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0ubenji:
God allowed the evil that befell Adam take place coz of Love, even tho he saw it from the start
..no be so?
Search nairaland for a thread on freewill..I contributed actively in dat thread alongside others..
You'll learn something new..
DAts if u're ready to do away with bigotry

Lennycool:
Buddhism is an atheistic religion since it has no God, but you can worship gods if you please to, it isn't against that, you can even worship Yahweh and be Buddhist.

hopefulLandlord:
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tell me the names of the "Marine god(s)" all Buddhists worship

0ubenji:
but in a case where it is not?

Out of love baa?

0ubenji:
another suicidal expression yet again..u really need to sharpen ur debating skills..

An individual gets into a contest with a motive to impress either the spectators or the opponent.

But, u said God was not trying to impress anyone in job's case, that God doesn't impress or had in mind to do dat.
Nau, u acknowledge it was a contest?
So why do u think God got into a contest with an idiot like Satan, if not to impress?
Someone he created himself.

U cnt even define ur position bro..lolz
I keep swaying u back and forth

0ubenji:
Satan rulership of this world is what we see today in form of wars,Chaos,famine,corruption,genocide,earthquakes,injustice,poverty,drought,disasters,racism,tribalism,rape,incest,hurricanes,e.t.c

It was imperative for God to allow all this to happen inorder to unreval the true nature of Satan and to show the entire Universe what the Universe will be like,when things are done outside his divinelaws,

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In Conclusion
God has allowed all this to happen out of his loving and just nature,so that all his creations can appreciate his gift of freewill.
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All above are in ur very own words. Culled from ur oxymoronic epistle..

You're one easy man to debate with I must confess..

analice107:
This could the reason Muslims are fighting very hard to take over Europe thinking with that, they would've taken over what belongs to the Jews.

The Problem with the Muslims is that, they had a prophet without any viable prophecy, so they don't give heed to them.


PLS SOMEONE SHD PLS TELL THE MUSLIMS TO STOP THEMSELVES BEFORE THEY DESTROY THEMSELVES.

0ubenji:
U liken a debate to a torturous experience of leprosy and almost loss of life?
U're saying now that God and devil had a contest of loyalty of servants and Job was the representative?
Ur analogies are weak plz.
I,however, recall u saying God can speak for himself..
If I'm to take ur analogy literally, So why is job involved as a Debate representative between Himself and Satan.

0ubenji:
proclaiming the word of God erroneously with irreconcilable and contradictory expressions in your statements can never be what God sent u. Juz coz u keep rendering a barrage of bible verses with ur proclamations doesn't make u Godsent or spirit filled.
always try to quote appropriate bible verses strictly or atleast loosely in the context of what u assert. How does this apply to ur debate of your allusion of God's permission of evil upon us to Love?
This verse u quoted is meant to defend urself against adversaries who know not Christ in u. Seein you undergo difficult situations, yet with hope.

Peter instructs us to be ready to answer the question our life should inspire: "How can you be so hopeful in such difficult circumstances?"

Peter anticipates people will become curious. Hopefulness and joy are starkly different from the normal human response to suffering. So much so that people will be eager to understand it. What will we say when they ask? We must be prepared to give our defense, to make the case for faith in Christ. We need to reject the cultural pressure to keep our beliefs to ourselves. Instead, believers should openly share the good news of redemption through faith in Christ.

This verse u rendered was grossly misapplied

good, this applies to the Case of Job suffering for well doing as recorded in the bible. This means u've explicitly acknowledged suffering in christendom. Now, you shifted to the will of God being so, no longer, God allowing it out of love and just nature as u put earlier. I bet You'll attempt to entwine both, saying God's will is love always.
Yea, u right, this means it's his wish to do so if countless number of children and mothers suffer for nothing, worldwide. No food to eat or places to live. Some even die In their situation. Humanity(irrespective of their religion factions or belief system) do d best they can to help this ppl suffering for either well-doing or evil-doing which nobody but God knws, as far as we'd like to bliv it's his will.
But why da heck will u allude this totally to God's love and Just nature? This is pure fanatic Christianity.
U find it easy to spill these Ignorant phrases probably coz u find urself In a better standard of life compared to those undergoing the real hellish circumstances of life that u use as basis for ur faith.

enhancement can only apply to a preexisting entity. How bou someone who doesn't even knw the Christian faith, struggling to survive, children that have known suffering all their lives, ppl who wake up not knowing if they'll live thru dat day. I guess their inexplicable suffering is to enhance a faith that wasn't there in d first place?
I guess u've lived all ur life in d corners of a church. You don't read news, goto UNICEF, WHO, USAID websites and see suffering, then you'll fink well before u brag in ur thankful circumstances. There's nothing as honorable as when a christian learns to bridle their tongue whenever necessary. You must fink u're now a bible scholar to try to attempt answers to questions humanity have been waiting on God to answer Convincingly for countless centuries.
Let God be God, and do ur job of serving him in purity and truth, dont attempt to bring taint to his name with ur fanatism

