₦airaland Forum

Omooba77:
MURIC is not aware of what is going in Kaduna.....

I don't blame him considering the media doesn't do a good job reporting key facts. None of the talking heads even bothered to do the math on the crime rate. They haven’t even asked where is the crime data all these years. South Africa keeps track of theirs and it would be noticed by citizens if they suddenly stopped unlike in Nigeria.

slimfit1:
Whoever is close to this man, tell him to keep quiet. Even Buhari kept quiet has his people keep on killing. Dialogue with them, they know you, you don't know them.

Lol you think that makes sense when crime rate is steady increasing? You guys have weird logic. Why do you guys insist on coddling criminals. My only response to him is back up his tough talk. Its not just about cutting promos like the Rock on WWF.

Baileydice:
Cool-cats who are being mistaken for troublesome Nigeriens, Chadians, Malians e.t.c.

Lol bokogerians always blaming foreigners. When ever these criminals are arrested they're Nigerians. You have to search hard to find reports of foreigners arrested or deported.

Kzinne:
rubbish

Lol a lazy criticism with no counter arguments.

simpleseyi:
Useless Buhari is full of illegality

What did he do illegally recently?

Lol can you explain why Buhari stop tracking the crime rate. We know this guy is plain old liar. Just look at Kaduna who's crime rate increased 20% from last year by El Rufis own admission. Why do we see a rampant increase increase instead of a decrease in crime if it's the previous administrations fault.

Blue3k:
Kaduna crime stats:

Est. 8.9 million population according to Wikipedia.

1192 homicides ~ 13.39 homicides per 100k
The number Homicides increased by 245 which is a 20.55% increase.
3,348 kidnappings ~ 37.62 kidnappings per 100k
891 assaults (injuries) ~ 10.01 assaults per 100k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6GFjwF_QQ

Blue3k:
The issue is even worse you consider the published crime stats are always lazily done. The stats only report aggregate crimes instead of doing it by per capita basis. Doing it this way doesn't factor in population which why crime stats are reported on per 100k basis. The last measure the NBS could improve is actually reported victimization rates by tribe, perpetrator by tribe, and if they're foreigners. Reporting race is pretty common in a lot of countries but since 99.9 of Nigerians are same race so that's pointless.

grandstar:
Did the president forgive based on principle or for some political or personal leverage?

His term comes to a screeching halt next year May 28, 2023. He has made many enemies who would be screaming blood. He does not strike me as a man who would fear prosecution.

However, I suspect he might be protecting his family. The wife's 50th Dubai birthday is the type of excesses and fruit of corruption he vowed to fight.

Lol it seems you're forming a hypothesis. I really don't understand why decided to pardon him instead of Commuting his sentence. There's no good reason to give the rouge a clean record. If this was America I'd just assume someone made agenerous donation to his charity or campaign.

My primary issue is the states not handling these corruption cases and Nigerians giving them 101 excuses for them not doing so. It should be obvious to anyone paying attention to faux war on corruption was only for the gullible. The police under his direct control extort drivers at checkpoints. If these check points were so useful northern leaders would be begging for more.

Crizzycross:
I'm not sure buhari has regards for the principles of the rule of law. He does whatever he likes.

Maybe he doesn't but this isn't an example. Fact is he had right to release corrupt individual. The fact he granted the theif a pardon instead of Commuting his sentence exposes him. Anyway if the state prosecuted him the governors would have to pardon him. Sadly the states aren't interested in solving their own problems like they are interested in getting more money. Even the citizens getting fleeced are giving the local & states representatives 101 excuses for failure.

kingsman66:
Try and read this piece is still in FP.

I cite the constitution then you cite Wike to justify lying weird.

ivolt:
You are asking the state to prosecute the accuse base on laws that doesn't exist yet and using resources that is not yet available.

Also, the federal police handles investigation and prosecution for criminal case.

Any changes to state's law now will only apply to future offenders.

