You try.
Omo ikare ni mi

Omo Ikare mire

KingOvoramwen1:


Keep dreaming clown..... Go and ask Akoko ppl where they came from lmao.

Even in Ekiti Edo's dey there

I am an Ikare boy and a pure Yoruba. We are from Ife

9jaRealist:

No, it is NOT! Lagos’ GDP is greater than the GDP of the nations of Ghana and Kenya COMBINED!

Meanwhile, a major and relatively wealthy mega city like Jakarta (Indonesia), which is even bigger than Lagos with an estimated 30 million population has NO rail-based mass transit system. In fact, Johannesburg’s Gautrain is actually technically NOT a metro rail system. Nonetheless, Lagos’ recent agreement with France’s Alstom virtually ensures that Lagos will end up with a world-class metro system.

Don't mind those chest beater, they always envy and make a stupid generalization without thinking critically.

Lagos is an overcrowded city because of the influx from erosion ravaging part of Nigeria, most of which are not productive and contribute close to zero in tax. Such a city requires major infrastructure in transportation, mass housing, and security. Lagos is doing well with the little resource it has

ekestic1976:


Why would they be angry about an idea whose architects they are? Are they not the Developers of Lagos who sand-filled the ocean beachline, erected the setbacks at Victoria Island, Ikoyi and the other places? This technology they have transferred to Asia and Latin America. They're so good at this that they don't mind leaving their homeland to erosion, for as the Bible says, Love your neighbour!

Abeg no kill those developer from the erosion capital of Nigeria

StaffofOrayan:
The VERY sad part is some conflate Hausa/Fulani culture with the Arabs they want to be,
They have willingly submitted the custodianship of the religion to the Northerners.
A people who have to score less than you to compete academically is in charge of them spiritually!
It would have been funny if it wan't so close to home.

I don't know why people in this forum are so misinformed that they always project their insecurities over others.
The Hausa are not the custodian of Islam for Yoruba Muslim, in the real world, Yoruba have their clerics, mosque and all other Islamic institution that they control totally. Even in the North, we have our mosque, e listen to our cleric and do our things our way, we are Yoruba first before any of the imported religion that all of you are killing yourselves over.
Yoruba Muslim and Christians are the most liberal set people that you will ever come across, religion is personal to us, we are brothers first before religion

PAGAN9JA:


have you ever heard of a Hausa Sarki or Fula emir call himself Oba of so and so place or igwe or whatever. clearly shows who is the slave.


the slavery also reflects in your given names. ive seen Yorubas with our names but you will never find a Hausa or Fulani with Yoruba first names. only slaves keep the names of their masters.

What do you mean by "our name"?
How is Islamic name your name?
The Hausas borrow those name from. The same source that the Yoruba borrow them from. Islamic names are not Hausa name because Muslim across Africa and world over use those name

Elliot2:
As far as the igbos r held down,the yorubas r happy with whatever the leadership of the north brings. Can u imagine such decayed mentality?

Stop playing the victim card, Igbo have always been a useful ally of the North, they always form an alliance with them. The event of 2015 will be the first time the south-west will be collaborating with the North to show clueless Jonathan the way out

Empiree:
you guys keep talking about slavery but yet you are still under British colonial rule indirectly.

Who told you Muslims in ilorin and Ilorin generally claimed to be under slavery right now?. In this fragile Nigeria, you guys want to compound more problems. Abeg, go and do the fight alone with the Fulani. You need to worry about bigger issues in Nigeria now not this one. We know for sure Yoruba are cowards people. You only get mouth to cause trouble. If war starts now, you gonna back off and betray your fellow Yorubas. And then a total distraction from common problems plaguing the country are ignored. Nigeria is one damn it.

Fix the SW before agitating crap.

Southwest is already fixed, my wife is from Ilorin and goes there every year, the problem with people like you is you fail to read and understand history. History is an important tool that helps to forged one identity and help to project one view about the world.

If Nigeria were to disintegrate today, southwestern Nigeria will be the most developed, the most liberal, the region with the most educated populace, the region with city with the largest economy. Naturally, Kwara will want to be in that type of union, it is a simple economics, the majority of her inhabitant are working in Lagos, the majority of her trade her with other southwestern state tell me how they wouldn't want to be in that time of union.

