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Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 1:39am On Jul 01, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
You are not from God
God and Jesus are not the original name of the Father and Son. Go find out their names in Hebrew first. God and Jesus are names those who transliterated the book want you to call them. It's not even equivalent to their true Hebrew names. When you call them such names you break one of the laws coz you are calling the Creator a vain name

Some of your Christian friends also disagreed with you on this same issue. They are not from God too right?
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 4:23pm On Jun 30, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
If you won't read all of them then English is really hard for you
Lol....I know your brain has been conditioned to believe that your Jesus is God and you have also backed it up with evidence from the bible but these things are very glaring even to a kid. A Son can't be equal with or greater than his Father. Let it be the way you understand though. Have read it. Read mine and understand it too. All you are arguing about is in the future.
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 2:40pm On Jun 30, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Philippians 2:5-6 “You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.”

John 17:21 “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”

John 1:18 “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.“

Colossians 2:9-10 “For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.“

John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.“

. John 5:18 “This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.“

John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.“

John 1:14 “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.“

1 John 5:20 “And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.“

Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

(i am He) note this is God name in old testament when he told Moses see it bellow

John 8:57-58 “The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”

John 8:22-24 “This made the Jews ask, “Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come’?” But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.

24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”

John 13:18-19 “I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill this passage of Scripture: ‘He who shared my bread has turned against me.’ “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.

Isaiah 44:6 “Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.”

1 Corinthians 8:6 “Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.”

. Revelation 2:8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.“

Revelation 1:17-18 “When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.“

Only God can be worshiped. Jesus was worshiped.

Matthew 2:1-2 “After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

Matthew 28:8-9 “So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.“

Jesus is prayed to revealing that He is God
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. Acts 7:59-60 “And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.“

Matthew 28:19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”


. 2 Corinthians 13:14 “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.”

John 20:27-28 “Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Peter 1:1 “Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.“

Acts 20:28 “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.“

John 10:30 “The Father and I are one.”


Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter is established

Now count how many witnesses above have established Jesus is God over twenty
You still don't understand. One of the verses you quoted says "though He was God but considered himself not..."
This alone is telling you he never take that title or considered himself equal with the Father.
Another verse says the Servant is not greater than the master.
Another verse gave us a hierarchy = The Father- Messiah - Man - Woman
He was created by the Father and the Father is the one who gave him that title or called him that. Just like a father calling his beloved son beautiful names. But you know the truth that the same Father created him and is above him. Saying he is one with the father means He hears from the Father and enjoy a union with him in heaven by always being beside him

Also all Spirits are gods and are honored by some ppl. The devil is a God to some people. So the Messiah is also same and can also qualified to be called a God. He never allowed that cos He respects his father or head and that title belong to Him alone. It is those who transliterated your Bible that put those things there. Many things you read in the New Testament apart from the teachings of the Messiah and the book of Revelation to some extent were turned or manipulated by the powers that be. Many are words of men not the Creator. Many of them wrote according to their understanding too.

Let me also put it this way, if you are a great King on earth and have a son you loved so much. All will honor him cos of you. If he wants to make any important decision, he consults the Father first. Here, he is making the Father(you) above him. If you decide to give him a kingdom to rule and make him the King, He now can make decisions by himself. This is what happens at endtime when the Messiah becomes the King over all

We will all worship him when He gather his people here on earth and become the King of Kings. The Creator will give him power over man and spirits that all will bow to him. For now, He is a humble Saviour who puts the Father above him and seek to fulfil all written about him. After all these will He establish his Kingdom on earth and rule as our King.

Many of you Christians will start a prayer with Jesus and end with Jesus without given the Father any glory. That's what happen when you call the Son God. The Father makes no sense to you again. The irony of it all is that the Son and Messiah never goes by that name you ppl call him
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 11:52am On Jun 30, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Read my past post it explains all

