol in the petrol tank and start using it as usual. Nothing to worry about.

SalamRushdie:
When y'all started using cooking gas to power Generator y'all didn't know the price will go up? People can be very shallow and shortsighted in this country

Gas prices goes up and down year in year out. It depends on the season and exchange rate. It has nothing to do with people using it to power their generator sets.

Strategic

The front page of this thread is filled with new monikers commenting in the same pattern. If you know you know.

bestman09:
This is why it's good to buy a highlander, instead of a Camry. They are almost the same price but when you get to a bad road, highlander will help you and when Minor accidents like this happens, highlander will help you more than the Camry.

But you know that the highlander doesn't have the stamina of the Camry when it comes to running on the highway. Especially the earlier version of the highlander

SmartPolician:
So, normal people still support APC after Buhari finished this country.

Nigerians don't deserve pity; we deserve the kind of leaders we get

Its not a matter of the party APC, its a matter of who is at the helm of affairs. Buhari was like a figure head president who would approve any memo sent to his desk. Tinubu on the other hand seem to be more hands on and more abreast with the goings-on in his administration and with the people.

After all, Prof Osunbor who was once a PDP governor in Edo state is being rumoured to want to recontest governorship under APC. They are all one and the same. The only difference is the ideology and values of the person at the steering the ship.

Them just dey dismiss everything

2031?

Things people do to earn a living. May God bless the hustles of all the hardworking people, especially in a country like ours.

lonelydora:
Which is causing the leak?

Are you sure it's not the PSV that is popping on that truck. Probably, due to overloading?

You're probably right. It's the safety valve that probably released some gas to the atmosphere due to increased internal pressure which could be as a result of overload, high physical impact on the tank, or increase in ambient temperature. If the gas truck was actually leaking, no amount of effort from fire service can stop the leakage until all the content of the tank is empty.

Kudos to the Lagos state fire service for the prompt response

If he is smart enough to scale the 4 stages of recruitment, he will definitely get use to the different accents within a short time. He will learn that on the job.

There are other headlines on bbn, how is this one relevant?

The moment I saw Lexus SUV in the report, something in my mind just told me that the Lexus will be the cause of the accident; I wasn't wrong I've i finished reading. Reason my mind went to the Lexus SUV is known to those who knows but I won't be saying anything about that here. RIP to the dead

Aareakinwunmi:
This show is having a terrible effect on our Youth

It is all the negative and sexual part of the show that usually make headlines. There are some educative, sociopsychological, philosophical and some emotional lessons to learn from the show but it's the sexual and morally deficit parts that's usually projected. Of course, the show is rated 18.

And this is news, how?

Now Hyundai accent, Kia Rio and the likes will now begin to have high demands and resultant increase in pricing due to their low fuel consumption. Never used the accent but I believe that if well maintained, it is should be a reliable car. I've seen people using them without much complaints. Its just the perception people and mechanics have towards these class of cars, other than that, they are good cars.

Definitely not an 06 Zafira

vijim:
The dislike I have for all anything corolla or Camry no be here... Even if I get all the whole money wey dey this world I no fit buy those two cars no matter the model, weda na 2044... Their grills/Front dey always dey ugly...Na wetin dey turn me off for those motor be that

You didn't state the brand you're currently using.

stagger:
28 kg when full, 15kg when "empty". As you said, you need to weigh the cylinder before and after to know how much to buy if filling it, so you not only get what you are paying for, but you don't end up with an over-pressurized cylinder.

You stand a higher chance of getting an over pressurized cylinder at the gas plant than you would with a road side refiller because the plants refill with pressure pumps. But that's not the case because LPG in a stored state has same pressure depending on it's volume, temperature and the size of the cylinder containing it.

stagger:
Point of correction sir. When you buy a new cylinder, take it to a gas station. The first question they will ask you is if it is a new cylinder. If it is, they will use a spanner or screw driver to push in the valve so the residual vapour in the LPG cylinder will go out. The inside of a cylinder is not a vacuum. The vapour pressure has to rise via increase in temperature, and when the vapour pressure is higher than atmospheric pressure, the gas comes out. When this pressure equalizes, then the gas no longer comes out and is regarded as "empty."

