European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 5:21pm On Oct 31 |
diggz: Make we all support Brighton today finish. Come tomorrow all man to himself as na Liverpool we go support 😂 Make today go first before we worry about tomorrow 😁 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 4:54pm On Oct 31 |
diggz: Since when you be Brighton fan? Hehe 😂 Na today na 😎 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 4:50pm On Oct 31 |
Brighton needs to be careful with man city pressure o ; they are looking for PK any way and anyhow they can get it |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:29pm On Oct 31 |
TemporaryHansel: The bride price itself is usually 5k-100k, but the remaining items on the list can take everything to 2m-3m, I've seen a lot of ridiculous lists. By ridiculous I don't even mean the amount of the stuffs,but the items that are listed there. You see stuff like beers for all the youths in the town,bike for the mother of the bride,lots of funny stuff.
You spend 2m to procure most of the items in the list, and even then we have yet to talk about the main marriage expenses oh. Na man do man sha.
Las las, the practice is still going on because men are still chesting it.
If na men like us full the country them for don abolish or reduce the stuff tey tey.
No matter how much I love you, I won't pay for those stuffs even if the money is there, if it doesn't make sense to me.
If people start absconding from marrying their daughters because of said list, they'll reduce it. It's just common sense. Yeah, you are right. It's because despite complains about such ridiculous lists, some men still find ways to chest it (even to the extent they go into debt), that's why you see the family and even the bride say things like "MEN DEY!" |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 4:13pm On Oct 31 |
Brighton score one more abeg. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 4:12pm On Oct 31 |
See better goal wey Brighton score City 😎 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 1:51pm On Oct 31 |
See Bruno lose man utd first goal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 1:31pm On Oct 31 |
Ibime: Bassey walks in over Chidi Nwanu/Stephen Keshi Osimhen walks in over Yekini Perhaps if Maduka had been playing, he would walk in over Rufai Is the argument about individual players' talent or what they were able to achieve together as a team? I mean the 1994 class of super eagles were rated number 5 in the world at some point. I don't think this present super eagles team come close to playing at that level raumdeuter: Bench how? Thats if they are allowed into the stadium
I think its a Gen Z argument sha |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:07am On Oct 31 |
pocohantas: SS return their daughters home. My SIL is from SS and we were told on the bride price payment day. It didn't stop or change anything. Na my brother wan marry wife. For me, that's a red flag Sha. If the wife dies and is taken home for burial, there are chances that a panel will be set up grilling the husband like he's responsible for her death. (Even when there are medical records that explains cause of death) Sometimes when parents tell their kids not to marry from one tribe or another, it's not necessarily because they are bigots. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:41am On Oct 31 |
Godx: Yes, I agree in some circumstances it can be harsh. If you don't have the means to return the deceased they are some rites the family members can perform back home but most actually do try to return their parents or love ones back for proper burial. Burying foreigners abroad is sometimes even more costly than sending them back home. No it's not. The cost of repatriation a body from abroad is usually a fortune. That's why most people always bury their loved ones abroad. About 17 years ago one woman in our estate who went to assist her daughter in the UK when she had a child died within 6 months of her stay in the UK. She was buried over there and they only did service for her here in naija. We later heard word on the street that the cost of bringing her home was just too much for the family to consider so they agreed with hurrying her over there. While it's good for cultures to be respected, sometimes I also think common sense and kindness should prevail. Nobody should be going into debt to bury their loved one because of cultural practises. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:36am On Oct 31 |
Godx: To avoid such then you should have done those rites when she was alive and she must have told him countless times. They are traditions that are not negotiable. It's kind of a punishment for allowing their sister or relatives to die without marrying her properly. There's a reason I used the word "unkind" and not any other word. If a cultural practise is kind, it will be considerate of the fact that mourning period should not be a time to "punish" someone who has kids with your "daughter". |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:18am On Oct 31 |
Godx: That's a weird culture that undermines her heritage. In my culture even if you die abroad you will be transported back to your family home and buried properly. So you are saying if a man and his wife borrowed £12k to buy COS and relocate to the UK in search of greener pastures ; and suddenly the wife dies a year and half after they relocated (bearing in mind tbey are still paying back money borrowed on a monthly basis).,,,,, The husband will be obligated to enter into bigger debt to repatriate the wife's corpse? Is the culture not too harsh on such family? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:08am On Oct 31 |
Godx: There's nothing strange or unkind about that. You must marry a woman according to the traditional rites of her village to be legally regarded as a husband. That's common knowledge and when she die you must perform those rites if you haven't before she can be buried. If you haven't done traditional marriage the family doesn't even regard you as husband and wives even if you have 10 children and have been living together for 20years. You think there's nothing unkind in haggling about the bride price, marriage list and other marriage rites of someone who is already dead and lying cold in the mortuary? Well, maybe our perspective about bereavement, mourning and honoring the legacy of a deceased is different Sha |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:04am On Oct 31 |
Godx: Why would wives be buried in her husband's place/Village before? Are they culture that allow such. You bury her in her village and that should be the norm. The idea of marriage is that a woman leaves her family where she was raised from childhood to adulthood , marries a man and they both start their own family. In the event of her demise, she belongs to that family she started with her husband. The should have a right to bury his wife as her legal and surviving spouse. That is what I think the norm should be. And that's what it is in most part of the world till I heard about some parts in the south south doing otherwise. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:49am On Oct 31 |
izzou: It's a very serious tradition there. Although I know that everything has a price.
