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NairalandEFCC1:
What of Seun, halfricanadian, Explorers, ishilove, fynestboi, Dominique, tosyne2much, farano, actually, it's better if you had done this section by section

Explorers:
12. Terry Fox Ran Across Canada While Fighting Cancer (and Without a Leg).



In 1977, at the age of 19, he had his right leg amputated after a diagnosis of osteosarcoma. Three years later, after being angered at how little money was dedicated to cancer research, he decided he wanted to Run across Canada in an effort to increase cancer awareness. Dubbed the Marathon of Hope, Fox started in St. Johns, Newfoundland and planned out a route across the country that would take him to Victoria, British Columbia. He began his journey with little fanfare, but by the time he reached Ontario he had become a national star, with over 1000 corporations pledging 2$ per mile. He met then Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau along his route, as well as the likes of Hockey Hall of Famer Bobby Orr. As Terry approached Thunder Bay, he suffered an intense bout of coughing and severe pains in his chest. He was immediately taken to the nearest hospital where it was discovered that his cancer had returned and had spread tohis lungs. A tearful press conference brought his cross Canada journey to an end after 143 days and 5,373km. Fox hoped that he would one day get to finish what he started but sadly passed away on June 28, 1981. Terry’s plight received support and prayers from Pope John Paul II, and inspired Rod Stewart to write the song “Never Give Up on a Dream” in his honour.

Since his death, the Marathon of Hope has turned into a yearly event in over 60 countries and is now the largest one-day cancer fundraiser in the world. To date, over $500,000,000 has been raised in Terry’s name.

Adudavidlee:
Adam and Eve gave birth to Cain, Abel and Seth.

Cain killed Abel.

My question is; "how did Cain and Seth bear children knowing fully well that they are male species".

dankol:
Thanks for the reply visky, like you have pointed out, its to strengthen those who would be weaken by the above facts laid bare. But frankly, you did not do justice the post, you infact validated it with your unverifiable claims of priviledges except as proclaimed in the bible with no physical prove of such evidence.
i would have replied you extensively but it would yield nothing. You will never see things logically untill you remove that religious glasses. BUT THEN, GET READY TO WRITE MORE REBRUTTALS

So I gave up on Christianity. It was not easy dear. Its like separating a child from his mother

I recall, in my room, there were two papas of student fellowships, I tackled them to a standstill that one of them avoids me like a plague till today. The other is too matured to be childish, He told me, he would pray for me to come back to God, I told him, “better still, tell God to come to me”. It got to a point that, one day, a roommate of mine, pleaded with me to stop the argument because, it is affecting him seriously, he said “dankol!, anytime I tried to pray, I begin to wonder, is God really up there listening to me ….just because of you. Please help me. I don’t want any of these discussions again”. I was moved, I never intended to shake anyone’s faith but to make you curious and inquisitive about what you believe. I promised not to talk about it anymore. But within me, I feel so much freedom and ability to think clearly and logically without any religious influence.

My story may not be intriguing as expected but I myself only knew what I went through all in the name of serving God. I do not intend to convert anyone as no one converted me. I came to that self-realization after so much struggle.

Below is a few food for thought on some issues on religion.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR RELIGIONISTS
What makes a Christian FEEL better than non-Christian

