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airmark:
Leopard Sars ke?

U never see scorpion SARS?

Akinbahm:
No qualms bro, that's what I wanted initially to let go of ozil issue totally

Abi, what's the essence of arguing for 2 straight days over a non-starter in our team

Akinbahm:
Baba, but you never answer my question.

When I said I'm done, I mean I'M DONE.

On this SARS issue like someone clearly said on radio yesterday; attempting to reform SARS is like trying to make a rotten fish become fresh again: IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!

These SARS guys are mostly ex-cultists, unlettered and enfant terrible who have no boarders when it comes to unleashing terror on the same citizens they are meant to protect. A couple of months ago we saw a video of how they tracked a guy who is an armed robber/kidnapper, in the course of his arrest they ended up harassing his gf asking her derogatory questions like " Who disvirgined you?" " Why are you 4cking a criminal?"" would you be 4cking him if he didn't have cars and a fine house" etc.

I must say it is a wrong notion to say only cultist, armed robbers, yahoo boys etc that want SARS to be disbanded. A whole lot of hardworking Nigerians who have had close shave with death in the course of their encounter with these guys want them disbanded.

As far as 1998 one of my bros( not close relative, but a church member) had a terrible encounter with these daredevil men. He is a transporter who drives commuter buses from iyana ipaja to Ikotun on a daily basis. These SARS guys stopped him said they were going to search his bus; in the process they dropped a bullet in the bus and claimed they found it under one of the chairs. He was arrested on the premise that his bus was being used by armed robbers. This bros was detained for months, we had all lost hope and thought he was going to face firing squad which was the order of the day during the military Era. Though I was much younger then, but I knew several revivals and prayer sessions that was organized by our pastor on his behalf.

In fact that bros lost the gf he was going to marry that time due to the whole issue. Suddenly out of the blues the SARS guys requested for a substantial sum as bail if we want him out. The family and church members rallied round and paid the bail that was demanded. When he was out he narrated his ordeal at his Thanksgiving, believe me you will shed tears if you hear the dehumanizing conditions innocent people are subjected. He said each they the SARS guys kill people for sport . If u survive a day there u will thank God and pray for the same grace tomorrow.

Now imagine something that has been going on for over 20 years despite all the reforms being announced every year, what good do you think any reform will do now?

Recently myself and a friend were on our way for a social function and my friend was driving a Mercedes SUV. We were supposed to make a U-turn and take a shortcut, but before we got to the roundabout, I sighted these SARS guys in a small unregistered bus on the other side of the road patiently waiting for their prey. Immediately I called my friend's attention to this, he said we were going to follow the longer route to avoid the SARS guys ( mind you myself and friend are gainful y employed and we had our work ID's on us, but we know that won't stop those guys from harassing us immediately they see the brand of vehicle my friend was driving). This is to tell you the psychological effect these guys have had on the people they are meant to protect.

What I think should be done:

1. SARS should be disbanded and their members should be retrained, asked to sign a fresh oath to join the normal police force, shave their beards, dreadlocks and dress properly like police officers with name tags on them.

2. If a tactical unit must be formed to checkmate armed robbery, kidnappings and other social vices, then members of such unit should be made to have a special uniform that is easily identifiable and have name tags. The idea of wearing one useless vest on any piece of clothing should be discouraged. It should be a major concern that any armed robber or kidnapper can easily print these vests they wear and use it for carrying out crime while leading people on thinking they are SARS officers.

3. The government should take funding police serious and stop the nonesense of allowing police stations and the DPO's resort to self help when it comes to running the day to day activities of the station financially. I remember around 2017 or so when one stupiiid neighbor's son that had just started going crazy from excessive smoking of weed harassed my parents, we got him arrested and the DPO was about sweeping the matter under the carpet after collecting money from his parents. After I stepped in and we were about to do the DPO dirty, she moved the case to court but IPO said we must pay his transport to and fro court and still grease his palms with recharge card money cos he was not going to use his personal money to go to every court hearing. The police constant demand for money to pursue the case was so much that we had to resort to out of court settlement.

The government should fund the police well enough to enable them do their jobs, if not they will resort to anything to make the money and won't mind frustrating the efforts of people at getting justice

4. Lastly police officers should be made to wear body cam, this way their actions can be reviewed especially in Matters that escalates and results to use of extreme force.

