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Congrats to Leno.

No clean sheet tonight

I watched a video detailing some great saves in the recently concluded EPL season and I'm afraid Arteta may be at a dilemma deciding who to start in goal come next season.

Honestly Leno is a damn good keeper with mad reflex .....Martinez appears to be so good a keeper to be a backup ; he seems like a calmer version of Leno blessed with starting-play-from-the-back which Arteta values much ( This was actually responsible for one of our goals vs man city).

Now I understand the pains of Chelsea fans . If they had just one of those two their season would really take a nice turn as opposed to having Aribisala Manning the post

kokaneprodigy:
Reason I mentioned they don’t have to start together particularly with Willian on board. Nothing wrong with having a bench with Laca, squad depth is what makes elite teams.

One of the challenges Emery had was depth, he didn’t manage the usual starters properly and had no bench to fall back on. Reason the likes of Guen, Willock, Nelson and AMN enjoyed massive amount of play time when the usual starters couldn’t effect whatever game plan he had. We know where that got us.

Emery na mumu coach.

kodded:
all those players I listed have no place in the team

especially if we bring in partey and ceballos.


lacazette can go since it looks likely that abuameyang will sign a new contract.

AMN can also leave since arteta prefer bellerin to him.



the club is broke and we need funds to bring in arteta preferred players, I see no reason why we can't sell those valuable players that can not fit into arteta team.

Exactly!

The club must sell for Arteta to get his kind of players, but most of the players referred to as difficult to sell .

iamoyindamola:
he say you know ball na true

I just know u will hold on to that line

Kbs468:
Rate this our away from home jersey for 2020/2021 season please

Na this one I go buy Jàre. I no fancy the red one a bit.

donjazet:
I see that someone else has already addressed this. I don't agree with the extent he went to and the insults but he certainly speaks my mind.

I don't like how you have selectively pointed me out to tell me this.
First of all, we all know that nihilist is the king of trouble here, when did nihilist start caring about who is "offended" here or whose ox is gored.

I was on my own and he chose to misrepresent my position and cast in me in an unfavorable light despite everyone else seeing the point i was making, but you have chosen to call me out. This will be the second time you are doing this. It's speaks bad of you.

You can see how many people here encouraged the debate to go on because of its civil nature until nihilist decided to be condescending.

This selective cautioning is very bad. I wont address this subtly next time.

Alright big man.

Expert17:
Arsenal fans get patience naturally

i know right

afrodoc2:
You get patience.

Even me.sef surprise for myself say where I see the kain patience to engage am.

kokaneprodigy:
In one breath u say we want to bench 50M player is Odsonne coming cheaper? Will he start ahead of Auba? Considering the more pressing areas we have to fix, adding CF palava a to the mix will just complicate things.

Na wa ó. You people just like taking arguments out of context till the main point of the arguments will be lost midway.

The main point of the discourse had been can Arsenal afford to lose Lacazette? Yes! I believe we can do that because He's not some Van Persie, Alexis Sanchez etc who contributed immensely to our goal scoring at various times.

Agreed Lacazette is a quality player but he has not shown that much quality yet in Arsenal colors. This is a fact. Ask me if arsenal can afford to lose such player I will always answer the affirmative.

I'm not saying he must be sold, but if there's need for him to leave I will be unbothered if the club doesn't do much to keep him. Why? Because he's not indespensible.

If the scouts get a decent prospect at a good price to replace him, then I'm all in for that.

This is how I feel about Lacazette. No more, no less. I'm not emotionally attached to him but what he has done and what he can do on the pitch

segunzik:
Oga sir, my name is Oluwasegun, i don't know who the Bleep is Darlhngton okafor.
E sure me say you dey confused. You clearly did not understand their discussion. By what i read, since yesterday, donjazet started pointing out the faults in Islamic religion by calling Muhammad a pedophile and stating that bad things like that should be criticized and no one should be criminalized for saying that. This was the base of his arguments which you yourself bin talk say you like.
The way I see it, he responded to nihilistjnr like that because of the way nihilist use style tell am say him just dey find way to look for Muslim's them wahala.
I only responded to you Because you said you liked what donjazet was saying, yet you face am instead of to face the guy wey first find trouble. Over and out.

This is why I say English failed you. You don't seem to comprehend what u read. If the bold is what u think Nihilist was saying then we probably don't have any reason to have this discussion further.

Spy360:
So we keep Lacazette or replace him with a top striker. The latter like I said would be difficult and expensive.

If he wants to go, we have no choice but to replace him.

segunzik:
Look the mata well. Go back to the first post wey nihilist reply donjazet and then the post wey donjazet reply am, him use style tell donj say him na trouble maker.
E dey somehow say you leave the person wey first find trouble, come dey face person wey defend. See my point here.

Now I understand what Ur problem is; u dont seem to understand contextual use of words.

Anybody who understands English will read that post by nihilist to mean : wanting to be free to call Mohammed a paedophile isn't about freedom of expression against Islam being a violent religion ( because almost all religions have extremists) rather it's about you wanting the right to be offensive.....

