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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:19pm On Oct 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
This makes more sense. Have a commission to look cases of fraud and refusing to pay winnings not banning it totally but in fairness many US states also outlaw gambling
Betting has been legal in Nigeria since I could remember ; that’s how baba Adebutu and Ayooku ( his friend ) made their first big money before they diversified into other business concerns .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:18pm On Oct 21, 2022
GloriousGbola:
You cannot win with these betting companies. The house always wins

This is also why our bet9ja guy entered lasg House of reps. To ensure he can manage the govt oversight
It’s people who don’t know this that run into financial mess while gambling . Growing up I knew a lot of baba’s that play what we call “pool” …. The legit predict draws of matches being played in championship , league one , league two , Australian league etc.

These babas don’t run into financial ruin like young boys today are; maybe because they are reasonable enough to see gambling as a hobby and not a means to get out of poverty. U will see them sit at the pool shop studying chats and forecasting .

I still maintain it’s the poverty , joblessness and the get rich quick syndrome of today’s youth that’s responsible for their problem with betting .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:09pm On Oct 21, 2022
GloriousGbola:
I know exactly where you are coming from, but the proliferation of the betting houses is on another level. Nigerians have been drinking, knacking, oloshoing for years, but all this betting is straight up destroying people in ways that shak and toto have not been able to.

It is something you need to see. This is not like Vegas or all those powerball type stuff.

Maybe because it is designed to take your money while giving you enough delusion to come and drop more money. The house always wins. At least for ashawo joint you can bust your nut and have memory to show for it.

All you have for bet9ja is come and drop more money tomorrow
Betting is not the problem , it’s the get rich syndrome of Nigerians that is . Don’t be deceived betting companies in Nigeria are no different from dem Bet365 , William Hill and other foreign bookies . Whether u are a gambler in Nigeria or the UK it doesn’t matter ; it’s the poverty in Nigeria that makes people think they can win millions with few thousands of naira . Some get lucky like the guy that won 38m with 800 naira recently that trended ; while others are not so lucky.

You can’t blame bet companies for the greed of the gamblers . Nigerians have always believed in miracles and that’s why they will always run into debt thinking they win millions from a game that is decided thousands of miles away
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:02pm On Oct 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
We can pursue this argument and tag many means of entertainment as fkking people over. He can seek to regulate and clamp down on those betting agents taking advantage of underage or rigging the machines but an adult has a right to fucck his own life over anyhow he wants

If we allow sports betting ban, Soon we can use this same argument for beer parlour, BBNaija, Music industry and our beloved national monuments called Ashii joints. Some of these beer parlors and olosho joints are located opposite schools BBNaija and sexy music videos can be accessed by everyone

emmanuelscott1, izzou nezzjnr and Blueraydick this is an Endsars riot that I will support you on. The day they tried to ban ashana joints
I just did a quick search on the news to find exactly the reason why a governor would ban betting/gambling in a non sharia state and the screenshot below is what I found .

Apparently the state government received complaints from gamblers that the betting companies have not been paying their winnings and some are manipulating their gaming machines .

In my opinion the reasonable thing the state government should’ve done is put up measures that will check activities of the betting/gaming companies , have a state lottery commission that sees to these complaints and have a channel for resolving such issues . Placing total ban on the activities of betting companies in the state makes no economic sense ; considering Soludo himself is an economist

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:15pm On Oct 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
So you sef dey fear. Talk to Segedinho make him armor you up
I am a very reasonable person , I don’t joke with my security and most importantly my life .

I too like my life Abeg.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick:
Izzou this is the place I was referring to that day we discussed the flagboi issue . If u notice under that tree beside the broken down BRT ; some agberos are seated and already doing TGIF smoking and drinking .

I couldn’t take a closer picture for security reasons .

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 4:16pm On Oct 21, 2022
Jodera:
I swear down, he needs to stay fit.
Ystdy, as I dey watch Sambi my eye just dey pain me for him defensive work.

We need another Dm we can also bank on this season come January.
Immediately Partey came in yesterday and he played one pass through the middle , I shake my head like this say see wetin we don miss .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:17pm On Oct 21, 2022
afrodoc2:
You guys need to stop giving them any money whether they ask nicely or not. This was how it started in the 80s with police begging for small egunje and by the 90s they became entitled and started demanding for bribe and shooting people over it.
Unfortunately it is Nigerian culture to give out money when people beg/ask nicely; Maybe if I was in another country I wouldn't have obliged
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:45pm On Oct 21, 2022
Theflint1:
https://humanglemedia.com/names-of-lekki-toll-gate-massacre-victims-we-have-so-far/ Here are the names of the victims of the Lekki shooting.
Even if u bring the corpse of those that died that night , those that don’t want to believe still won’t believe people died .

