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It's too early to be doing line up prediction for a final that's weeks away. You all need to chill.

Jamiuokolaa:
These one that rejected and iron condemned players are being praised anyhow

What we preached here and was castigated for. Onto the final, hopefully we win it.

You guys have started another knee jerk reaction after a champions league game. That was how we ended up with Onana yet you haven't learnt anything.

Jamiuokolaa:
Yes, Wolves have better players - Pereirra has been able to prove it to us since he joined in December.

This was the league table when Eth was sacked. Wolves were in the relegation zone with two points now they are 2 points above us. If Ipswich, Southampton and Leicester were not terrible, we would have actually been in a relegation tussle.

CapitalCee:
Try and watch match. Stop using livescore.

I watched both games. Arsenal had more shots, possession, corners, touches in our box, higher xG, same number of big chances.

Real Sociedad had more possession, same amount of shots, 2 big chances to our zero, more corners, higher xG etc

So pray tell how we were the better team.

CapitalCee:
Notice how Liverpool made 7 changes and lost comfortably agaisnt this rubbish Chelsea team. Thos was almost the same team that Slot fielded versus Plymouth and lost.
But some people want Amorim to use Fredricson, Amass, Bayindir, Chido Obi and dead legged Eriksen, Mount and Shaw and win Brentford away.

If I talk now they will say I am belittling other people just because they are making their points. But you sef check the points you are making, how does it make sense to you?

Even if he had used his best 11 it's likely we would have still lost going by his record. We have one win in our last 7 league games and that was against a relegated Leicester.

CapitalCee:
Wow, we played agaisnt Arsenal 11 vs 11 and we were the better team.

We played agaisnt Sociedad away 11-11 and we were the better team.
We played away to Lyon 11 vs 11 and was winning until Onana gave away a goal.

Agaisnt Bilbao who has the best defence in la liga we were 2-0 up before the red card. So how does that translate to winning due to 10 men.
I have been watching how many people's talk here about the team and the manager, all I can do is to just laugh.

In what universe did we play better than Arsenal and Real Sociedad away?

eph12:
But many people questioned the deal immediately the news broke out. Its not a 2 years thing. Almost everyone felt the same back then. This was not a youngster or someone we haven't seen before. Many questions were asked back then, from his skillset to the cost, especially as he was injury prone and had only one year left on his contract

Read the post again. Maybe I should highlight the key part to help you out.

Bombblacks:
IF a coach makes clear a particular signing is his priority and the club gets it for him then whatever happens next his own the coach. Not 2 years later people like you will start blaming the management for getting the coach shitty players or saying the profile is not what we needed when the coach asked for him specifically.

TheLequte:
It doesn’t matter if ETH believed he needed Mount or not, spending 60m on an injury prone player with one year left on his contract makes little sense

No one is asking if the price was high or not. Was ETH backed with a player he felt was crucial to his set up? You keep ignoring the main genesis of the discussion. You said he was not the profile the coach needed despite the man in charge specifically asking for that particular player.

TheLequte:
Stop dribbling yourself.

Some transfer moves are a no-no no matter how much you dress them up. Apart from not having a profile that suits the team, 60m for an injury prone Mount with a year left on his contract doesn’t make any sense.

So, even if he is the right profile, a management with sense should not agree to the deal even if the coach is saying the player is crucial to their plans. That’s where the Glazers and recruitment department are at fault.

Back the manager doesn’t mean back his stvpid decisions too. Or how do you explain 80m for Antony?

You are just typing for argument sake.

If a coach wants a player that means he thinks the players suit his set up. I don't know why you keep repeating the absurd line of not having the profile the team needs like you were in charge of the team. Mount signing is on ETH and him alone.

TheLequte:
Was donut midfield the new set up he needed Mount for ?

You and ETH should be jailed.

All these things you are typing are irrelevant and shallow. Did ETH specifically want Mount because he believed he was critical to his set up. Yes or No? That's the point we are talking about while you are beating around the bush.

TheLequte:
Some coaches are very poor at identifying talent. While this doesn’t make them bad, hiring coaches with such flaws and handing them a blank cheque doesn’t sound like a wise decision.

But I guess that didn’t occur to you.

If not for Wilcox we would’ve signed Amrabat and his heavy nyansh on a permanent move.

