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lovediehatelive:
What happened to your initial reply, seems they remove it


This is the first time I'm hearing about this issue.


I had to dig about it and it's troublesome what I've found

Is it really what happened?

Is it really recorded or you just made this up?

I have been banned...words removed... threatened... ridiculed...


Check my topics on the islamic section ... it is a simple question which the gatekeepers who think they know Islam can't even answer... even with Ai


All I mean all you know about Islam is a ruse... a lie... a mixup box... a claim that once you scratch the surface and see the cancer the infection the manipulation....


Just go through the topics

I have 50 topics before I move to podcast

lovediehatelive:
I checked Google and after some deep back and forth I came across this video by the Apologeticsroadshow on YouTube. It's their most popular video.


This video must be trolling.


Because if the things here are what was recorded, I can't believe it.

Can you please explain I didn't quite get what you are saying?

You mean is a lie or truth?

If Christain and Jewish literature considered apocryphal ,fables and mere stories can find there way into the Quran


Then every hadith is Sahih not daif


I think this is just


Everything about the Quran is a big fat lie

Everything the writers claimed are all lies

Which could mean 2 things
1.the writes wants the future people to know Islam is a lie
2.the writers are clueless and contradict themselves


All the same who wrote the Quran?

lovediehatelive:
Bro, you could be taking this out of context.


The word rode can mean several things.

Out of context?

Can you tell us what happened ?and don't be embarrassed by what the 11 Pakistanis did to Qutham


It was a diddy- fied night ...while Lionel riche was playing ...all night long


It was from SAHIH HADITH... it was narrated by the eye WITNESS... It was from an Islamic source...

lovediehatelive:
All you wrote is lies.

Where is it written originally.


Which verse

Asalamwalaiykum habibi
How is family I pray Al Rahman Yasu al massih be with you.


Now you accused me that ALL I wrote is a lie.

Are you suprised at this hadith sahih or you haven't heard it before?


The details shock you?

​بِاسْمِ الآبِ وَالاِبْنِ وَالرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ
​Bismi l-Abi wa l-Ibni wa r-Ruhi l-Qudus



Alright my dear friends, a challenge was declared yesterday with a tag price of #500,000 or 400usd

And why was the challenge? The important of it is that The SHAHADA is the first pillar , voice, property, ownership, faith , ingredient, foundation of Islam that all other IMAM, DUA , DEEN is rested upon.

Which is. ....lai ilah ilah Lah Muhammad rosullahi, thre is no other god but Allah and Muhammed is his prophet

Now the 500k question is .... where in the Quran that is the word of Allah that is above all and us clear and detailed can we find it?

Please think for yourself

Instead of answering all we see from some clueless gatekeepers are insults and diversion

Banning my post or removing it or threatening me or hacking my phone won't work.

In zaik naik voice.... show me one equivocal unambiguous statement in the Quran .

If the 1st pillar is a ruse... whatelse is a lie

Antlisiam:
Where is lai lah ilah lah ... dem ask you. Shey allah recognize wetin dem dey call Hadith nii abi na allah be the author of your hadith like quran

My brother please don't allow him to divert or jump to another topic...

Let's stay focus

Once they are clueless or no reply they resort to insults, and diversion.



How can the 1st pillar..... a whole pillar not have foundation.

Gabrielshow26:
It's all lies, my bro. They had gone too far with their "stories" before they realized that there existed irreconcilable differences with the Torah and Injeel.

That's why they claim the Torah and Injeel were corrupted😅. In my opinion, I see the Quran and subsequently the Hadith as a farrago of tales and fables.

Ask them one simple questio.....just 1.... where in the Quran does it says unequivocal unambiguous statement that the Holy bible( torah zabur injeel ) have been corrupted ?


Who corrupted it? Waraqah or sabeens

Where was it corrupted? In Jerusalem or Arabia?

TenQ:
The shahada was invented to make Mohammed the official deputy of Allah

He shares knowledge with Allah:
Only Allah and hus Messenger know...

He shares names with Allah
Just as Allah has 99 names, Mohammed also does and some of these names are Allah's names

He shares authority with Allah
The shahada is just an example: no man can become a Muslim without recital of Mohammed and Allah

Blasphemy against Allah has forgiveness but blasphemy against Mohammed doesn't have forgiveness

Even Allah and his Angels pray upon Mohammed. This is how important Mohammed is

Just waiting for there top debaters..

Lies of many years and centuries

Will be destroyed

ALM

islam alledgedly has 5 pillars

and one of them is Hajj

now if a poor man or a man couldnt go then he die... that means he did 4 pillars of faith ?

