₦airaland Forum

awa:
I think this is the other side of APC we should be ready to face between now and election 2019. More Innocents are going down...

please , Ipob, weytin consign Apc here now ?

Apc na bank or the garantor of The loan ?

Jobless Senate

You didnt wade in to #SARS It's one man dispute thats already in court you want to dabble into

What sort of bigotry reasoning is this ?!

So all Igbos aré supposed to close their acctounts. with GTB cos they have issues with Inosson .

So, if Gtb runs out of biz as they expected, what will happen to all Igbos working with them ?
Can Inosson employ them all ?

The bank should just pay him his money . Haba !



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To The fellas below, lets not be bigotry about this.
It's now you guys know Gtb is Yoruba bank . When Diamond and Fedility declined his loan and Gtb accepted it, all was cool then , abi ?

Better leave them to settle themselves

This is how govts keep piling up problems for themselves. How do you pay them now ?

I dont know The usefulness or impact of This LNSC .
I have never seen Them on bicycle in my neighbourhood . I only see their cars parked at LGA or carrying people around .

Dhugal:
Innoson is not owing the bank,rather the bank is owing him,after several court cases and two Appeal Court judgements upholding his claims against GTB.
They're now trying to fraudulently frame him for forgery of documents with which he took the loans in the first place.Loans he'd already repaid and been overdeducted,which gave rise to the cases in the first place.

Well , we all know that in Nigeria , guilty people run to report to police first to avoid getting arrested .

The Efcc claimed they went to arrest him because he declined their invitation .

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/252972-‎why-arrested-innoson-motors-chief-innocent-chukwuma-efcc.html


But Innoson claimed he was never invited .


https://politicsngr.com/2017/12/20/never-
invited-efcc-innoson-demands-know-cause-arrest/


So who do we believe now ?


I am not going to form any opinión here until I know who is lying .

Okoroawusa:
Maturity n discipline in Nigeriar begins with u,Mr Honourable.

Really ?!

Is that your mentality ?

That Hon. was a citizen like you and I

It all begins with you and I

Nimoomosuli:
This is not the matter of bending the rules for one person. Remember, Firdaus represents every Muslim woman that have passed through and will come through the Law School and Call to Bar. So, she is seeking this change on behalf of the entire Nigerian Muslim community and for generations yet unborn.

If your worry is about things becoming chaotic, that has already been taken care of because we all know that Sango and Ifa worshippers are not in any way mandated to appear in their traditional regalia at all times as Muslim women who need to wear hijab every time so they (Ifa and Sango worshippers) have nothing to claim.

A person or group makes no difference .

A traditionalist may just want to put a feather on his head for goodluck or tie a some fetish looking thing on his arm .


She represents every muslm women which should, according to this post, exclude Halima , the president's daughter and the secretary to the Body of Benchers , Mrs Turaki .

I am sure those that set the regulations were Muslims and Christians .

Nimoomosuli:
Laws and regulations are not etched in stone. They are mere alphabets strung together by some people who believe they are the authority. Almost every system that we have in place in Nigeria today was handed down to us by the British and we have been sheepishly complying without taking our religious and cultural diversities into account. Even our so-called British colonial masters have since moved on from most of these archaic system, hence the poster's reference to how the UK has long ditched the rigid rules of conditioning law students to dress in a certain way and how they have diversified by allowing a Sikh student attend classes with his turbaned head and in kaftan and how their lecturer comes to class in tight t-shirt (see excerpt below).

If Abuja and elsewhere allow female law students to don hijab under their wig, why can't it be adopted across the board? Why do we need Firdaus to tell us? Why do we need to make her refuse before we do the needful?

All we need is a little tolerance of one another and accepting ourselves as we are regardless of religion, tribal or political beliefs (except in cases that are injurious) so that we can avoid unnecessary bickering over these kinds of issues at the expense of our unity and progress as a country.

Live and let live people! Life is so short so let's stop this intolerance and enjoy our lives before death overtakes us.


Nigerian legal system differs from those of other jurisdictions to some extent. This is why I fault the unfortunate statement allegedly made by the NBA President in his comparison of our Bar to that of New York. Some British Inns, for instance, allow for the wearing of Hijab. My classmate (an Indian Sikh), Kernail Singh, was Called dressed in his turban. I know as a fact that Black and White is a strict dress code for Nigerian University and Law School students, but in England where I studied for my undergraduate Degree in Law, no one cares if you come to the class wearing football shorts and basketball vest with 'unity' cap. There were times my Jurisprudence module lecturer would appear in a tight T-shirt exposing his cute biceps and crazy tattoos, and my mind would whisper to itsel, "this won't happen in Naija!" In the BPTC programme, students appear in various colours of suits and shirts.

