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Lmao. . . Ibadan people has been a disgrace to Nigeria since the days of Adam and Eve. Anyway, make my honour no loss shaa, I rep ****** State. We prefer 'bush system' to water water system. One smooth landing, you drop your passenger and find your way. Lol

How I got my guyname, abi nick name self? all the same joor... Ok, back then during my ss2, I was searching through name glossaries in a small handbook when I came across the meaning of 'Bob' which has the same meaning with my real indigenous sobriquette' Ugochukwu'. I quickly took the appellation without much glitch. That was how I came up with this moniker， "BobUg" on nairaland, Bob Ugee on facebook, ugee_bob on tweeter etcetera. . . So it's not bobogu like you thought earlier. Lol

Saraki has been outsmarting the Apc(ist) since 19bc. . . Lmao

Some people believes in the laws of Karma.
But, as a logical person, i don't believe in
laws of Karma. Karma to me is BS and a
hoax.


If Karma exist, then, Karma has not been fair
to us all. If Karma exist, then, Karma is a
cheat. If Karma exist, then, Karma is
selective. But on a logical note, what people
actually call Karma is plain coincidence.
Can we say Karma has served its purpose to
Shakau of BH that has killed thousands of
innocent people? If yes then, does a single
soul replicate the thousands of innocent
people that are dead and injured through
Shakau wickedness?


Our politicians has raped many of us of our
sense of belonging, what has Karma done to
them? This Politicians still live in affluence
while we live in plain poverty.


Let see logically if Karma truly exist.
Tunde is an accountant working in a fast
growing firm. Tunde wakes up early in the
morning to beat the crazy Lagos traffic on a
daily basis just to avoid getting to work late.
Never for ones has Tunde been late to work.
He's always punctual at work, get to work at
the right time and go about his work
sincerely.

One beautiful Monday morning, Tunde woke
up at the usual time he wakes up and hit the
road. Unfortunately for him, Tunde gets
stucked in a very unusual early morning
traffic jam. He got to work very late that day
and unfortunately for him, he misses a very
important board meeting which could have
given him a promotion opportunity.
For that singular action, Tunde boss was
mad, angry and infuriated. He wanted Tunde
to address the meeting that day but due to
Tunde lateness, Akin who is a perpetual
latecomer to work find himself in work very
early that day, he was given the opportunity
to address the meeting and he did well. Akin
was promoted immediately instead of Tunde.
When Tunde heard about Akin Promotion, he
was depressed and angry all through work.
When Tunde got home, he threw away his
car keys, wept bitterly and buries his face in
ocean of tears and says, "I am a good
person, I never harmed anyone, have never
cheated on anyone, am very obedient to my
boss, am very hardworking and very
prayerful, why did this happen to me? I don't
deserve this. I deserve better"
Now, are we going to say, Karma has played
its role here? What has Tunde done to be
treated harshly by Karma?


To me, what happened here, is plain
coincidence. Tunde was unlucky to be in
tight traffic that Monday morning while Akin
who love going to work arrived early and
was promoted. Its a coincident and one
person was lucky and the other wasn't
lucky.

Let take another story.
Michael is the leader of a drug cartel, human
trafficking and illegal movement of raw cash
to different parts of the world.
He's a bad guy but he has a very good heart
to his home people and his family. Michael
illegal activities has sent many innocent
people into their early grave. He controls the
Police, Judges, Politicians and Banks MDs.
He uses his ill gotten money to help his
people from his native town. He's seen a
hero. He's loved by everyone but, lots of
other innocent people are dig daily due to
his illegal business. He has a loving wife
and four kids.
Every day, the people that Michael traffic
illegally prays to karma to caught up with
Michael but Karma kept a deaf ear.
Why doesn't Karma punish him? Why
doesn't he get arrested and jailed?.
Michael will do anything to buy his way out,
he's above the law, he's feared even by the
police and Judges. But he's a philanthropist.
He build schools, roads, hospitals, Police
stations, court houses, he help the needy
and the poor etc.
Now, we all liked him, don't we?


So, you see, someone else has to suffer for
Karma to do its duty. You cannot balance
every equation in life. What people Karma is
mere coincidence. Lots of people has done
uncountable wicked acts yet, they live a
happy life. Unfortunately for those praying
for Karma to act, karma looked the other
way while this wicked people are lucky to
live a happy life though, they are wicked.
Have also seen good people die painful
deaths. Why did they die such horrible
death? Is it karma at work?