​بِاسْمِ الآبِ وَالاِبْنِ وَالرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ
​Bismi l-Abi wa l-Ibni wa r-Ruhi l-Qudus



On todays lecture please I will like you to open your mind and think for yourself

We are talking about SHAHADA in Islam a very fundamental word , you can say is the first word a child speaks so is like the first word of the convert , without this words or sentence your faith is incomplete.

The Al Quran kareem is a clear book precise and detailed, A direct word of God that it is for all time, it can't be changed and forever true

Infact it is the 1st pillar of faith a very important block that all other depends upon

Which is Lai Lah ilah lah Muhammad Rosullahi
There is no god, but Allah and Muhammed is His messenger.

Now I want to ask where in the Quran can we find this verse?

Let me simplify it where in the Quran does it says that this is the 1st pillar of faith and this is it?

Let me ask like Zakir Naik ... give me (us) one unequivocal unambiguous statement in the Quran that says this ?

500k to your account of choice
ALM




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Please tag any top Muslim debater you kno

mamawin:
JazakhaLlahu khairan, May Allaah increase you in wisdom

Can you tell me 1 good thing about Islam that is so spectacular and wonderful?


Please just 1 not 2 or 3

Just 1

DeepSight:
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All of these are confirmed Islamic facts and teaching.

Please focus

What are you trying to say?

TenQ:
I will like to know
1. What does Sacrifice mean in Islam?
2. Who do you sacrifice to?
3. What is the sacrifice for?
4. Why do you sacrifice Life in Islam?

Four questions: What, Who, Purpose, Why

In contrast:
Sacrifice in Christianity is giving up to God something that belongs to you
“In the Torah, God commanded sacrifices such as burnt offerings for worship, sin offerings for atonement, and peace offerings for fellowship showing that sin requires the shedding of blood. However, these sacrifices were temporary and had to be repeated. Christianity teaches that this system was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, who is the perfect and final sacrifice. Instead of humans continually offering animals, God provided the sacrifice Himself, once and for all, so that forgiveness is given to those who place their faith in Him.”

So, will the knowledgeable Muslims answer these four questions. Support with Hadiths and Qur'an verses will be appreciated.

Thanks

You dey look for trouble...who go answer you...

Ordinary who wrote the Quran ? No answer
Who pays for your sins? No response
Allah has a colour? No answer
Allah has an Allah? No answer
Who is Allah? No response
Allah committed the 1st shirk? No response
Where is shahada in the quran ? Problem
Quranic miracle? No evidence
Proof that Jesus is a Muslim? Insults
Jesus bow down , to whom his father , is Allah a father? No

Ok let's wait for response
All those who are reporting me and hacking my line... continue



Back to the topic .....

TenQ:
What is death to you?

To my God, Death is homecoming back to the Source of Life.
If the owner of life recalls you back to Himself, is it barbaric?

Do you think you are also barbaric because you have in your life killed millions?

You should have asked him ....which of the sons?

Allah mixed up alot of things

Think on this ....picture this in your mind


1.A child of 6 years married to a 52 years old man,at 9 years old this old grand pa f****k her silly
Does that child has a right from the start

2. You went to your own son house by commission or omission you saw your daughter in law nak****dress... you collected your son's wife and disowned your Son

3.You invaded a community that did not attack you ...and kill all the adults they young girls that are pre pubescent 3 years to 14 years ...you raped them and marry them


4.You can marry a pre pubescent girl and divorce her.



Let me stop here

I dare any top Muslim debaters to ask me for the evidence in the Quran and hadiths.... I dare you

As usual when an empty tank has nothing to stay he will resort to insults and diversion


Who committed the 1st shirk?
Evidence was given

Yet instead of rebutting it , empty shell decided to disgrace himself the more with nothing but emptiness like someone suffering from camel urine or devil's urine in his ear


Now back to the Question....who committed the 1st shirk ? Islamic Allah that commanded it? The angels who obeyed it ? Or Islamic Adam who enjoyed the adoration. Worship...or my guy ilbliss who insisted that this is SHIRK and refused to bow in prostration to MAN and was Punished for it by sending him to hell

Despite he was not an Angel.... and it's Shirk to bow to man in heaven that angels bow to Islamic Aallah

Lai lah ilah lah ibliss rosul lahi

Rashduct4luv:
I don't worship people! Neither do i genuflect but i do greet.

Of course to worship Allah without partners is the reason we are created!

Allah says in Quran 51:56:
I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me.

You worship a man...ok you venerate a man ...and that is worship According to Islam

Rashduct4luv:
My Father is not God!

Is your father God?

Is Allah A Father?