Akinbahm:
Baba at the bolded in all honesty if either Saka or Raheem sterling Tweets against Nigeria Government based on their handling of the SARS issues currently does that mean they have delved into politics?

I asked the above question to clarify something biko...

The problem you have on this particular issue is you refused to see the China situation for what it is ; international politics.

If after all that has been said and even the links I've dropped you are still asking the above question, then I'm done trying to make you see what is glaringly clear.

ennyjay72:
Brendan Rodgers will just laughing at iheanacho,see stomach

After taking few Budweiser this night , I check my belle I still got pass Iheanacho

kokaneprodigy:
Because you’ve been trying to claim pay cut rejection has nothing to do with it but Erdogan and China.

If u go tru my initial post u will see where I stated Ozil's controversial person has been the origin of his predicament. He has always been dabbling in politics and putting the club in the limelight for the wrong reasons.

You are the one who assumed I was solely pegging his exclusion from the team solely on just one or two incidents. Somebody even pointed it out to u that Ozil had issues In Germany.

My point has always been clear, I don’t care how it’s done, Ozil’s constant outbursts , actions and inactions will be a distraction to the project Arteta, let the club find ways of having him leave with his negative energy

Spy360:
No body is denying what you are saying. The point is as an individual, Ozil has the right to express his feelings whether political or not.

US women team captains Alex Morgan and Raphinoe openly criticise President Trump during the last women world cup, they were not thrown out nor any sanction was made against them.

What I am saying is that Ozil is within his rights as an individual, so if the club decided not to play him, no problem as long as they keep paying his full salary. Ozil knows this and decided to play the blame game with them.

Ozil's case is even small compared to what's happening in F1 where Hamilton openly criticise F1 for not doing much against racism, still in F1 Kevin Magnussen refused to kneel for BLM yet no body is being sanctioned. These things are social and personal issues where everyone has his rights as long as they don't infridge on the rights of others.

I have no issues with Ozil standing on his rights, my issue is as a fan, I want him to play or make room for another player. But then, it is his call and I wont condemn him for it.

Is the US women national team set up as a commercial concern like arsenal? What's the basis of this Ur comparison?

Ozil with his comment hurts Arsenal’s potential income earning in the communist China and u expect the club not to throw him under the bus?

Do u know what he did is just like a staff of a food chain outlet in the US saying something like “ 4ck all gayss , all gayss deserve to rot in hell” .

You and I know such staff will be publicly denied by the retail outlet and his comment will be termed: "His personal opinion which does not represent what the retail outlet stands for ". That was exactly what Arsenal did. Why? Because the matter at hand is a sensitive issue

kokaneprodigy:
I know all these, but how come he wasn’t shut out of the squad then until pay cut saga. At least he has played in games after that ish.

If u know all this, then why have we been having this discussion all day?

kokaneprodigy:
You expect Chinese government to say it’s true, the same Chinese government that wasn’t honest with the COVID outbreak till it spread everywhere?

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/8/15/17684226/uighur-china-camps-united-nations

Here is an article on the situation China.

If u read tru that article u will see that the Chinese Muslim minority issue is more of a political affair that has been on for a while. The Chinese call them separatist who are seeking independence ( just like you have IPOB here which Nigerian government has decided to proscribe because they feel they are violent separatists)

I'm not here to debate whether the Chinese government is right or wrong on this matter, I'm only telling u it is a political issue in China which ozil erroneously dabbled into because of his Turkish origin ( If u read the article u will see where they wrote about the Chinese minority Muslims sharing the same origin with turkey)

If u must know, the issue has long been at center stage of discussions at United Nations even before ozil spoke about it. What more do u need to confirm it is a political issue if it's something that is being discussed at United Nations.

If you still don't agree, I don't know what to say again

kokaneprodigy:
How’s speaking against marginalization of a certain religion politics, but they could stand with BLM and kneel hypocritically every match day.
How’s what happened in China different from Xenophobia in South Africa. If I speak against Xenophobia that makes me political.

Did u know the Chinese government in response to Ozil's comments claimed Ozil's comments were premised on fake news? They claimed he was relying on untrue statements and even asked him to visit the concerned Chinese province to see things for himself.

