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Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 2:29pm On Nov 26, 2012
Oh droppings?? wtf! grin
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 2:24pm On Nov 26, 2012
Oh sh!t, how the mess did this happen?
*screaming*
bring your ass over here Tamar angry grin
Congrat babes.

@Mavia and Gudit,
you both did great, enjoyed reading through your rebuttals while waiting for Tamar to respond.

@the contenders here and in the first topic, child soldiers.

for making this debate realistic, we are all winners!
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 12:18am On Nov 26, 2012
Tamar1:
alright, good morning

Good evening.
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 12:13am On Nov 26, 2012
Tamar1:

actually the responsibility lies first on the govt to educate the parents who inturn are enlightend and can teach and send their kids to sch.

so what happens if the educated parent do not educate their kids, you still blame the government?

if u agree wit me that parents dont.know it.all, then u agree that teachers are more competent?

and what happens when the parents are more competent than the teachers, you still blame the teachers?
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all I see is us going round in circles so I'll be stepping down now.
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 11:55pm On Nov 25, 2012
Tamar1:

u haven't answered my.questions, are u saying that different scales should be used for kids with and without parents ? that they are unequal and should be treated differently?

well, sadly this is what is obtainable in this society of ours but that in itself does not make it right.
so, no I didn't infer that.
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 11:48pm On Nov 25, 2012
Tamar1:

ok. let me ask you, wat are the ways std's can be transmitted? wat is a contraceptive and its functions ? [b]the fact.remains that issues concerning sexuality goes beyond sex and pregnancy. parents do not know it all [/b]and they aren't everyday slangs

very true,

it's good that you agree with me that parents can source for info elsewhere. invariably, you, we are saying that.its the responsibility of the govt and media to educate the parent who ll in turn educate the child . inother words, govt and media and schools are to blame when a child engages in early sex

of course I've never implied that they can't get this information from another means, how else can they be knowledgeable to educate their kids? from their farms?

the responsibility lies on them whether they decide to educate these kids themselves or send them to schools.

Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 11:37pm On Nov 25, 2012
Tamar1:
u mean that a parent by virtue of the parentship knowa all about std's birthcontrol and its side effects? u wuld rather deny kids comprehensive sex ed and have parents teach dem d lil they know that have competent educators teach them?

tell me, why do you feel schools and media aren't competent? do u deny that kids are influences by outside factors and modern tech which their parents are skilled on?

don't get me wrong, these parents were once taught by teachers so why should I see them as incompetent?
teachers and government has a role to play in this also, there is no doubting that.
are you aware that there exist educated parents who not even have time for their kids? thereby leaving their kids uninfomed? what does that tell you of them?
teachers and the government can be excused from this but definitely not the parents.


back to first responsibility, do u deny the war between parents and teens and.the need for kids to do d exact.opposite of wat their parents tell them? do u deny the straines relationship dat exist bw them den? and that parents embarrassment dat der kid is growing up will not prevent them from teaching facts!

the question here is, how is their relationship?
do these parent respect their kids and allow them to participate in decisions about them or they just go ahead and threaten/impose on them?



abt d party officials, the one with the higher responsibility is d one dat has access to the masses, the grassroots so also do d media and teachers have.more access and attention of teens, children .

then the chairman needs to be impeached because he's definitely not doing his job.
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Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 11:23pm On Nov 25, 2012
Tamar1:
u mean that a parent by virtue of the parentship knowa all about std's birthcontrol and its side effects?

and why shouldn't they? these are household terms that are used everyday and slangs even created for it and even when they don't all they need do is to get themselves updated every now and then either from someone more experienced than them or the internet so as to be able to educate their kids.
or is this too great a price to pay?
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 11:13pm On Nov 25, 2012
Tamar1:
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who do u shift the burden to when a child is an orphan? the dead parents?
do u mean to say that its ok for other favtors like sch to come into play only wen.d parents are no more?
are you saying that different scales should be used for children with and without parents ?

from the definition of the word parent, you have first the one who births and nurture the child first before other definitions, that is to tell you how important biological parents are and in a case where they are no more, the other parent takes it's place.
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 11:02pm On Nov 25, 2012
From Tamar1,

if i understood you well, u meant that parents have sole and.greater responsibility only because.they have the first responsibility? why do u think so? isn't it just like saying that chairman of a political party has sole responsibility to the membersby virtue of his office and that.state chairman and l,g chairman who can better reach. the grassroots has no responsibility?