Not going back and forth on resources. State prosecutors work with federal government all the time this wouldn't be different. Your point about it being an ex post facto law is good one I'd have think about. Criminal Misappropriation and Criminal Breach of Trust are in the penal code so the laws exist and are the similar to what he was already convicted of. If they need to be updated that's fine. I dont think that would subject it to being ex post facto.

Mynd44:
And before you quote the constitution and mention section. 175, remember some of us actually read the constitution and we can quote it, we also have a copies of it. Check the pictures below for you to know that even under the constitution, the resident can never pardon anyone by himself meaning that Jolly Nyame's pardon was done by everyone not only Buhari.

Lol dont make empty threads either enforce the rule be quiet. The council only exist as advisors they aren't his bosses that order him to around. At the end of the day he did pardon him and if he disagreed he simply wouldn't. Your arguement is simply deflection.

BabaJoe001:
So osinbajo should resign too?

VP is an elected position.

kingsman66:
Please let me ask you , who is the chief custodian of this great con3?. Any law made by the "house" or red chamber without the president signature is void and empty. Learn this today my friend they president has the right to pardon any law breaker with veto power authority...... Let me stop here for now anyways happy Easter bro

You can repeat a lie all you want the constitution is the law of the land and has debunked your nonsense. You're wrong again a presidential veto overide can be done by NASS with 2/3 majority in both houses. This happened in 2000 resulting in NDDC act becoming law. This is basic civics and recent history but you'd rather worship the office of the presidency during Easter.

These football hooligans are sore losers. They're acting like euro trash.

kingsman66:
The president federal Republic of Nigeria has the fundamental right to grant presidential pardon to any state convicted criminal freedom.....

Not at all read the constitution.

Section 175 of the Constitution on prerogative of mercy provides that: ” (1) the President may- (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions

Mooh247:
Yes the President has prerogative of mercy on all criminals under his Sovereignty

Facts.

ivolt:
Assuming they have the will, no Nigerian state currently has the resources to prosecute a financial crime against a political bigwig. How would they even get the accused bank records both local and foreign?
Who would handle the investigation? Federal police?

State prosecutors do just like federal prosecutors used police evidence. I dont see the resources as an issue. The only argument I can partially agree with law aspect but that easily solved by passing a law if current one fail. All that solution does is lead to another excuse to why the federal government need to act for them.

ETHICALLYrlght:
You know where to find the law, you've found the law but it seems as though you don't understand the law.

Also, pardon has the same effect as previous conviction regarding the rule against double jeopardy. A person who is pardoned cannot be tried for the same offence he was pardoned for.

Your initial claim is wrong. I do know where it came from and said Buhari was in his right. You got lazy half way through reading and started making a strawman argument.

I disagree with that arguement this amount to double jeaprody considering it not the same law or even tier of government convicting him. Dual sovereignty is the reason they can both protective. As we read seen in the president cab not pardon anyone for a state crime anyway so the arguement doesn't even make sense.

Section 175 of the Constitution on prerogative of mercy provides that: ” (1) the President may- (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions

ivolt:
Can you cite what state law the ex-governors broke?

Are you asking me to cite the state law? I already cited the federal law he was convicted on. I don't know taraba law but I doubt what he did was legal.

NwaNimo1:
Buhari does what he likes...even convicted terrorists are pardoned by the tyrant.

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So what stopping any state from handling the prosecutuons themselves? Only the gullible or the foolish thought Buhari was going to handle these issues. I just find it weird Falana is saying the more criminals should be pardoned instead telling states to handle business.

The President shouldn't have the power to pardon criminals for state level crimes. Just like the Governors shouldn't be able pardon federal criminals. Since Nigeria is federal republic powers are divided between different tiers of government with some overlap. In the case of pardons their shouldn't be since presidential pardons only apply to laws created by National Assembly.

Section 175 of the Constitution on prerogative of mercy provides that: ” (1) the President may- (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions; (b) grant to any person a respite, either for an indefinite or for a specified period, of the execution of any punishment imposed on that person for such an offence, (c) substitute a less severe form of punishment for any punishment imposed on that person for such an offence; or (d) remit the whole or any part of any punishment imposed on that person for such an offence or of any penalty or forfeiture otherwise due to the State on account of such an offence.