If you patronize roadside dealers who fill a smaller cylinder from the 50kg one they have to put at a height so that gravity ensures one-way flow, occasionally they have to stop and push in the valve to let the residual vapour out.

LPG is 85% liquid. The rest is the vapour. The gas never gets exhausted 100%. Filling your cylinder in a station gets the percentage of liquid up. Using roadside dealers will raise the level of vapour. This will mean you have to occasionally shift your cylinder around when using it with a generator.

I speak from experience.

Now you're talking in technical terms. You used the word "air" in your first post I quoted now you used the right term "vapour", actually pressurised vapour. What you have in new cylinders is compressed air from the factory which helps to ascertain the state of the cylinder, if it is leaking or not at the point of purchase of the cylinder. At that state, the cylinder is pressurised and gas can't be refilled in the cylinder until it is depressurised by opening the valve with a screwdriver or any other appropriate tool. If you weigh the pressurised new cylinder and compare it with it's weight after depressurising, the difference in weight is less than 0.1kg.

The difference between the gas station and the road side is that the gas station uses a pump which helps to pressurise the gas into the cylinder at a higher pressure than the pressure building up in the cylinder during the process of refilling and at a faster rate. The road side refiller relies on the natural pressure of the gas inside his bigger, and not necessarily gravity, to refill the smaller cylinders. It gets to a point when the pressure inside the smaller cylinder equalises with that of the bigger cylinder and the flow of gas will stop. He then depressurised the smaller cylinder with an appropriate tool and the continue refilling. What matters most is the quantity and weight of the liquified gas inside the cylinder and not the pressure. And the best way to determine that is through a weighing scale.

I don't understand what you mean by shifting your cylinder around. If your low pressure regulator and the carburettor is working fine, you don't need to shift your cylinder around whether you refill from roadside or gas plant.

I refill from both roadside and plants, my main target is for my final cylinder weight to tally with the quantity of gas I'm paying for.

With the increasing level of clout chasing these days, I hardly believe these type of videos. People can post anything online these days just for likes and views. To your tent each his own

stagger:
I did a test with the LPG carburetor on a 6.5KVA gen with water pump, ac and washing machine load.

I got 9 hours of power on 12.5 kg which I got for N7,500.

That's a cost of N833 per hour.

Same gen has a 25 litre PMS tank which runs for 12 hours (on limited load; one ac only). That's N13,500 (@ N540/litre) for 12 hours, or N1,125 per hour.

Savings per hour: N1,125 - N833 = N292 per hour.

Using the LPG carburetor and gas for 6 hours a day (assuming you want to run it from 6pm to 12 midnight if there is no power), you save N292 X 6 = N1,752 per day.

Over 30 days, that's savings of N52,560. Over a year, that's savings of N630,720.

Meanwhile, I imported my carburetor from China at a cost of 17,500. It was delivered to my house. Cylinder kept at a distance of 6 yards away.
The only thing I notice is that I have to put the gas on and leave it for 1 minute to enter the system, and then I have to pull three or four times before it kicks in. Also have to return the choke pretty fast or it will go off.

Have been using this system for a month now. No issues.

I will advice not to fill your gas at roadside vendors. Air in the cylinder instead of LPG will cause the gen to start fluctuating.

The reason for the hard start and waiting for a minute could be as a result of the length of your hose or the condition of your spark plug. Mine come up at one start.

On your roadside purchase and air inside cylinder, there's nothing like "air" inside cylinder. Just ensure you know the empty weight of your cylinder and final weight after refilling. There's nothing like filling "air" inside cylinder because air has no significant weight in this context

Workch:
I enumerated the amount of energy 1kg of gas and 1litre of fuel willl produce.

1 litre of fuel still produced 31.5mjoules of energy while 1kg of LPG will produce 20.7megajoules.

Fuel is still cheaper

You're taking this in another different direction entirely. The energy you're talking about here, is it electric energy? This thread is all about getting more time of electric energy from the generator using LPG compared to petrol and it has been proven that at the current price of LPG, you'll still get more value for your money.

davillian:
I'm scared of gas o

But you use it to cook inside your enclosed kitchen, or don't you?

Calabar1stSon:
Wished CNG was readily available. I can't be playing with LPG.

So you chose to play with CNG than LPG? Do you know the difference between the two? CNG has higher pressure than LPG. You need stronger hose and cylinders to handle CNG