Parents have the greater responsibility not only because they are the first responsibilities,
they are meant to be friends with their kids, observe their actions to know when they are on the wrong track, educate their kids on social and sexual vices, I mean they need to be updated from time to time so as to be on the same wavelength as their kids.

and yes the chairman and not the LG will be held responsible if the objectives of the party is not met, why then is he the chairman?




they do not have the prerequisites because they arent qualified, trained educators and also their instinct to protect will prevent them from giving their kids comprehensive sex ed. besides they are bound to teach children wat they.feel is right thereby stripping.the.kids.of the views of diff schs of tot and ability to make informed choices . i am saying that all parents are not esucated and that the onwa that are doesnt qualify as competent sex educators coz they are engineers or accountants
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A parent do not need to get certified before he/she can educate their child,
they have the ability to tell the wrong from the right and to educate their kids likewise, but sadly not all parents can.
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 10:42pm On Nov 25, 2012
Tamar1: boudicca if i were to agree with you for a nano second tha t parents are to blame, going by your definition of the tem "parent", are you not saying that government, schs and media arr.to blame since they are caregivers, protectors, nurturers and even counsel a and guide ?

This can only suffice if the biological parents are no more, but if they are, why should the balme be given to another parent?
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 10:38pm On Nov 25, 2012
maclatunji: @Boudicca, don't you feel that parents are a product of the society and any failures they have in terms of "sex education" is primarily society's failure?

@Sheba, what is the primary role of parents in the sexual enlightenment of their children?

That's parents hiding behind the failures of the society and to me it means they are not ready to succeed, if a parents must succeed in whatever way, they need to first think of what they can do and if something worthwhile, they should sit and find a way around it to make it work instead of making excuses.
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 10:19pm On Nov 25, 2012
Tamar1
[quote]agreed, parents have the first responsibility but does.that mean sole or greater reaponsibility? no!! because they do not have the.prerequisites to continue sex ed. the child is theirs but doesn't belong to them, they belongs.to us all... we feel the impact and suffer the consequences, they are our children.

the.one.who raises the child is called the parent not the.one who begets.it[quote]

if the child is theirs, he/she surely belongs to the parent first before anyone else.
and what do you mean that parents do not have the prerequisite to continue sex education? are you saying parents are not educated enough?

and for the records, one who begets and one who raises a child are both parent.
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 8:42pm On Nov 25, 2012
Am I missing something here Cuddles?
Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 8:10pm On Nov 25, 2012
Tamar1: ......its frightening to think that you mark your child merely by being yourself. it seems unfair , you cant assume the responsibility for every thing you do or do not do...... simone de beauvoir...

Why shouldn't one be held responsible for their actions? I mean a parent gives birth to child and decides to be themselves by not educating this child about sexuality, and you say they shouldn't be held responsible?

Abstract

Tamar1: With globalization, Nigeria is now abreast of the trend of events all over the world. This means the exposure of our youths to the influence of foreign culture. Today, our youths with the influence of foreign permissive culture have found themselves experiencing sex at a younger age than their parents did. Bearing in mind the different constraints faced by our society with which sexuality is treated, one finds that adolescents have fallen victims to the consequences of poor sexuality and sex education due to societal reactions to issues that bother on sexuality,

Don't you think they fell victims because parents neglected their responsibilities?.

[quote author=Tamar1]This discourse views the task of sexuality as a function of the system of the society at large which includes the government, media and religious institutions, and not the sole responsibility of the parent, and the importance of sexuality education in the Nigerian school system as a panacea of preventing the social problems associated with child sexual activities. This is where the issue of responsibility arises, and who is to blame for a child’s ignorance on the implication(s) of engaging in sexual activities.

Introduction
Human sexuality has to do with the ways people experience and expresses themselves as sexual beings, and this encompasses a wide range of social activities and behaviors. In biological terms, sexuality involves certain degree of sexual intercourse and sexual contacts. In Nigeria and Africa at large issues about sexuality are always shrouded in secrecy because of cultural inhibitions, while parents and educators (government) place high premium on the education of children about life but would hesitate when issues concerning sexuality and sex education are mentioned. In a judgmental society as ours, giving information about sexuality and sex to children poses the challenge of choice of words, while issues of decency in the transmission of information are very crucial.
The world today has become a global village with Nigeria at the fore front of globalization in Africa. Nigerian youths now have access to information which was hitherto unavailable to their parents when they were youths which can be attributed to the influence of foreign popular culture being imbibed and accepted as the norm by her youths. Recent studies by World Health Organization (2002) has revealed that most African youths, Nigeria inclusive now experience sex at an earlier age than their parents did. This view has also been corroborated by the studies carried out by Okonfua (2002) and Okpani and Okpani (2002) which showed a decline in the age of sexual experience from twenty to sixteen among adolescents contrary to accepted moral and cultural values. This no doubt portends a dangerous trend which affects the society at large. With the hue and cry about the menace of dangerous and incurable diseases as well as increase in teenage pregnancy and abortion in recent times, the burden thus exceeds what a parent/guardian could bear alone. Government, and media as important institutions of the society vested with the all important role of training and preparing the youths to be useful members of the society have both failed playing their roles, leaving this assiduous task to the parents, hence 'the African proverb, "It takes a village to raise a child", epitomizes the importance of the role of the wider community in raising children and young people’. It is expected that these institutions through collaborative efforts should have provided the necessary guidance through wholesome educational programs to ensure the survival of its future generation of leaders. Thereby preventing avoidable deaths from illegal abortions by pregnant teenagers and dangerous sexually transmitted infections.