Buhari has recently pardoned former governor of Taraba Rev Jolly Nyame. He was convicted by the EFCC for  criminal breach of trust, misappropriation, gratification and obtaining valuable public properties without consideration. Legally Buhari is in his right pardon this criminal. That said there's nothing stopping the State government bringing fresh charges. This wouldn't be double jeaprody because its a different tier of government convicting him.

The problem with Nigerians is they want federal solutions to local issues. Why didn't the state prosecute this crook and lock him away? If the people of Taraba are offended by this pardon its not too late to prosecute him using the EFCC play book. The Penal code Section 308 and 309 cover criminal misappropriation. Section 312 covers criminal breach of trust. The state should do what ever is necessary to achieve this outcome.

Front page: Lalasticlala Mynd44

Lol its never his fault.

SensualMan1:
Fool. Revitalise and fund existing universities u already own. Government has no business being in business.

Once again, this Buhari is a fool.

Lol did you even read the article? What do you have against private universities? I do agree the federal government should get out the education business though.

Kaduna has been dangerous for a long time. The train bombing just brought it to the forefront of people mind. If Nigerian media wasn't garbage they could show you guys with numbers how bad its getting. They don't even need to editorialize the story the facts are crazy on their own.

Front page: Lalasticlala Mynd44

Lol after all the noise the prosecutors fail again.

NwaNimo1:
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....Looticians looted the money that should have been invested

Disappointed*

SmartPolician:
Thank God no man will allow simps like you make such useless laws.

Too many mumu simps. If you Ask which female they voted for or who stopped them from contesting you'll be met with silence. They just hate losing and want quota seats. Theyre just like the idiots that want more youth in positions then vote in their great grand father for another term.

Lol foolish talk by wike. Everyone has the right to compete under the same rules. There's no reasonable guarantee of winning on equal percentage. This would be quota appointments which alot of complain about.

garfield1:
The bill is dead already. it seems the nass do not really understand the import of vat

Ok your position changed on that specific point. State legislatures won't ratify such a bill in your opinion.

I remember you telling me if NASS passes this sort of bill the state assemblies will follow along. Do you still believe this to be the case?

garfield1:
True.if it passes through the nass,it will pass through the states

blackpanda:
The Governors will end up rejecting it. Especially as elections are close

Governors don't vote. If your state legislature fails you blame them. They aren't slaves.

blackpanda:
The Governors will end up rejecting it. Especially as elections are close

Governors don't vote. If the legislature fails you blame them..

Lol everyone says they didn't benefit but they can't tell you why they didn't benefit. If resources control doesn't grant individuals ownership of mineral rights its waste of time.

Chapter IV Fundamental Rights

44 (3) Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section, the entire property in and control of all minerals, mineral oils and natural gas in under or upon any land in Nigeria or in, under or upon the territorial waters and the Exclusive Economic Zone of Nigeria shall vest in the Government of the Federation and shall be managed in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.

Exclusive Legislative List:

39. Mines and minerals, including oil fields, oil mining, geological surveys and natural gas.

Rugaria:
Country like Nigeria badly needs to have something like aljazeera or press TV.
You need to tell your own tales from your own perspectives. Unfortunately, politicians here don't seem to understand how important this is. Even When Buhari muted the idea of rejuvenating the NTA, everyone knew it was another conduit pipe for siphoning money so the idea was shot down..

Lol NTA sucks and cares to watch or post their content for a reason. They dont cover anything of interest foreign or domesticly. The BBC eye documentaries are very popular because it covers issues people actually care about from drug abuse to pervert professors. Nigeria could do these sort if investigations in the UK highlighting their issues like Muslim rape gangs to silencing people like Tommy Robinson for exposing such issues.

Investigative:
Let me help you again
If youtube was the sole source of your western media news
Then they indoctrinated you with their lies and propaganda enough to spew such lies

No that's false there's independent commentators and other news organizations who don't spew propaganda. Just because you can't do any independent research doesn't mean others can't. Just look at how you claimed Africans can't access foreign media like you still live in 1980s.