By the way I have a feeling u are darlington sef. If my guess is right, then I think it's understandable why u still dey fail jamb as recent as 4 years ago

segunzik:
Why una wey be Chelsea fans like to dey kiss ass? Na so you take like shit?

You use your hand talk say u like the points wey donj bin dey make, yet you no see where nihilist bin dey use style dey call donj trouble maker untop the post wey you say you been like. Na when donj come sama nihilist him mind, na where you remember say you be motivational speaker. You no face person wey first find trouble, na the person wey defend, you come dey face. Bros, na so you take like shit?

Who is this one again?

I don't know what u read from the posts but this is what I read that made me make that post :

Nihilist says it is offensive calling the holiest man in a religion ( in this particular case; Islam) a pedophile and it is not in anyway a constructive criticism.....

Donjazet comes up and says nihilist is stupid for assuming this.


You sef judge am na.......Haba......of all the things Donjazet could've said to continue the discourse that was the least I was expecting.

If u still think I was asslicking....well I don't have words for u

kokaneprodigy:
A club who had Ozil on bench while gulping almost x2 the wage of Laca?

You are missing the point. The point is Arsenal having Ozil on the bench and frozen out of the team is bad enough.

Jodera:
True about what you said concerning lacazette tho. Just saying no need selling lacazette cos he's one of the least deadwood we have. It's always good to have squad depth and a good manager can keep someone like lacazette happy even while not a first team player. I hope Arteta does so

I agree with you and never will I ever call Lacazette a deadwood cos He's not one.

I was only pointing it out that if he wants to leave he can actually do and Arsenal won't find him irreplaceable like that.

kokaneprodigy:
So u are saying city no longer have players on bench that would walk into some top teams first 11?

Man city can afford to have several 50m players sitting on the bench....can Arsenal afford same ?

Spy360:
You cannot say something and claim you are not responsible for it's consequences.

Okay comman force me to scout for his replacement na.

Jodera:
in city, I think this isn't the norm. Aside sane(who was nearing last year of his contract), I don't see any other person forcing move away from city.
From gundogan to b.Silva to Jesus etc

You obviously don't know players moving away from a club at times has to do with factors like how competitive it is getting into your country's national team.

Sane for example needs to play regularly to cement a spot in the German national team. Bernando Silva on the other hand is a Portuguese who will mostly get called up by his national team.

A player like Lacazette will move out of Arsenal if he's assured of a starting shirt at a club like Athletico madrid. He has so many people to contest with in the French national team unlike players some other players who have it easy at their own end.

kodded:
what I mean is that the presence of lacazette or another top striker in the team will mean that abuameyang will have to move to LW. which will make our attack blunt

If we have 2 decent top strikers nothing spoil. Its not compulsory Auba plays LW if we have good wingers on both right and left hand side that can serve him.

The second striker can always come from the bench or used together with Auba when the coach wants to adopt 4-4-2. Auba playing LW and scoring from that position only attests to his versatility

donjazet:
You must be stupid for saying this.
What gives you the right to assume where my stance come from?
I knew you were just looking for an opportunity to get personal, for weeks now you've been trying to throw punches at me for no reason. Abeg shift, I no get your time.

Go and retrace how the argument between me and Amoto94 progressed, you have no right to assume i was being offensive.

Amoto pointed out that it was now criminal to criticize religion at all and that was what led me to start pointing out the shortcomings of his religion.

You saying I'm being offensive is your way of making me and you start fighting as per your e-warrior strong head. Please take many seats and sit down, I will not stoop to your level today.

Baba you fall hand with this post

I was really enjoying how you were engaging and laying bare ur points. You were really passing some info in ur arguments talking about the two religions and followers emulating the biggest religious figure and all..... You for just keep it cool till the end.

There's no need for the insults. You supposed dey calm down small small abeg

kokaneprodigy:
lol these talk about a player not being happy on bench is only peculiar with arsenal fans, reason we are where we are. City has players on bench that will walk into starting lineups of some top teams, same with Barca, PSG, Real Madrid. Squad Depth wins you trophies, it’s not a cup tournament of less than 10 fixtures for us, it’s a season of over 50 fixtures for us. AMN won’t be happy on bench, sell him, same with Laca, that’s how we sold Gnabry. Then we have a first 11 with useless players on bench that can change things if game ain’t going as planned

Oga this talk would've hold much water if players like Sane didn't leave man city for lack of playing time.

kodded:
even if we get a ball playing CM, our attack will still be predictable if abuameyang is playing from the left wing



...have you forgotten how useless abuameyang is when he try to take on players ?


.... abuameyang is a goal poacher which means that even if he plays as a CB, he will still find the back of the net, and that is the primary role of a CF, so please we should not waste that man talent all in the name of accommodating a £50 million poor man Giroud.

we need to have a deadly attacking front like Liverpool or man city, all this sympathy for medicore players will only cement our position as a mid table team

I really do not understand where you are coming from. I don't remember me saying Auba should be shunted to the left side of Attack. I am one of the main advocates of Auba here because he has always delivered no matter where he is playing in our attack.