The reality is Niger Delta oil is the only reason why people like saraki are still pushing that Northern thing and the Fulani tag, without oil money and with true federalism, the Ilorin elites will be begging to be in southwest

Empiree:
Why are you upset though?.

Ilorin being majority Yoruba muslims, and emir who is supposedly fulani is not tyrannical. By revolting a leader in a relatively peaceful land, you are creating anarchy. If emir was tyrannical i can reason with you. But he is not. Since he is not, guess what, your opinion doesn't count. We have islamic injunctions from Quran and sunnah


Qur'an

O you who have believed(muslims), obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result. Q 4:59



Suuna

Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: The Prophet (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, “It is obligatory upon a Muslim to listen (to the ruler) and obey whether he likes it or not, except when he is ordered to do a sinful thing; in such case, there is no obligation to listen or to obey.”
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].


Whether you are muslim or not is not important. Majority of ilorin people are muslims. Hence, they have obligation not to rebel. This doesn't mean they are buttlickers damnit. What you say is irrelevant. Now, look at the second quotation up there which says unless ruler violates rights of God and the people. Emir of Ilorin had never debar people from thier God-given freedom nor is he tyrannical. If he was he would be gone long ago. ilorin is peaceful why would you expect muslims to rebel him for ethical reason?. Guess what, any muslim who participates in that will regret big time. You may not believe in islam but these two quotes up there dont recognize ethnicity or nationality in their context.



Now look at this hadith too


Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, “Hear and obey even if an Abyssinian slave whose head is like a raisin is placed in authority over you.” [Al-Bukhari].



Again, you dont have to believe this because you are not muslim but i am telling you that muslims have obligation. A muslim should not fight a war obase on nationalism or ethnicity. It is a wrong war and you pay the price. You consider Fulani inferior to Yoruba, bcus in your view you are westernized. This last quote up there trashes that. The last quote simply tells you even if a poor inferior person is made a king over you regardless of his background, you should obey him for as long as he obeys God and he is not tyrannical to his people. Please kindly point out evil done by this current Emir of ilorin and let's scrutinize that. Thank you. Now you may wanna bring up Israeli/palestinian as to why we support palestinian who are "in the same situation" like Ilorin. The answer to this is simple. Israel is tyrannical and killing till now. Emir of Ilorin is not doing that.

You can only dream of taking back Ilorin from Fulani for now until Emir transits to a great beyond. Until then, you live on dreamland, buddy

I am a Muslim and I am strongly disappointed that people like you who are working zombies live among us.

There is a clear distinction between religion, ethnicity and political alignment. The Nigeria state configured to give some section of the country upper hand, they have mastered the use of this act to keep the nation poor and backward for years and actions like yours keep them on.

The Emir of Ilorin is a reminder of an epic political mistake by the Yoruba nation, it is a symbol of imperial power in our land, no matter how Yorubanized he might have become he still represent the interest of the Fulani hegemony which is against the interest of the Yoruba nation.

Nationhood transcends against religion that why in the Arabs are very tribal, tribal identity helps you yo build a nation that protects the interest of every member of the nation. My interest can ever be served by a Fulani man just because he is a Muslim, I am Yoruba first before my religion and they also see you first as Yoruba before your religion, that is why violence in the North affect Yoruba Muslim more than their Christian counterparts.

I was born in the North and I have live among our so-called Muslim brother all my life, religion is more like a tool for political controls, the Fulanis knows that they are too few and the only rally factor that they can use to get people power is Islam but when they get that support do they serve the interest of the Muslim Ummah that gave them the power?

What they are interested in is power and they will be comfortable if you become a second-class citizen to them no matter how intelligent or good you are. I will never lose my Yoruba identity for an inferior culture just because I am a Muslim. I am a proud Muslim and a very nationalistic Yoruba, my ancestor got Islam through a different means from the Fulanis, we were a different nation to Northern Nigeria before British brought us together in this fail nation, if my ancestor can fight the Fulanis over the control of our commonwealth, they will be rolling in their grave to see a slave like you defending their oppressor with all the power

prolog2:
WHat I am trying to say is that there is a lot of trash being written here and there and that "reading more" is the dumbest thing you could say. Getting educated is not the same as just "reading". If someone reads a lot but reads only trash, he might think he is educated while he is being brainwashed. You guys all need to get educated and learn how to use your brains !