https://www.nairaland.com/6621422/everyone-earth-see-jesus-last
The Post is talking about Rapture and has nothing to do with this post.
And I am asking you....Do you know the meaning of Rapture?
It doesn't mean what you Christians think but very close. My comment above was written cos you are giving the Messiah a title he never accept or called himself - God(as you ppl call Him)
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Study JESUS 10 Commandments and what Bible says about sabbath by bobestman(m): 11:08am On Jun 30, 2021
The Messiah never equal himself with the Father in any way. He came to do His will and put him first in everything he does. He never called himself God(as you ppl call him). He never demanded Worship exalt himself as God. That is sin against the law that brought Lucifer down. The Messiah can't make same mistake Lucifer made. Stop teaching what you don't know. If you are reading John 1:1 then consult the original Hebrew test for the meaning. The Messiah is the WORD of God - one of his true names (Rev 19:13). He is the word that comes out from the father. The same word that was made flesh and born on earth. The Messiah on earth or in heaven will never take the same title with his Father.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would God Kill Jesus Not The Devil? by bobestman(m): 10:44am On Jun 30, 2021
None of you Christians understand the book you read and love so much. None of you even understand the story of creation. Many things you read in your Bible didn't exactly happened the way you read it. They are in codes and usually have another interpretation. You people are told that the Ancients or the original people of the book will teach you all things (Isaiah 44:7) but you Christians have exalted yourselves as the ppl of the book claiming you know everything when you had no real encounter as the prophets and teachers of old. Neither were you commission by the Spirit like Prophet Ezekiel and others to go forth and teach. Go forth and teach all...are for those who have the spirit of the Sovereign Father and had true encounter with him like the one they wrote as Paul, Ezekiel, Isaiah etc Things you read, you don't understand their secret meanings, names you call the Creator and his son are not the true Hebrew names. You are breaking the law by calling them a vain name that is not their original Hebrew names. Everyday you guys quarrel and fight yourselves for things non of you understand, innerstand and overstand.
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 7:51pm On Jun 29, 2021
KingOKON:
How is that any of your bloody concern, is that not the reason Ojukwu wanted Biafra and Ironsi destroyed the regional government?
Men mind your bizness, we know how to get what is ours
Ok
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 2:04pm On Jun 29, 2021
KingOKON:
Elder what?
Our resources and that we have been seeking resource control all by our selves
Tell that to the Northerners that control most of the resources in your land
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 11:23am On Jun 29, 2021
KingOKON:
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Criminals YESTERDAY TODAY and 4ver
I feel your pain. The main thieves are in your land, robbing you off your resources not your elder brothers.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would God Kill Jesus Not The Devil? by bobestman(m): 1:47pm On Jun 28, 2021
Christian and their confusion
Your Pastors and Churches quarel, jealous, hate and claim superiority among themselves
You also do the same thing among yourselves
You all claim to have the Holy Spirit, understand the bible and see visions
Can't you guys see the handwriting on the wall....the true Creator is not the author of confusion and can never behold all these sins among you. He is not among you

The Creator never killed the Messiah.
The Messiah never died for your sins. You sins remain yours until you decide to repent. Even if you believe he died for your sin, you can't still stop sinning. The idea of saving you all from your sins is in the future when he will reconcile his ppl(Isaiah 11:11-13) and rule as their King and give all a pure heart. He was Murdered or lynched cos they taught he will establish his Kingdom in his first coming and rule all with a rod of iron which is his laws (Psalm 2:9; Rev 12:5). They killed him to stop his mission of reconciling the lost tribes with those he met in Judah (Matt 15:24). Rev 12:10 and 12 clearly told you who his death saved. The idea of him dying on earth was for him to go back to heaven and join the war as the sacrifice that was offered to defeat the devil and throw him down. This was why he once told his disciples that he saw the devil falling. He will go there to defeat him and his angels. That was why he died on earth but Christians interpreted it as dying for their sins. Those who were on earth were told that the devil comes to torment them. There salvation from sins and the devil depends on the return of the Messiah on earth to destroy his enemies and establish his Kingdom. When you sin, you confess them and ask for forgiveness and you will be forgiven. The story that he died for your sins is a man made doctrine. You are the one who sinned and should beg for forgiveness. No one died for your sins. He will free all from sin when He returns. Take that to your bank. That is the raw truth.
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 9:10am On Jun 28, 2021
donnie:
Leave Yoruba and talk to me in your language Igbo.
Ok
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 12:12am On Jun 28, 2021
donnie:
The histories are Veeeery important so the people repent as Isaële, not as just another idolatrous Christian. There is no righteousness without acknowledging who you really are. Righteousness is beyond not stealing or telling lies. It's the ability to identify satan in the earth and resist his works. Only by this truth can you have light. The info may be incomplete, but it doesn't mean it's a lie. Only when HE returns will we have full and absolute knowledge.