If Karma exist, it cannot balance every
equation in life. Sometimes, Karma leaves
out factors. An equation has other variables.
It's not always linear and independent. To
balance some, Karma had to permanently
mess up all the factors in the equation. If
this true, then, Karma is a hoax, its does not
exist as we were told. Because we all MUST
pay for our actions and in-actions. But for
the fact that some variables are involves and
karma look the other way then, Karma does
not exist.


All I mean to say is, whatever be our action
and reaction, we need to be fully unbiased
when judging the forces of every action and reaction.

Source...https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1007484012604558&id=100000289067739&_rdr

It worth it bro! the iPhone6 no be here joor!

remember007:
instead of quelling the insurgency in the North by calling his sons and daughters who are bombing the North to hell even in their holy month to order, the Daura President is looking for an excuse to attack South South.......the terrorists surely will attack me,..#hids behind Berrystunn and Mancity

Oye50:
The first man

“Therefore, even as through one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed on all men inasmuch as all sinned” (Romans 5:12).

We read in 1 Corinthians 15:45 that Adam was “the first man.” God did not start by making a whole group of men.

The Bible makes it clear that only the descendants of Adam can be saved. Romans 5 teaches that we sin because Adam sinned. The death penalty, which Adam received as judgment for his sin of rebellion, also passed on to all his descendants.

Since Adam was the head of the human race when he “fell,” we who were in the loins of Adam “fell,” also. Thus, we are all separated from God. The final consequence of sin would be separation from God in our sinful state forever. However, the good news is that there is a way for us to return to God!

Because a man brought sin and death into the world, all the descendants of Adam need a sinless Man to pay the penalty for sin and the resulting judgment of death. However, the Bible teaches that “all have sinned” (Romans 3:23). What is the solution?

The Last Adam

God provided the solution—a way to deliver man from his wretched state. Paul explains in 1 Corinthians 15 that God provided another Adam! The Son of God took on a human nature in addition to His full divinity, becoming a perfect God-man—Jesus Christ. In His humanity, He was a descendant of Adam (through Noah, Abraham and David)—He thus became our relation! He is called “the last Adam” (1 Corinthians 15:45), because he took the place of the first Adam. He became the new head, and, because he was sinless, He was able to pay the penalty for sin:

“For since by a man came death, by a man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive” (1 Corinthians 15:21-22).

Christ suffered death (the penalty for sin) on the cross, shedding his blood (“without shedding of blood is no remission” Hebrews 9:22) so that those who repent of their sin of rebellion and put their trust in His work on the cross can be reconciled to God.

Since the Bible describes all human beings as sinners, except the God-Man Jesus, and we are all related (“And He has made all nations of men of one blood to dwell on all the face of the earth” Acts 17:26), the gospel makes sense only on the basis that all humans alive and all who have ever lived are descendants of the first man Adam. If this were not so, then the gospel could not be explained or defended.

The Book of Hebrews amplifies how Jesus took upon himself the nature of a man to save mankind (Hebrews 2:11-18).

Thus, only descendants of the first man Adam can be saved.

All related

Thus, there was only one man at the beginning—made from the dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7).

This also means that Cain's wife was a descendant of Adam. She could not have come from another “race” of people and must be one of Adam's descendants.

The first woman

In Genesis 3:20 we read, “And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.” In other words, all people are descendants of Adam and Eve—she was the first woman.

Eve was made from Adam's rib (or side) (Genesis 2:21-24)—this was a unique event. Jesus (Matthew 19:4-6) and Paul (Ephesians 5:31) use this historical and one-time event as the doctrinal foundation for the marriage of one man to one woman.

Also, in Genesis 2:20, we are told that when Adam looked at the animals, he could not find a mate—there was no one of his kind.

All this makes it obvious that there was only one woman, Adam's wife, at the beginning. There were never any other women around who were not Eve's descendants.

If Christians cannot defend that all humans (including Cain's wife) can trace their ancestry ultimately to Adam and Eve, then how can they understand and explain the gospel? How can they justify sending missionaries to every tribe and nation? Therefore, one needs to be able to answer the question about Cain's wife, to illustrate that Christians can defend the gospel and all that it teaches.