But from the look of things, I think you are the one that needs to get the much-needed education "Mr master degree holder". Nairaland is a platform where people meet to discuss issues and each of these personalities brings their point to the table, the onus is on you to disagree with a formidable point to counter his points. Making a blanket statement and generalization in a faceless forum about people you know nothing about shows how deluded you are.

prolog2:
Yeah, all the people need to enlighten them are some ignorant folks like you and the guy you are responding to.

I don't really get this poo you typed above, what are you trying to say Mr.?

Nowenuse:


They are just very ignorant.

Yorubas received Islam through Mali hundreds of years before Danfodio.

Hausas also see middlebelt muslims as fake muslims, so yorubas aren't the only ones here.

It is also heavily caused by illiteracy. To the Hausa masses, anyone who doesn't speak Hausa fluently is not a true muslim.

Nupe, Bariba muslim people are under the emirate, but because many of them don't speak Hausa very well or speak Hausa with a heavy yoruba like accent. They are seen as fake muslims.

You are spot on. People need to read more and stop this ignorant mentality given these marauding Fulanis too much credit. Usman dan Fodio Jihad was a palace coupe engineer using religion as a way to gather support for his political ambition and since Islam gives him the perfect platform to protect such power then he uses it to establish a state to have legitimacy over the traditional ruling dynasty. Without religion what legitimacy will the Fulani have over their rulership of the Hausas state?

He never brought Islam to the Yorubas, or help in its spread among the Yoruba nation. Islam came much earlier to the Yoruba nation before Dan Fodio was born

AlBaqir:


# First, politically Sultan is the head of Nigerian Muslims meaning his command is supposed to be followed by all.

# Second, the Islamic council of Muslim Affairs (or whatever they call it) has a Yoruba man as their general secretary while Sultan is the President. There are times in this sighting of moon for the beginning of Ramadan or breaking of fast for Eid, where the Sultan and the secretary has been at loggerheads.

# Third, the team of moon sighting has always comprising many known Yoruba scholars. Sheik Habib Adam is a known figure. This team don't always agree; thereby, atimes, their unresolved issues divide the Muslims whereby northern Muslims will start Ramadan today or break fast today, and their western brothers the following day. The only "western state" that seems to follow the Sultan come rain come shine is Ilorin knowing their Emir to be Fulani.

NB: Why this differences and unresolved issues pertaining to moon sightings? The truth is sometimes, because of Sultanate allegiance to the Saudis, they hook, line and sinker follow the Saudis in declarations. This where sensible scholars usually Yorubas (sheik Habib, Prof. Ishaq Oloyede et al) used to oppose them vigorously. This is an example:
www.nairaland.com/1830905/moon-not-possible-seen-anywhere

The question has always been why should we follow Saudi when there is time and geographical differences between us etc etc.


# Geographically, Northern part of Nigeria is expected to quickly sight the new moon at its tender age; hence, the "dependence" on them to break the news. Yet, like I said earlier there are committee of scholars across Nigeria that oversee such affair.


# The fact however remains that Yoruba don't just follow and will never follow without glaring proof, especially today that technology has helped out.

Perfectly put together. Thank you my brother

FulaniTerrorist:


Yea North East was a stronger empire on its own,

No wonder their boko haram is giving Nigerian army tough time,
No be today dem start

There was nothing like Northeast 200 years ago, what is known as Northeast today was home to more than 100 kingdoms and different ethnic nationalities. The kanuris, which was part of the present day northeast have an empire extending deep into present-day Chad, Northern Cameroon, and Niger. This empire have Islam as a state religion as far back as the 13th century, hundreds of years before dan fodio was born

Firstpage:


You are the foolish one here. Your future and that of your unborn generation has been surrendered to the Fulani and you will remain their slaves forever. People have the right to vote whomever they want in an election. Only fools like you see that as slavery.