One day, I was in deep thought, I began to think, “what benefit do I get from being a Christian that a non-Christian do not get, moreso, there are Christians like me, who do not even have what I have, there are Christians who do have far more than I do have. Yet there are unbelievers on both sides too. So I think much deeper, there must be something that makes me different from an unbeliever”
I exclaimed, I have peace of mind! then I recall, I do get worried once in a while and even often.
I recall also, I have good health, then I remember, I have good healthy habit, live in a peaceful environment pretty much devoid of air pollution and what have coupled coupled with other physical factors.
Another came to my mind, You have sound mind.. so do many other unbelievers
Another came, Jesus has saved you, redeemed you to himself.. to become what? Ok sons and daughters of God, So if I am a son of God, then, I should not be experiencing certain difficulty. If he became poor, so I might be rich, I do not have to ration my daily meal from three to two and sometimes one.
My problem is not the challenges I was facing as a Christian perhaps, it is accounted for in the scripture, Jesus did not promise a problem free life, infact he emphasized on himself, giving Christians a load to carry. Matthew 11:29-30 “… For my yoke is light and my burden is easy”. So by conventional interpretation, it has to do with challenges of life. Fine. But looking at life generally, there is virtually no physical difference between a Christian and a non-Christian. What do I mean?
1. Christians fall sick same as non-Christians
2. They die by all means possible, stray bullet, sickness, earthquake, war, fire, amongst others; same as unbelievers
3. They experience failure at one or two point in time in life ; same as unbelievers
4. Poverty, wealth , famine, name it, both Christians and non-Christians do enjoy their fair share of it.
SO, WHY DO I THINK AM BETTER THAN OTHERS WHO DO NOT SHARE IN MY FAITH? I almost gave up in my thought to differentiate why I am a better person by virtue of my religion to another until I remember this; Christianity is about a heavenly race. Paul said, “I have finished the race….” -2Timothy 4:7. Waoooo, I was happy to have seen one. Atleast if I am suffering on earth, I have hope of heaven. Paul further said in 1 Cor 15:19 “If in this life only we have hope in Christ, WE ARE OF ALL MEN MOST MISERABLE”. That statement is an emphatical statement of certainty, that, Paul is so sure of a kingdom beyond this world which is of an immerse hope. Here lies my question
How sure was Paul to have made such emphatic statement without any evidence to back it up? Is it because he is an apostle, sorry, even apostles can tell lies that is why even Paul himself said in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good”.

Now, the various versions of heaven-visitors (near death experiences) made issues worse for me. Wait, Jesus cannot take sis. Janet to see a wailing Mary- crying to Janet to tell Catholics to stop praying to her and yet bro john did not see such. Infact both of them saw a different entrance into heaven and met different kinds of Jesus. So, I hastily concluded that, ok, fine, heaven exist and it is meant for Christians.
One day, I saw a Christian magazine at a newspaper stand, front page had an info on an interview to another heaven visitor whom Jesus told that, in the whole of Nigeria, about 32 Christians will make heaven as at that point in time. I was shocked to the bone marrow. I left that place thinking, wait, Pastors in Nigeria alone go reach like half a million in Nigeria, that’s even too much, what of bishops, they are sure over 100 in Nigeria. So who would the 32 Christians be? Now, if about 50% of Nigeria’s population are professing Christians, and going by that revelation, 32 will make heaven, it is an absolute waste of years, time, resources to even try being a Christian.

Then, something else poped up in my mind, there is a difference between being a Christian and being a Christ-follower. Anyone can be a Christian, bear Christian names but only one that does what Jesus wants done is indeed a Christian. Fine, lets define what Jesus wants done:
1. Help the sick
2. Feed the needy
3. Preach the gospel
4. Pray through him to God
5. Study the scripture to grow in faith
6. Obey authorities over you
7. Be honest, diligent and truthful
8. Forsake not the gathering of the brethren
9. Chief of it all, is believe in him as the messiah, he died for your sins and he is your salviou
Now, permit me to summarize all the above and as many you know that was not mentioned into two
1. FAITH
2. 2. WORK. I was weak and so I had more reasons to quit
HEAVEN IS A FAIRY TALE, HELL IS NOT ONLY A FAIRY TALE BUT A FAIRY TOOL TO SCARE YOU TOWARDS HEAVEN. I WOULD LIVE THIS LIFE AM CONSCIOUS ABOUT, WELL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY

dankol:
Seriously, i did not advertise for help... you do not have to spell it out before hatred can be exhibited.. Your refusal to recognize them is a form of discrimination.. and a form of hatred. You dont have to agree with me.. even your mother body CAN refuse to admit them.. Enjoy

snoopdg:
I hail this dude,

I wanted to do same but I yielded to the temptation.


Na me representing NCA, Ibadan south west LG, ring road Ibadan.

Deaths sure for life, so if a Jew chooses to die this way, so be it.

dankol:
You are just proving the point am gona make soon about the so called body of christ. Lol so Olumba is not a recognized autonomous branch of the Christian Church.Wao.. am not surprised, the hatred within is so deep with the body of christ. the question is, why should a group of people set themselves aside from others to sing and dance, if they do not have a new ideology? well,i guess you should help me define Denomination then..
perhaps you dnt know, the bible is a tool used to validate islam, the talmud is a tool used to validate the bible, one preceeds the other. So if you see islam as a break away faction.. i respect that view.Afterall, jesus was even mentioned more than mohammed in the Quran.