IF a coach makes clear a particular signing is his priority and the club gets it for him then whatever happens next his own the coach. Not 2 years later people like you will start blaming the management for getting the coach shitty players or saying the profile is not what we needed when the coach asked for him specifically.

TheLequte:
I’m saying that the manager no get sense. With the way he played in his first season, ETH’s set up has no profile in the mould of Mason Mount.

Did Eth tell you he was going to repeat the same set up? Coach said he needed mount for his set up you are saying he was not the profile. You know more than the person that created the set up.

Manager request for players, club back the manager by providing those players, Manger underperform with those same players , club sacks the manager, fans blame the management for providing shitty players for the coach to work with. Rinse and repeat

larride:
All the players Ten Hag both were critical to his set up, that's why he was 14th when he was sacked.

Critical ko, criteria ni

You will still be the one to blame the club management if they fail to give the Managers players they request for. Damned If they do and damned if they don't.

TheLequte:
I remember some of us were a bit perplexed with the Mount signing. He wasn’t exactly the kind of profile that we needed. And paying 60m for him was crazy. He didn’t light up the pitch at Chelsea, he was injury prone, and to top it all, he had just one year left on his contract.

Ten Hang, the recruitment department and whoever the Glazer put in charge of the club’s purse poured 60m down the drain. Mind boggling.

The Manager specifically asked for Mount because he saw him as critical to his set up so what are you saying.

For anyone thinking it's going to easy against Spurs we have lost to them 3 times this season. They are definitely the favorite going into the final.

Without the away goal rule draws just feel useless.

engrelvis:
lf you like be the best in your forme league, if u can't transalate here then l will v problem with me. That is y most of us don't get excited about any new signing again until uv proven yrsef here. All this nonsence about United being a graveyard for coaches is all rubbish. Bruno is in ascendency. Get the right coach / players everytin will fall into place

All what you have said does not negate his point. Did United hire top and highly rated Coaches? Yes. Were all of them successful at the club. No.

engrelvis:
lol.. so ETH was gud with all his bad "buy".Not to talk of his technical deficiencies.No wahala Agenda must "Agendise"
.

You all keep missing his point. Before Eth came to United he was one of the most sort after young managers in the game just like Amorim. Eth Ajax side was lauded for his achievement and style of play hence his point of United hiring managers that were good and highly rated. It didn't work out doesn't mean the club was wrong in considering and hiring him. You guys will read A and turn it to Z.

Leyqute:
Eriksen’s physical floor is well below 10% wrt other EPL players. If he gets involved in a physical duel with 90% of EPL players, how many of them will he win?

You don’t need to jump around the issue. An Eriksen-Fred combo will never protect their back 4 nor be a reliable platform to launch attacks.

Stop looking at things from your rose-tinted agenda perspective and deal with reality.

There's no Epl player with 10% physicality.

You have created a scenario of Fred and Eriksen in midfield which never happened. Like I said stop creating false narrative.

Have we bought different profiles of midfielder over the years. Yes or No?

Leyqute:
LooL.

So you’re part of those people that believe a midfield combo of Eriksen (90% technique , 10% physicality ) and Fred (20% technique, 80% physicality) is the best way to go?

There's no premier league footballer with 10% physicality. You need to stop missing the point on purpose just to create a false narrative.

Leyqute:
Lukaku is a decent striker. But he is above average in terms of technicality and physicality.
Ibrahimovic is elite. But like Cavani, age was not on his side when he came.

Good mix of physicality and technique una. Maybe before they came to United. Only a few have impressed in the United shirt. Na why rumors of all these shiny toys no dey do me again.

DJ YK mule

He clearly meant a good mixture of players that are technical and those that are physical. We have bought physical strikers and strikers that are technical. We have bought different varieties of wingers as well. Same in midfield and Defense.

Gyokeres release clause is £60M. I like Cunha but I prefer spending that amount on Gyok. Then we could add delap for £30M to bolster the attack further.

That Maino goal on Thursday was sublime. We need him match fit from here hence forth.

nitrogen:
I kuku said it here that we would beat Lyon. But we won’t win the Europa League, unfortunately. How do we plan to survive against Athletic Club and/or Tottenham? Not happening.

