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Joezinho:
PDP should enjoy their victory..

Tinubu is clinching the whole SW..

Know this and know peace..

Na so Oasis007 dey tell us say Oyetola go win yesterday o.

raumdeuter:
If you dont like something what do you do? Leave or Stayback to sabotage them E.g you dont like Zenith Bank what do you do? Resign and join another bank or stay in Zenith Bank to sabotage them by telling Zenith customers to go to Access or manipulating their books to ensure they make losses?

A political party is not a bank na. It's more like a movement they all join hands to form na. At least we saw how Sàràkí and Co stayed in APC for as long as possible till they couldn't( and we saw the shege they showed Buhari)

Maybe Aregbe sef will still move but he's still consulting

raumdeuter:
Tinubu moved out of AD, He did not stay inside AD to sabotage the party. If you are disgruntled with the party you are free to leave but not stay within and be sabotaging them

And the party in Lagos didn't die from the after-effects of the pull-out? Maybe just the same way we have different terms for "hate" is the same way we have different terms for the word "betrayer"

izzou:
[color=royalblue]We are talking about Politics, bros. Leave governance first

Quite ungrateful for Aregbe to pull that stunt he did. The same thing PYO did (even though I liked PYO sha )

Make person no bite or forget the hand wey feed am.

If the rest part of the party decide to build their structure without TOP, it's game over.[/color]

The same thing u are accusing Aregbe of, Baba Adebanjo accused Tinubu of same concerning how they gave him Funsho Willaim'a ticket, how he later moved out of AD. The interview dey Internet.

raumdeuter:
I feel the same sentiments towards PDP. I call it hate you chose a different term

Okay, fair enough

Oasis007:


2023 is near!

U dis guy

After Oyetola Lule u don resume Batified duty sharp sharp

raumdeuter:
I feel the same way towards PDP as a party.

But u literally said u hate PDP na Ẹ̀gbọ́n

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Why you dey defend Aregbe like this?

I have this feeling you are part of his structure, or someone you know is a beneficiary [/color]

The same Aregbe I was still questioning his borrowings that has left the state his debt while I was sì using with Oasis007 this evening?

raumdeuter:
I hate PDP and no hiding about that. I have always hated the party from its inception. And with reason

You have enough materials to hate on someone like Tinubu without having to create phantom ones

Well, that's u. Me I no get enough space for my heart to hate person like u do, not even Tinubu that I don't agree to some of his ways nor APC as a party. I can always discuss about their actions I don't agree with, the policies of their government I feel has impoverished the people, the failures of Buhari's goverment and my opposition of possible handover of power to Tinubu,..... BUT hate? No, it's a strong word.

raumdeuter:
In most cases the hate is misdirected. Most of the things they blame Tinubu for by the time you dig deep you will see that it's unfounded and false

You are the last person to talk about misdirected hate egbòn. You practically referrwd to Jonathan as the one behind Boko Haram even when it is false. Haba!

You've said worse things about Jonathan than is being said about Tinubu now on this forum. The records are there na.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I didn't mean scattering the party.

The relationship between his structure and the rest has been burnt.

This can either make him, or mar him (likely the latter) [/color]

Well, the latter is what pained APC faithfuls hope, but let's wait and see what the future will bring towards Aregbe's way

larride:
Do you know Aregbe calls the shot at Alimosho with his mandate group when the structure was handed over to him? Aregbe was a mini God in Alimosho. His word is gold. Tinubu gave him free hand to do whatsoever he wants

Talk about someone else abeg, not Aregbe

Did I ever say I don't know these things? The discussion was very clear, Aregbe wants a semblance of the pier Tinubu enjoys in Lagos and he took the gamble which could've ended badly for him.

I'm sure if Oyetola had won re-election u are one of those that would've mocked Aregbe here

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Well, I think the two situations are different.

Tinubu put Aregbe there. Na the finger wey feed am be that.

Even if Aregbe wants to become Lord, no be to scatter am. [/color]

Me and u no dey their inner caucus meeting, even the party people here on nairaland are not privy to some of these guy's meetings where concessions are made and critical party decisions are made.

Aregbe has not scattered the party, he has only frustrated the ambition of the candidate he does not prefer. APC is still a very strong party in Osun State, Aregbe will definitely have his game plan. Let's wait and see.

larride:
BlueRayDick no wan hear anything Tinubu. The hate is unparalleled.

LOL

You don't even know me. I don't have enough energy to hate anybody. If I hate Tinubu of what value will the hate be to me? I'm not a card carrying member of any political party, so what will the value of Tinubu hate be to me?

Oasis007:


Put yourself in Tinubu shoe, what would you do?