Anybody that wants to refresh their memory about the atrocities that happened that night can go through the Chelsea thread link below to see the posts and comments of posters that night in real time

https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/10175

It’s funny how days after people started debating whether what we watched in real time did happened or not

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGlJZ_YHTEK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:39pm On Oct 21, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I was actually wrong about that.[/color]

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:56am On Oct 21, 2022
liveLongNprospa:
Izzou I remember you arguing that it wasn't possible for Flagboi to have been attacked in oshodi..

https://twitter.com/ChudeMedia/status/1583370902548664323?t=BzfW90jIJRAvdZKuL3qAgw&s=19[/quote]Nobody here has said anything about this . Na wa o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:29am On Oct 21, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So, we can begin another tomorrow on poor electricity

Then maybe another next year on corruption

Lol. It wont be long before we ourselves become burnt out[/color]
Nigeria has not had stable electricity since independence and nobody has deem it fit to protest it, same with corruption .

The fact that the youth protested against police brutality and they achieved something is commendable . That’s the point .
Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by BlueRayDick: 9:06am On Oct 21, 2022
Breakie : Yam Porridge + beans + fresh fish

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:03am On Oct 21, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]We had so much on our plates that dwelling on only Police Brutality was just a waste of opportunity.

If Policemen have not been paid for a year, shouldn't they be protesting themselves? Why are they still going to work if they haven't been paid?

We dwelt too long and much on it, whereas we had 99 more problems at hand[/color]
The ENDSARS was just a way of people saying enough. The young bank worker with his cool ride that has been profiled and extorted severally has had enough, The Young tech guy who earns in dollar doing remote jobs online has had enough of harassment, The colleagues of the Remo stars FC captain who was killed by SARS has had enough and then we have the Yahoo boys who are criminals themselves but can't bear criminals in uniform continue to extort them.

To me I believe the police brutality which was the main issue was reduced to a bare minimum, now we see police officers bringing out their cameras to film their encounter with citizens just to prove their innocence incase they are accused of brutality while doing their lawful duty. That in itself is a win.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:05am On Oct 21, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]We dwelt too much on Police Brurality, days after the VP had promised and started acting on the reforms. It now became a case of the Hunter becoming the Hunted.

That would have also been an avenue to demand accountability from office holders. Everybody resides in a ward, in an LGA, in a constituency,
in a state. Instead of walking aimlessly, we could have taken our protests to the abode of our respective office holders and demand better.

Also, it started to turn to a charade. No direction and bearing. Anybody just jumps out, blocks the road, and starts playing music. We started afflicting ourselves and suffering ourselves.

To me, we would have used that opportunity to demand just more than Police reforms, which was already granted even before the protest got halfway [/color]
None of everything u hoped for would’ve yielded any serious result if the protest had died a natural death after Osinbajo promised police reform was being done . Just take a look around , policemen are still protesting as of this year of non payment of salaries ( which is one of the demands of the protesters)

The truth is our politicians who form the government are insincere and the people know this .

Funny enough if the people had taken their grievances to their wards and LGA’s , the representatives would’ve also blamed FG and state government as usual and absolving them of blames . I remember how local government chairman blamed Ambode for bad trunk C roads in their communities. 4 years after Ambode there are still bad roads littered all over LCDA’s in Lagos. I saw one particular road in Ikotun that trended recently , the road was totally cut off . I believe if it was during Ambode he would’ve been blamed for not releasing funds to Lagos state public works and also the LCDA’s to carry out the repairs .

I also felt the protests not having coordinators made it directionless at a point . That’s why I’m not a fan of anything called decentralized in Nigeria, it gives room for charlatans and unscrupulous people to mix with people with good intentions .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:34am On Oct 21, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I feel we wasted that opportunity sha.

[/color]
What do u think should’ve been done differently and what did u hope would’ve been the eventual result ?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:22am On Oct 21, 2022
No matter how we look at it sha , the ENDSARS protest yielded some results. Nowadays police harassment has reduced to a reasonable extent sha .