true, all hands must be on deck in educating a child but my question to you is, who has the bigger responsibility?


Definition of Terms
For clarity purpose, I shall define the key words in this discourse—
A parent simply put is a child's mother or father or a guardian.
A child has been defined differently. The Children and Young Persons Act, The Marriage Act, The African Charter on the Rights and Welfare of a Child all defines it to mean a person under the age of 14, 18 & 21 respectively. However, The Child's Right Act standardized the age of a child to be 18 yrs in all matters thus; we can rightly assert that a teenager is also a child.
Teenage period is a period when the child's sexual awareness is at its peak. This is the period of psychosexual developments between the onset of sexual maturity (puberty) and early adulthood, during which self identity, sex roles and relationship with other persons are defined by the young people. (Action Health Incorporated, 1996).
Sexual education as defined by Alli in Mba (2006:85) is a:
“Planned process of education that fosters the acquisition of factual information, the formation of positive attitudes, beliefs and values and the development of skills to cope with the biological, socio-cultural and spiritual aspects of human society”
Sexuality education simply means the presentation of every aspect of the sexuality of an individual exactly as it is, and equipping the individual with all options there are to enhance a better understanding of sexuality in its holistic manner. This ensures a proper understanding of an individual’s identity as well as his total view of sexuality as it concerns religious beliefs, ethics, rules and regulations.

Sexuality education ensures a better understanding of the influence of society on every day life. Thus, the ability to exercise self-control and determine one’s sexual behavior by conforming to certain principles as they concern sexual behaviors, are the bases of sexuality/sex education. In the opinion of Mba (2006:19) the following should constitute the content of sexuality education:

Human growth and development
Relationships
Life skills
Sexual attitude and behavior
Sexual health
Society and culture

People often believe that ‘’sex education’ ’refers only to sexual behavior i.e. sexual intercourse and not the full array of topics that comprise sexuality, but it goes far beyond that. These include information and concerns about abstinence, body image, contraception, gender, human growth and development, human reproduction, pregnancy, relationships, safer sex (prevention of sexually transmitted infections), sexual attitudes and values, sexual anatomy and behavior, sexual health and orientation, and sexual pressure. Parents are not expected to be versed in all these, which leave the larger burden on the shoulders of educators (government) to properly teach to teenagers in a safe and nonjudgmental environment so that young people can learn about sexuality in a healthy and positive context, and the media through public enlightenment
Parents as Sexual Educators
Parents, especially mothers are regarded as the primary conveyer of sexuality education to kids, as well as the first source of contact to which teens should come in contact with sexuality issues. But in a country where sexuality education has always been viewed as a prerogative of the married or soon to be married in the society, most Nigerian mothers due to cultural limitations and inhibitions prevent them from engaging in sincere discussions about sexuality and sex with their children, it becomes assiduous for parents to bear the larger percentage of this burden. This agrees with the views of Durojaiye (1972:69) that the Nigerian society believes that knowledge of sexual topics will lead to moral deterioration of young people and ignorance maintains innocence.

With a high rate of illiteracy in rural Nigeria, the task of placing sexuality education in the hands of these women is a dangerous precedence; hence, the only source of correct sexuality and sex is the school system. Appropriate information on sexuality and sex is a vital source of enhancing the quality of life of our youths, which they cannot be taught by their illiterate mothers. Also, since most parents hardly spend quality time with their children to discuss issues about life, little could be said to be achieved in that regard. This could be because our culture hardly encourages conversations between children and adults, talking down to children or ordering is a better accepted norm.

