Qasim6: I will slap you around with evidence so bad holy communion will start tasting sour in your mouth. You think our religion is like yours with nothing as proof, no evidence, no reliable scripture, only I saw Jesus in my dream and in sha Allah. You must be kidding!
You suddenly don't understand Arabic? When you have been jumping from thread to thread shouting Al-zutt and analysing Qur'anic arabic.
When you provide response to the one gave you, I'll give you another.
And I'll also want you to respond to my refutation of your Qur'an contain apocryphal stories hence it is false. Why do you think the canonised books contain absolute truth and the non canonised books contain absolute falsehood, such that if the Qur'an contains anything from apocryphal then it automatically make it false.
For now, I'm outta here
Alfa onigbo are you sure you are alright? Why jumping from one topic to the other, can you stay in one place.
Let's settle one before another
So if camel 🐫 urine isn't too much for you
You said you will prove the Quran is the word of Allah and it is true
I said please give me (us) one or two
You brought some arabic numerical miracles, but because others are also reading it I said make it simple for us in English
But really of all the Quranic blunders you picked Islamic numeric miracle ... are you sure ? A 1970 wish wash ? With me? Haaaaa A conjectures that even Muslims rejected
Please write the arabic words in English and see me destroy it with 2 replies
TenQ: You said: There are mutawatir hadith where the companions see Jibril : can you quote such hadiths and their chain of reference? How can you prove these
You said: And the prophet indeed spoke with Allah on the night of Isra wal-miraj. Unfortunately, if this is true, it brings up several problems within Islam.
Did Mohammed literally go to paradise cause you must answer my questions if indeed he went to paradise.
i can bet my 2 plots of land in ijebu ode that he will never answer you ... rather insult... just watch and see.
always making claims no evidence
all what you know about islam is lies ... just ask qquestion the nexr thing ...everything fall yakata
is only nominal christains they can hoodwink( i say this in humility to my Saviour)
I thought your God died on Friday? Is it 3 days and 3 night already? Well, you can believe whatever lies you want to believe, that's non of my problem any way.
You claimed prophet Muhammad was only making up the text of Qur'an as he go
Let me share with you a feature of the Qur'an, maybe, just maybe it will make you think deeply and free yourself from lies.
The Qur'an was revealed over 23 yrs, there are verses that are answers to questions asked in real time, there are verses that are prophecies, all kind of verses... Now in modern time, we discover opposite words tend to have same count, it's something you can easily verify, so don't come back here with your foolishness.
Al-dunya - Al akhira–115 times Al-Hayat - Al Mawt – 145 times Al-salihat - Al-sayyiat – 167 times Al bard - Al Harr – 4 times And so much more....
The occurrences are so profound that you can't call it coincidence but the author intended it even before the first word of the Qur'an 'Read' was revealed.
Is this what a book where the author is only just making it up as he go supposed to look like? You think the Qur'an is a copy and paste job like your synoptics? You must be a joke.
I can see uou are still sleeping or maybe drinking camel urine.
Ok wake up don't sleep
Everyone did you hear when he said he will bring proof that the Quran is the word of Allah?
Did you hear him say this? And I ask for just 2 short evidences...
What did he do?
He wrote some Arabic words with some fantasy numbers... abdul no one understood what you wrote... can you simplify it in English language for everyone to understand in English?
Now this time calm down don't panic
Give me ( us ) one or two proofs that Quran is the word of the Almighty, that it is true and credible? And if I find 3 or 4 evidences to counter it from the original Quran and sahih hadiths will you stop following Qutham?
MaxInDHouse: Some of the writings are proverbial so if care is not taken different readers will translate it differently but the truth remains that Islam has failed woefully!😟
My brother please understand thisal Quran kareem is the direct word of Allah not man not angel..... this is a fact
Another thing is that it is clear and detailed guidance...... this is a fact.
Now let's bring those 2 touted parroted Islamic truth into Quran 2 vs 138.... then you see a problem and more problems and lies of centuries
The arabic word used. ....sibghata.....that means dye, colour, tint,
Another araabic word lahu abidun.....we are worshippers of Him
What?
If you use the above 2 facts above.