So we allow one person to bend the rule just a little .
Another comes asking for same, after all It's a free world . So we concurred . Then another and Another.....and Another .

At the end , what we'll have is no law again .
Thats Why we need rules and regulations in the first place .


I Will assume that when those regulations were made Muslims and Christians were part of the members .
But I can bet the traditionalist werent consulted .

maasoap:
I will say it again boldly: Buhari, Mr president and his family do not represent the face of Islam. When it suits you, you call Buhari a terrorist, extremist and Sharia advocate. When it suits you, you use him and his family as a face of moderate Muslims. One word for you all: HYPOCRITES!

The president's daughter was only used as a reference because She was found in similar situation.
If there are others , I am sure they would have been used as a reference too. After all , you must agree the president's daughter is a devoted muslim , or dont you ?

If you dont agree , tell us Why She cant be used cos we see her as a devoted muslim . Except you want to tell us otherwise

oyb:
as lawyers often do, this fellow has said a lot without saying anything.

he can also be said to be guilty of the same attention seeking he has been accusing Ms Firdaus as, with all his long references to his position as 'head of bar'


http://www.lawschoollagos.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/code-of-conduct-for-law-students-lagos-campus.pdf

i have searched, and i found only the lagos state law school regulations. these regulations say nothing whatsoever on hijab being forbidden.
this is the relevant excerpt below:

2.0 DRESSING:
All students must be well dressed at all times in Regulation Wear.
2.1 MALE: Dark suit, white shirt, black tie (not bow tie), white breast pocket handkerchief (optional), black socks and black shoes (Sandals are not allowed).
During hot weather, male students may be permitted to wear white long sleeve shirts with black tie, black trousers (charcoal grey or dark blue may be allowed) and black shoes to class.
2.2 FEMALE: Dark gown or dark suit, (Black, dark blue or charcoal grey), white blouse, (not translucent or Tee- shirts), black skirt covering the knees and black covered shoes (Sandals, lace ups or peep toes are not allowed). There should be no embroidery and or trimmings of any type on the gown, suit or blouse; and only moderate jewelry should be worn- (No large dangling or coloured earrings, or bracelets are allowed). Also, coloured hair attachment, coloured braids, glitters or colouring of any type in the hair is prohibited.
During hot weather, female students may be permitted to wear plain white blouses (not translucent), not tee-shirts, black skirts covering the knee (charcoal grey or dark blue may be permitted) and black covered shoes to the class.
-1-

2.3 ALL Gowns and Skirts –
(a) Must be graceful, but not cling provocatively to the body;
(b) Must not be above the knee; and
(c) Must not have high slits (i.e. above the knee); and only at the back.

2.4 ALL Blouses or Shirts –
(a). Must be graceful, but not cling provocatively to the body;
(a) Must not be transparent; and
(c). Must not expose sensitive parts of the body i.e. it must not expose your cleavage,upper arm, stomach and/or navel.
• The above mode of dressing is mandatory for both male and female Students for attending lectures and other extra Curricula activities, and for attendance at Magistrate Courts and all Superior Courts.




like so many others in this matter, the fellow says hijab is not allowed - but unlike lawyers everywhere, he cannot point to section 4 , subsection 3, rule x - all he can say is 'it is not allowed' . everything said so far on this matter points to unwritten tradition/culture, not actual rules/policy.

equally odd is the deliberate ignorance on this fellows part. he says the abuja campus allows for a black light hijab, but only a head scarf. a person who studied in the uk, where they are very open on these things, somehow does not know that the hijab is a head scarf? what was ms firdaus wearing? was it not a scarf?

https://www.channel4.com/media/c4-news/images/22_niqabgraphic2.jpg

so what is MS firdaus wearing, if not a head scarf?
https://i1.wp.com/media.premiumtimesng.com/wp-content/files/2017/12/Nigerian-Law-School-graduate-Amasa-Firdaus.jpg?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1




there are multiple issues here
1) as stated before, no one has been able to point to the actual written, signed off rule

2) nigeria is a multi religious country. contrary to the popular belief, Muslims have often been quiet in the face of different attitudes which are non secular or showing disregard for people of different faiths. i went to a government primary school, where christian prayers were said during assembly. muslim prayers were not said. the same happens in most dining halls in so called secular government secondary schools - christain prayers are said, muslim prayers are not said. the fact that this was not protested does not make it right. of course, if one day, a muslim had chosen to protest and insist that muslim prayers be said during assembly, or during a meal, the next thing would be the screams of islamic agenda - it is in teh rules, render unto ceasar - over a traditin slanting towards one religion.