And that's one of the reasons I detest cohabiting and babymamaship. Traditions will frustrate you if you haven't done some of their requirements.
Some will take the child if you haven't paid the bride price...It's a lot, abeg  To be sincere, na those cultural differences dey make parents forbid their kids from marrying from other tribes they don't fully understand their culture. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:46am On Oct 31 |
Ibime: Even I feel these lists are disrespectful to the grooms time. In theory, you are asking a young hustling man to be going to market upandan. Most times these are converted to cash amount. It's better you just send the cash amount. When I received my own list, I didn't even bother looking at it, I just told them to convert to cash amount, then I sent my Popsie to negotiate the cash amount in half. My original list was £12k, I told Popsie to reduce it down to £6k. I saw an email from one Aunty being disrespectful to my Popsie, so I booked wedding date and venue and sent them invite to pressure them. While I don't know so much about other tribes, I know the items on a Yoruba marriage list are kinda symbolic. Some of those items on the list like Honey, sugar, kolanut, salt, etc are used in praying for the couple and their union. So as much as u may want to convert the list to cash, someone in the groom's family will still have to take the pain to buy those items in the market and make it physically available at the venue of the wedding ceremony. In fact, I learnt there are people who whose job is to arrange and source for marriage list. Just like you even people doing event decoration, wedding planner, caterer, etc. Just give them Ur marriage list, they will source all the items, wrap them beautifully and deliver on your wedding day. 😂 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:26am On Oct 31 |
izzou: My brother
I actually know of a place in Delta. If you like, be Pastor Kumuyi Pikin, it will take a lot for you to bury their daughter in your own land.
For some Northern cultures, they don't waste a second to bury you. If you live in Kano, and die in Lagos, dem go bury you for Lagos sharp sharp, even in the absence of the family (I don't know of this is true)
That's why irrespective of love, it's good to do some family exploration, so you can understand what you're getting into. My father used to tell us about a distant relative whose wife died abroad and he had to cargo her down to Nigeria and back to her village in one of the south-south states. They claimed the didn't perform the required marriage rites when he married her abroad, so they subjected him to performing the rites from start to finish before they allowed him bury her. And yes, she was buried in her village and not her husband's preferred location. They were really unkind to the man. Most of the husband's relatives who know about the helll he faced always tell their kids specifically not to marry from that particular state because of the strange culture |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:19am On Oct 31 |
izzou: I am not defending the list. I am simply saying that those who broadcast this part of the culture, do not also add that is very open to negotiations.
If you were Jowizaza, or Seyi Tinubu, I don't think these lists would be a problem. Yet, people like that exist in that culture.
And even at that, people (poor people), still get married and fulfill the traditional rites.
There should be a balance. If you say some cultures can have outrageous marriage lists, also say they are open to negotiations.
It's not a do or die affair My own concern is why does one need to start haggling over marriage list? Why not just give something reasonable and get it done with? I mean the groom will still spend on a whole lot of other things in the course of the wedding ceremony and he will still need to be financially stable after the wedding ceremony. I understand Ur point that some of these things are blown out of proportion online, but u won't blame someone who sees an initial outrageous marriage list and decides to share it online. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:08am On Oct 31 |
izzou: All these things are just part of the culture. With time, some may be phased out, but we can agree that it's not a do or die affair, as Social media paints it.