We can definitely win the Europa. Tottenham are just like us if not even worst in getting results and we will be meeting them in the final. Hopefully they get knocked out by Bodo. Athletic Bilbao over two legs will be tricky but doable.

patrickmuf:
You might not like the coach, but for the love of the club, we really need to win the UEL and qualify for the UCL...

Reports say we don't have money and only UCL qualification guarantees cash windfall of any kind coupled with the fact that we can players will be willing to come with the allure of UCL football so as a fan, this is not the time to pray the team fails just so you can banter those who you think are loyal to the coach. If we don't win the UEL and Amorim finally gets the sack, where will the new coach get the money to bring in players? Abi, you will start demanding he will somehow get this crop of players to start delivering consistently.

I really don't understand you lot. One minute the players are not good enough to win the likes of Ipswich and Fulham while the next you want the same below average players to win the Europa. How is that going to happen if the players cannot start for Southampton like some said. Like I have said countless times Amorim has performed below par with the players at his disposal. The squad is capable of winning the Europa league and even finishing at least in the top ten. When we ask for results to improve you all said it's short term gain for long term failure. I didn't see anyone complaining about the win we had yesterday.

Oasis007:


Maz, Maguire and Yoro over Chalobah, Tosin and Colwill?! Peak fooling LOL!

Mainoo over Enzo?! Another peak fooling. LMFAO!

I don't even wanna talk about Onana and Sanchez, coz its so disgusting to pick Onana over Samchez.

Even Chelsea fans will not pick those clowns you just mentioned. Chalobah, Tosin wtf. If you truly believe those guys are better than Maguire, Yoro, De ligt, Martinez etc then forget about it.

On Enzo Its Ibime I will call to educate you. Enzo in a midfield two is a receipe for disaster.

Like I said Onana and Sanchez are in the same boat with onana just slightly better. Sanchez is called a chronic gambler on the Chelsea thread for a reason. Onana has won multiple trophies and even played a champions final, Sanchez highest level is mid table which is why I gave Onana the nod.

Amoto94:
It is greed and avarice not ignorance per say that's driving Nigerians into ponzi schemes, I remember warning some of my colleagues who were better off financially than me about one scheme last year or so- one of them she know it will crash definitely but she wants to cash out before the crash. I told her to invest in me at least she's sure of seeing me if anything were to happen to her investment unlike the guys behind the scheme.

At least she's smart. Did she cash out?

Oasis007:


......Just imagine Amorim laying his hands on Chelsea's squad! Chei! Liverpool would likely find themselves trailing rather than getting closer to another EPL title. LOL!

Amorim would definitely set up a 3-4-2-1 formation, and the lineup could possibly look like this:

GK: Sánchez

CBs: Badiashile, Wesley Fofana, Colwill

WBs: Reece James, Cucurella

CMFs: Caicedo, Lavia

AMFs: Palmer, Neto

ST: Jackson


Now, compare this lineup to whatever best Manchester United can offer at the moment. Name just one Man U player who could displace any of these Chelsea players.

Let's even set aside stats because they beat us hands down. Chelsea fans go just dey laugh us bruh, coz their second team still better than our best XI.....LOL!

Cc raumdeuter

Sanchez and onana are in the same bracket. Onana might even be better going by the comments on the Chelsea thread.

Badashille? I am convinced lindelof is better than that guy. Fofana is injury prone and colwill is not better than Maguire or De ligt. We have better center back options than Chelsea.

They have better fullbacks and that's only because of Amad injury.

Lavia is injury prone so we can't judge his level. Caicedo is definitely better than all our midfield options.

Bruno is better than Palmer or at least on the same level. Garnacho is definitely better than Neto.

Jackson is definitely better than Holjund.

Combined first Eleven

Onana

Maz. Maguire. De ligt/ Yoro

James. Caicedo. Maino. Cucurella

Bruno. Palmer

Jackson

delkuf:
Amorim problem is when we had lots of injuries he didn't look at the academy. Use those young fresh boys. A good coach would have discovered one or two good players from the academy that he would integrated into the main team.

Look at what flick is doing at Barca. He has integrated lots of 17 to 18 years old player into the main team. Look at what they are doing for them

I am certain this is inaccurate.

Onana said absolutely nothing wrong. Matic should stop being a baby. Believing in your team and saying you are better than the opponent is the kind of mentality we need and in no way is that disrespecting the opponent.