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Amen oo.

this guy's work looks very good.

Hope he remains the same sha as money changes our brothers and sisters

mufutau55:
Very good work, my Boss.
May be one day you will be giving me a completion keys like this one. Allah dey.

Hajji M.

Very good tips.
We dey always learn from you, Madam

gabbytabby:
Aside from the rent default escalation, there are things I did without violating the agreement.

1-agreement says tenants are responsible for internal repairs but I relax this for good tenants and ask the bad ones to read their agreement. Making sure they see me do same for others.

2-I would sometimes carry out improvements but limit this to good tenants and wait for the bad ones to leave before I do the flat. I actually learnt this from the UK we put the bad payers at the bottom of the list of the improvement programme.

3-in one extreme situation which is well documented here I excluded from external painting. This facilitated their quick exit. Work in progress matter na there my money reach abi until debtors and freeloaders pay up

You have done very well.
Where in Surulere is this project?
I will love to visit it and get to meet you first hand

BITSWORKS:
Project nearing completion and handing over. Interlocking stone concluded and we are putting the final touches to the painting and other remedial works.

Client requested we add an additional 3 coaches to the rear perimeter wall. Tiling of the external water taps.

Hi there,
If doctor permits please can you post some pictures here of the paint work?
our site will need painting in next 3-4 months and I want to have ideas of what kind of paints are out there.
Thanks

csiworksnig:
Let me add to this post. Dr contacted me for his house painting..i did nt even knew he was from nairaland fromm a post i contributed to. I have never met him physically but from our conversation Dr listens and ask for your professional advice, he ask you what you think is best to achieve the right result, he is someone you can marry ideas together and get the best out of those ideas. Will be rounding up snags for the painting tomorrow.

I keep saying this. Na only Baba God fit save us from this.
We can try and implement certain things but when it comes down to the crunch na Baba God fit help us (unless you are wiling to take it to another level)

gabbytabby:
Ask baba God for wisdom, knowledge and understanding cos quite a number will say anything to get out of paying. You will hear a lot that will make you think what is happening here.

Things that you think are given like how many flats are in the building they will even argue cos they want you to tell the utility that there is 4 instead of 6.

They will say things like the way it's done is not to fully pay a bill as if you do nepa will increase the next bill.

If you are not careful they will send you on a wild goose chase of alternative ways things are done to reduce payment. I now ask the person suggesting to explore their option and they suddenly start to backtrack .

Sorry to hear that. As you know we can choose our friends but can't choose our family.
We are stuck with them so best to manage them as best possible. God will always help us.

gabbytabby:
Until I cut them off supporters club and all that was when they knew I meant it when I said back off. I also had to change all people that were working for me to prevent leakages and sentimental saboteurs. The less they know the better. I just refused to be blackmailed considering I gave money over the years to build her land and she had nothing to show for it but kept diverting.

I wished my dad was around life would have been easier.

Please leave your details here and I will reach out to you.

rotecch77:
@brag3; send me your contact for the quotation/ pictures

Pami for me please. sweet one. Haji you no mind ooooo if we add Suya join?

3strike:
this na End time father o....Anyways its friday again. Hajj can we order drinks for the good people in the house and can we put it on your tab as usual?

Thanks again. The landlord handbook just keeps getting bigger by the day

You should write a book on this ooo. You will make a killing.

gabbytabby:
Also good to have an information sheet for new tenants which tells them where important facilities are located and how to operate them.

Remember to include that Gas cylinders should be placed outside the kitchen and have in mind where this will be kept when designing the upstairs flats kitchen.

Thank you Madam Gabby. I rest my case.

gabbytabby:
I have come to realise that money does not buy class. Some just have no sense of hygiene or are just lazy. I would often times insist on meeting madam.

You know the saying you can take the boy out of the ghetto but not the ghetto out of the boy. In this case it was my most well off tenant that was the worst.

I can agree with you to some extent but trust me most of the rental market seems to have one bad story or the other.
Always someone trying to take someone for a ride or abuse one's hard earned living.
There is just way too much jealousy in this town which leads to so much beefing.
Tenants think landlord has so much money because he/she has properties for rent so they feel that need to make your life a misery until you show them that were pass were

olumide4christ:
Not always. Depends on your location which also a lot of times directly determines the level of your tenants. I don't think anybody living in the new building (3 No. 3-bedroom bungalows in a compound where the rent is N1.5 million per annum) opposite my house would indulge in such negative behaviour like Madam Gabbytabby spoke about above.

@rotecch77 , do you deliver to all areas in lagos Free of charge?
Can u send me a list of your Shower, WC and wash hand basin sets?
I need about 20 of these so will appreciate a variety of your products.

rotecch77:
More coming

Interesting. This whole rental biz sounds like a big pain...

gabbytabby:
Just some lessons learned along the way be careful where you site your external taps. Make sure it's well at the back as some tenant use it as an extention of their flat and will brush their teeth, wash plates and food, place their baby bottoms by the tap and wash baby poo bottoms etc right on the floor by the tap.