I remember last Sunday while driving some police officers stopped me for regular stop and search and after confirming my papers were fine and My drivers license still valid , they just said “ Bros happy Sunday , show ur brothers love” . I just smiled and handed the guy #500 without being under any form of threat. He was appreciative , waved me bye and I moved .

I wondered how that could’ve ended prior to the whole ENDSARS protests. I know police officers still extort people but it has reduced to a bare minimum sha
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:54am On Oct 21, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I can't remember if its your moniker, but it was said that Nwafor is not answerable to Obi, and therefore Obi wouldn't know anything about the killings.

Maybe its true he doesnt know, but the excuse of both of them acting separately does not fly with me. If Obi wanted to do any "dirty job", he can use Nwafor for it (I am just assuming).

I just wanted to point out that any security unit in a state can be used by a governor, and thats why i said the Sanwo-Olu example.

Sanwo-Olu invited the Army. They are not under him. But someone expects me to believe Obi cannot ask Nwafor to do anything?

Na the double standards be that[/color]
Okay , No be me .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 6:52am On Oct 21, 2022
kokaneprodigy:
He’ll rest them in subsequent Europa fixtures
I think what he has done is to guarantee we finish top of the group. Now with two fixtures left we just need a draw against PSV to seal that.
I knew that was his game play but I felt it was quite unnecessary because we would still have topped the group without risking those guys . Just look at how Jesus was continuously kicked by those Dutch farmers yesterday , it was agonizing to watch knowing the impact Jesus has had in our frontline since his arrival .

I’m more concerned about making top 4 than making final of Europa league which we could still lose through ill-luck .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick:
izzou:
[color=royalblue]You guys just said the security of a state is not answerable to the governor.

I am using your logic against you.

Nwafor is not answerable to Obi, but the GOC is answerable to Sanwoolu abi?

I just wanted to show you the double standards in the argument[/color]
No , u don’t get to do that . All u said was “ I don’t know “ all through the night . U didn’t know what exactly was Peter Obi’s role was in the AwkuzuSARS saga .

Now we moved on from that and talked about the events of October 20 2020 which is not one and same with the atrocities of SARS all over Nigeria prior to the ENDSARS protests . We are talking about the events a day before that day and the D-day itself .

Sanwoolu confirmed by himself that he called soldiers to “ intervene “ at lekki . Yet u said he can’t be blamed for what happened that night . I pointed it to u areas in the state that had serious issues of insecurity like Orile , Mushin and co which needed Soldiers intervention but didn’t get any .

So I really want to understand where “ I’m using ur logic against u “ is coming from
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 5:38am On Oct 21, 2022
sod09:
No one is talking about how gakpo was kept at bay by Tomi
The way he does it effortlessly is amazing
No be today na. Tomi kept the African GOAT Sallah at bay few weeks ago, so it’s not surprising he kept an upcoming Gakpo silent all night yesterday
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:03am On Oct 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
Kanu is a rabid dog and Obi who knows the content of Kanus speeches and hatred towards Yorubas supports and defends him night and day

Adaobi does not hide his hatred for Yorubas anyway and this has been in different forms since his foray into politics

If we have people like Obi and Kanu who hate Yorubas openly, why should we not have Yorubas who dish it out to them in equal measure?
Has there been a case of Peter Obi defending any of the hateful words Kanu hurled at Yorubas or Hausa/Fulani in the past ?

If yes , Please kindly share a link to such news .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:27am On Oct 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
Have you not heard equal from Ibos especially Obi as well?

Did you not see where Obi was characterizing a party as Yoruba party?
or where Yoruba's are insulted regularly by anyone and everyone.
Was Nnamdi Kanu not directing protesters on how to destroy Lagos or placing curses on anyone who attends Yoruba churches. This Kanu is a close associate of Obi and Obi defends him regularly
Personally I see Kanu as a rabid dog who normal people shouldn’t take serious irrespective of whatever message he may claim to be passing across .

Only Peter Obi and those who associate with him Kanu knows why they do . I called Great.Ihex out on this severally and he seem to believe Kanu is the hero they’ve been waiting for irrespective of Kanu’s irrationality and choice of words.

I’m all for Kanu being detained but within the ambit of the law . If the government will not play by the laws/constitution then it gives room for non state actors to act themselves as though they are government to other people .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:13am On Oct 21, 2022
Donjazet2:
I know better not to take all the stuff I see online personal, but for God's sake it's dayo we're talking about here. It's not just an unknown personality.

This guy has actually appeared to be reasonable and educated "online". So how can such an OLD person be this foolish and wicked?