Now whether the alleged persecution took place or not, we will never know. That is why it is politics; a little truth here, half truth and lies there and counter claims there.

Players should not dabble into such. Even when Ljunberg who was caretaker manager at the time was asked for comments he also stated it that he will leave politics for politicians. That's how it is done.

mostob:
Do you know how much Arsenal lost through the China ish? What Ozil did was wrong and being the highest paid player in the club,refusing to take pay cut after indirectly reducing the club revenue is absolutely bad. Infact,he should be the first person to take a pay cut.
BTW the paycut is temporary anyway.

He no just wan agree say Ozil na troublesome person. Accepted say the board sef dey form ego, but honestly Ozil is the kind of employee no business owner wants to have around

kokaneprodigy:
Don’t know about others but I careless if Ozil plays or not. I’m an Arsenal fan before anything else. But it’s highly unprofessional to bully an employee to take a pay cut.

For the umpteenth time, Ozil's problem is not paycut related. I posted a link up there that shows Ozil calling out the club's management for not dabbling into politics like he did

iamoyindamola:
The guy is a keyboard warrior, na only mouth him get.
If not for kola them suppose beat the werey sef

Ozil too get wahala abeg! A player that keeps talking to the press after every little issue not what we want for the balance of the team Arteta is building. Ozil is a good player, but that his many controversies won't help the team one bit

Spy360:
Bros haba!

As a member of society, he is within his rights to protest over an issue that affects him as a person similar to the Black Lives Matter movement EPL are championing since covid19.

My only problem with him is his refusal to compromise or look for job else where. but even at that he is well within his rights that is why the club can't touch him.

SMH!

Are You even aware that despite the fact that Arsenal's didn't chastise him for the comment he made on the chinese muslim minority, Ozil still went ahead to speak to the press calling out Arsenal's management for not standing with him on the same issue?

[b]Mesut Ozil has slammed Arsenal's failure to back his support of Uighur Muslims over their alleged persecution in China.

Arsenal midfielder Ozil spoke out on Instagram against China's treatment of the Uighur population in Xinjiang last year.

More than one million Uighurs and mostly Muslim Turkic minorities have been rounded up in internment camps, according to human rights groups and experts.

Arsenal did not criticise Ozil for making the comments, but instead posted on their page on the Chinese social media site Weibo that the club "always adheres to the principles" of not getting involved in politics.

Since then Premier League clubs have supported the Black Lives Matter movement after George Floyd was killed in America.

Former Germany international Ozil, who was frozen out by Gunners boss Mikel Arteta for "football reasons" since the coronavirus restart, would have liked similar support over the Uighur issue.

"It doesn't matter what religion or colour you are — Muslim, Christian, Jew, black, white or anything else. We are all the same," Ozil told The Athletic.

"What I said was not against Chinese people, it was against whoever is doing this to the Uighur Muslims and other people who are not helping them, such as other Muslim countries.

"I have given a lot to Arsenal, on and off the pitch, so the reaction was disappointing. They said they don't get involved in politics but this isn't politics and they have got involved in other issues.

"In America, we saw George Floyd killed and the world spoke up to say Black Lives Matter, and that is correct. We are all equal and it's a good thing that people fight against injustice.

"There are a lot of black players and fans of Arsenal and it's fantastic the club is backing them.

"But I wish people would have done the same for the Muslims because Arsenal have many Muslim players and fans as well, and it is important for the world to say that Muslim Lives Matter."[/b]

When I say Ozil is just too contoversial you people thought I was being emotional, but it is what it is. Ozil would do well if he leaves politics for politicians

mostob:
If you visit arsenal blogs like justarsenal,arseblog, you will know there are more we might not know about this Ozil situation.
One guy said Ozil-china issue where he blasted china for treating muslims badly really affect arsenal's business over there and by refusing to take paycut after creating such debazzle is what infuriate the board.

Most fans are just emotional and unwilling to call a spade a spade based on our current situation.

If Arsenal tomorrow gets an AM that that starts delivering like Bruno was doing for United towards the end of last season, trust me so many people will come out and call Ozil out for what he is. The only reason why most people are still stuck on Ozil is because we haven't gotten someone to take his place yet.