This is despite having kitchen and 3 toilets.

Haba 3strike. how u go talk this.
Na una be the original Americanas oo.
Abeg vote for the right man oo. Maybe another Obama

3strike:
Baba na people wey get Papers dey vote o. Pple like us no fit..

House,

Please I need to get some 35mm Coleman Reclen Cables.

Does anyone know the current cost per meter? Also places where I can get them.

Abeg I want original oo. No Fakes please

I have been offered a few fakes (I can't imagine how we will even allow fake cables in this country)

This is one of the many fire hazzards that we face everday.

House,

Please I need to get some 35mm Coleman Reclen Cables.

Does anyone know the current cost per meter? Also places where I can get them.

Abeg I want original oo. No Fakes please

I have been offered a few fakes (I can't imagine how we will even allow fake cables in this country)

This is one of the many fire hazzards that we face everday.

@Brabus,
Whilst patience is always necessary you have to admit Maverick has been very patient on this subject.
We have all waded in with our opinions (which to be honest) don't count for much because
a) this is a faceless forum and b) this is between you and Maverick
But you do have to admit that you seem to be chancing your luck here and hoping that it will go away or should I use your exact words "die natural death"

I will just like to see you hit the nail on the head and say once for all if you plan on making the refund or not.
This discussion has festered on for too long and tbh it seems like you don't have any plans on making any refunds.

I hope I am wrong

brabus:
@ crisisng, na patience no be war go resolve this matter. Maverrick no fit fight me. He's just bittered at the moment. He'll soon get over it. But I think this case will die natural death if we let the sleeping dogs lie.

I'm open for dialogue and further discussion on the subject matter on other platform apart from this forum. You may want to setup a group chat for us to discuss a final resolve.

Meanwhile, I'm in discussion with 3strike at the moment that I'm doing this on the condition that he's ready to make peace with EgunMogaji. He's still doing the shakara but he knew I won't back out until he gives in.

Let's make the world a better place.

Wow, Are you serious? No way.
This is a rough biz ooo.

gabbytabby:
I am thinking about this more cos of personal protection cos if you see how odaran eye tenant just barge into my apartment and stand for middle despite visibly seeing that I had a visitor with me and not minding that. The person actually said she found it scary and he could put his hand round my neck if I was alone and this is coming from a woman who is feared even by local omonile

Prince Ke. I be tenant oooo

3strike:
Brag you be prince?

Best to import some BIG bulldogs from Yankee. When any tenant no pay set them on him/her.

Rent go drop next day

3strike:
Madam am glad we are all learning a thing or two from one another here. I think Landlords should start implementing some of the points I suggested last week ( Doing Simple Background Check)

3strike:
@ Brokensword: looks like Egunmogaji oko afusa is offering you a full scholarship ride to any builder's skol of your choice in the U.S. you just need to read between the lines

Congrats bro!

Thats how re roll in naija ooo.
We no send landlords oo as long we dey cruise for our hummer.

3strike:
Oga brag abeg o...Me just they laugh ni o. Adeekiti never cease to make me Laugh. Check this out tho how Person get BMW and Hummer and still dey owe rent of 450K? What happens to selling the engine and the gear box of the Hummer to raise the money?

I know say 3strike will love the sound of this.
Oga 3strike I may need your boys as well oooo

adeekiti:
thats very true my oga, the system of tenant boldly requesting that he's entitled to that 3/6months to vacate your property. Lot of scenarios where you see landlord bring in thugs to evict tenants from his property. Some landlords won't even allow the tenant to stay a week after his rent is due

Madam Gabby,
You try oo. Let him kill off the rest of his family with his bad prayers. He will soon reap the rewards of his evil deeds.
It just amazes me how people just think they can piss over your blood and sweat.
After all all the leeway you have given him he still chooses to play macho man.
Only God can save us in this country.

gabbytabby:
He is slowly killing off his family cos of rent. Uncle died in Jan. This Saturday na him brother die .

Twinskenny. He has seven days to vacate I will be at igbosere magistrate court as I want to explore self representation first.

Engr Opalu is this your kitchen? the thing fine well well ooo

opalu:
Happy val to you all.
Your kitchen deserves the best for out of it proceeds sustenance of life

I dont get this.
Tenant never pay rent for 3 months and I still need to give him time to get another place?
What has he been doing in that 3 months? watching DSTV?

adeekiti:
but at the end of the whole issue, you might av to give your tenant time to get another place for him/herself.. Na your property, no amount of craze your tenant fit get, you still have the right to do anything to evict the tenant

Na wah o.

It has become a sin to become a landlord in Nigeria.

Oga lastpage you suppose form your own agency o. You sabi all the means to extract bad tenants

lastpage:
Have you not heard that when you see a Landlord and Tenant playing Lovey-Dovey ...... something is just not right!
The "peace" between those two, in most cases, is usually temporary! One wants to collect money owed him legitimately, the other thinks he is not supposed to pay such money or that such money is an entitlement for him to become "Lord" over the landlord!
There is no "peaceful way" to deal with a bad tenant!