And don't also forget that things said online do go offline, I mean the Peter Obi phenomena is an example of this.

Another thing that keeps me worried is what I've also heard from Yoruba leaders. From Tinubu's wife, mc olouomo to the traditional rulers.
1. Tinubu’s wife is a politician

2. McOluomo is a tout who is loyal to his principal and would do or say anything to ensure he delivers for his benefactor in his own domain.

3. Traditional rulers will always to the dictates of their regional government and local politicians ; they know the power these people wield compared to their own local powers . No be for our eyes Ganduje dethrone Sanusi Lamido on top political differences ? A traditional ruler going against someone like Tinubu in the Southwest will be seen as trying to open an empty calabash by himself ( it’s suicide )
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:50pm On Oct 20, 2022
Donjazet2:
I really can't rationalize this hate towards igbos in particular though.
But I'm still saying it, that what I'm seeing here, I've hardly ever experienced this. I come online and I see the worst of rabid tribalism from people who should know better. It fills one with a sense of trepidation after reading these vile things. But fairly every single Yoruba person I've met are as normal as could be. I've never had to feel anyhow based on tribe in Lagos. What's really happening?
This is why u shouldn’t take these online stuff to heart . People can become whatever personae they want to adopt online but they may actually be good people in real life .

Me too I do come online and I see Igbo people on nairaland post 2011 call Yoruba’s Afonja/Fulani slave / cowards etc ; yet I do not take it to heart . No Igboman I’ve met in real life has been bold enough to call me any of those derogatory words . Even if u sef go Hausa land I doubt u will be be bold or inspired enough to call them any derogatory words to their face .

Just chill and stop taking all these online stuff to heart .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:45pm On Oct 20, 2022
EmmanuelScott1:
`As surely as I live,' says the Lord, `every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God. '" So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another.

Romans 14 vs 12 grin
U dey quote bible for vawulence headquarters grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 11:43pm On Oct 20, 2022
How Xhaka went from the guy that cussed at the fans to the man being shown love by all and sundry is still a mystery

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:37pm On Oct 20, 2022
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:29pm On Oct 20, 2022
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:20pm On Oct 20, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]We can't blame Sanwo-Olu for anything that happened that day[/color]
Sanwoolu didn’t call Soldiers on those who burnt down Orile police station , he didn’t call soldiers on those who were exchanging gun fire with police officers in Mushin; yet it’s Lekki where protesters eat donuts and drink coffee , eat jollof rice and play music all day that he feels need the presence of soldiers?

U say we can’t blame him for anything that happened that day ? He miscalculated thinking show of force would disperse those guys in Lekki but didn’t know he was setting tone for non state actors to take the center stage afterwards. We all saw how it ended tho.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 11:13pm On Oct 20, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
yes he has been sacked,
Good ! Let him enter train from Birmingham to Loserpool sharp sharp. I learnt the train from Aston, Birmingham to Loserpool no pass 3 hours 30 mins .

I bid him Godspeed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick:
izzou:
[color=royalblue]A fair opinion i can accept.

Remember that the beginning of this discussion was why Lagos was the focus of Police brutality, when it happened in other states too.

Everybody remembered Lekki. Nobody remembered Ezu river.

Not fair, in my opinion[/color]
I think u are mixing things up .

The protest against police brutality happened in most states of the federation. I saw videos of the protest in Osun , Oyo , Rivers etc back then .

In Lagos it happened at Ikeja , Lekki and other parts of the state . Why Lagos state owned turned brutal was the fact that Lagos state government felt it’s had enough by first introducing non state actors into the protest; when that failed the police officers went guns blazing and orile police station was burnt on the eve of the shootings in Lekki , police men were attacked in Mushin and they exchanged gun fire with touts , etc .

Sanwoolu declared a curfew that didn’t even allow people get to their homes before it was enforced that night, the protesters chose to remain at their location knowing fully well they won’t make it home before the curfew starts and the soldiers did their thing .

On another note I still wonder why all the celebrities who were at the venue earlier that day found their way home prior to the curfew and subsequent shootings ; only for the protesters and only Dj Switch on the receiving end . I mean one of those Psquare Guys was there that day earlier , AY the comedian and so on. I believe those guys had info and were just telling people from the comfort of their house to raise flag and sing national anthem. Na why I no dey follow people do Aluta even when I was a student . I no go allow them kill the only son of my family just laidat

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