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Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 5:44pm On Jul 08, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I already told you to ignore me because you are what I see as a walking contradiction as it is. All you have written here comes doctrines and traditions, lies, what Jesus Christ condemned as an abomination against God, the same message written of by his disciples, the same ones you spurn. You can never make sense to me. So please. for the umpteenth time ignore me and focus on manufacturing your own religious book. undecided
Lol.....you keep mentioning me and want me to avoid you. Precious things are only given to those who earnestly desire them. This won't make any sense to you now so you don't deserve this . Learn to avoid me too.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m):
cool
Kobojunkie:
But I already found the Truth of God and have been set free from bondage to sin by Him - John 8 vs 31 - 44, the one you reject. undecided
Ok
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 1:02am On Jul 08, 2021
LikeAking:
This one na big lies.

The Hebrews are Hebrews.

Why are you guys claiming those guys?
Oya go sleep. You have already conditioned yourself to remain in your ignorance. Keep sleeping!
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 7:35pm On Jul 07, 2021
LikeAking:
Nothing like generational curses.
The Hebrews of Old are Africans. That curses of Deutronomy 28 is still on hold on them. Do you have any Kjv Bible, let me reveal some things to you?
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:14pm On Jul 07, 2021
LikeAking:
Nothing like generational curses think.

Which did your fathers commit?

Do you know the sins the whites, Arabs and co committed?

Africa where it this, because this is how far our intellectual capacity can take us.
You sound like an athiests. So you won't understand. That's the way you understand it though. Cry to your Creator to show you the right way. Maybe He will open your eyes to see.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:10pm On Jul 07, 2021
LikeAking:
Rest!

U dey worsen the confusion.
Such knowledge will be too heavy for your brain to carry. Ok, I will rest.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:08pm On Jul 07, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are yapping at the wrong person still. undecided

I was not brainwashed or taught anything I know of God by any man. Only about 4 years ago, I was an atheist who set out to find out the Truth of God and by asking God Himself to teach me, I am where I am today. I don't believe in your churches or the many religious groups those of you who claim to believe in the same God have chosen to bind yourselves to and I certainly bow to no man's teachings...God is my only Teacher - Jeremiah 31 vs 34.

So again, until your group finally produces it's own "unturned" stories of the Messiah, ignore me. undecided
Oh I see. You were converted from athiests to Christianity. My advice for you is to keep seeking yourself. The truth will come to you. We were all born into Churchianity before the light shined and we saw clearly. All religion are Apostate today. All fell from the truth a long time ago. You can see it very clearly by their lifestyles and how their Mogs live which contradicts the righteous ways of the Sovereign Father. Any right thinking person will know that the Creator of heaven and earth who is holy and can't behold iniquity is not there. Keep Seeking to know the truth until you see it clearly.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 7:42pm On Jul 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Again, till you are able to find and share your book, ignore me since I am not interested in tangling with your imagination or anyone else's where God and the things of God is concerned. When you are able to provide more concrete evidence of your ideas, let me know then. All I see right now in you is another doctrine-pusher , no different from the many out there all trying to promote their Kingdom in the name of God . undecided
Lol....that is what they spoonfed you with in Christianity. What they wrote to you as Endtime was actually the time the lies the enemies of your people used to brainwash you all will be exposed. It was actually the end of all religious lies and the Revelation of the lost truth. If you have ears and eyes, hear and listen. The truth will be something that will be different from what they ever taught you in Churchianity. Avoid me too

Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:41am On Jul 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
This is all meaningless to me. I am asking you for tangible evidence of this belief of yours. undecided

You claim you believe the stories in the book have been "turned" yet you continue to quote from the very same "turned" book to support you many doctrines and traditions of men. At the same time you speak of worldly concepts as if endorsed by Almighty God Himself. All I see is someone desperate to holding on to the world and its ways at all cost. undecided

So until you find your book, ignore me. undecided
It's our book and those who know will continue to use it to correct you till the true Messiah comes to restore all things. He will correct it. Before He judges all. That's why the true gospel need to go out as a witness to all before judgement.

Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 10:38am On Jul 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1. Oh, so you dont have an "unturned" source but you freely quote from that which you claim is turned , about a Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that was never mentioned as being given to men until Jesus Christ showed up to declare it so? undecided

2. Again, you continue to quote from John's book of dreams, yet ignoring that the same John is author of the Gospel according to John where he claims to have known the same Jesus Christ He writes of as Messiah in Revelations. undecided

Whenever your religion puts together it's own book , let me know. Till then, ignore me abeg! undecided
Another Bomb!
You African are far older than those who brought you the book
The original scriptures was written in your African languages not in English
Your African languages is far older than other languages e.g Swahili is the most old and popular language in the world according to histories

How come your stories were written in Greek, Paleo Hebrew and English?
They replaced the Son of your Creator to the son of their Greek god Zeus. Whether you believe it or not, there a true Creator and their is an Impostor God ruling the world today. There is a true son of Man and an Impostor son of man who All almost call on earth today

The original scriptures is our book not your Christian books. They transliterated from our stories and it is only us the Ancient people that can tell you the truth (Isaiah 44:7). You people were told the Ancient people/first people/original people will teach you all things not your Christians teachers who fell for the half stories.

It's our book and only the chosen among us will teach all the hidden truth. So don't tell me I am quoting from your Christian book. It is our book and though the stories be turned, we will still use it to open your eyes to the truth until the Son of Man comes to correct the lies and fulfil the book.

Truth always hurt. I can see you are truly hurt so I will avoid you.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 1:30am On Jul 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
"They" did? OK, So you shouldn't have a problem then pointing me to the "unturned" story you have read out of so I can read it for myself then. undecided
Where is the original story to be found? undecided
At the right time it will show. Daniel 4:12 tells you the time the sealed book will be unsealed. It says Endtime when many will run to and fro (in a time of trouble or unrest). The true and hidden message/Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached to all who care to hear. This is what the Messiah said in Matthew 24:14 that will be preached as a Witness to ALL before the end (Rev 14:6). This is a kind of gospel different from whatever you all know cos almost all will be deceived by the wicked one even the Elect(Rev 12:9). They will all think they know but don't know they are all decieved. Take it or leave it
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:52pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I doubt you even understand what you spew at all. undecided

You hack against the Messiah but you believe in the same Messiah. You quoted from Peter's letter to Jewish Christians in exile, where He spoke clearly of Jesus Christ as his Messiah. The Book of Acts is filled with stories of the very same Messiah. [b]The Book of Revelation[/b]s, another book you quoted - which by the way contains only about 20% of that expressed in the book of Ezekiel- mentioned the Messiah enough times for anyone reading to realize the Messiah was indeed a major feature in that dream. undecided
Yet here you are trying to tell me that even though the verses you referenced point clearly to Jesus Christ, that the Messiah is someone else? undecided

Reading you post reminds of how I felt reading through the "Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas" some weeks ago. I mean desperation written in every attempt to claim Jesus Christ is only the Messiah while still pointing at Jesus Christ as the Messiah. undecided
That's why I said you won't understand. The people who transliterated your Bible are not the owners of the book. They removed the true names and turned the stories. The names you all call are not the original names of the people. See the second meme I posted earlier. They derived that name from the name of their God Zeus. Some truth I may tell you might hurt and shock you. So focus on what you know.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 10:57pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Really? undecided
Yea cos you will not understand.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 8:31pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Again....You seem to believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Acts of the Apostles, a book written by the same author of The Gospel according to Luke, which you don't seem to take too kindly to.
You believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Revelation, a compendium of John's Dream of the apocalypse, but you don't care for John's other book, the Gospel according to John. undecided

The very same Messiah that John spoke of seeing is his dreams is the one he wrote of in his gospels. undecided

4 books, only two authors. You pick to receive what is written in one and you reject what is written in the other from the same author based on what? You even wholly accept with is written in a book of dreams over the same authors account of actual events, this based on what? undecided

Are you sure I am the one deceived here? undecided
Let it be how you understand it. No time for stories.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 8:21pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You seem to believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Acts of the Apostles, a book written by the same author of The Gospel according to Luke, which you don't seem to take too kindly to.
You believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Revelation, a compendium of John's Dream of the apocalypse, but you don't care for John's other book, the Gospel according to John. undecided

4 books, only two authors. You pick to receive what is written in one and you reject what is written in the other from the same author based on what? You even wholly accept with is written in a book of dreams over the same authors account of actual events, this based on what? undecided

