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Dedetwo:
Bro no Bini Oba ever dreamt of expansionist theory toward southeast. Till this moment, no inch of Agbo land was\is in Bini hand. Many people of Bini ancestry were captured by Agbo kingdom and allow to spent most of the lives in Agbo.

Though they later changed the history that they were the ones that conquered Agbor and after the Civil War, a whole Agbor-Obi surrendered themselves shamelessly to then because of fear of the so called Igbo extinction. Shameful.
For convenience sake I like going with their own false history that they conquered Agbor since the indigenes accepted their slave status

adadike:
Bkayyy nwanem, gbata oso bia o. Dalu Idenna. Ndigbo siri na fa si Benin amachaghi Ife. Igbo ka Benin ofuma ofuma . Anyi chi kwara Benin ma chia obodo ndi ofe. Ndi Benin bu ndi kwesiri idi n'ekwu na fa si Igbo bia not the other way round. Enough of this nonsense. Ndigbo Mara nu ife Biko nu

Nke ahụ bụ eziokwu. Ooni ndị ife kwuru ya na ọnụ ya na Ndigbo bụ agbọ ka mee ochie na Nigeria ma bụrụ kwa agbọ nwe obodo nile dị na ndịda Naijiria. O kwuru na Ndigbo nọbụ na ana yoruba tupu Oduduwa na ndị ike ya bia wee weru ọnọdụ

IDENNAA:
If you say Nri/Eri then you are going too far. Bini never ventured into Anioma. Those western Igbo are blood thirsty and the Bini know this hence their movements were west ward. It's really difficult to fight the Igbo tribes because of their social structures. Having a central leadership makes it easy to conquer a people.

I just read it now and noticed the undue misinformation and corrected it. Bini expansion stopped at Agbor and they never got full control of Agbor until the Empire collapsed

Ogbuefi2020:
well, we don't live in denial over here. Benin prince touched down in Ohafia at the tail end of Benin empire but emergence of Aro sent them parking. ALso know that Benin rulled the whole yoruba tropical rain forest terriory and confined oyo to the savanna. Oyo itself never attained empire status cos it never ruled any non yoruba territory before it was laid waste by Fulanis

Well there is elements of truth there but you forgot that the path Bini used to reach the border of southern Igboland was not Onitsha Expressway. It was through Itsekiri areas before the emergence of Arọ (their nightmare). Mind you Bini never got into the southern Igbo land. Bini didn't establish anything there because during the height of Bini so called empire was the militarization Arọ and established of her confederacy.

Those days, for some reasons which we are yet to fully Understand. BINI never touched Umueri Clan (Nri) with their environs (Anambra axis) and neither did Arọ ( Arọ touched many parts of Anambra but never touched Anaedo clan and Umueri) . And when I mean Nri, it includes Ogwashi Ukwu-Nri and her environs in present day Delta state.
Everything about Bini expansion towards the core Igboland halted at Agbor because Agbor was too stubborn. They rise against the Empire at any given chance. The only difference between the two was that arọ was more ruthless and derive special pleasure in killing Bini was the main reason the Bini wall was established and Bini directed all her attention to mounting defence on the southern border.
Unlike Bini Arọ had many clans with ruthless soldiers on their call, most notably Afikpo, Ohofia, Abam. Izuogu and his partner in crime Iheme were just slave businessmen but very ruthless.
If not for the coming of the colonialists, Arọ would have gotten to Ife and totally annex Bini before facing off with the caliphate

Ogbuefi2020:
What yoruba chose to agree or not agree is irrelevant. Fact remains that Benin did not just rule all yoruba rain forest regions but completely depopulated it and sold them to Portuguese who took them to Brazil to work in sugar plantations, this happened during the "Sugar Boom" of the 16th century

Oga Bini never had control of anything past Agbor. Even Agbor revolted before the Oba sent his son to reconquer her back.
Bini herself had a bitter history with Ndigbo. How did you think the word "Dimkpa Bini" came about.

Oga Igbo land was a big city of slave hunters those days

EdoDefence:
When the time comes, we will know

Abeg make e come during my lifetime. We need more land
If only you know the people you are challenging.
Oga, technically we have nothing to lose. Come to Anambra and see where people are filling up streams to get land for building and you want to challenge us with you expanse flat land.

You are most welcome to bring it on

Ogbuefi2020:
The Ikwere-Benin attachment is the most ridiculous of all. Benin came to Ikwerre land at the time when the empire was collapsing like a pack of card. after depopulating the west, Benin looked east but before they could enter the eastern heartland the Portuguese left bight of Benin and moved to Bight of Biafra. After this movement by Portuguese, Benin lost its monopoly of guns as Arochukwu acquired the new weapons and chased Benin out

In reality ikwerre is actually of Arọ stock. Full name for Isiokpo is Arọ-Isiokpo
You can ask any ikwerre here. If the person will be sincere

Ogbuefi2020:
The Ikwere-Benin attachment is the most ridiculous of all. Benin came to Ikwerre land at the time when the empire was collapsing like a pack of card. after depopulating the west, Benin looked east but before they could enter the eastern heartland the Portuguese left bight of Benin and moved to Bight of Biafra. After this movement by Portuguese, Benin lost its monopoly of guns as Arochukwu acquired the new weapons and chased Benin out

You know, Nigerians think that wars are only fought with guns while staring at intellectual war going on at the moment. Bini tried this stunt on Ife in a bid to use the link to claim the whole yoruba race but the Ooni thwarted it because he is intelligent. Even King Henry VIII abolished Catholicism because his people are leaning to the Romans, learning their language and started behaving like them. He understands that if such is left to happen what happened is happening in middle East at that time will befall his people so he established Anglican communion.