I didn't send myself.... And I'm not just another excited individual sharing info on the internet.
Naso everybody dey talk. Mo ti So fuen oo
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 9:07pm On Jun 27, 2021
donnie:
Nice. But to us it's from Bana-Beytu meaning son of the house. This is also Hebrew. (Bane meaning Son, Beyt meaning house).
That Hebrew they teach in Diaspora is fake. True Hebrew is your local languages � Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw etc all were one before. Let me leave it that way

It also Abantu meaning the people, or the Father's people. Aba meaning they/these or Father/master and ntu meaning people. Therefore referring to a special people, the people of YAH, the divine people.


I like the story, especially the part that has to do with Aron (Aro) because he was a companion of Moses and must have migrated from Egypt along with Moses.
We are older than those stories. Didn't tell you the true stories in your Bible.


Okay I don hear
They are everywhere.

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Yesterday I was chatting with someone and tried to show him some things in a dream or vision somehow but the person is doubting. My spirit told me it was you cos I called your name. Now you see ....

You know I don't teach anything like this. I only tell people to live right cos their is a time all these will be corrected. There is a lot I know but can't say.

Be careful with many things you teach. Righteousness is the key here not histories cos many are lies
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 7:20pm On Jun 27, 2021
donnie:
I understand the similar origin you speak of. But why can't you do without the name Igbo? What will happen to you if you don't call yourself Igbo? Ok, now imagine how others feel when pressured to forsake their unique identities, names etc and settle with Igbo.
This is not time to hide anything. Say the truth and leave it that way. Do you want me to call myself what I am not? When I say Igbo, it's like you saying Bantu, all referring to all blacks. I tell you from the root.
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 7:09pm On Jun 27, 2021
You are trying with the history but I tell you that they are just 20% truth. The true stories are not written in book of history. The power that be turned everything upside down. Have told you that there are ppl who will correct all these and unite you all. When Igbos fell into Amnesia, some of them went out and start calling themselves Bantus. Bantu is an Igbo word. Same with every language on earth today.
Baa - follow
Ntu - the law
Follow the law. What you call as the ppl of the book today

When the Igbos fell those ppl went out and continue as the ppl of the book. They too are Igbos.
Am not telling you many things cos you believe so much in your histories. The rightful descendants of Aaron who are the Priests are the Aro- Chukwus of Abia state. Many of your biblical stories happened in the SE. Many who will champion this endtime things are from the Igbos. And they all are awake today. There are many things they know that the world have not heard.
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 6:32pm On Jun 27, 2021
donnie:
I hope you don't get offended when Benin says you are all Binis since you once lived with them. Or if Yorubas say you are all Yorubas since you migrated with them.

Those of the ancient kingdom of KONGO can even say you are all KONGOs which will even make a lot of sense as there are maps which suggest that all of the land of Israel was called KONGO and bordered by a mountain range called the Mountains of KONG. In the maps below, just above the pink lining, you will see written, Mountague di Kong referring to Mountains of KONG.
KONGO=Congregate=Kingdom=United etc. Many bantus refer to the archangel that led their ancestors to their kingdom as KONGO.

The point is, right from bible days, the Most High gave each of the sons of Yakubi/Jacob their distinct identity even though the had similar culture, laws etc. They had different totems. Eg. Lion for Juda, Serpent for Dan, Donkey for Issachar etc. They even spoke different languages with different intonations.


Even if the origin of man is in Igbo land, it doesn't automatically mean that the occupants were the Igbo speaking people we have there today. Because before ever the nation of Isaële/Jacob was born, there were people living on the continent. If you say the Igbo language is much older than what we call Bantu languages, I can say, so is Yoruba... afterall, both languages have many similarities. There are many English, Latin and Greek words that were borrowed from Yoruba and other Bantu languages.
You still don't understand. You all were one and together before just like in Babel before the divisions. You see Igbos as the only ppl in SE but I tell you all black Mmanu all over the world are. This is not time to feel for people. Whether you tell the truth or not, it will soon be glaring. And what you see as Biafra is actually Igbo Nation for all.
Christianity EtcRe: NSIBIDI: Why Igbos Should Respect Their Neighbors by bobestman(m): 4:18pm On Jun 27, 2021
Have told you that Igbo is not limited to the South East alone. What you call Bantus today is what they call Igbos in ancient times. It was once the general name for all black Mmanu. The first Mmanu was Igbo and it all began in SE. You all were all over the South and some North and all have something they are good in. All your languages are all Olu Igbo. You all today speak different version of Igbo(you will call it Bantu). Know one is stealing anything. That is how you all were before.