Are you sure I am the one deceived here? undecided
The New Testament you read are just commentaries. All including many things the Messiah said has their root in the Old testament. This is the reason they always quote the Old i.e "it is written". They all refer to the Torah. Many things in the book of Revelations are also in the Torah. Prophet Ezekiel, Isaiah etc talked about them. No where did they tell you about any Lord JC or mentioned such name. When they killed the Messiah, they also killed his disciples and after many years rewrote the book to their taste to what you follow today. The names, geography, stories were all turned and credited to others. This is a mystery you and your Christians can never understand now.

I don't have strength to argue. Many things you read in the NT are not what was truly written there. A lot were removed and added. They replaced the name of the true Messiah to Lord JC and the Creator as God. If you are the author of a book, you would not change your name for anything even if the book was translated to all languages in the world. Your enemies are the ones who brought the book to you and they knew what they did there but you Christians are still blind when their lies are very glaring.

That is all I can tell you. Continue with your Lord JC. The bible is true but a lot were turned to deceive you all. The Messiah will come first to correct these lies. Many of you will see but will not understand as Prophet Isaiah said. Many of you will see him but will not know why you keep waiting for Lord JC

Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:38pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You missed the message in his post to you. undecided

Basically, he purports that Africans are the original Israelites and that the Messiah, not Jesus Christ, is yet to arrive to free Africa from the Old Covenant curses God put on them, the "true" people of israel undecided
Keep deceiving yourself. Lord JC aka Jesus Christus is the impostor they sold to you as the Messiah 2000yrs ago. The Messiah was a Hebrew man not a greek or latin. Jesus is not a Hebrew name. He came in the name of his Father, Jesus don't even have the Father's name in it. The true identity of the Messiah was hidden and Lord JC was used to replace him. Your eyes will open one day and you will see clearly

Those who know what to do to be free, can set themselves free from the curses. That's what I meant. Many are blind, cursed, in bondage, deaf, oppressed etc and can't be free today for many reasons. And these are very glaring that you can see them around you. When the true Messiah comes not your impostor Lord JC, all will be freed provided they are pure in heart.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:17pm On Jul 05, 2021
iykbethany:
Jesus died on the cross of calvary for a purpose so these old lawss no longer apply.

At Job 34:10-12, the Bible says that it is unthinkable for the true God to act wickedly.

Also note what James 1:13 says: "When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.
You are very funny. The Messiah didn't die on cross, He was lynched, murdered, slewed on a tree (Acts 5:30; 1 Peter 2:24) cos they thought he would establish his Kingdom on earth in that era. This was exactly what they did to many Africans who rise up to save their people like Gaddaffi and others. He didn't die for your sins in that era. The thieves who transliterated the bible are those who assumed it to be so. You still struggle with sin. There are even sins we commit that we don't even have knowledge of, that's why we need to confess our sins everyday cos we don't know where we might have erred. His death saved those in heaven not earth (Rev 12:10). Many of you Christians don't understand how the Bible was written, neither do you understand what was removed or added.

The Messiah never abolished the laws his father gave Moses. Words that came out from the Father's mouth. His words are yea and Amen. It never returned void . The Messiah was the Word and Law that was given to the children of Isreal via Moses. By the time the Messiah came in the flesh , they have corrupted it with many man made doctrines. The Messiah came to fulfil what was written of him. As the Law, he came to simply, abrogate it to what it really was. He came to remove the burdens in the laws given to Moses by his Father. The law was not abolished or done away. You will be judged by law (Matt 7:21-22). The will of his father is His Father's commandments. Sin is the transgression of the law. When you go against the law, you are a sinner!

Our Creator is not wicked. If you go against His commandments, you will be punished or die. The wages of sin is death (Rom 6:23) (what they wrote as death was actually a cut off from Him).