Cain's brothers and sisters

Cain was the first child of Adam and Eve recorded in Scripture (Genesis 4:1). His brothers, Abel (Genesis 4:2) and Seth (Genesis 4:25), were part of the first generation of children ever born on this earth.

Even though only these three males are mentioned by name, Adam and Eve had other children. In Genesis 5:4 a statement sums up the life of Adam and Eve—“And the days of Adam after he had fathered Seth were eight hundred years. And he fathered sons and daughters.” This does not say when they were born. Many could have been born in the 130 years (Genesis 5:3) before Seth was born.

During their lives, Adam and Eve had a number of male and female children. The Jewish historian Josephus wrote that, “The number of Adam's children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters.”

The Bible does not tell us how many children were born to Adam and Eve. However, considering their long life spans (Adam lived for 930 years—Genesis 5:5), it would seem reasonable to suggest there were many! Remember, They were commanded to “Be fruitful, and multiply” (Genesis 1:28).

The wife

If we now work totally from Scripture, without any personal prejudices or other extra-biblical ideas, then back at the beginning, when there was only the first generation, brothers would have had to have married sisters or there would be no more generations!

We are not told when Cain married or any of the details of other marriages and children, but we can say for certain that some brothers had to marry their sisters at the beginning of human history.

But what about God's Laws?

Many people immediately reject the conclusion that Adam and Eve's sons and daughters married each other by appealing to the law against brother-sister intermarriage. Some say that you cannot marry your relation. Actually, if you don't marry your relation, you don't marry a human! A wife is related to her husband even before they marry because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve—all are of “one blood.” The law forbidding marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses (Leviticus 18-20). Provided marriage was one man to one woman for life (based on Genesis 1 and 2), there was no disobedience to God's law originally when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other.

Remember that Abraham married his half-sister (Genesis 20:12). God blessed this union to produce the Hebrew people through Isaac and Jacob. It was not until some 400 years later that God gave Moses laws that forbade such marriages.

Biological deformities

Today, brothers and sisters (and half-brothers and half-sisters, etc.) are not permitted by law to marry because their children have an unacceptably high risk of being deformed. The more closely the parents are related, the more likely it is that any offspring will be deformed.

There is a very sound genetic reason for such laws that is easy to understand. Every person has two sets of genes, there being some 130,000 pairs that specify how a person is put together and functions. Each person inherits one gene of each pair from each parent. Unfortunately, genes today contain many mistakes (because of sin and the Curse), and these mistakes show up in a variety of ways. For instance, some people let their hair grow over their ears to hide the fact that one ear is lower than the other—or perhaps someone's nose is not quite in the middle of his or her face, or someone's jaw is a little out of shape—and so on. Let's face it, the main reason we call each other normal is because of our common agreement to do so!

The more distantly related parents are, the more likely it is that they will have different mistakes in their genes. Children, inheriting one set of genes from each parent, are likely to end up with pairs of genes containing a maximum of one bad gene in each pair. The good gene tends to override the bad so that a deformity (a serious one, anyway) does not occur. Instead of having totally deformed ears, for instance, a person may only have crooked ones! (Overall, though, the human race is slowly degenerating as mistakes accumulate, generation after generation.)

However, the more closely related two people are, the more likely it is that they will have similar mistakes in their genes, since these have been inherited from the same parents. Therefore, a brother and a sister are more likely to have similar mistakes in their genes. A child of a union between such siblings could inherit the same bad gene on the same gene pair from both, resulting in two bad copies of the gene and serious defects.

Adam and Eve did not have accumulated genetic mistakes. When the first two people were created, they were physically perfect. Everything God made was “very good” (Genesis 1:31), so their genes were perfect—no mistakes! But, when sin entered the world (because of Adam—Genesis 3:6, Romans 5:12), God cursed the world so that the perfect creation then began to degenerate, that is, suffer death and decay (Romans 8:22). Over thousands of years, this degeneration has produced all sorts of genetic mistakes in living things.

Cain was in the first generation of children ever born. He (as well as his brothers and sisters) would have have received virtually no imperfect genes from Adam or Eve, since the effects of sin and the Curse would have been minimal to start with (it takes time for these copying errors to accumulate). In that situation, brother and sister could have married with God's approval, without any potential to produce deformed offspring.