Another group of Igbos said the Nsibidi was given to the Igbos by the 4 Archangels and that was why the 4 market days in Igbo land is similar to their names
Micheal- Mekel- Ekelu- Eke
Uriel-Orie-elu- Orie
Raphael- Aforelu- Afor
Gabriel -Ngorbirielu- Gobriel- Nkwo/Ngo
They are very close if you look well. And their is a true story about it

All Hi-stories and research works only have 20% truth. A teacher will come first to correct all these things and all must listen to him.
We are all Igbos before we became whatever today. This is not pride or bragging. It was once so. The person who wrote that thing is confused.
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Everyone On Earth Will See JESUS At The Last Day by bobestman(m): 3:12pm On Jun 27, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
We know all things because we are in Christ
Ok.
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Everyone On Earth Will See JESUS At The Last Day by bobestman(m): 11:48pm On Jun 26, 2021
You all should keep decieving yourselves.
Modern day Pharisees and Sadducees who are never called but are exalting themselves as Teachers of what they don't know the true stories and origin
And when the true message and true Messiah comes (Rev 18:1-2;14:6; Mathew 24:14) many of you will abandon both and keep waiting for the impostor Messiah and that is how many will be deceived � Rev 12:9 �
Christianity EtcRe: God's Moral Law, The 10 Commandments, Existed Even From The Garden Of Eden. by bobestman(m): 10:41am On Jun 24, 2021
Hmmm Teachers everywhere
The Law had been in the heart of man and engraved in his mind via Freewill since creation. This is why you feel bad when you do evil and wish to repent like Cain when he killed his brother. You are also happy and have Peace with your Creator when you do good like Abel.

Books didn't give you the law first, it was first engraved in your heart. The Creator gave man the right to choose between good and evil. Life and death. Man choosed death by eaten from a tree he was told not to eat from. He was given a law, a right and a wrong but he choosed the wrong. He broke the law and brought death to all. Sin is the transgression of the Law and the Soul that sinneth shall die.

So the Law was since Adam but in our heart before they gave you books. And when all is said and done, you will no longer need books. We go back to the begining as in Paradise when it will be written in our hearts.
Christianity EtcRe: Nigeria Is About To Be Reborn. The Cleansing Process Has Commenced! by bobestman(m): 5:57pm On Jun 22, 2021
danny56:
Exactly how many important event in Bible keep fulfilling and many remain in thick darkness asking why why why question. See, even you too will find where to hide your head when it starts. You don't deserves an answer until then. huh
That we know cos the the new Nation is for all those who will remain after the troubles. From here it goes all over. Everyone will run for their lives. I have tried opening people's eyes to what this land called Nigeria was but many keep looking up to Isreal. And again, it's not by any religion but by one's Righteousness.
Those who are truly called for what is coming have not been mandated to say a thing till that time. Any dream or vision given to any is to warn them personally to prepare. Many things were hidden from us and all these things will be revealed too.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Muslims Face A Particular Direction While Praying? by bobestman(m): 11:40pm On Jun 21, 2021
He has humbled you with your own bible. All religion had their day and all have their faults. The Koran has more authentic details on biblical names and some stories than the Christian Bible cos all were copied from one source. This is because the Muslim Koran left things in the language they were given but the Christian bible had been translated many times and the true names are not what is there today.

You all were one before the confusion and corruption started. All has fell today but don't know. The Son of Man must come first to restore things how it was before many of you will understand these things.

The people of the King of heaven were put in the West to East location of the world. From one end of the earth to another and Jerusalem was in their midst. All Hebrews pray towards that direction and you can confirm with the bible references he gave you before the corruptions set in.

Though all fell and need correction but you Christians are still full of pride. Many of you think everything works only thru your religion but don't know that their are many errors there.
Christianity EtcRe: Nigeria Is About To Be Reborn. The Cleansing Process Has Commenced! by bobestman(m):
First tell God as you people call him to show you what the entire land called Nigeria was in Pre-historic times. If you can get the answer then you are good. You have not seen the falsities in your religion, you don't know what Nigeria was and why it will undergo the Sanitation but you just want a New Nigeria.

You got Nigeria, when a foreigner came and saw people doing well in their various lands, told them they are not living well and forcefully married them together without their consent. Will your God support such? I tell you, this is the root of Nigeria's problems.

And I asked again
Why is the Fulanis Surrounding SE and some SS?
Why are Fulanis sent in large masses to Southern Nigeria ?
Why is your President a Fulani and have never condemn his people?
Why are Fulanis ruling a nation that's not theirs and true people of that nation are under their feet?
These Fulanis know their history and ready to stand by it to the end. They know what will happen and they should do but you Southerners know nothing about your histories. You people are still following foreign religion that put you people in what you are in today.