Trials, Tests, Troubles are what your Creator use to test your faith to know if you are capable. He only works with a strong person. If you don't write tests and exams, you can't graduate. James 1:2,12; 1Peter 5:10; Rom 12:12
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:58am On Jul 05, 2021
And if you are told why the Pinks are not affected by curses now, you will call me a Racist. The truth is that you are the original people of the book and your Bible stories all happened in Africa. This is already clear for those who have eyes to see. That's why the curses affect you

The curses of Deutronomy 28 is still on hold on Africans. They departed from the LAWS YHWH gave them for foreign religions and ways not cast up

When the Messiah was on earth people suffer for the sins of their fathers (John 9:2). Today many are still suffering from such curses. All religion are Apostate today and many can't seek their Creator for themselves and do what is lawful to be free.

We are Africans and our Ancestors did a lot of evil when they fell from the true way. They can offend someone and the person may enter a covenant with the devil to inflict their generation with curses. You see a family where about 4 children are blind or deaf. There are families that no one can get to 40yrs and many more. So if you say people are not suffering from generational curses in Africa, lay one hand on your head and the other on your eyes and tell your Creator to give you sense and also open your eyes to see clearly.

It's only the Messiah that can free all from these curses at his coming. Some people can do it themselves and their are also righteous men who can do it but the Messiah is the only one that can properly do it when He comes.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Was Not A Christian And Didn't Find Christianity by bobestman(m): 6:27pm On Jul 04, 2021
The letter J is not up to 500yrs ago and these things happened 2000 plus years ago
He was never called Jesus and other fabrications. No one named Jesus did what you read in the New Testament.

He was not a Churchian or Christian. The people of Antioch assumed them to be Christians (Acts 11:26) but his disciples or followers are of the Sect of the Nazarenes (Acts 24:5). Paul was their leader. They are very zealous in keeping YHWH's commands unlike Christians who teach that the laws are abolished.
He didn't establish any Church where ppl come to collect tithes and offerings. Him and his disciples were known for taking their teachings to the people. They are the ones who provided for the poor and hungry

Their teaching was based on Righteousness to anyone who care to listen. You hear and do likewise. They dont dictate to people which place or Church to go and worship unlike Christians who will preach to you and tell you their Church is the only road to heaven

His teaching on prayer is to shut your doors and windows in your home and pray in secret to a secret father who is everywhere unlike Christians who shout at the top of their voice and disturb the peace of mind of others as if the Creator can't hear.

He didn't accept titles like Daddy GO, Pope, Pastor, Bishop, Rev Father etc unlike Churchians
He kept the Passover and other Hebrew Feasts not Christmas, Easter, Birthdays and others unlike Churchians. Maybe I should stop here

Many things you people teach and do is contrary to what the Messiah taught.
Christianity Etc › Re: Series Of Dreams by bobestman(m): 3:28pm On Jul 02, 2021
Kingsolar:
Thank you
First of all I am a Catholic member n the time these dreams starting coming I was still attending my Catholic church n I never for ones took David oyedapo as my spiritual father, n I wasn't even the everytime church going type. The first time I saw him he told me he was going to change the name of living faith to another name to which I saw the name boardly written in capital letters. Secondly he came n I was taken high above the ground with him n we were on a tall substance where I was finding where I can put my feet on the ground but I couldn't. The third time he only appeared to me but I couldn't hear what he was saying. Another dream was where I saw alter boys carrying monstrance followed along were priests and at the back was the shout of bishop coming to which I don't know which bishop, there was shout of give way bishop is coming, bishop is coming and when we enter the church I saw myself sitting behind the bishop and some else was sitting besides him. This recent dream happened on the night of after my baptism that same day. I was sleeping then this dream came where I was discussing with the man present and after I finished telling him everything, I now asked him of whom I am n he replied me telling me that I am the last to come before Christ. And he said he was going to give me a phone number that I should call the number to confirm to which he did but when I woke up I forgot the phone number and he was like I should look at him, that he doesn't have a wife. I only came here for answers not making things up.
You are receiving interpretation from someone who don't believe in dreams or anything spiritual. Who also don't know that we are in endtime and a time many will dream dreams and see visions to warn them of what is coming.