Allah said he would have been a father if he sees a girlfriend


That is why he is not a father

Rashduct4luv:
The greatest sin is Islam is the association of partners to Allah especially in worship!

Anyone who dies in that will never be in paradise but hell forever.

But Allah is the 1st to commit shirk

what is SHIRK?

SHIRK is a grave sin that Allah hated wirh passion, infact it is called the worst sin

furthermore SHIRK is associating partner with ALLAH in worship, devotion and obedience

BOWING TO ANYONE WITH YOIR FACE ON THE GROUND IN REVRENCE OTHER THAN ALLAH IS SHIRK... ANYONE WHO DOES THAT IS PROMISED HELL AND JUDGEMENT



​"Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin." (Surah An-Nisa, 4:48)


​"Indeed, he who associates others with Allah—Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers." (Surah Al-Ma'idah, 5:72


​"And it was already revealed to you and to those before you that if you should associate [anything] with Allah, your work would surely become worthless, and you would surely be among the losers." (Surah Az-Zumar

The worst that can happen to someone is to use AI to be replying which will implicate you as it will go further to expose you that


You are not the one talking ...


Who wrote the Qur'an ?

Is it you ?

Is it me?

Please i beg everyone to check this arabic word out for yourself

Forget Dogma forget what you are told... forget what I am telling you ....check it out by yourself

Sibghah. S-B-GH




Bear in mind that it is ALLAH SPEAKING in HiS QURAN....HDITH AND TASFIR is men trying to correct or white wash the verse because it embarrasses ALLAH .

And contradicts claims in the quran and show its human authorship.


...I await replies...

There is more from where the verse came from

najib632:
The word صبغ is not used in the fashion you are attributing it to, it used in relation to soaking or engulfing which is the root word it stems from. The proper word to identify the hue or tint of an object is لون.

If you want to quote the verse more literally you could say:

The pigment [or dye] of Allāh. And who is better than Allāh in pigmenting [or dying]? And we are worshippers of Him.

The above will not really pass the message of the verse in English. Which goes against the essence of the Qur'an as it is meant to be pondered upon and understood.

An exegesis on the verse:

English - Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Abridged)
(And He is the Hearer, the Knower). Allah said,
﴾صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ﴿
(The Sibghah of Allah). Ad-Dahhak said that Ibn `Abbas commented, "The religion of Allah." This Tafsir was also reported of Mujahid, Abu Al-`Aliyah, `Ikrimah, Ibrahim, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak, `Abdullah bin Kathir, `Atiyah Al-`Awfi, Ar-Rabi` bin Anas, As-Suddi and other scholars.

A more proper translation would be:
English - Sahih International
[And say, "Ours is] the religion of Allāh. And who is better than Allāh in [ordaining] religion? And we are worshippers of Him."


I will not bother to answer your other questions since they are something you would've known if you were actually interested enough to read the chapter.

The Qur'an is not a book that can be interpreted by those who lack a deep understanding of the Arabic language. A common issue with many orientalist critiques of Islam is a lack of rigorous research. This often stems from an obliviousness toward the vast depth of Islamic scholarship, or perhaps a deliberate attempt to underestimate it. Either way, it reflects poorly on the academic standard of their arguments.

4. The conclusion... you failed to reassert what

we ( ALLAH) are worshippers of HIM( ALLAH)
Lahun abidun

The questions back to you is explain this place to me (us)
Bear in mind Quran is the direct speach of ALLAH.


Instead of trying to insult me...
Explain what the verse mean since you know more than me ....do DAWAH to make it clear


So in conclusion

ALLAH has a colour/ dye/tint
Allah worship Allah
Based on Quran 2 vs 138.
Remember this is Allah speaking...and Quran is clear and detailed.



​بِاسْمِ الآبِ وَالاِبْنِ وَالرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ
​Bismil-Aabi wal-Ibni war-Ruuhil-Qudus

najib632:
The word صبغ is not used in the fashion you are attributing it to, it used in relation to soaking or engulfing which is the root word it stems from. The proper word to identify the hue or tint of an object is لون.

If you want to quote the verse more literally you could say:

The pigment [or dye] of Allāh. And who is better than Allāh in pigmenting [or dying]? And we are worshippers of Him.

The above will not really pass the message of the verse in English. Which goes against the essence of the Qur'an as it is meant to be pondered upon and understood.

An exegesis on the verse:

English - Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Abridged)
(And He is the Hearer, the Knower). Allah said,
﴾صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ﴿
(The Sibghah of Allah). Ad-Dahhak said that Ibn `Abbas commented, "The religion of Allah." This Tafsir was also reported of Mujahid, Abu Al-`Aliyah, `Ikrimah, Ibrahim, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak, `Abdullah bin Kathir, `Atiyah Al-`Awfi, Ar-Rabi` bin Anas, As-Suddi and other scholars.