Even d best of preachers do their possible best to steer off of the most controversial debate ever in christendom
The concept of Good and Evil with respect to God's will.
It'll forever be an unfinished business.
you agree once again that God will cause grief and later av compassion due to love?
If love is what God uses to end the grief he may afflict us with out of his will. What then prompts God to cause the grief in the first place. Love too I presume as u've said in all ur opening article uh?

kullozone:
How can such write up convince anyone
Infact, you only exposed your god's selfishness and wickedness... Haba! Where do we even start from now?
Religion has ruined planet earth, I'm going to mars

Lady39:
Hi,
Followers of Christ have emotions just as well as anyone else. It's the ability to recognize the emotional flaw, acknowledge it & pray for Christ to permanently uproot it out of one's life. Things happen...We have not attained perfection just yet. Please don't use the OP's moment of possible frustration with u as a way to destroy his character or dismiss this thread.

0ubenji:
same thing a christian brother told him but won't listen. The type that brings ignominy to the name of God nd Christian-fold.

hopefulLandlord:
its you that needs to read, rituals don't mean they worship a god

for example, tell me the god(s) Buddhists worship

0ubenji:
good..now I'm bringing out the real man behind the ignorant sermon

0ubenji:
proclaiming the word of God erroneously with irreconcilable and contradictory expressions in your statements can never be what God sent u. Juz coz u keep rendering a barrage of bible verses with ur proclamations doesn't make u Godsent or spirit filled.
always try to quote appropriate bible verses strictly or atleast loosely in the context of what u assert. How does this apply to ur debate of your allusion of God's permission of evil upon us to Love?
This verse u quoted is meant to defend urself against adversaries who know not Christ in u. Seein you undergo difficult situations, yet with hope.

Peter instructs us to be ready to answer the question our life should inspire: "How can you be so hopeful in such difficult circumstances?"

Peter anticipates people will become curious. Hopefulness and joy are starkly different from the normal human response to suffering. So much so that people will be eager to understand it. What will we say when they ask? We must be prepared to give our defense, to make the case for faith in Christ. We need to reject the cultural pressure to keep our beliefs to ourselves. Instead, believers should openly share the good news of redemption through faith in Christ.

This verse u rendered was grossly misapplied

good, this applies to the Case of Job suffering for well doing as recorded in the bible. This means u've explicitly acknowledged suffering in christendom. Now, you shifted to the will of God being so, no longer, God allowing it out of love and just nature as u put earlier. I bet You'll attempt to entwine both, saying God's will is love always.
Yea, u right, this means it's his wish to do so if countless number of children and mothers suffer for nothing, worldwide. No food to eat or places to live. Some even die In their situation. Humanity(irrespective of their religion factions or belief system) do d best they can to help this ppl suffering for either well-doing or evil-doing which nobody but God knws, as far as we'd like to bliv it's his will.
But why da heck will u allude this totally to God's love and Just nature? This is pure fanatic Christianity.
U find it easy to spill these Ignorant phrases probably coz u find urself In a better standard of life compared to those undergoing the real hellish circumstances of life that u use as basis for ur faith.

enhancement can only apply to a preexisting entity. How bou someone who doesn't even knw the Christian faith, struggling to survive, children that have known suffering all their lives, ppl who wake up not knowing if they'll live thru dat day. I guess their inexplicable suffering is to enhance a faith that wasn't there in d first place?
I guess u've lived all ur life in d corners of a church. You don't read news, goto UNICEF, WHO, USAID websites and see suffering, then you'll fink well before u brag in ur thankful circumstances. There's nothing as honorable as when a christian learns to bridle their tongue whenever necessary. You must fink u're now a bible scholar to try to attempt answers to questions humanity have been waiting on God to answer Convincingly for countless centuries.
Let God be God, and do ur job of serving him in purity and truth, dont attempt to bring taint to his name with ur fanatism

Even d best of preachers do their possible best to steer off of the most controversial debate ever in christendom
The concept of Good and Evil with respect to God's will.
It'll forever be an unfinished business.
you agree once again that God will cause grief and later av compassion due to love?
If love is what God uses to end the grief he may afflict us with out of his will. What then prompts God to cause the grief in the first place. Love too I presume as u've said in all ur opening article uh?

0ubenji:
proclaiming the word of God erroneously with irreconcilable and contradictory expressions in your statements can never be what God sent u. Juz coz u keep rendering a barrage of bible verses with ur proclamations doesn't make u Godsent or spirit filled.
always try to quote appropriate bible verses strictly or atleast loosely in the context of what u assert. How does this apply to ur debate of your allusion of God's permission of evil upon us to Love?
This verse u quoted is meant to defend urself against adversaries who know not Christ in u. Seein you undergo difficult situations, yet with hope.

Peter instructs us to be ready to answer the question our life should inspire: "How can you be so hopeful in such difficult circumstances?"