Your fellow Churchians will help you interpret it. I am not a Churchian.
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 2:11pm On Jul 02, 2021
calebbintus:
They are spiritually blind. Look at this Bishop man here just quoting scriptures, talking about Salvation. Someone that does not understand the History of what was given to him. And had it been the earth had more time, he will teach his generation same error like his forefathers m and his children will not know that he once heard the true gospel but refused to listen. They will now later say God is unfair.
You are very correct. They all hate history not knowing that our Creator commanded us to go into history and learn from our ancestors. It was also written not to remove the ancient landmark set by our Fathers. The Bereans were commended for searching out everything they were taught to know if it is true or not. They hate to search things out cos they know it will expose their religion

Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 1:09pm On Jul 02, 2021
calebbintus:
Unfortunately they won't. Because the Angel quoted there is a human being. Revelation 22:16 I Yeshua have sent *mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches... The Lord referring to John as Angel

Also Revelation 21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, [/b]according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.[b]
Man as Angel.

There are human beings carrying divine messages on earth already(Not the fake Jesus pastors around) . And many people will miss it thanks to the fake pastors.
Had been quoting that verse but no one understand it here. Those angel are man/men/women that will go out by the power of the spirit to teach ALL the true message that everyone must believe or perish not the lies handover to Christians
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 1:01pm On Jul 02, 2021
calebbintus:
I understand your reservation about Yeshua. -Yahushua the Messiah, I was born a Christian under Jesus, but he who called me to himself: Has no reservations against Yeshua. The Jesus many worship some of us have seen it. A terrible now defeated Beast. Has nothing to do with Yeshua. I really pity Christians, I only thank God for his Mercies; It is people like us that understand Predestination,Grace. Saying no more
Yea many has seen him in his real form. That is why they always present him as being white. The name is also same as that of a greek god which also something they should look into. But many of them have eyes but can't see.
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 12:24pm On Jul 02, 2021
calebbintus:
If only you know that Yeshua is the Son of God the Messiah and Jesus is the Anti Messiah/Anti Christ. A devilish being introduced into the scriptures. I hope you have not surrendered your life to him nor been Baptised in that Jesus Name. If you have...Toor
That's why I do my best to warn them but since the name had sink into their sub-concious mind and they see signs and wonders with it, they will never believe. The reason I leave them the way they understand things. Something will happen that will help them understand all these things. Yeshua too is just very close but not the real. Everyone will listen to true gospel when the time comes (Rev 14:6).
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 4:23pm On Jul 01, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
You don't understand the thing

Jesus is Greek name which has a meaning

The meaning is the Savior

Ọkpara Chineke in igbo also means the Savior

The first son to save us
Hahaha Ok. That should be Yeshua/Yahushua and other paleo Hebrew names which exactly fits in. Yah- shua not the other way round. God's Salvation. Have heard you though
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 2:48pm On Jul 01, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
God =Chineke

Son of God Jesus =Ọkpara Chineke
Good. But Jesus is the name those who stole your book gave you. It's of them and very coded that many of you Christians won't understand.
These are some names the Messiah called himself and the true meanings are in your tongues
Light of God to the world = IhechiUwa/ Ifechiuwa. Ihesiaba
Man from above or Emmanuel = Mmanu Ele. God Man. Mmanu is man. Ele is the ancient name of the Sovereign Father many of you Igbos have forgotten today. And it is what you see in names like SamuEL, Elezah(God answered) and in your Bible the exact meaning of Eliezer is where God answered and it's same in Igbo. BethEL. EzekiEL etc it could be El, Eli but the original was Ele. Even Yorubas call him ELEdumare.
Jesus is an European fabrication. It has no meaning in any of your tongues. You can't get the root meaning like the ones I gave you above. Will leave it the way you understand.
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 2:13pm On Jul 01, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
What if I told you I call Jesus in my own language will you be satisfied or will you still complain

The borne of contention is you can call God, Jesus in any language you want yet you still want to argue people are not allowed to do it says who are you the one who degreed it
And if I ask you to tell me the names now?
Well it's Ok. We will understand when the time comes.
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 12:25pm On Jul 01, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
False teachings from u

Now let assume you are correct in your own thinking and let check from Bible study

Now let look at it from Bible view

God made language

In each language he put his name in them

If your language can translate what Jesus means then you can call him that

Call God on your language he will answer u

God is not limited by Hebrew or Greek or any language
Do you call him in your language when you use Jesus and God in all your prayers?
Do you even know that your African languages is far older than the English and greek they put the names for you?
Do you know that the original names of God and Jesus were first in your African languages before they came and put everything in their languages and make you see your own and traditions as evil.