A more proper translation would be:
English - Sahih International
[And say, "Ours is] the religion of Allāh. And who is better than Allāh in [ordaining] religion? And we are worshippers of Him."


I will not bother to answer your other questions since they are something you would've known if you were actually interested enough to read the chapter.

The Qur'an is not a book that can be interpreted by those who lack a deep understanding of the Arabic language. A common issue with many orientalist critiques of Islam is a lack of rigorous research. This often stems from an obliviousness toward the vast depth of Islamic scholarship, or perhaps a deliberate attempt to underestimate it. Either way, it reflects poorly on the academic standard of their arguments.

3.you raise the notion that I have to be arabic before I can know arabic ... based on your assertion that means you can't be a Muslim unless you are an arab.

Arabic is more or less like any other language that I fell in love with... is not hard like CHINESE OR EDO LANGUAGES.

SO yes I understand arabic language and I am learning It to communicate, research and read the Quran


Arabic language is like another language...nothing special

najib632:
The word صبغ is not used in the fashion you are attributing it to, it used in relation to soaking or engulfing which is the root word it stems from. The proper word to identify the hue or tint of an object is لون.

If you want to quote the verse more literally you could say:

The pigment [or dye] of Allāh. And who is better than Allāh in pigmenting [or dying]? And we are worshippers of Him.

The above will not really pass the message of the verse in English. Which goes against the essence of the Qur'an as it is meant to be pondered upon and understood.

An exegesis on the verse:

English - Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Abridged)
(And He is the Hearer, the Knower). Allah said,
﴾صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ﴿
(The Sibghah of Allah). Ad-Dahhak said that Ibn `Abbas commented, "The religion of Allah." This Tafsir was also reported of Mujahid, Abu Al-`Aliyah, `Ikrimah, Ibrahim, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak, `Abdullah bin Kathir, `Atiyah Al-`Awfi, Ar-Rabi` bin Anas, As-Suddi and other scholars.

A more proper translation would be:
English - Sahih International
[And say, "Ours is] the religion of Allāh. And who is better than Allāh in [ordaining] religion? And we are worshippers of Him."


I will not bother to answer your other questions since they are something you would've known if you were actually interested enough to read the chapter.

The Qur'an is not a book that can be interpreted by those who lack a deep understanding of the Arabic language. A common issue with many orientalist critiques of Islam is a lack of rigorous research. This often stems from an obliviousness toward the vast depth of Islamic scholarship, or perhaps a deliberate attempt to underestimate it. Either way, it reflects poorly on the academic standard of their arguments.

2 . The point you raised is the tasfirs and hadiths footnote on the verse, which is really good but it creates multiple problems

A. QURAN word of Allah and Hadith , tasfir which one is the one ALLAH gave prophet Qutham?

B.which one is more reliable

C.Allah repeatedly said it in the QUR'AN that is a complete package, clear and precise and true.. you trying to use human commentary to white wash what Allah have said is haram and a shirk

D how dare you as a human contradict the very words of Allah . astragafullahi

Remember the verse....Surah 2 vs 138 ....ALLAH IS SPEAKING NOT YOU

THE COLOUR/DYE/TINT OF ALLAH

How is family, hope you are doing good!

Concerning your reply thanks for been civil though you went off...please let's make it civil


1. You talked about the colour of Allah as TINT and that I didn't understand it but after your explanation you still ended up with dye... and still back to my point ...Allah has a colour

The arabic word is. Sibghah. S-B-GH. which is technically translated as dye , paint , tint which all points 👉 to a colour..... ALLAH HAS A COLOUR.

note this is Allah speaking not Qutham not Jibril or sahabas. But Allah SWT

Surah 2 vs 138
The Colour/dye/ paint/ tint of Allah

Which confirms that Allah has a colour.

You won't be ready for my answer

how did i end up in this scenario of space and time

IAM4BAT4plus4:
😂 You are panicking already


Does it mean you can't explain those verses? And mind you, I have a whole lot o

Please concentrate.


Are you scared?


I asked a question
You agreed to answer...only with another questions....

Though is not conventional or reasonable I said outvof the 2 questions I will answer 1 ...then you answer my QUESTION...then I answer the other 1 from you.


Only for you to say you have more questions


Are u drinking 🐫 camel urine again?
Or the devil urine is blocking your ear and nose ?


Now concentrate
Should I answer 1 of your question ..and you answer mine( NAME ONE GOOD THING ABOUT ISLAM?) then I answer the remaining 1

Remember I am the one that first ask the simple question.

Don't panic