Ozil's diatribe concerning the muslim minority issue in China cost the club some good money. There's no way the management will be happy with him over that. for 4ck sake he is expected to be a professional and not a politician. His dabble into politics has been responsible for his current predicament.

No be juju be that?

Akinbahm:
Baba, dont let us drag ozil issue further just let is slide.

Issokay

kokaneprodigy:
Ozil played in January and I’m sure that was before Erdogan ish. So this Erdongan talk don’t follow.
No matter how you look at it the board is just foolish. They are losing this battle they know it, It’s just ego that’s pushing them

Funny guy. The Edorgan issue is just one of Ozil's issues. Is Ozil having issues both at Club and country level not enough to attest to the fact that he's a controversial figure?

I for one would prefer he's either paid off or himself and the board come to a mutual agreement and have him leave and possibly replaced. I don't want anything to tilt the balance of the project Arteta.

Akinbahm:
You said you didnt knw the full details yet you put the whole blame on a party baba where on earth is that done?

Alaye read my post again, this time without a pre-conceived assumption that I'm anti-ozil.

1. I said I don't the full details of their feud

2. I also pointed it out that ozil is a controversial figure which is true if you factor-in his dabbling into politics in the instance of his issue with his adopted country(Germany) back then, his choice of Edorgan as his best man and politics surrounding it, his outburst on the minority muslims in China and how it affected the club, etc.

3. Now I said such negative energy is not good for the balance of Project Arteta.

Oya how did I blame Ozil for the Feud between him and the management?

Igboid:
Ozil never won UCL.

The club made it clear that we don't need Ozil. Like United did with Sanchez. But because Sanchez is a player with self respect who still wants to play football, he took a massive pay cut and compensation from United to move to Inter.
Sanchez deal with United is more lucrative than Ozil deal with Arsenal both in duration and weekly pay, yet Sanchez didn't decide to sit behind in old Trafford to milk United while trying to make their board look bad with stupid PR stunts.

I get irritated when Arsenal fans support Ozil.
If Ozil have shame or still interested in football playing, as soon as he was told he isn't in Arsenal plans, he could have easily taken a pay cut and moved to a team where he can play.
Sanchez is currently on 170k/week at Inter, a massive pay cut from his 500k/week deal at United. But Oezil will not move or even accept loan deals, yet annoying Arsenal fans blame the board.

Come on!

This why I laughed the other day somebody said Ozil genuinely loves arsenal because he is offering to pay for the sacked mascot's wages.

I don't know the full details of his issue with Arsenal's board and I don'tr know who is at fault between the two of them, but one thing I have noticed is that Ozil is not a gentleman like he wants to portray himself to be. He's too controversial and I think that's not good for a stable and balanced team Arteta is trying to build.

iamoyindamola:
I also watched the bench cam scenes coaching no easy o, shouting and standing for almost 2 hours

No be small work ó, anyways that's why they get paid in millions cos they take the fall for the team when some players start becoming unfortunate fellows

daveP:
A Paper Analyzing if the Absence of fans is affecting the psychology of the game, leasing to goalsfest upandan. I don't totally agree, but the analysis ks accurate enough. Those oooooohhh and aaaahhhhhhs by fans do aftect decision making by players.

The absence of fans seems to have actually favored Arsenal thus far. We've been doing fairly well since the project restart with no pressure from our fans and the opposing team fans as well.

I never imagined Arsenal will beat Loserpool 3 out of 4 meetings with our current crop of players when compared to theirs but it did happen. We would've probably won the whole 4 if we had been more adventurous.

Without fans' noises players get to listen to each other and even the coach's instruction and execute same on the pitch in an instant. I mean I've been watching Arsenal's bench cam videos that shows Arteta dishing out instructions during the match and results showing almost immediately

I must cook asaro this weekend! It have tayed.

GboyegaD:
Lunch:
Fettuccine and cheese.

Missed Ur posts bro. Welcome back!

iamoyindamola:
I know it's not partey's fault
I'm blaming arsenal here, the money was there all this why didn't they pay since until last day

You don't understand. Arsenal was probably thinking they could get Athletico to negotiate for something lesser than the release clause stipulates.

When Arsenal saw it wasn't going to work, they decided to stick middle finger inside Athletico yansh and 4ck dem up

I'm sure Simeone is somewhere calling on God of 600 years for Arsenal

Why? Because the negotiations for a new contract with Partey had broken down a long time ago.