Comrade I no get that kind shoe abeg.

raumdeuter:
When you don't like what the party is doing you walk out and test your popularity like Tinubu did like Adeleke did like Saraki did

Aregbe obviously doesn't have the deep pockets those guys had. He governed a poor state like Osun and would not use his stolen wealth that he's managing to fund a new party or a fairly unknown existing party. He prefers frustrating his antagonists in the party and then taking over the party afterwards. It was a dangerous gamble that could've ended worse for him had Oyetola won re-election.

I'm not holding brief for him but I'm saying it's hypocrisy when u expect him to see how Tinubu has been enjoying the post of a Godfather for years and he should miss out on an opportunity like that himself

Oasis007:
One of GAC Members.... Chief Mrs. Kemi Nelson. She died today.

Okay let me ask u something. So if the late Kemi Nelson or dem Odunbaku have something against Sanwoolu but Tinubu doesn't, u think Sanwoolu will be asked to go?

Abeg that GAC story no fly Jàre

Oasis007:
Common BlueRayDick..... you and I know left for Tinubu, Ambode would go for second term. Let's try to be honest nau.

Ambode had his issues with the party members, but the Tinubu phone call incident got him burnt. Ask anybody who knows the story they will tell u.

So u see he was getting away with the many complaint against him by the party leaders till he enter Tinubu and he was out.

larride:
In every party. There are some that holds power over others. There's a reason they are referred to as leaders.

Tinubu himself do not always get his way, did he use his own hands to scatter the party he helped formed because he didn't get his wish?

The same Tinubu that walked out of AD and formed AC which eventually killed AD?

Oasis007:


GAC is responsible for that, not Tinubu.

Which nonsense GAC? Those ones are paper tigers being controlled behind the scene ojere. Let no one deceive u, if Tinubu wants Sanwoolu impeached tomorrow, there ain't no GAC doing shiiit about it.

larride:
If anyone should be able to sacrifice anything, it should be Aregbe. He was given control of AC base in Alimosho, took him to Osun and talk with Baba Bisi Akande to hand over his structure to him in 2007 to become Gov. Even those that had reservation about his candidacy still went ahead to support him and ensured he became Gov. Immediately after his tenure, he was made a minister of the nation. Please how has the party not been fair to him?

He says he doesn't want Oyetola and that he was imposed on him, did everyone want him when Tinubu made sure everyone step down for him in 2007? Oyetola has even done 4yrs, what's hard in negotiating a deal that ensures the next candidate of the party comes from his camp?

He betrayed the party that has given him everything he has anount to politically and I hope he get whatever comes to him.

Afi betray the party náà.

The party that allows some people wield so much power while others dare not. Raumdeuter already said party politics is partisan and there's really nothing called fairness, so I guess sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

raumdeuter:
If you ask if it's a cult then it is the closest thing to a cult. It's where you drop your personal feelings and support the party.

There have been many who sacrificed for you to get where you are and you are expected to pay it forward.

You can't be playing neutral when it comes to Party politics when you are a member.

In the US most contestants after losing the ticket rally around their party nominee. We saw how Bernie Sanders rallied around the Democratic party even after it looked like he was schemed out , We saw how most Republicans rallied around their party after they won nomination

It's not about Tinubu, it's about the party. The man who won Ekiti APC ticket was not Tinubus choice but Tinubu went there to campaign for him.
Akeredolu was not Tinubus choice, It was Segun Abraham yet Tinubu went with the Party's choice and campaigned for him. There are many instances of that

You cannot be a part of the part and deviate from the wish of the party. That is tagged antiparty activities

Even in PDP, Wike Fayose Makinde even if they didn't like the choice of Atiku they have to bow to the party's wishes or get out of the party and try elsewhere.
Adeleke when he couldn't get his wish in APC he went to PDP to prove himself

Party politics is partisan. It's not for fairness. You stand by your people at all times

LOL

So Tinubu handpicking Lagos state governor is about the party and not the man's quest to hold on to power for his own interests?

Oasis007:
Osun state has one of the highest debt to revenue ratios in Nigeria. For a state with so much mineral potentials, especially Gold. The Nigerian constitution keeps the people poor by denying the people the right to their resources.

The next governor will also dance around the revenue issue until the issue of true federalism is addressed. If he attempts any more loans, Osun will become totally bankrupt. If oil prices drop and FAAC drops, he will cry hot tears. He cannot afford to balloon the workforce.

His pension liability to GDP ratio is also high, so the state must cough out pensions in addition to its huge wages. It's a fiscal conundrum...