Sorry, i prefer to use the word brand because in the business world, that what is done to remain relevant or break into the market. you need to have a unique brand. So i use the word on purpose. Sorry, am not a prophet, i only make educated guesses. But then why should i guess when you are right here to answer.

dankol:
CHAPTER FIFTEEN
PART TWO CONTINUM
I faced the choir squarely and began some reformations. There were a lot of factions in the choir. I ensured I killed the factions and promote love through weekly visitation to member houses and things improved. But something was missing. The church has developed an i-don’t-care attitude towards her needy members and infact she is milking them of the little they have. 90% of the choir consist of students seriously having one or two challenges ranging from finance to in-house issues but what do we hear every Sunday, if it is not tithe, it is seed sowing, or covenant seed, or giving to God. No practicality of what is being preached.

There was this quiet lady who was consistent in church, barely comes late to church. Though I noticed her but I was in my own world too anyway but I do know that’s going on around me. Suddenly, we no longer see her for over a month. I began to make enquiry. Lo and behold! No one in the church knew where she lives. I was furious. I mean, not one soul has an idea. Something then struck me, that even I, myself, since I came to the church, no one knows where I live, yea though in the hostel but no one knows the room nor have even attempt visiting me.

I began to make enquiry about her, I got no concrete information but it was confirmed, she was severely sick and out of town for treatment. Also it came to my notice that, she had been meeting with the pastor for prayers over her sickness but nothing happened until it became severe and her parents took her somewhere unknown to get cure for her. So God cannot even have pity on his faithfuls. Because since 2010, I have not had any reason to use major drugs- let me clarify what I mean by major drugs, I mean, tablets and what have you. I take fruits instead. I do fall sick but I do not use drugs before I get well. In two-three days, I would be just fine.

Then, I used to think, it is divine health- My dear, it is not divine health, it is a function of healthy habits, strong immune system amongst other things. That reminds me of the day I engaged a brother in church about the dogma of divine health. It was not funny when he resorted to blind belief in it. I told him, I am not trying to convince him, I am only refuting him. My take on divine health is this: if you say you have divine health, the questions you need to answer are as follows;

1. Have you ever fallen sick before no matter how minute since you are in Christ? -afterall, only faithful Christians enjoy divine health. I know the answer is NO. Then, it is flawed because, one having divine health actually implies, you can’t be ill since you are divine health-wise. Thus when, you fall sick, or feel depressed, or feel sad, or feel emotional, all are symptoms of several different kind of unhealthiness. And I am 100% sure, at one time or the other, we have and we still do feel these things. So, sorry, you do not have divine health. Even the major promoter of that dogma almost lost his wife some years ago- (funny isn’t it)-Divine health indeed! Mind you, there is nothing like divine healing too cos in the first place, anything divine ought not to be subjected to anything un-divine such as sickness. So, the word “divine” negates and implicates the healing. Healing has to do with restoration to good health (which ought to be divine) meaning there is a deviation from the divine nature. And all things being equal, it is not possible. Like I said, earlier, there is nothing divine about health.

2. Let’s assume there is divine health, all things being equal, all faithful Christians should exhibit it as a natural inheritance. Please, don’t tell me you have to invoke/command/pray it from the word of God and whatever your faith-healing pastor has brain-washed you with because, you did not invoke/command/pray puberty, growth and many other natural things that happens to us. Why should divine health be exceptional amongst other vital things we need.[

dankol:
WAIT ... ARE YOU SAYING, THERE ARE NO DENOMINATIONS OR THERE ARE NOT AS MUCH AS CLAIMED? THAT WILL HELP ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION EFFECTIVELY.
for q1: DO YOU BELIEVE IN OLUMBA OLUMBA AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF GOD TO MANKIND? What do you think of Mormons? Do you believe they know, worship or even believe in what you believe as Christians all of you are as a whole.. infact do you acknowledge that they are christians? if you dont mind, i would like to know the brand of christianity you belong to? it will help me hit the nail on the head better. thanks

dankol:
Q1: Thats the point, just as they lost their relevance like child's play same is happening to christianity
Q2: Bro, sorry to say this, Jesus was actually a made-up historical figure, a compilation of all the aforementioned. There is no record of his existence outside the bible by people of his own time.. if you got one, pls pop it up.. i would gladly want to read such ancient no-biblical reference
Q3: that is the difference between an organized religion riding on political wings and a casual traditional belief just like that.