Maybe u need to watch the video I posted up there again and see some of the goals Auba actually scored from the left wings before talking about his predictability on the left wing.

kokaneprodigy:
In the build up to most of those goals, u can see how free Auba was most times. Pepe does some of these pullings, Laca does too when he plays. I’m just stating what I’ve noticed.
There was a time some rated Laca for scoring the hard goals here and helping us in difficult situations while hoping we sell Auba cos he scores only tap-ins.
Y’all have switched sides again.

I repeat selling Laca right now is not necessary, with Willian joining we’ve got more options on the wing. We need just 3 players. A CB,DM and AM 150M can sort this, selling Ozil, Guen, Mikki, and adding 80M can sort it. We don’t have to sell Laca this season we are in europa we need all the options we can get. My 2 cents.

I think u need to go back to the Genesis of this discourse.

I posted a rumored Laca exit-story that clearly says...." The Frenchman will be allowed to leave once Aubameyang re-signs at Emirates"....

I referenced my post last week in which I talked about Laca well suited for Athleti’s style of play than Arsenal’s.

I don’t think the post claimed Lacazette must be sold or shipped out, rather the post by goal is suggesting he will be allowed to leave which means he will probably not be favored as first choice. He definitely won’t be happy on the bench.

And yes I believe we can always do without his style of play that yields lesser goals as a top 9.

As for scoring Tap-in goals I will gladly wait for u to dig up posts showing me disrespecting Auba for scoring Tap-ins. You are probably confusing me for someone else

kodded:
did you watch that our match against Aston Villa ?

And u think that match was not won due to blunt strike force

That game was not won due to lack of creativity in the middle of the park. That was why I talked about getting a ball playing CM earlier

kokaneprodigy:
How many goals does Firminho score per season at Liverpool. And I don’t see fans call him over rated.
When Neymar was at Barca, I doubt Suarez out scores Neymar and Messi. You need a rugged CF in 4-3-3.
You need a Lacazette in a 4-3-3 unless we are switching formation next season.

You clearly don't know how tight and effective MSN was. For your information Suarez outscored Neymar and was also outscored by the GOAT messi. Suarez is a performer and not a choker like Lacazette.

I don't think u listen to sports programme wella, I've listened to sports radio on programme with people calling Firminho a fraud.

If we need Lacazette, then he should start scoring. By the way Saka, dem pepe even contribute more to goals when on the pitch than this Lacazette sef

kokaneprodigy:
I concur,

Guys don’t always take a holistic approach when analysing a players performance. He’s a CF so let’s rate him with just goals . The presence of Laca and Pepe in the front line help create space for Auba.
Auba doesn’t do well in tight situations reason he can hardly score the kind of goals Laca scores, reasons he hardly scores when being focused on by defenders.

Pepe and Laca pull defenders to themselves to create space for him (Auba) to run into reason he does most of the scorings and y’all begin to look at others like they are not performing.

It’s like telling Klopp to sell Firminho since he’s the CF but Mané and Sala out score him and watch their attack crumble.

1. Do you know Auba scores with or without Lacazette on the pitch?

2. How many times has lacazette scored those "Lacazette kinda goals?

3. Below is a link to 20 of Auba's goals this season. Take your time and watch and count the number of times Lacazette was spotted pulling defenders towards himself for Auba to make a run and score.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iWOBgoFx8M

4. In fact, Saka and Pepe had more contributions to Auba's goals than Lacazette ever did this season. Sorry u can't tie Auba's brilliance to Laca's constant no show abeg

afrodoc2:
Auba, Pepe, Saka, Martinelli, Nketiah, Nelson. You guys won't miss that hyena Lacazette.

Use the money to improve your defence and CM. There are many decent CBs available now for small money cos of COVID.

I just watch and laugh when guys think CB is not a pressing issue at the Emirates. We have enough fire power upfront. Just one quality CB, CM/DM like Partey, have Ceballos deal made permanent and we should be looking solid.

Proceeds from sale of players like Mkhi and possibly Ozil should also go a long way

afrodoc2:
Lacazette has always been overrated. Martinelli will replace and surpass him easily if he can stay fit.

Sell Lacazette and give more minutes to Martinelli and Saka next season. Use Lacazette money to improve the defence and CM.

Most fans just refuse to acknowledge this fact. Lacazette is not a 20 EPL goal per season and I doubt he will ever be even if Auba leaves.

Spy360:
So which top striker is available to replace him in your opinion?

I leave that brainstorming to people who are paid to fly all over Europe and the Americas to scout top quality players for the club.

Spy360:
I am not opposed to selling Lacazette but we need a replacement first. Unless we want to continue whining... :-/

I am also not opposed to replacing him. It is only normal to replace a top striker once he's sold

AgbenuAnna:
When are we eating party rice
We have been seeeing someone’s daughter and someone special
Let me look for reason to visit Lagos for the first time

Work in progress ma'am