Credit to: @fimiletoks

One day we will discuss exactly what those so called infrastructures Aregbe spent money on has generated for the state. I mean Aregbe was all over the place borrowing money all in the name infrastrucre development.

It's been over 4 years Aregbe left now, I know infrastructures are supposed to generate income or better the lives of the people in the long run, but we need to ask questions. Has anything of such happened, is it likely to happen?

I wish we have like a structured process that is responsible for auditing some of these government spendings by checking how these spendings are achieving the desired goals.

Oasis007:
Aregbe is never a Betrayal. He's a real man that knows his right from left.

APC won his Unit and LG by the way.

The thing just dey surprise me as I dey see people write stuff like "Odale balẹ kú" and all......Nigga wants to own a bakery too, he doesn't want to own a depot supplying bread to retailers.

But what exactly is it with APC in the southwest always labelling people who do not bend to their whims and caprices as betrayers? I've been seeing APC supporters on social media calling Aregbe a betrayer just like they did Osinbajo prior to the presidential primaries.

I mean I don't get! These same people acknowledged the fact that Oyetola was never Aregbe's choice in 2018. This guy wanted to have a say in choosing his successor but had no choice but to let the party leader's cousin get the ticket in a controversial manner. It was obvious Oyetola was never going to rate Aregbe since he wasnt cool with his emergence as the governor.

So fast forward to 2022, Aregbe was not having it and supported someone else who eventually lost the primary to Oyetola. Now he chose to work against Oyetola knowing his 2nd term was not going to benefit him in any way just like the the first term..... And then he's being labeled betrayer.

I mean Tinubu practically selects who becomes governor in Lagos ever since he left, but he would not allow any other person weild such power for reasons best known to him; not even Aregbe his age long ally.

Does it mean anybody that dares to dream to be a powerful person like Tinubu automatically becomes a betrayer? Shey na cult?

Oasis007:


APC Members and Supporters are congratulating Ademola Adeleke across all social media..... spirit of sportsmanship.

"In a democracy, those who cannot accept the pain of loss, do not deserve the joy of victory."

- Asiwaju Bola Tinubu.

But the outgoing governor say he still dey study the result like say na Ababio textbook

Spy360:
The way you take dey complain, you for think say na your savings dem want use pay for the players.



For me, as long as they have all the positions covered, I am good. If dem like make dem go buy more players. Though I am against a bloated squad. 30 quality players for the season is OK.

I just don't see sense in buying players that will not play. The only reason Gabriel Jesus and probably Zinchenko will be playing at arsenal next season is cos man city has enough quality players such that some do not get to play as often as they would.

Just last week people were complaining here about Arteta not integrating youngsters into the team since he resumed duty at Arsenal. If u don get 4 senior wingers e Don do no matter formation u wan play, u can always use youngsters in cup matches while resting those 4 u rotate during important matches.

chrisooblog:
Huge blow no doubt this will seriously ginger the Atiku camp. The people I don't why understand they are celebrating are the awon obidients. Despite your man showing up LP still scored dismal votes. The only place Obi will get significant votes are SE and Lagos. Northern Christian electorate would rather back Atiku that has massive structure to beat APC than Obi that they have barely had interactions with outside campaigns and politics.

If the motivation of LP members is to oust the ruling party at national level then they had better start realistically looking at PDP.

Although I still have a sneaky feeling a week to election next year Obi will drop for Atiku.

If Obi people put in work, they can do seruous damage to Atiku/Tinubu's chances of winning. They may not win, but they will make a statement, but all that depends on how they play the game going forward.

seankafor:
the speed bubu rush congratulate adeleke still dey shock me till now..

Buhari na foooolish fellow..... He no just know how to play politics at all, he won't campaign for his party members contesting for governors, he will rather sit back and watch events unfold. I'm sure most of those that gave him the platform to run in 2015(chief of which is Tinubu) have regretted their decisions ever since. Buhari na the kind person u go help with millions, but he won't assist u with 1,000 naira when money no dey Ur hand again.

Whether you like it or not, Oyetola's loss is symbolic for APC and shows they have a lot to do come 2023. Oyetola the outgoing governor is even Tinubu's cousin.

I don't understand, why do we still want to sign a winger? I read somewhere that Arsenal was interested in Sane, then I saw another update claiming we made enquiries about Wolves' Neto and Barnes of Leicester.

I'm confused, wetin we wan use all these wingers do? We get Saka and Martinelli that are favorites to start on both wings, we have deadwood Pepe that is still on our books, we just signed Maquinos, We get Nelson that also plays on the wings..... Shey we wan use all of them dress shop?

Why not just sign another striker or midfielder instead? Considering that even Jesus can still play as a winger sef.