By the time of Moses (a few thousand years later), degenerative mistakes would have built up in the human race to such an extent that it was necessary for God to forbid brother-sister (and close relative) marriage (Leviticus 18-20). (Also, there were plenty of people on the earth by then, and there was no reason for close relations to marry.)

Cain and the Land of Nod

Some claim that the passage in Genesis 4:16-17 means that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Thus, they can conclude there must have been another race of people on the earth, who were not descendants of Adam, who produced Cain's wife.

“And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bore Enoch: and he built a city, and he called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.”

From what has been stated previously, it is clear that all humans, Cain's wife included, are descendants of Adam. However, this passage does not say that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. John Calvin, commenting on these verses, states:

“From the context we may gather that Cain, before he slew his brother, had married a wife; otherwise Moses would now have related something respecting his marriage.”

Cain was married before he went to the land of Nod. He didn't find a wife there, but “knew” (had sexual relations with) his wife.

Others have argued that because Cain built a “city” in the land of Nod, there must have been a lot of people there. However, the Hebrew word translated as “city” need not mean what we might imagine from the connotations of “city” today. The word meant a “walled town” or a protected encampment. Even a hundred people would be plenty for such a “city.” Nevertheless, there could have been many descendants of Adam on the earth by the time of Abel's death (see below).

Who was Cain fearful of? (Genesis 4:14)

Cain kills Abel. Click here for the story. (Illustration copyrighted).
Some claim that there had to be lots of people on earth other than Adam and Eve's descendants, otherwise Cain would not have been fearful of people wanting to slay him for killing Abel.

First of all, in the days before civil government was instituted to punish murderers (Genesis 9:6), someone would want to harm Cain for killing Abel only if they were closely related to Abel! Strangers could hardly have cared. So the people Cain was afraid of could not have been another race of people.

Second, Cain and Abel were born quite some time before Abel's death. Genesis 4:3 states:

“And in the course of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering to the Lord.”

Note the phrase “in the course of time.” We know that Seth was born when Adam was 130 years old (Genesis 5:3), and Eve saw him as a “replacement” for Abel (Genesis 4:25). Therefore, the period from Cain's birth to Abel's death may have been 100 years or more—allowing plenty of time for other children of Adam and Eve to marry and have children and grandchildren. By the time Abel was killed, there could well have been a considerable number of descendants of Adam and Eve, involving several generations.

Where did the technology come from?

Some claim that for Cain to go to the land of Nod and build a city he would have required a lot of technology that must have already been in that land, presumably developed by other “races.”

However, Adam and Eve's descendants were very intelligent people. Jubal made musical instruments such as the harp and organ (Genesis 4:21), and Tubal-Cain worked with brass and iron (Genesis 4:22).

Because of intense evolutionary indoctrination, many people today think that our generation is the most intelligent that has ever lived on this planet. But just because we have jet airplanes and computers, it does not mean that we are the most intelligent. Modern technology results from the accumulation of knowledge. We stand on the shoulders of those who have gone before us.

Our brains have suffered from 6,000 years of the Curse (since Adam). We are greatly degenerated compared with people many generations ago. We may now be nowhere near as intelligent or inventive as Adam and Eve's children. Scripture gives us a glimpse of what appears to be great inventiveness from the beginning.

Conclusion

Many Christians cannot answer the question about Cain's wife because they focus on today's world (and the problems associated with close relations marrying), and do not understand the clear historical record God has given to us.

They try to interpret Genesis from our present situation, rather than understand the true biblical history of the world and the changes that have occurred because of sin. Because they are not building their world view on Scripture, but taking a secular way of thinking to the Bible, they are blinded to the simple answers.

Genesis is the record of the God who was there as history happened. It is the word of One who knows everything, and who is a reliable witness from the past. Thus, when we use Genesis as a basis for understanding history, we can make sense of questions that would otherwise be a mystery.

Please sir,can you educate us more on the case of Lilith ;Adams' first wife.Patiently waiting for your response..

ikes9:
Yhu people should Google Lilith...

Its said that Lilith was the first wife of Adam..buhh due to Lilith wanting to be on top. while they were banging...they had an argument...and Lilith left Adam...

there's more to the story shaaa. so just Google bout Lilith

Hmmmm,I 'm getting more confused! Initially, I thought the bible stated it clear to us that Eve was the only wife Adam had.

I have read litany of comments from different people concerning this particular topic and one thing I will add to it is that it's different strokes for different folks.