There is no time to argue cos at the right time all these will be made clear to all.
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 1:39am On Jul 01, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
You are not from God
God and Jesus are not the original name of the Father and Son. Go find out their names in Hebrew first. God and Jesus are names those who transliterated the book want you to call them. It's not even equivalent to their true Hebrew names. When you call them such names you break one of the laws coz you are calling the Creator a vain name

Some of your Christian friends also disagreed with you on this same issue. They are not from God too right?
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 4:23pm On Jun 30, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
If you won't read all of them then English is really hard for you
Lol....I know your brain has been conditioned to believe that your Jesus is God and you have also backed it up with evidence from the bible but these things are very glaring even to a kid. A Son can't be equal with or greater than his Father. Let it be the way you understand though. Have read it. Read mine and understand it too. All you are arguing about is in the future.
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 2:40pm On Jun 30, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Philippians 2:5-6 “You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.”

John 17:21 “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”

John 1:18 “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.“

Colossians 2:9-10 “For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.“

John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.“

. John 5:18 “This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.“

John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.“

John 1:14 “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.“

1 John 5:20 “And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.“

Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

(i am He) note this is God name in old testament when he told Moses see it bellow

John 8:57-58 “The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”

John 8:22-24 “This made the Jews ask, “Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come’?” But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.

24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”

John 13:18-19 “I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill this passage of Scripture: ‘He who shared my bread has turned against me.’ “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.

Isaiah 44:6 “Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.”

1 Corinthians 8:6 “Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.”

. Revelation 2:8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.“

Revelation 1:17-18 “When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.“

Only God can be worshiped. Jesus was worshiped.

Matthew 2:1-2 “After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

Matthew 28:8-9 “So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.“

Jesus is prayed to revealing that He is God
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. Acts 7:59-60 “And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.“

Matthew 28:19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”


. 2 Corinthians 13:14 “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.”

John 20:27-28 “Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Peter 1:1 “Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.“

Acts 20:28 “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.“

John 10:30 “The Father and I are one.”


Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter is established

Now count how many witnesses above have established Jesus is God over twenty
You still don't understand. One of the verses you quoted says "though He was God but considered himself not..."
This alone is telling you he never take that title or considered himself equal with the Father.
Another verse says the Servant is not greater than the master.
Another verse gave us a hierarchy = The Father- Messiah - Man - Woman
He was created by the Father and the Father is the one who gave him that title or called him that. Just like a father calling his beloved son beautiful names. But you know the truth that the same Father created him and is above him. Saying he is one with the father means He hears from the Father and enjoy a union with him in heaven by always being beside him

Also all Spirits are gods and are honored by some ppl. The devil is a God to some people. So the Messiah is also same and can also qualified to be called a God. He never allowed that cos He respects his father or head and that title belong to Him alone. It is those who transliterated your Bible that put those things there. Many things you read in the New Testament apart from the teachings of the Messiah and the book of Revelation to some extent were turned or manipulated by the powers that be. Many are words of men not the Creator. Many of them wrote according to their understanding too.

Let me also put it this way, if you are a great King on earth and have a son you loved so much. All will honor him cos of you. If he wants to make any important decision, he consults the Father first. Here, he is making the Father(you) above him. If you decide to give him a kingdom to rule and make him the King, He now can make decisions by himself. This is what happens at endtime when the Messiah becomes the King over all

We will all worship him when He gather his people here on earth and become the King of Kings. The Creator will give him power over man and spirits that all will bow to him. For now, He is a humble Saviour who puts the Father above him and seek to fulfil all written about him. After all these will He establish his Kingdom on earth and rule as our King.

Many of you Christians will start a prayer with Jesus and end with Jesus without given the Father any glory. That's what happen when you call the Son God. The Father makes no sense to you again. The irony of it all is that the Son and Messiah never goes by that name you ppl call him
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 11:52am On Jun 30, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Read my past post it explains all

https://www.nairaland.com/6621422/everyone-earth-see-jesus-last
The Post is talking about Rapture and has nothing to do with this post.
And I am asking you....Do you know the meaning of Rapture?
It doesn't mean what you Christians think but very close. My comment above was written cos you are giving the Messiah a title he never accept or called himself - God(as you ppl call Him)

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