Atletico offered 3.5m euros net per year before the coronavirus pandemic, but that was rejected. And after football resumed the message from the club was that they could not afford even that.

The fact is that Partey felt he had been badly treated by Atletico. He was the worst-paid player in the squad, with a modest 1.8m euros net per year, and he felt he deserved more, considering that by the summer he had played at least 42 games over the previous three seasons.

@ Jodera, Mostob This is what I was talking about yesterday. Partey definitely moved for greener pastures and greener bank account Who no like better thing

mostob:
I'm actually putting the Ozil situation into context here. One of the reason he is still with us is that no team can afford his wage. He have no problem taking a pay cut but Baba want the money more than anything else.
Now back to Partey, what if he follows the Ozil way?

Ozil is still with us because he's an Arsenal player under contract. Ozil is a very controversial figure who would dabble into politics, religion and other sensitive matters to the chagrin of his employers.

Ozil's wages wouldn't have been a problem if he was a less controversial figure who does his talking with his game play on the pitch and leaves both the fan and management happy.

If Partey would follow Ozil's way then it would mean he would have to be as controversial as ozil has ever been

mostob:
Earning a pay rise from 65k to 180k is not little bro. That is roughly 3x of the previous wage.
Anyway, na arsenal sabi

Let me give u analogy.

A young guy who is in his early thirties and works as a financial analyst with let's say an investment bank is somewhere minding his business, gaining more experience and writing CFA exams with the little stipends he gets as salary.

He finally paases CFA level III exams, he now holds a CFA charter and his company is planning on promoting him.....While they are doing this, a bigger company has seen his profile update on LinkedIn that he holds a CFA charter and has hands-on experience so they poach him with a pay that is almost times 10 of his current pay.

Are u going to say the new company is not wise to pay him like times 3 of his current salary instead of the times 10 they offered him?


What I'm trying to say is this ; When Partey negotiated the current pay he had at Athletico he wasn't the key player he is now today, a lot has changed. He has grown from just that Ghana boy that plays for Athletico to a key player that has attracted the interests of top clubs in Europe. In other words his value had increased. This was what necessitated Arsenal giving him an offer he couldn't pass even for loyalty sake.

mostob:
Everything is wrong bro.

It might affect future transfer.

Future resale might be difficult

It might also influence players seeking new contracts.


Anyway, arsenal knows best. Let's continue to Partey

Which future resale again? We just signed a 27 year old on a 4/5 years contract. By the end of the contract he will be above 30 what future resale are we talking about here?

Any other player that wants to seek new contract will definitely negotiate based on their performance among other factors. Bellerin or Maitland Niles no go wake up one day say they must collect Partey's salary na. There are levels to these things

Kbs468:
if Arsenal had offered £180K maximum, he wouldn't have refused it because the new contract offered to him by Atletico is not even up to the times 3 of his present £60K a week salary ooo to even be effective next summer only

Employment contracts (which football contract falls under) don't work the way u see it.

If Arsenal had offered him 180k he may not have been moved to switch jobs. You see ehn most people I know including myself will not switch jobs if the company I'm going will only add little to my current earnings especially when I know my next promotion /new offer of contract will be in the range of what the new place is offering.

Why? Because there is uncertainty where u are going, u are going into a new system where u may fit in or not. You are leaving certainty for uncertainty ; so it is only normal for u to think they will make Ur jumping ship worth the risk by giving u something much more above Ur current pay.

Why do u think Ozil stayed at arsenal? Do u think he really loves arsenal so much like u claimed earlier? Arsenal have him an irresistible offer as at that time and he stayed. That is exactly what Arsenal just did to Partey and he jumped ship sharply.

Akposy:
Hello Foodies/Chefs et Cooks!
I miss this thread like kilode....lovely dishes everywhere . Lemme start posting my numerous dishes here.

Here's my Spicy Suya Fish (sawa fish) and Noodles. I made the suya spice myself...

U no dey ever disappoint Chef Akpos!

Oya lemme have the recipe for the fish. I used to really like shawa fish back then till people started saying it is too bony and said Titus is better. This Ur pishure suddenly make me crave it