If your people voted yar adua in 2007, then you have surrendered your future and that of your unborn children to Fulani already and if you voted Jonathan that's double tragedy for you as you also become slaves to the ijaw and Yoruba.

Ill bread degenerates without brain coming on social media to display foolishness.

Yoruba never had any agreement with Jonathan and I wonder where betrayal comes from.

I don't get their emotional attachment to Jonathan losing an election. They keep singing the same song about betrayer as if their os any agreement between Yoruba man and the supposed other southerners ( Igbos and the ethnic minority from the Niger deltas). We need to set the record straight, Nigeria is a mere geographical entity with a different nation and the Yoruba nation will always protect her interest by forming an alliance with whomever they deem suitable to protect their interest.

The Igbos are our brothers in the same sense that the Hausas, Nupe, and all other ethnic nationality within Nigeria (we are even closer to groups like the Nupe than the so-called brothers from the east)

Ezionye:
Nigeria is too tribalized to present a united front such as that of Iran.

And of course fear of being manhandled with tear gas. Besides what are the effects of previous protests? That of 2 face and Charly boy come to mind.

Smh

You nailed it my sister. The problem with Nigeria is our hugely diverse and competing units.

If a southerner was still the president and all these things are happening, you will see lots of these northern forks that has been silent took to the street to protest.

bkool7:
Iranians are Arabs. They lovedeath.

Nigerians are blacks .We love suffering and smiling while drink Origin

Iranian are Persian and they are not in the middle east, mor like a central Asia nation

kuramial:



I guess you are a village boy, you have never been to anywhere in Nigeria

Don't mind the guy, they are busy spreading hatred and projecting their sense of insecurities upon others.

We just observed our jumuat prayer at Nasfat mosque Minna (a supposed Yoruba mosque), about 50% of the congregations are Northerners (Nupe, gwagi, Fulani, Hausa etc). Islam is a unifying force among Muslim.

NaijaMutant:


where do you live?

I live in the North

NaijaMutant:
Just imagine how tolerant Christ and Christianity is!

A Muslim woman on hijab is allowed to mount the pulpit and handle the microphone to address congregants while a Yoruba Muslim cannot be allowed to lead prayers in any mosque dominated by the Hausa's because they are inferior Muslims and considered to be an abomination to Allah.

Where I live you can lead prayer irrespective of your ethnicity. Stop misleading people with your campaign

rdokoye:


Most wealthy people in Nigeria are Igbo, most Northerners are poor; wealthy Northerners are rare, that is the reality.

Igbo people like money just as much as anyone else. Igbo culture is achievement originated, that's why Igbo people work so hard to fulfil laid out goals; money is simply the reward.

An average Igbo man is a petty trader, an average Northerner and Yoruba man is a beggar; which is better?

I don't know, go to Anambra (where I'm from), there are tons of indigenous company owners there.

Multinationals...you can count on one hand the number of Nigerian multinationals that exist. In most cases, government concessions are required for a company to reach such levels, Igbo people have been kept out of the throes of leadership for 50 years now. Despite that, we still have many large companies that are thriving, despite government harassment *cough *cough Innoson.

Yes, but Igbo people own mobile phone companies, car companies, food companies and the like. We not solely traders...so stop lying to yourself.

My friend, I have been to almost all part Anambra state and I can't see these big companies that you are talking about. Anambra is a very small state that can be fitted comfortably into Kano Municipal or Ibadan city, so, how can you compare such state with a state like Kano state that is 3 times bigger in land mass and population?

An average Yoruba man is an artisan (carpenter, auto mechanics, bricklayer), and an average Hausa man is a farmer, honest laborer, bricklayer, trader etc which is better?

That explains why the internally generated revenue of Kano state is bigger than that of Anambra state

rdokoye:


What's that? Northern logic? LMAO! So because we're more educated that means we have more business people. Do you need an education to go into business? Are Yoruba people not educated? Yes, do they establish businesses as the same rate as Igbo people? No.

The educational level of a group, nation or people has very little to do with their propensity to establish a business; it's more cultural than anything else.