It means Allaah has a colour It means Allah worship another Allah
Infact the haadith and tasfir complicated it more
It shows that the Quran is not what it says it was I have 30 something verses like that ...
Muslims please read it for yourselves with the Dogma you were told and see for yourself
I pray RUH AL QUDUS open your eyes to see truth that YASUA AL MASSIH is the TRUTH to the glory of AL RAB
Qasim6: I can prove the Qur'an is the word of the creator of this universe, but I'm not in the mood to grant you d*nce blasphemers that now because your foolishness is comic to me.
If you are not slow, you will know those books you are calling apocryphal they are no better off or worst off from the ones they canonised for you. They all books written by anonymous authors, written years after the events they narrate. So on what ground do you believe the canonised books contain absolute truth and the un canonised contain absolute false?
You are just slow and you have no one to tell you.
How are you ? Today our Lord YASUA AL MASSAIH ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
Concerning what you wrote you made several claims..
But let's start from the first one Prove to me ( us) that Quran is the word of Allah?
Please just 2 short evidence Please don't panic Just 2 short evidence
Does Allah have a colour? Does Allah have another Allah that He WORSHIPPED
Quran 2:138 (Surah Al-Baqarah) Arabic: صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ ۖ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِ صِبْغَةً ۖ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ عَابِدُونَ Allah is a dye colour , and we are His worshipper
We must note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the Gospel of John are not the words of “Christ,” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not say such words at all.
Christ never said that He was the Word
With extensive study and knowledge, we will find that they are the words of a Jewish person named (Philo of Alexandria) (20 BC - 40 AD) who lived in the Hellenistic era in Alexandria. He was a philosopher and thinker who was influenced by Greek philosophy.
It is known that John wrote his Gospel after the death of Philo and borrowed the term from him.the Word
Then if the Word is God and the Word became flesh, this means God becoming flesh, and this is a change in God, and their book says 6 “I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. [Malachi 3:6]
*****(The crucifixion of Christ is pure fantasy) %%%% (A)
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In the Holy Qur’an, God denied the crucifixion of Christ:
Surah an-Nisa' 157. And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.
158. But Allah raised him up to Himself. Allah is Mighty and Wise.
Islam says: (Jesus, peace be upon him, was neither killed nor crucified)
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The most common belief among Christians is that Jesus was crucified and died.
But the question is:
Who said that Jesus was crucified and died, and that this actually happened?
In fact, when we look at the verses
that Christians use to prove this belief, we find that 95% of these verses are from Paul's letters.
The verses used to prove this belief are very few from the Gospels,
which raises a question mark about their source.
And whether Jesus really said that he would die on the cross?
Let us examine together and examine this compelling evidence
of the contradiction between their beliefs and the Bible:
1 - At the moment of the Roman soldiers' approaching crucifixion,
Christ withdrew to himself in the Garden of Gethsemane and prayed to God the Father.
He called upon Him and begged Him to save him from this ordeal.
From this, we can see that crucifixion
was not the true purpose of Christ's presence on earth.
Otherwise, He would have surrendered to crucifixion without resistance or seeking God's help.
(Luke 22:42):
(“Father, if you are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me.”"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 - None of Christ's followers were present at Christ's crucifixion,
except for a few women.
In fact, some accounts in the Gospels cast doubt on their presence there.
This doubt comes from Christian scholars themselves,
based on the testimony of witnesses. So what does it tell us?
They can't even agree on what Jesus was wearing, drinking, doing, or saying at the time of the crucifixion.
Matthew 27:28 tells us:
The Roman soldiers dressed Jesus in a scarlet robe.
(They stripped Him and put a scarlet robe on Him..)
John 19:2 says:
(and dressed Him in a purple robe.)
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Matthew 27:34 says:
(The Romans gave Jesus sour wine mixed with gall.)
Mark 15:23 says: (It was mixed with myrrh.)
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Mark 15:25 tells us: (Jesus was crucified before the third hour.)
But John 19:14-15 says:
It was about the sixth hour.
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Luke 23:46 says that Jesus' last words were "Father, into your hands I commend my spirit."
But John 19:30 says they were "It is finished!"
Now, wait a minute.
Jesus's righteous followers would have clung to his every word in his final days.