[quote author=Tamar1]Though some parents are more proactive in their approach to sex education, they however represent the minority. A recent national survey showed that eight in 10 parents want schools to teach their kids about sex education, an indication that kids aren't learning at home, only half of adolescents reported a "good talk" about sex with their mothers in the past year, and less than a third reported such a discussion with their fathers. This is where the schools (government) and the media become defined and onerous. If one goes by the multifarious social problems plaguing the Nigerian society in recent times, one will appreciate the urgent need for the government and other relevant bodies to wade in and give parents a helping hand in the appropriate education on issues concerning sex early in life[quote]

From the above research, it can be deduced that parents are neglecting their responsibility and leaving it in the hands of teachers, hence,.
"only half of adolescents reported a "good talk" about sex with their mothers in the past year, and less than a third reported such a discussion with their fathers."

Allotting the Blame

An early appreciation of the relationship between sex and health and a fulfilling life is of utmost importance since prevention is better than cure. Sexuality education reveals the intricacies of human physiology as youths gain a better understanding of the source of motivation both sexes, lust and passion of life. The dearth of information on sexuality has been the bane of our society. Without proper and factual socio-demographic characteristics of teens in the country, schools (government) lack the necessary ingredient (information) that would have served as a catalyst to curbing sexuality among teens. This would have formed a basic foundation of a lifelong educational process for the transition of teenagers to adulthood.

[quote author=Tamar1]It is in reference to the above that the greater burden falls upon the shoulders of the government (schools), the media and not the parents, through proper and adequate sexual education. Adequate information through a good sexuality education program that should have brought about responsibility in the expression of these teenagers sex life and responsibility in social relationships is therefore lacking. Who else is to blame for this if not the government, whose various agencies in health matters have been found wanting towards their duties and the media negating its duty of being the society’s watchdog.[quote]

Parents have a direct and one on one contact with these kids, not the media or government. A child firsts call of socialization is their parents

[quote author=Tamar1]Inadequate or poor knowledge of one’s sexuality can evoke a series of negative outcomes that could stifle and permanently jeopardize an individual’s wellbeing and therefore useful contributions to the development of society. This is because inadequate information about appropriate sexual behaviors can lead to at-risk sexual behaviors which have grave consequences that can impact negatively on our socio-economic life. It can ruin a whole generation and render the whole country stagnant for a long time. Where else can a child learn properly the consequences of engaging in illegal sexual activities if not in a school since teachers are usually equipped with the right tools to teach children about difficult but important matters of sexual health/sexuality.[quote]

A child can learn properly the consequences of engaging in illegal sexual activities first from the parents, the teachers only serve as their reminders.

This would have been achieved by schools providing proactive, continuing sex-education programs that start early and continue throughout high school, an education that would be age-appropriate, providing the necessary information in a gradual, natural way that corresponds to each stage of development. But the government has failed to provide schools with the necessary framework on which sex education would thrive, and well trained educators in the field of sexuality. This has created a huge void between teenagers and the type of information they receive which parents have been grappling with to fill.
With the world now becoming a global village media technology such as TV, MOBILE PHONES and the INTERNET has become a veritable tool of passing across information. These technologies without proper and strict regulations have left many parents unprepared for the challenge on how to regulate and monitor their child’s time with such technologies, exposing them to dangers of media effects with regards to viewing of explicit adult contents such as; pornography. In this wise, by directly linking the consequences of teenage sexual activities to media effects cannot be overemphasized.

Conclusion

With the sheer number of school dropouts among females due to unwanted pregnancies and ill health lends credence to the need for a sound sexuality education in our schools and increase in unnecessary loss of lives through STIs, abortion and poor care during pregnancies are also consequences of improper or poor sexuality education. Nigeria cannot continue to live in denial and isolation of other parts of the world, by solely expecting parents to bear the larger burden. Nigerian youths now experience their first sexual acts at an earlier age than their parents without adequate preparation and exposure to correct information like their counterparts in other cultures that are more sexually expressive; it therefore behooves on the government and media to properly educate these teenagers.

I say, schools (government) and the media, not the parents should be blamed for the consequences of sexuality in adolescents through lack of proper and adequate sexual education both in schools and the society in general. If this can be done, teenagers will develop the right type of attitudes about their sexuality if they are properly educated to do so. Government should as a matter of urgency make sex education a full curriculum subject in schools, while the media plays a backup role to the government by making use of its medium (TV, Magazines and Internet) to enlighten the public.

Thank You.

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All you did was share the blame which I quite agree with you but you should know that training up a child is first the responsibility of the parents and noone else so if these parents fail to, they should be held accountable

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Literature / Re: Who Is To Blame When A Child Has Sex Without Proper Knowledge - Live Debate by Boudicca: 6:48pm On Nov 25, 2012
Who is to blame when a child engages in sexual activities without the right knowledge about harms associated with such; is it the parents, media or teachers (government).
My stand, PARENTS.