Yes, I know, they make or made textiles; well at least you guys have clothes to wear.

No one hates us, I don't know if you're aware of this (because of your obvious low reading level), but Nigeria and the perception of Nigeria has been shaped primarily by Northerners. The perception of a people, is typically shaped by their country, and the perception of a country is shaped by its leaders. Northerners have led Nigeria the longest, and they're the ones that imparted corruption, political assassinations, and various other vices on the rest of us.

It's comical to say the least, you infer that we're more corrupt than you guys, despite the fact that you guys have received far more money over the past several decades, from government coffers, and more government favouritism and patriotism...in short, the North is the most corrupt part of the country, and it is what makes Nigeria as a whole look hopeless.

We're made of hatred, yet, you're the ones that kill us - what's that, more Northern logic.

If you despise us so much, then campaign for Biafra, stop suffering from cognitive dissonance.

It'll take you guys at least 100 years, to get where Igbo people are today.

How can people you claimed to have a lower educational attainment rate than yours or your ethnic group be in a position to shaping the public perception of your country to hate a supposed more educated and superior group?

The North is bigger, it has more people than easterner Nigeria normally they should have more allocation than the east because they have more challenges due to their size, it is logical if they received more revenue than southeastern states.
With respect to corruption, we can't really say that one ethnic group is more corrupt than others because majority of Nigerians politicians are corrupt irrespective of religion or ethnicity

rdokoye:


What point are you making? That, because Dangote has a lot of money that, what? Northern Nigerians are good at business? Does that make sense to you? The tallest man in the world is Chinese, does that mean Chinese people are generally tall?

Dangote is the EXCEPTION, Northerners are not business-minded people, is that an insult to you?

That said, we were talking about the supposed accommodating nature of your people? Give me an example of this accommodating nature.

You used the word, but have no idea what it means.

Nigeria is generally a poor nation and since a majority of the population resides in what we call Northern Nigeria you should expect to see more poor people from the North and also be prepared to see more wealthy people from the same region.
I don't think Igbos are better in business, I will say they have this mentality of worshiping money and wealth more than all other ethnic groups in Nigeria. an average Igbo man is a petty trader, which is a good survival technique but anything higher than that they don't have the patience to pull it off.

look at startups companies in Nigeria, which ethnic groups dominate the sector?
look at big multinational companies owns by Nigerians, which ethnic groups dominates the sector?
look at the financial sector of the economy, which ethnic group dominates the sector?

Informal buying and selling is only a fragment of the actual business activities in Nigeria

rdokoye:


You're a Northerner I'm assuming, so I'm also going to assume you know very little about business.

All these Igbo people are doing, is filling voids, Northern markets are virtually non-existent due to minimal private sector presence in the region. So Igbo people move in, and sell essentials...you know what that means, right?

Anyone could make money in the North, all it requires is an education, capital and the work ethic. Igbo people remain in the North because they make a ton of money there, not because the people are accommodating.

I honestly do not think you even know what the word means.

For example, an accommodating gesture would be, when Obiano set up a commission for conflicts between Fulani Herdsman and Igbo people, in his state. Compensating both parties when property and/or live stock are harmed.

Give me an example of such gestures in the North.

This is a lazy stereotype. To begin with, a majority of the big-time businessmen in Kano are of Hausas ethnicity the same way a majority of big-time businessmen in Onitsha are Igbos or those in Ibadan are Yorubas. it is natural for people from a particular locality to dominate the economic activities of such locality

Igbos and all immigrant world over always move to a better society where there are opportunities not available in their old location or homeland, that explain the reasons behind Igbo migration to Kano state, it means Kano is doing well economically, it means Kano has the opportunities not available in their homeland or previous location. All these points to a prosperous kano, with a very healthy economic and very accommodative native, that warmly welcome economic refuge from the east.


You are not doing any Kano native a favor by moving your retailing outlet to their region, in fact, you are systematically stealing from them and repatriating such back home to build your mansion in your village, income that you didn't pay a kobo in tax for. You can easily be replaced by the indigenous population because buying and selling is not rocket science