On the other hand, Mark 14:50 tells us that all the disciples left Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Look with me at what God says about you in the Holy Qur'an:
(((82. You will find the most hostile towards the believers to be the Jews and those who associate. And you will find the nearest in affection towards the believers to be those who say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and pastors, and they are not arrogant.
83. And when they hear what was revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears, because of the truth they recognize. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so count us among the witnesses.”."
Now if jesus did not die in Jerusalem.....the roman didn't know, the scribes and pharisees didn't know, the people didn't know... then after 600yeaes + in the desert of arabia , Qutham said he didn't die
Please please who died? Use the Quran to tell us who died? Because someone died that night if it is not yasua al massih who DIED?
eninn: Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) was the last prophet sent by Allah.
To understand why he was the last messenger, we need to first understand what exactly was the purpose behind sending any prophets by Allah.
1) The prophets, Jesus, Moses, Noah, Muhammad and the other prophets of Allah (peace be upon them all) were all sent with a single mission. The Mission was to remind the people of the reality of afterlife, to tell them about Allah, enjoin them to do good and teach them the religion of Allah.
2) Allah says, that a prophet was sent to every tribe/people and 5 books were revealed upon the prophets. However the books as we know were either fabricated or lost later on after the prophets. (eg: the Bible has no single version)
Now the point to note is that uptill now Allah says that each prophet was send to his or her own people.
3) Allah says, that Prophet Muhammad was sent as a messenger to the whole of mankind and jinnkind. Allah communicated the Quran through him to us.
NOW COMES THE ANSWER...
Prophet Muhammad taught the people everything about Islam all its fundamentals, rights, rites, salaah, etiquettes and other frameworks. Allah through Prophet Muhammad, revealed the Quran as the guidance for all men and Jinn.
PLUS, Allah himself has vouched that the Quran will be preserved till the end of time (judgement day)
NOW THE EXPLANATION:
Earlier all the prophets except Prophet Muhammad were sent mainly to their own people (Moses to people of Israel, etc). PLUS the instructions/books given to them were after their death either fabricated or lost.
Prophet Muhammad on the other hand was NOT sent to a particular community or nation or a group of people but to humanity at large. Secondly, the message revealed to him in the form of the Quran will be preserved till the end of time as promised by Allah.
Thus, the final reminder and everlasting message has been sent by Allah and Thus, there arise no need for further Prophets or instruction (books) to appear, since we have the final frameworks and instruction with Prophet Muhammad and the Quran.
The message of Islam has spread far and wide across all globe, some people revert to it some avert from it, nonetheless they have heard about it and are aware of Allah as the supreme deity. Whether they choose to accept it or not is their choice and is between them and Allah.
Thus to CONCLUDE, since all the conditions for sending the prophets have been fulfilled and the Quran will last till the end of time (judgement day).
Speaking from common sense of the above explanation there arises no need for sending anymore Prophets, they will have no mission left even if they are sent to earth.
The only thing left now is for us to take heed of the message of the QURAN.
Prophet Muhammad (p) was the Last & Final Messenger of Allah who was Sent for the Whole of Humanity
[quote author=mukhtara446 post=65933549]My friend can't a person asked a question, Before i talk to a person about faith i sometimes want to know what they believed in, i simply want to know what Christians believed about Jesus, because iam tired of people who are not Christian telling me what Christians believed in. I just want to understand if you will care to answered. I think Even if i Read the above verses you mention i don't think i will understand what it said properly without a person of knowledge of the book explained it to me.[/q
Please what is your question? And why it is important to you.
TenQ: The day Muslims will discover that there is no coming out from hell fire AND the best deceiver has scammed them!
On that day, Muslims will ask Allah when he comes to them in a shape they know not and say:. Are you TWO Allah? Is the first Allah dead? Then Allah will remove his garment and show them his Shin : and they would be assigned each their endless penis and appropriate brothel.
How do you create a post and didn't tag me
My brother The Lord is opening eyes of people to the lies of centuries...
Even Muslims scholars avoid certain people...and advice others to stay clear
[صبغة الله ومن أحسن من الله صبغة ونحن له عابدون] "[We follow] the coloring of Allah. And who is better than Allah in coloring? And we are worshippers of Him."