Peter anticipates people will become curious. Hopefulness and joy are starkly different from the normal human response to suffering. So much so that people will be eager to understand it. What will we say when they ask? We must be prepared to give our defense, to make the case for faith in Christ. We need to reject the cultural pressure to keep our beliefs to ourselves. Instead, believers should openly share the good news of redemption through faith in Christ.

This verse u rendered was grossly misapplied

good, this applies to the Case of Job suffering for well doing as recorded in the bible. This means u've explicitly acknowledged suffering in christendom. Now, you shifted to the will of God being so, no longer, God allowing it out of love and just nature as u put earlier. I bet You'll attempt to entwine both, saying God's will is love always.
Yea, u right, this means it's his wish to do so if countless number of children and mothers suffer for nothing, worldwide. No food to eat or places to live. Some even die In their situation. Humanity(irrespective of their religion factions or belief system) do d best they can to help this ppl suffering for either well-doing or evil-doing which nobody but God knws, as far as we'd like to bliv it's his will.
But why da heck will u allude this totally to God's love and Just nature? This is pure fanatic Christianity.
U find it easy to spill these Ignorant phrases probably coz u find urself In a better standard of life compared to those undergoing the real hellish circumstances of life that u use as basis for ur faith.

enhancement can only apply to a preexisting entity. How bou someone who doesn't even knw the Christian faith, struggling to survive, children that have known suffering all their lives, ppl who wake up not knowing if they'll live thru dat day. I guess their inexplicable suffering is to enhance a faith that wasn't there in d first place?
I guess u've lived all ur life in d corners of a church. You don't read news, goto UNICEF, WHO, USAID websites and see suffering, then you'll fink well before u brag in ur thankful circumstances. There's nothing as honorable as when a christian learns to bridle their tongue whenever necessary. You must fink u're now a bible scholar to try to attempt answers to questions humanity have been waiting on God to answer Convincingly for countless centuries.
Let God be God, and do ur job of serving him in purity and truth, dont attempt to bring taint to his name with ur fanatism

Even d best of preachers do their possible best to steer off of the most controversial debate ever in christendom
The concept of Good and Evil with respect to God's will.
It'll forever be an unfinished business.
you agree once again that God will cause grief and later av compassion due to love?
If love is what God uses to end the grief he may afflict us with out of his will. What then prompts God to cause the grief in the first place. Love too I presume as u've said in all ur opening article uh?

Lennycool:
How did I lie?
I saidatheist made up 30% and the rest where either irreligious or religious.

hopefulLandlord:
it seems you love the sound of your own voice

I said

"THEY DON'T WORSHIP ANY GOD"

you've not proven me wrong with any of your copy pasta

not every religion involves worshiping of gods

maybe you should look at Kingebukasblog thread on "Gods without religion and Religion without Gods"

Lennycool:
30% of Japanese people are atheists. The rest fall under irreligious and the religions mentioned earlier

hopefulLandlord:
there comes a time when you know you're wrong but ego won't let you admit it, that's exactly what you're doing right now

jonbellion:
The two religions that have been fond of bashing and exhibiting bigotry to people that are different from them.
How would you guys bash hermaphrodites
Well a hermaphrodite is a person or animal having both male and female sex organs
Christians like pointing out how homosexuality/lesbianism is bad so how would you condemn an intersexual person
Who can they be attracted to?

0ubenji:
you fink I'm mixing things up.
this is one understandable problem with long stories, there's limited time to proof-read.
U keep saying something is in dis context only to say another thing the next minute.
I'll stil recommend James 1:26 to u..it's well

randomperson:
Really less than 10%, u better check again... And then compare with countries in Africa that have high Christian populations and let's see how far

hopefulLandlord:
Mr Blueagent, learn to read and understand

I said "THEY DON'T WORSHIP ANY GOD"

Shintiosm and Buddhism doesn't involve worshipping any god

Shintoism is cultural, not evey religion involves worship of gods, "Kami" is more "spirits" "essence" "nature" etc

Taoism and Confucianism also do not involve worship of any god

you can read up on Shintoism, Taosim, Buddhism and get more enlightened so you don't wrongly accuse me of lying

Hopefullandlord is not Yahweh that he should lie

Lennycool:
Not all religions believe or prat to God, and a lot of those religions are the majority in Japan.

jonbellion:
but I thought Christianity was not a religion

MrMontella:
how does this copy and paste help your position?

hopefulLandlord:
Mr Blueagent, learn to read and understand

I said "THEY DON'T WORSHIP ANY GOD"

Shintiosm and Buddhism doesn't involve worshipping any god

Shintoism is cultural, not evey religion involves worship of gods, "Kami" is more "spirits" "essence" "nature" etc

Taoism and Confucianism also do not involve worship of any god

you can read up on Shintoism, Taosim, Buddhism and get more enlightened so you don't wrongly accuse me of lying

Hopefullandlord is not Yahweh that he should lie

OLAADEGBU:
Who do you think you should support?

hopefulLandlord:
Japan has probably the highest life expectancy in the world and over 90% of the population don't worship any god