Patricia C. Wass, the Coordinator of Sexual Assault Crisis Services in Connecticut wrote,
It is “only by opening up the discussion about sex and by beginning to talk to children at a young age, will we ever be able to protect them from abuse.

A pleasant evening to you all,

The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) defines a child as “a human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier.”

Parent.
1. One who begets, gives birth to, or nurtures and raises a child; a father or mother.
2. A guardian; a protector.

Sexual activity, also known as-
Human sexual practices or human sexual behaviors refers to the manner in which humans experience and express their sexuality which normally results in sexual arousal and physiological changes. These activities can be divided into acts which involve one person, such as masturbation, or two, or more people such as sexual intercourse, MouthAction, or mutual masturbation.



Many people and events influences the way a child develop both emotionally and socially, the parental units in the family plays the biggest role however. Children look up to parents as models for social behaviors, interactions, and appropriate emotional responses, not only do they look to their parents on how to behave or feel, they also learn from interacting with them. Especially in this culture of ours that bombards young teens with conflicting and often-confusing messages about sexuality, the quality of parents’ relationships can make a real difference in the decisions that their children make about sexual activities.
A number of reliable studies show that talking to teens about these issues helps delay the start of sexual activity, says Guilamo-Ramos. "When teens are making important decisions about their lives, like whether or not to have sex, they actually want guidance, and are absolutely interested in their parents providing them perspective," he says. "Parents are influential and somehow, they have missed that.

Teenagers who have been taught to be expressive by their parents learn to follow their own beliefs and are not afraid to speak up and tell someone that they don't want to do something if they know it is wrong. Independent youth don't feel that they need to be followers and do what the crowd is doing; if they know something is wrong, they will find something else to do that will make them unique. Parents teach what is right and what is wrong so their children can apply those beliefs in the social world around them and also avoid unnecessary problems. (Halloran, Ross & Carey, 2002).
Thus, when these social behaviors such as expressiveness and independence regarding sexual behaviors are taught by parents, teens become informed to make rational decisions, resist peer pressure, have fun in other ways and also cultivate a sense of responsibility towards others as well as oneself but when withheld, they are put at risk making them susceptible to social and sexual vices such as drugs, teenage pregnancies, misinformation from peers, epidemic of STD’s, cancers, rape and so on.

However, there are a number of reasons parents are reluctant to talk to their children about sexual activities. Prominent being, according to Chidi Ebere, the co-founder of Child Aid Survival and Development International (CASDI), the preservation of virginity, prevention of premarital sex, illegitimate pregnancy and abortion, religion and culture, as well as maintenance of family honor and dignity, among others. Contrary to this assumption, he said “a number of surveys have shown that girls who were not educated about sexuality, including changes during puberty are more likely to embark on sexual indiscretion and become pregnant during their teen years than those who were educated about sex."
Parents refusal to talk about these sexual activities, Wass said, did not mean that" children are safe, that nothing bad will happen to them. Only by opening up the discussion about sexual activities, and beginning to talk to children at young age, will we ever be able to protect them from abuse. Ultimately it will only be when sexual activity and sexual abuse are commonplace topics of conversation will perpetrators be held accountable. Only then would our society ever truly be able to prevent one of the most tragic things that can happen to a child.”

The bigger issue isn't simply whether these conversations are happening, but what's being conveyed through them, says Sinikka Elliott, an assistant professor of sociology at North Carolina State University in Raleigh
According to the study's findings:
-- 42% of parents say they've talked to their teens "many times" about how to say no to sex. But just 27% of teens say parents have talked that often.
-- 48% of parents say they've talked "many times" to their teens about when sex should or shouldn't take place; 29% of teens agreed.
-- 29% of parents say they've talked "many times" to their teens about birth control methods; 35% of teens say their parents "never" or just "once" discussed the issue.
-- 39% of parents say they've discussed the risks of sexting (sending sexually explicit text messages); 41% of teens say their parents "never" or "just once" discussed the issue.

Now this begs the question to parents that are actually talking, what are they telling their kids? Ponder on that.

Finally,
INFORMATION is POWER and
KNOWLEDGE, they say will SET ONE FREE

Therefore in this high-risk day and age, it is important for children and teens to be knowledgeably empowered with relevant information about sexual activities because it is safer for them to make informed choices than to make them out of ignorance, fear or shame.

Thank you…


Links
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_activities
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parent
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1606371
http://www.education.com/reference/article/Ref_Parental_Influence/
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Teen-Sex-Ed.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/cecile-richards/teens-sex-and-why-talking_b_1958927.html

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