You have your own personal reason(s) why choose your preferred choice.
As for me, I grew up in the village so I know how it feels when you don't have a conducive environment to sleep.

There is no place like home!no matter how you guys twist it,it better to own a house in the village first before thinking of erecting a mansion in the city.

AKU RUO ULO, AMALA ONYE KPATARA YA

Lmao...This man no go kill person with his grammar. I wonder what Buhari will do if this piece gets to his table.

Well, to me I'll rather say that the answer to this question is subjective base on the environment and time differences in their respective working places. I hope you don't expect that in a family where the spouse works in two different places where their closing hour from work varies...


Like take for instance,I can use my own case as an example here. I work with someone whose closing hour is 10pm while his wife closes from work by 5pm.


@Op...I hope you don't expect the wife to wait till 10:30 when he comes back from work?

The advisers this people, they always advise you even when they know that you don't need the advice.

They tend to make themselves your personal adviser.

Op this list is not complete if you don't mention Biafra. You'd have started from within.

animalz:
JESUS IS AT YOUR DOOR KNOCKING, WAITING FOR YOU TO RECEIVE HIM, SEND THIS MESSAGE TO 10 PEOPLE AND RECEIVE HIM TO YOUR LIFE WITH ALL MANNERS GOODIE.

PERSON ACTUALLY SEND ME THIS TIN. I HAVE TO EDUCATE THAT GUY OHH

Why always Ebonyi huh? I'm sick and tired of this our superstitious chauvinism. I wonder what it will cost to expunge all these stupid traits in our society.

Gone are the days when things like this still tailor in our communities/societies.

animalz:
SONS OF AN ANIMAL


WETI DEY VEX ME PASS NA BESAY THOSE ANIMALS GO DEY SEND ME SOME KIND MESSAGE SAY MAKE I SEND AM TO 10 PEOPLE, SAY I GO RECEIVE BLESSING

The thing tire me ooo!!

I'd to take it up with one guy few days ago who sent me one stupid msg urging me to send it to 15 other people before I will receive my miracle that follows the msg.

Some times I wonder where they get all those stupid ideas from.

remember007:
am in support of this argument... I visited my grandmother in the village for the first time in agu-ukwu in anambra state for my 2 weeks holiday from school... if u see. the structures and edifices igbo people have in this and other surrounding villages,its unfortunate I have no picture evidence... looks more like the houses u see in lagos and and far better than the ones in Benin G R A...and they visit home only once a year from lagos,aba, Enugu asaba and other states and outside Nigeria.... I really don't like the idea... my grandmas house was superb too

I can attest to that. The igbo's are very good at that when it comes to taking their wealth down to their mother-land.

It's their primary objective be you a government worker or a businessman. They believe that no matter how long you stayed in the diaspora one day you 'll surely come back to your motherland.

SuPeRq:
It depends

On what?

Genea:
Op its lalasticlala nt lakadisical or wateva u spelt....@ answer,none is beta dan d oda ,cos some village gals r far worse dan city gals

Thanks for the correction.

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Hello, Greetings to y'all Nairalanders!
I don't know which section to post this thread but I just decided to post it here.
____________________________________
I ran into this argument with my friends and I decided to share it here.

Between girls that were born in the village and those that were born and bred in the city who makes a better marriage?


Cc:Ishilove.

Cc:lalasticlala

I found NL through Google search on Feb 2012 when Witney Houston was announced dead.

searching4lovee:
IGBOS ARE GUILTY OF THIS

Which part in Igbo land are you attributing it to??

I haven't been to Ibadan before so my opinion doesn't count much on this.

***silently walks out of thread***

I smell something fishy!

remember007:
I really don't know but I love the place

You really love the place abi? Lol.
I love it too.

Naughty Lucky032. Rotfmao

ronald4lif:
It's hard to believe the risk people take for such a teeny amount of money. For how many days would 14k sustain him and what if he'd been caught. I guess we blame the devil as usual. This is no smartness but stup*dity.

I wonder ooo.

Sorry dear sometimes are like that.You have to brace up. This are the kind of people I will always like to help out if I have the opportunity.


But come to think of it? Naija guys are always smart at rubbish. What 'd they do with such little amount of money? 14k ! Which couldn't afford a pair suit.

These are how they go about laying curse on their heads when they are frustrated now, they will start apportioning the blame on a witch craft.

God will surely judge them.