And marriage is not even the worst of demands. What about burial?
There are cultures where if the woman die, you bury her at her father's place, not your (the husband's) place. Very common in some parts of the South South.
I may not like some cultural practices, but it's the variety of life. If everybody was upholding the same "sensible" practices, I wonder how interesting life would be  It is well o. That burial own is Being phased out gradually. Most people have used religion route to escape some of those cultural obligations. For example, there are Muslim sects who don't subscribe to even cooking for guests & mourners. Shey na those people u Wan dey ask for money and list of items required according to tradition? Àbí Shey na Christian wey belong To Deeper Life u Wan dey ask for cartons of beer, a she-goat, 2 kegs of palm wine, etc before they bury their loved one? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:46am On Oct 31 |
izzou: While it is true that lists are outrageous, social media has made a lot of things to be exaggerated.
Poor people marry. 170 million Nigerians are in poverty, yet they marry. No be the same tribe/region dem dey marry from/in?
Marriage list are very negotiable. No matter what is written on the list, dem dey negotiate to the barest minimum.
My guy got married from Imo state in June. After the long epistles written, he paid the bride price, and settled the list with 300k.
A lot of Superstories are just flying everywhere, online Yeah, I understand that some families would reduce the items after much back and forth haggling between both families, but I feel normally it shouldn't be something that will lead to such negotiations. In my own view, the initial outrageous list and subsequent review after negotiations between both families looks like the institution of marriage is reduced to a mere business transaction. I feel why not just give a reasonable list that is considerate of Ur son-in-law's pocket and get it done with? For example this list below, nobody will be haggling with u on top cos it's very straight and reasonable even in this current economy.Some of the items on it sef belongs to the bride.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:28am On Oct 31 |
TemporaryHansel: Correction, there's difference between bride price and marriage list. There's no where in Nigeria that the "bride price" itself exceed 100-150k. The issue is the "marriage list". Although both seem to be used interchangeably. While you may be right on the semantics about the actual bride price and the full marriage list, methinks at the end marriage rites should not be something a man would spend most of his life savings and still require the help of relatives and friends to carry out. Those items I do see on the full marriage list are just too much and sometimes inconsiderate. It sometimes looks like the bride's family don't mind throwing the groom into debt just beacuse he wants to get married to their daughter. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:50pm On Oct 30 |
GloriousGbola: As a naija matter the fire could have come from anywhere
Bad electrical connection Storing petrol in electrical room
We had a massive fire in 2009 when the facility manager overhauled generator with tokunbo turbocharger. Generator exploded at night. They put out the fire not knowing the fire had followed cables and entered the building. Four floors gone.
One time they were eating in gen house and that led to rats running around the place . Rat entered panel, shorted busbar and a fire started.
It could be arson, but a lot of things people do casually can also lead to fire. Also cheap inverter install with lithium batteries
Right now a lot of people are jumping on electric vehicles and those ones will likely soon start their own combustion issues once naija mechanics start messing with the batteries
I am kind of suprised sha because my mechanic who is effectively a road side guy has arrangements with vigilantes because of risk or vandalism. You are right, the fire could've been caused by electrical wiring in the premises. Nigeria ehn, sometimes tbey will bring light and u will see visible spark on the electric pole. Ive seen it countless times while going on the random and a random street Transformer would spark with naked light seen on the high tension cable. These things can cause fire. I seriously doubt it's arson. I saw videos of people who came out to assist in trying to put out the fire. It further reiterate my belief that generally, Nigerians dey lookout for each other especially when they see fellow Nigerians in danger. At that moment they will forget their differences. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:37pm On Oct 30 |
raumdeuter: Anyone doing any type of business and making it anywhere in the world, I give massive kudos to them
Though insurance will likely pay but to get that inventory back plus th increase in insurance going forward I doubt the guy has any Insurance jàre. From the comments of people who I presume know the guy running the workshop, he's just a mechanic who specializes in repairing Mercedes Benz. Most car dealers and importers take their cars to his workshop for him to fix any issues the Tokunbo vehicles have before they sell . So majority of the vehicles belong to dealers while the rest belong to his individual customers. My fear for the guy is that some of the car owners will not take the loss in good faith and tbey will definitely harrass him with both state and non-state actors at their disposal. While the guy is reeling from the loss of his workshop, he will be getting serious heat from customers whose cars got burnt. Any of the customers who has Comprehensive motor Insurnace can claim from their insurer and get paid. It's just that they will not get above whatever value tbey insured. So if the Benz was 20m when they insured and it's now 35m in the market, dem no go get pass that 20m. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:12pm On Oct 30 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:13pm On Oct 30 |