This type of warfare is actually the most deadly. It is worse than biological weapon because it guarantees instant eradication unlike that of firearm. Any ethnicity that falls to this like those in Mauritania now, Berbers and so on will lose their identity and be absorbed by the other without firing a single shot. Even their MNK and the Obi is ignorant of this.

I learnt this from an Arab Quadi

Bendeco2020:
Which land has Onitsha ever loose to Obosi or Nkwelle?


Oga u just hate Onitsha maybe because of our Ancestral/history belief....... One thing is no matter as you hate Onitsha it won't stop our progress.

Onitsha never and won't ever loose any land to obosi or nkwelle.... They no reach to fight Onitsha

Mr man which progress are you even talking about? Don't make me say what both of us will regret later.
Mind you I don't hate anybody, I have my own clan to worry about.

By the way, there is nothing like ancestral belief. Like it or not, Bini has played the Arabicism style on you people with the help of Zik and you fell for it like dry leaves. Anyways what do we expect from ndị otu.
You people have been conquered and mentally subjugated by Bini. Dimkpa Bin

FuckOsuPigs:
You look very sick in that picture. Are you sure you're okay?

My brother, please go home and treat yourself.

In Dija's voice...lalalala...I'm in love with Nyamuri....I'm in love with Nyamuri. Sing along.

Eze Gworo. In Biafran soldiers voice "ọ dịghị onye Eze Gworo ma ihe, uche ha na nke Ehi bụ ofu" (There is no Gworo Teeth that have sense, their brain and that of cows are the same)

Ogbuefi2020:
Those who parade the Benin history are ignorant of the meaning of the word "empire". Empire is not an ethnic nation. Benin empire ruled many other ethnicities during the height of its power during 16th century when oba Esigie of Benin surrendered himself as a Portuguese vassal to get guns. Benin overran yorubaland from Owo to Badagry but you don't see them shouting "we are from Benin" nonsense

All those things are a form of modern warfare.
I've read about it from one Arabian scholar like that. The best way to conquer mentally weak people is to distort their history and watch them come to you.

It worked in Arabia where many ethnic groups were wiped out by just changing their history and linking all of them to Ismael.

They are currently doing the same on Tuaregs and Berbers on North Africa although they are now fighting back with "Amazigh Movement" to announce their presence. In fact Arabs are minority in North Africa while Berber are majority. 80 percent of Morocco is Berber but you won't know because they have been Arabicized. Something Bini is doing in modern day on ignorant Onitsha, Agbor, Ikwerre and all those confused people of Delta state

adadike:
it's really a pity. Patiently waiting for any ihiala person that will come and tell me that we are from anything near Benin not to talk of Benin itself. Igbos are the oldest people in Nigeria and we once presided over Benin land. Ndigbo Mara nu ife

Nne uche gị dị ya.

When they cannot conquer us physically like men they choose to go the history route, deceiving ignorant mentally weak clans into submitting themselves to them on a platter of Gold.

They say these days, wars are fought mentally.

IamWonderful:
it is better than killing new born babies for ritualism

Coming from people that harvest human organs and dried skulls.


Oga when it comes to ritualism and harvesting, nobody dey follow una drag that one. Infact as you dey so, one baba don dey observe you like corn wey dem plant for farm waiting for you to mature so that he can harvest you.

Awon Harvesters

Juliusmalema:
Such history as you painted. Mr you are fast becoming what people can't tell..

You are too opinionated in everything. Infact you know everything and have view of everything even when it is obvious you are talking nonsense..

Another Nnamdi kanu that have opinion from east, west , north and south.

Too much of everything is bad..

What concerns MNK with this issue now? It's like you are becoming obsessed with IPOB

IamWonderful:
Baby factory land of the bizarre occurrence and unspeakable disorganization, criminal tendency people

I dey tell you.
Nobody knows respect like Ndị Afonjọ.
Just see the way they respected Oba of Lagos to the fullest.

After which they broke bottle on top of one Oba head like that in Osun just like their custom instructed them

Ngige should take over the stupid throne.

It is because of Corona and racism.

Something wey dey Integrated Science and Geography

Juliusmalema:
Number one and last I doubt infact everyone doubts that they are losing lands because of history.

Such propganda is totally false and can only come from propgandist.

Young man you emotionally spreading so many false hood all in the name of what we don't know.


The picture you painted here is a lie.

What is used in settling disputed land by people of no written agreement Mr "Igbo man"?