And I tell you again, majority of the things you read in your Bible happened in this same land. After the Sanitation comes a New Nation and it is not Nigeria but the true name in ancient times.
Christianity EtcRe: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by bobestman(m): 2:42pm On Jun 20, 2021
Emvico34:
U say? Abiara are u sure u hear from God? How can u associate urself with such a man? Many are in hell wailing and gnashing their teeth because of his misleading messages and u are still calling him ur son. Pls stop listening to tb josua's messages if u want to make heaven
I weep for your ignorance. Are you the one who sent the late Man and other unbelievers to hell?
You can't even spot the lies in your religion. While one of your father's see him in hell, others see him in heaven
One see him as a good Mog, others see him as an evil man. Can't you see that the true Creator is not among you cos he is not the author of confusion.
Your Mogs are not telling you the truth about hell and heaven. They understand nothing about it. The visions they claim to see about hell and heaven aren't true.

And my question for you is that if truly these people are going to either hell or heaven, who are those who will resurrect from their graves at the blast of the Trumpet?
Both good and bad will resurrect for judgement on the last day. Who will judge them and throw them in hell or heaven while it's not yet the last day for judgement?
Ok will they be sent to hell when they die and on the last day, they will come out and receive judgement and be thrown again into hell?
The devil has not been judged too and so is not in any hell. He is still roaming about deceiving people. He will be judged first and thrown into hell before others will follow. That's how they wrote it in your Bible

You Christian don't understand the concept of hell and heaven so the deceiver is using it to give you guys false visions
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholicism Is Idolatry And True Christianity Is Gnosis by bobestman(m): 1:58pm On Jun 20, 2021
hakym619:
Una get sense so ?

Dwelling on writings by men.
They're even talking as if they witnessed these incidents.
My brother thank you. That's why I have left the ignorant poster to his understanding. They can only tell what they saw in books that have only quarter truth. Your enemies will delete whatsoever truth they know about you, whitewash it and put in books for you so you will start fighting yourselves about the lie they gave you. The truth is still hidden!You can talk about all civilization including Ghana and Songhai but what of the one in Southern Nigeria where life began and all migrated out of? They didn't leave any trace for you, so it's a lie in your mind.

I tell you, everything you ever seek was in Southern Nigeria where it all started. In that East of that land was the land of Gold. There was a time everything in their houses was of Gold. From there was the first man. And from there all humans came. You can't get these from any book

And to the poster, that land is your Motherland and where the original Eden or promised land dwell. The first must always be the last. Everything you have outside was recreated from what they saw here.

Continue with your fake stories that is not even up to half truth. I had told you Op that your Crib is where your ancestors were taken from. They are far older than whatever you learnt in exile and will tell you truth. You can't know more than your ancestors. Whether you are the tribe of Mary Magdalene or whatever that's your concern, there are still tribes that were hidden and will be revealed this endtime. I don't dwell in your Hi-stories. Many things I tell you are the truth. Stop teaching what they gave you in books that you have no knowledge of cos everyone will be called that day to defend every lies they teach .

And stop the Mentions
Christianity EtcRe: Attitude Of Some Deeper Lifers(workers Including Pastors) by bobestman(m):
I was born there too. It's was my Church before I left Churchianity and their confusions. Many things you said were true cos the people think that with much suffering they will make heaven and so they don't attach much importance to material things. They care but don't Love

These days many of them have seen how other churches are doing things to keep their members. You have to help them with their needs so you don't lose them to other Churches - I call it Church Code 101. There are many of them who still help. I am still connected to my friends there even though I left the Church many years ago. The problem is that your Pastor.

I recently met a long time friend in the Church on facebook. He promised to help me on something. When he found out that I no longer attend the Church, he refused to help. He has also not talked to me for over a year now cos I no longer go their Church.

Religion will not save anybody
You can be spiritual by studying yourself and praying in your home as the Messiah taught
The Messiah is not a pastor of pastors
Bishop of bishops
Iman of Imams
Pope of Popes
But
King of Kings
A King rule everyone irrespective of what they believe but they must obey his commands, rules, laws or be dealt with.
Many don't even know that he is not even a Christian or had anything do with your Religions
All He wanted people to do is to obey his rules, laws which if one fully obey, he can become righteous and therefore eternal life is sure.