iamoyindamola: This is soo unfortunate, the guy business, clients car all gone Omo I hate shiit like this either coincidence or intentional the guy can't survive this As in....There's no coming back from this kind of unfortunate incident. As much as everybody knows it is most likely not his fault ,some of the customers whose cars burnt may threaten or even harm him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:01pm On Oct 30 |
A Benz Specialist's workshop was engulfed in fire overnight ; all vehicles in the guy's workshop were razed.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 3:02pm On Oct 30 |
iamoyindamola: You sef see am How the mighty have fallen Maybe Premier League should just award 0 points to both teams make dem rest. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 2:43pm On Oct 30 |
This one wey Chelsea and Man Utd fans dey wish their respective teams to lose ehn, I no come understand o  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 10:14am On Oct 30*. Modified: 12:42pm On Oct 30 |
Bluelines69: Alonso have now successfully added spurs 30 losses from 50 games played 😲 That means if it were to be a mini-competition involving Chelsea, Utd, Loserpool, Arsenal and City ; Una go be the whipping boys wey everybody go dey use stat-pad. 🤔 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 12:43pm On Oct 29 |
johnjunior39: But if we be honest this is where good management come in, Arteta need to create and work it out for him. VG came to arsenal not just to win tittles for us but to also improve himself. We need to ask ourselves why some players leave Arsenal and start shining. Havertz is not a striker , will never be a striker , you cant rely on him to win games. Wetin pain for Havertz case is that he cant even nod properly, how he always find himself in good position self baffles me because he will always waste it.
Now the team too have to particpate in the calling out, Like I used an example once, Chamarkh had a goal drought and everyone was crossing for him to score, teammates did it for Giroud too when he came new, same with Havertz , If I even rememeber, VG first goal he hustled it. Everytime I watch Arsenal game lately , they also play like there is no front man. Tzolis try though.
Havertz is best a super sub than a starter When you say "the team too have to participate in the calling out", I hope you don't mean that team members have to tell fellow player that he's not good enough? I don't thank that can ever happen. Most of the current Arsenal players have a very friendly relationship with each other. Aside that, I don't think Arteta will tolerate any player tearing fellow player down because of their perfromance. That being said, the part where you talked about everybody crossing to Chamarkh, Giroud, etc.....I think you are making it seem like the current Arsenal players are the problem as far as Gyokeres' form is concerned. I think that line of thought is unfair to the players. Last season Gyokeres arrived with lot of hopes and he got servicing quite well. But things didn't go as planne; he had some atrocious misses that are available in compilation videos on YouTube. He had misses against Man UTD, Kairat, Brighton, etc to mention a few. Despite the misses, he still ended up as Arsenal's top scorer. Why ? Because his teammates created those chances for him despite him having 13 big chances missed in the EPL and 10 missed chances missed in the UCL. While I don't fault the idea of other players picking him out with a pass when he's in a good position in the attacking phase of play, I don't believe everybody must focus on servicing only him when he plays. I don't fancy the idea of relying on a single player as our goal threat. He should also work on his positioning, his first touch and show us that big game player attitude we saw in him that made us sign him. I hope he rediscovers that form soonest, he needs to for the sake of the team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:59am On Oct 29 |
Realmrsean: we don dey enter dry season naau You know how it goes.. no more enough water to pump our hydro power stations The bold is a myth that we used to believe for years, but now we know better. According to the Nigerian Electricity Regulatory Commission, about 70% of electricity we use on the national grid is generated from gas powered stations (Thermal power), while hydropower stations account for less than 30% of the electricity we consume. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:50am On Oct 29 |
Realmrsean: dry season+ Lack of electricity ×El Nino ÷ Tinubu relection I thought Tinubu's reelection is supposed to have a positive effect on power supply na. Power supply is supposed to increase na , at least if he cannot fulfil the electoral promise of 2022/2023 to give 24 hours electricity supply; there should be considerable improvement in supply few months to election. |