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER FIFTEEN
PART THREE (CONCLUSION)
In the meantime, my doubt about the church/religion was on the high alert not even when I met more radical Christians in the hostel. My room was like the centre of religious arguments. It was interesting and eye-opening. Until, one day, a radical friend of mine debunked speaking in tongues. I do speak in tongues even for long but not publicly. I read through that stuff, I was like wait, “is there anything in Christianity that has not been debunked or challenged to a reasonable conclusion”. There and there, I told myself, I am gona dig right to the foundation of Christianity. I want to get my facts straight, when I stand up to tell someone, am a believer in Christ and I can defend it with my breath. My dear, I found the opposite, one basic thing Christians use to boast about is about the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus. I found out, same similar story holds true for some other deities long before him. Coupled with serious historical imbalances in the scripture. I was so so disappointed.

Please read this exert from the book “The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors”
http://infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/address.html
The following propositions (fatal to your claims for Christianity) are established beyond confutation by the historical facts cited in this work, viz: --
1. There were many cases of the miraculous birth of Gods reported in history before the case of Jesus Christ.
2. Also many other cases of Gods being born of virgin mothers.
3. Many of these Gods, like Christ, were (reputedly) born on the 25th of December.
4. Their advent into the world, like that of Jesus Christ, is in many cases claimed to have been foretold by "inspired prophets."
5. Stars figured at the birth of several of them, as in the case of Christ.
6. Also angels, shepherds, and magi, or "wise men."
7. Many of them, like Christ, were claimed to be of royal or princely descent.
8. Their lives, like his, were also threatened in infancy by the ruler of the country.
9. Several of them, like him, gave early proof of divinity.
10. And, like him, retired from the world and fasted.
11. Also, like him, declared, "My kingdom is not of this world."
12. Some of them preached a spiritual religion, too, like his.
13. And were "anointed with oil," like him.
14. Many of them, like him, were "crucified for the sins of the world."
15. And after three days' interment "rose from the dead."
16. And, finally, like him, are reported as ascending back to heaven.
17. The same violent convulsions of nature at the crucifixion of several are reported.
18. They were nearly all called "Saviors," "Son of God." "Messiah," "Redeemer," "Lord," &c.
19. Each one was the second member of the trinity of "Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
20. The doctrines of "Original Sin," "Fall of Man," "The Atonement," "The Trinity," "The Word," "Forgiveness," "An Angry God." "Future Endless Punishment," etc., etc. (see the author's "Biography of Satan," were a part of the religion of each of these sin-atoning Gods, as found set forth in several oriental bibles and holy books," similar in character and spirit to the Christian's bible, and written, like it, by "inspired and holy men" before the time of either Christ or Moses (before Moses, in some cases, at least). All these doctrines and declarations, and many others not here enumerated, the historical citations of this work abundantly prove, were taught in various oriental heathen nations centuries before the birth of Christ, or before Christianity, as a religion, was known in the world.
Will you, then, after learning these facts, longer dare assert that Christianity is of divine emanation, or claim a special divine paternity for its author. Only the priest, who loves his salary more than the cause of truth (and I fear this class are numerous,) or who is deplorably ignorant of history will have the effrontery or audacity to do so. For the historical facts herein set forth as clearly prove such assumptions to be false, as figures can demonstrate the truth of any mathematical problem. And no logic can overthrow, and no sophistry can set aside these facts.[/b]

dankol:
That one is not as annoying for me as the bible-the purified word of God, infact purified seven times according to psalms. Today, i no longer bother my head, why there is so much denominations.. its a function of how you can interprete the bible to suit you.. Imagine christianity alone having over 10,000 denominations with each claiming to be the only way to Jesus. Let me stop there.. you will get the rest in chapter sixteen.. watchout for THE MULTIVARIATE BODY OF CHRIST