Dedetwo:
The above opinion is tangentially off the mark. I guess the issue OP was trying raise is if "Onitcha" is Igbo language. OP would have avoided Aniocha part of his\her hypothesis and concentrate on the Anglicization of the word, Onicha. Or try to proffer Igbo meaning of the word. I would have given the Igbo meaning of the word but nairaland since it is filled with dumbasses who are ancestral denial artists. I want those who denied their ancestral heritage to die foolishly.

Same here. They are already losing everything as we speak. Thanks to their Bini history. They are currently losing the GRA case to Nkwelle and Obosi is eyeing four quarters there. Notably Fegge.

Zik did not have foresight when he proposed that funny history as the most educated person they have that time. They forgot that any form of weakness in Igboland will cost you your land.
This quote is what they use to haunt them "onye ọbịa amarọ okere ani"

Sometimes I pity them

acidici:
This is a very interesting topic.

My parent told me that

Onicha Uku
Onicha Olona
Onicha Ugbo and
Onicha Nmili (Onitsha)

were of the same parent. When they became adult they settled down in where they are today in Delta State. But the brothers had a bitter quarrel and this got Onicha Nmili very angry that he decided to cross the Niger river to settle down where Onitsha is today.

I don't know how true this story is, but Onitsha people has similar dialect with the other Onicha's. that is quite different from other typical Igbo speaking people in the core south east.

No longer Bini again? Please you people should stick with the Bini own so as not to make it confusing for the judges

Bendeco2020:
What do anam have in common with Igbo delta?

Onitsha kingship is known as Obi..... Tell me any other town that surround onitsha that has their kingship title as Obi?


Umu dei village in Onitsha, cross to delta (Ika) you will also see the dei descendant.



Ask ur self why the Onitsha is called "Onicha Ezechima"


Those towns in ika are also the descendants of Ezechima....

I now see that you are confused. Na Eziokwu unu bụ ezigbote ndị ọbịa. What is the king of Nnewi called?
The king of Nnewi is the Obi of Otolo and he was present when the first Obi of Onitsha was upgraded to Obi.
Other Igbo towns with quarters have Obi. Incase you don't know, Obi is a title held by the first born of the first family. Even Okija, Nnobi and others have Obi though it is like 10 to 20 communities that are lead by Obi. Places like Ihiala have Okpala

Bendeco2020:
Mumu.... As u're insider and not stranger Who told you that Fegge is not in Onitsha?
Fegge is in Onitsha South. And it's still owned by Onitsha Indigene.

For now

Lovalovaphunmz:
Neither abi either

Read the alphabets slowly

Bendeco2020:
Oga stop talking rubbish.... Am Onitsha indigene, all u said here are rubbish.


Awada is own by obosi, and not Onitsha.... If there is any town gaining territory, then it's Onitsha.... Onitsha always win any land dispute issue with it's neighbors... Don't just come online be spreading fake news.

For the migration part, I can tell you that Onitsha migrated from current delta state, I don't know about the Benin story.... As you can see clearly, Onitsha don't have things in common with it Anambra neighbors but have same ancesstorial root with delta Igbos (Ika) , starting from culture, and names and traditional titles.

Ask questions if you are confused. And next time don't comment with anger. Go and finish the court case with Nkwelle if you always win. Onye ọbịa amarọ okere ani

Azmanaty:
Oga, Awada is Obosi and not ontisha. Awada is Obosi Urban and not inland. The LGA is even idemili north and not ontisha or south.

Not until 2006 my brother. We know the struggle. Just like the way Fegge and GRA are still with Onitsha at the moment

Good news. Atleast Amotekun will see work to do.


As we are signing out of this year, below is my announcement to all the people I've hurt this year with my comments on this forum. Especially my comrades from the waste side and Gworo side

Chimaokigwe:
Too many idiots in Igboland

Enyi ọ gịnị na ewe gị?

Lovalovaphunmz:
God bless me o, i want to be a philanthropist too

It is neither a job nor part time employment

Naajjii:
Go and do research IGBO were the most raided for slaves by superior empires like Igala. Even akwa ibom people raided and conquer igbo for slavery.

All these lies is just to press my button by attacking my ego so that I'll tell you things about Igala that you will use against them.
I see through it. Try harder.
No invasion in Igbo land not even by the caliphate

Naajjii:
ha ha but i gave you 2 links you are showing one what about the other link? You are even dumb nyamiri, it was stated click this link https://www.nairaland.com/4076399/igala-colonisation-northern-igbo-states/1 and copy and paste this link in full on your browser. http://medium.com@UmamehMichael/igala-colonisation-of-northern-igbo-states-1450-18th-century-2761893f615a . what is it that you dont understand? one is click and check the other is copy and past the full link. This is hard for you to get. We are grateful for Igalas for the spread of Islam to Nsukka and its surroundings. And you never owned Igalas and idomas as slaves rather its the otherway round, Igala especially raided your villages and communities for slave.

So nairaland and your email now serve as source.
Mr man Ndigbo have no history of invasion before the coming of the white men. Ask Dan fodio how he described the Igbo man. Read more

SLAP44:
So you think he is really a commander. What About zulum?

Zulum is their head of the department of Logistics which is the reason why he knows when they will attack so that he will board flight and leave the police and escorts to die like he did twice