3)Halima Buhari, is a very beautiful and well spoken young lady, but i do not recall anyone appointing her as a beacon for muslim ladies in nigeria. are all msulim ladies daughters of preseidents? are all muslim ladies married to billionaires? are all muslim ladies on social media?

4)even if zahra buhari felt the same way as firdaus, she would not have insisted on a hijab uring her call to bar because pdp, fan kayode, the nigerian press etc, would immedaiately jump on this as buhari's islamisationa agenda. we have seen all sorts of ridiculos allegations already - was it not earlier this year where the same dailies were shouting about a so called scheme to remove crk from the national curriculum?

5) as a multireligious country, some things do not need to be stated. friday is jumat. In 100% muslim countries, Friday is the weekend. in nigeria, mst employers etal tactily and quietly allow muslim staff to take 2 hours off for jumat. that is religious inclusion. nigeria is 50% muslim, and as i have stated repeatedly on other threads,wearing the hijab is not an issue in any other profession in this country, be it engineering, corporate nigeria, etal.



this is double speak. the issue at question is not what people wear to class; it is what people wear to the bar, and ultimately, what people are allowed to wear to pratise law. i am suprised that a so called lawyer does not understand basic logic - which is what law is about in the end.



yes, it was premediatated, because this is actually the only way to bring this issue to the forefront and let it be closed once and for all. Nigerian muslims have the right to wear hijab when practicing law. there should not be any ambiguity or subjection to a judges' whim.

i will continue to reference Rosa parks in this matter. the issues are broadly similar. for years there has been an unwritten restriction on female lawyers wearing hijab in the law court. people will say tradition, way it is done etc etc. there are NO written rules that speak to this. one person has decided to stand up and challenge this. we are a secular country yes - we are also a multicultural country. accomodations must be made for others religious choices. Modest/devout muslim women wear teh hijab AT ALL TIMES. working women have already struck a compromise - in the workplace they wear the hijab, not niqab, not chador, not burqah. this is because they also unndersatnd the need to look professional.

if you feel you can wear native doctor clothing/ cele clothing etc, and loo professional, you are also free to push for it. in the case in osun, i simply saw people making themselves look daft and silly.



actually, that is where teh fellow is most wrong. in the end, this will be about business and numbers. there is a large contingent of Muslim lawyers and clients. in addition to this, they are well heeled. hijab is a non issue, and IT WILL sail through.

in the end, the issue is about choice. i can choose not to grow a beard; however you should not be forcing me not to grow a beard based on a nebulous tradition. a lady can choose not to wear hijab - however she should not be forced not to wear hijab. end of.

i seem to remember the guy also did some stuff in malaysia - well this is from court in malaysia -

sad that the guy went round the world but still came out an intolerant prick. the story of nigerians

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAYeAAAAJGU1YzRhYzI0LTI3NWMtNGFhZC1hM2JkLWUwZTA5ZDVhMTJlNg.jpg

She was not forced not to wear the hijab , What She was politely told was that if She was going to attend the programme She must dress approriately. She can wear her hijab anywhere else She so pleases .
I hope you know the difference now ?



If I say dont wear hijab to my party , the best you can do to protest is not attend .
You cant come and try to create a scene after you have been forewarned .

habtund:
Liar, u r not from Osun

He's not even Yoruba
I've caught on many post claiming to be from any Yoruba state

adeolakemi:
as a Yoruba this is nowhere beautiful you need to be in Oshogbo to see how dirty and filthy it is I'm ashamed of my fellow Yoruba's there ..... osun =burial ground

You again !
Will you kindly STFU ?!

Screaming on every post that you are Afonja .
You just opened ur Nairaland account in October .
Why are you Ipobs full low self-esteem?
Cant you be proud of your Ipob heritage regardless ?

I give up !

This is just too absurd

highrank:
Femi Fani kayode needs an orientation ,Nigeria is not a secular state rather it is a multi religious state.A secular state does not believe in God but in Nigeria we have faith in God which clearly manifest in our National anthem." O God of creation direct our noble cause....."

Fani kayode should go and find out what is the meaning of secular state.Nigeria is a multi religious state which always observes holiday base on religion such as Christmas holiday,Mawlud holiday ,Eid fitril holiday e.t.c .It is lack of orientation that can make one to refer to Nigeria as a secular state.

Hijab is a constitutional right of Miss Firdaws Amasa and no one can denied her that. She is a Muslim lawyer not a lawyer Muslim she has been practising islam before studying law and not vice versa .Therefore she can not forsake Islam because of her profession.