3 questions arises from this verse which will rattle your brain and faith
1. Allah has a colour ? What kind of color? The colouring of Allah...is the color black like Africans, white like Europeans or yellow like the Asians or mix, Don't get mad at me , the Quran said so
2. Who is speaking here.... Allah or Muhammed
If you say Allah because the Quran is his word, it means two things Allah is worshipping himself or Allah has another Allah
And we are worshippers of him
If it is Muhammed talking here ...it completely negates the premises that the Quran is the word of Allah...now the words of Muhammed which is a shirk
3. Is this verse is true by showing that Allah has a color and he is worshipping himself or another Allah will you leave Islam... or we can just explain it away as a mistake or lapses( I have 30 verses like this ) that one verse can negate a whole al Quran kareem ? Years of lies and cover ups
Every time Islam Allah muhamed Muslims will make a claim
Ask them for evidence
What you will get is insult, conjectures and lies trying to cover up... infact they will run to the same imaginary corrupt bible to justify or give credence to there innuendos
hakeem77: Ṣeun pls ban this Op or Muslim brother from publishing articles on Islam. He is not contributing to promoting harmony in the family. He is clearly misguided.
SixSeven: It is one of the reasons of getting married, let's not deceive ourselves. It's a licence to f__k and there is endorsement for it. Why do you think sex and finance are the top 2 reasons for divorce aside infidelity? Even the infidelity too is mostly about sex. We are still animals. And marriage is to protect who you have frequent sex with. Otherwise, all of us would have been having sex with whoever we feel like, whenever we feel like and society will be in chaos.
In marriage, anything that comes out of sex does not worry you, you are married. In boyfriend and girlfriend, you will see what happens, dem no de tell you. Marriage is an institution to protect sex and sexual appetite. Argument wey man and woman bring come internet, tell them to have sex and see how they solve their problems.
TenQ: They worship Iblis disguised as an Angel of light. Their job is to market him with more LIES
While growing up and seeking knowledge...I somehow hate the CRUSADERS courtesy of Muslim lies
Till I understood who first started it and thank God those noble men arose.
Now it Is paul the apostle they are attacking
They fought that the first person to destroy 2 kabaas was Qutham a.k.a Muhammad and nowhere was he told by his Allah to destroy it.
The first person to burn the Qur'an was a Muslim caliph Uthman and standardised it hence the Quran of today.. infact the ones burnt contain the divinity of Christ, his death on the cross, blessings and victory of his followers till Christ coming back, Qutham as a false prophet that will be killed by God if he fabricate lies against God, forbidden to attack the Jews and christians who protected him and so on, those vital words were removed and filled with Christain and Jewish apocryphal.
gaskiyamagana: Ask your friend living in London because I may tell you lie. Over there as per spread of Islam he will tell you. Yet, go to Burna Boy Twitter and ask such question. Bible, polluted, diluted, infiltrated, corrupted, adulterated contradictory, inconsistent, incoherent, confusing, mutilated and multiplicated religion book compare to one UNIQUE, UNIVERSAL HOLY BOOK OF ISLAM.
Don't be angry
Let me ask you one more time... give me 1 not 2 not 3 beautiful thing about Islam? Don't panic
Now you jump to another claim
Can you give me one equivocal unambiguous statement in the Quran that the bible is corrupt diluted changed? Just one
Kobojunkie: OK! But if it isn't Allah speaking there, then what was your reason why it couldn't be Mohammad? I read that verse as something someone must have added to the chapter afterwards because it didn't read like something Mohammed would have spoken himself, I mean given the tone set in majority of the verses in the chapter. It read more like a third-party adding a statement or maybe it was his pal Jibril giving his personal input or something. 🤔
Then if we are to go with your narration It creates a big problem 1.The sunnah is that Quran is the word of ALLAH not jibreel or Qutham or anyone... kolework
2.it means the Quran is the word of man or jibreel according to waraqah ....it means it is no more preserved word of Allah but jibreel.
3.that means we can find 30 plus verses of human input in the Quran Allah gave muhamed in his hand
4. That means Islam muhamed alalh has been a lie and a big bang of deception
Christianity Etc › Re: Coloured Allah Has An Allah ? by BlackfireX(op): 11:51am On Apr 06