Someone will have 100naira and see a poor and hungry man but will refuse to give him cos he wants to use it as offering. Is that right in your eyes? Now you will want to go to your heaven cos you give to a God you don't know while you expect the man to be in your immaginary hell cos he didn't believe you or go to your Church you invited him to. Learn from the Good Samaritan. It's not by religion but righteousness, love, humility and good works

Wake up from religion cos the day it will be exposed, many will weep. Don't be carried away by miracles and the love you think you have for yourselves
Christianity EtcRe: Old Testament 10 Commandments Vs New Testament Commandments by bobestman(m): 10:22pm On Jun 19, 2021
Your real bible is the Old Testament aka Torah.
The New Testament are just commentaries. They refer you to the Torah. This was why they always quote from it i.e "it's written", it's referring you to the OT. The main thing there are teachings of the Messiah which are also parts of the OT and the book of Revelations. Other books were written according to the knowledge of some of the Apostles and thus people who wrote the bible twisted many things there out of context.
The Messiah wrote no New Commandments. Many of his teachings ignorants folks had turned or summed up to commandments all have their root in the Torah. He only came to remove the burden in the Torah and tell the meaning of many of the teachings since He is WORD. Infact He came to simplify the Torah. Many things written about him in the Torah are still not fulfilled. He will fulfill all written about him when He comes

The Creator never change and can never get old.
His WORD can never change or become outdated that people call it Old testament or Covenant. A lot was done by thieves who translated the book to hide many things from you in the bible. So the book was sealed a long time ago (Daniel 12:4). Many things you people teach are not what happened. You can't even decode the lies, errors and contradictions visible there. The Messiah will come this endtime to UNSEAL the book. Many things you people teach here and quarrel about are not the truth. None of you, even your pastors understand the book. The truth when revealed will shock the world. Many who will remain then will sit down like a new born babe and learn. Stop teaching what you are not commissioned to teach. I tell you, their is a time for correction and restoration of the truth. Babes will humble you all!
Christianity EtcRe: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by bobestman(m):
Okay
Christianity EtcRe: Help, Am Having Bad Dreams Constantly by bobestman(m): 8:14pm On Jun 16, 2021
Kobojunkie:
What spirits do you suppose would war against one who has been given authority over all demons and devils in Jesus Christ? undecided

Again, I am reminded here of Jesus Christ's warning in Matthew 12 vs 43 - 45. Be careful that in your warfare, you do not end up in a worse state than your beginning state please. undecided
Aladdin 1
These ones don't believe in anything spiritual. Dreams, visions and miracles are lies to them. And since they don't believe, their eyes are close and they can't see. Those who are led by the spirit of God are called sons of God(Rom 8:14). There are times your spirit will direct you thru dreams. If you have bad dreams and you get up to study and pray to overcome them, you are learning how to overcome bad dreams. It's a process.

We are in the time of the end, many will dream dreams and see visions to WARN them of what is coming. These people don't see cos they don't believe in such things.
Christianity EtcRe: Help, Am Having Bad Dreams Constantly by bobestman(m): 7:51pm On Jun 16, 2021
Aladdin1:
Ok.do you mean bad dreams,spiritual attack and problems are trials that a christian must go through? it does NOT add up.but thanks anyway for your time.
Trials come in different forms both spiritually and physically. Some attacks are not to hurt you but to see how you will react to overcome. Everyone who is chosen is going thru difficult time one way or the other. Some troubles are part of ancient penance. These are deep things and I will leave them in codes.
Christianity EtcRe: Help, Am Having Bad Dreams Constantly by bobestman(m): 4:16pm On Jun 16, 2021
Aladdin1:
pls expanciate on these facts you wrote i think i need them.
I can't say much on that. All will go thru their own trials. A time will come when things will begin to be clear to you. It's a personal thing. Just live right, pray more and fill yourself with the WORD
Christianity EtcRe: Help, Am Having Bad Dreams Constantly by bobestman(m): 10:48am On Jun 16, 2021
Many of you Christians don't know that those who will be called for what is coming will have to be tried. You must be tested. The tests are usually thru dreams and visions. You will first get the bad dreams, then with time it will start getting positive. You may also see yourself in strange places or see yourself in schools writing exams. You might even be attacked by strange forces but you will be surprised that you weren't hurt. Don't panick! They will pass. When you begin making progress and going higher,passing the tests and exams, the dreams will start becoming positive and your spiritual life stronger. Everyone must face his/her trial and this is not done religiously but spiritually. Many flaws in your religion will begin making sense to you. Meditate on the word and pray before sleeping too

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