I can only refer to those people who called themselves Muslims who are castigating sist. Firdaws because of her Hijab as hypocrites.They want to be westerners and modernists and still be Muslims, even when the Britons have consigned the wigs to the waste bins of history.

I am sorry , you aré wrong .

A secular state is simple a state not controlled or influenced by any particular religion or religious doctrine or principles .

The united states and France aré secular states and the eslogan of US is IN GOD WILL TRUST

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_state

Nigeria is also a secular state too, but ironically our politicians have learned to use religion to manipulate , disintergrate and suppress the gullible populace largely for their political gains

ednut1:
With all the pressing issues wey dey na hijab matter pple carry for head chai

Four years ago, it was a topical issue in the UK too .

Every secular state must have to address it at one point

bedspread:
EXACTLY THE SAME WAY CNN AND MEDIA HOUSES DECIEVED Hilary Clinton, Obama and The Democratic Party IN THE USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS...............

BUHARI /OYEGUN/APC WILL BE SHOCKED BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS DECLARED WINNER..........
THE DEFEAT WILL BE UNEXPLAINABLE

Hillary did win the majority votes .
Trump just won the important ones .
If it were to be Nja , Hillary would be the winner

KingsJohnson:
Story, you guys fink is by poll


American Election dat ushered in Donald John Trump comes to mind

Hillary did win the majority votes .
Trump just won the important ones .

If it were to be Nja , Hillary would be the winner

ryfoz:
rifoz4love@gmail.com, I have mi-a500s, what I wanted to ask you is if it possible to work a battery of higher capacity for it.

I have done some research but all the ones I found couldn't fit in well except for the infinix hot 1/2 battery but the capacity is still low, I am yet to try the Gionee m5 mini battery: it's 4000 mah, it's removable, it's a 5" device and the contact looks like a good match by merely watching the battery on Jumia set, the problem is my local igbo sellers don't have.

What do you think? This 2000mah ba3 of my fone is frustrating me

I dont think the battery in the picture can fit in .

It must be the Same size or not longer in length .

Every time u hear scarcity these past days but in my area at Ijegun i dont see any queues. I walked into a Conoil station along Ijegun/ Ikotun road and thought fuel easily . Infact , only two people were buying .


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I just came out this morning and most gás stations selling yesterday are not selling again .
Those selling now have long queues .

All in less than 20 hours

ryfoz:
Hello, can we talk on WhatsApp, I am interested in knowing about the "padding" you're talking about

ok.
but I am not on whatsapp now.
It's about remodelling a battery to work with another phone .

It's usually done when you cant get /afford the original battery .
You can drop your email or whatsapp for better illustration.
The first No. below is my whatsapp

Ceereeab:
Sorry for the late response, been a while. Yes i padded it.

Dont bother . I've padded it too
I can even pad a battery for it myself now

This is indepth

babaskool:
This matter is actually very simple and straightforward than it is being made to be.
Firstly Miss Firdaus get yourself a good lawyer, instruct him to bring an application for enforcement of your fundamental rights via the FREP rules 2009.

One of the prayers you would be seeking as a relief is that the actions of staff of the council of legal education on the day of your call to bar infringed on your right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion

Please remind your lawyer to be reasonable and only ask that you may be called at the next call to bar which is April 2018.

Also please tell him to institute your case in the Federal High court and should only make a case against the council of legal education and not the body of benchers (the body is the highest supreme body in the land ) they might feel offended

Kind regards
Akinola Samuel Eluyefa

Does this apply to me a Muslim getting a bank loan and being exempted from paying the interest cause it infringes on my freedom of thought , conscience and religion too ?

adeolakemi:
what's sexy about Yoruba huh! one of the reasons I don't identify myself as Yoruba is the noise called language it sounds more like incantation and its good in loading molue buses

Will you kindly STFU !

You aint Yoruba .

You are Ipob undercover as a Yoruba. Out We all know better

Corruption is big business in Nigéria
This thing will certainly kill us If We dont do simething fast .
This Buhari's approach is not cutting it enough for me .

When one exemption is made before the law, it'll lead to others asking to be exempted . At the end, what we'll have is anarchy

When one exemption is made before the law, it'll lead to others asking to be exempted . At the end, what we'll have is anarchy .

Next thing now is for her to go get a bank loan and when It's time to pay, she should tell them that as a Muslim she's exempted from paying the interest .

We need leaders not politicians .

If they have oil, is there anything bad in exploring it, whether We restructure or not.?