My nice tenants get gifts, at the end of the year. They know they can rely on me to deal with any "neighbourhood trouble" on their behalf.
I also help/encourage them to buy land and 'build something' for themselves. I have done a few "Tenant house warming" over the years.

Then there are the "Stubborn-He-Goats" amongst them.
They think they are smart and can play "games' with my rent and property!
Some have even threatened to live in my property for years without paying rent, saying they will continue to bribe the Court Registrar, to keep adjourning the Eviction process, .....if l take them to court!

Well, for such ones, l let them know that l am not a Landlord by chance! Courts are a waste of time!
I be proper "Ijebu man" wey learn from "elders" for yonder.

By the time one Tenant started having strings of calamity, one after another........ it wasn't long before his Pastor advised him to do "deliverance" for his entire family and leave that house!

If na to put "Agbaa'no" inside im purse, ....one financial problem or the other, we get am
if na to invite sickness or make him prone to sudden "accidents" like breaking legs/arms/shoulders by falling on a harmless staircase, we get am
If na to make his nightmares so bad that fighting in Sambissa forest will look like Boy-Scout jamboree, we get am
If na to use Agadangodo to "lock im car" so tey mechanic will begin to wonder whether it was the same oyinbo that did the car or not, we get am!
If na to touch am with "very tiny" madness, wey im go begin speak to imself, we get am.

Since im no wan commot my house and im no wan pay me, then he must be prepared to "eat and dine with the Devil", as long as im remain in that house.
One foolish man from yonder even go call Police (upon say im no wan commot my house peacefully) say im dey see strange things around his entrance door!
I asked the Police to charge me to court so that he can present his evidence to a Judge..... but it appears he is the only one seeing the "strange things"!
I therefore put it to the Police that he is beginning to suffer "mental disorder" and should be sent to a Psychiatrist!
But ofcourse, that was the purpose of the whole exercise sha. Just "small touch" of madness!
he moved out within three weeks ...but l collect every kobo im owe me before allowing him to escape.

So Bros, depending on the location and type of tenant, the measures are usually different.
Some sef, na to organise Boyz to always vandalize im vehicle, every alternate week days, for im to know say, he is no longer wanted in that area.

There was a time we had one "Baba" who was a rent Collector. If he visits you to collect rent, just make sure the rent is ready, when he comes back otherwise the person's household will "change" from that day! Fadeyi-Oloro sef na child's play compared to this evil Baba!
Man died in a ghastly car accident on his way back to Ilorin, after finishing some nasty work.

But l tell you, if you have a good tenant who takes care of your property like their own, who pays his or her rent as at when due and generally behave themselves, you need to treasure that tenant and even give then a "break" at times. I have a few like that.

More "orthodox ways" include using Housing/Property Agents like JJJide TTTTaiwo, DDDDayo FFFatimehin..... but be assured that those guys will trick and cheat you out of your rent at most times, if you are not extra vigilant, especially the former one l mentioned
They will rent out your property and not even inform you at all. They will increase your property's rent, wont tell you and keep the excess! I have seen cases like that so often.

Eitherway, the very nature of "Landlord and Tenant" relationship, is like that of a Cat and Mouse,.... the survival of one, may lead to the death of the other (figuratively speaking) !


Lastpage!

It never seizes to amaze me how many times you hear such stories in our beloved Nigeria.
People getting jobs and then eating the hand that feeds them just because money don enter hands.
So many clients for our decent builders to make a good living yet some bad ones always choose to spoil things.
Fash, I feel your pain but believe that it will end well.
You have gone very far my brother so you will complete it in no time.
I will steal Oga 3strike's quote and say "dont let their reggae spoil your blues" ooo

fash78:
Hello.my peeps. I won't like to join issues with Elfad Consult but I think since I opened this thread because of him and he is no more engaged by me, then I should say something.
1. It is true that I have fired him and he is no more working on my project.
2. Elfad is rude, arrogant and way too pompous to deal with. How else can you describe somebody you engaged to do a work for you and you are paying a huge sum of money and same person is telling you the client "you can't dish instructions to me". I believe he who pays the piper dictates the tune. Folks like Muyensky can testifies to his rudeness.
3. His competency is not in doubt but my peeps I am weary about his preaching on prices, fees and quality. I have had complaints about him from people that saw his work here and engaged him about his cut throat fee. I am afraid I am also a victim of that. Most of you didn't know that he refused to supervise the fence construction for this project claiming it is not in scope of what was negotiated. He was asking for N500 , 000! Extra to supervise the fence. Of course I refused and did the fence all by myself with the help of my cousin and my friend who is also a civil engineer. The total amount spent on the fence is not even up to 1.5M. Another example of his cut throat fee is when I wanted to engage him for another project for my dad building (4 bedroom bungalow ) in the village. His asking price again was N500 , 000 for supervision fee. Of course I engaged another person with a more reasonable fee and the house is built now within 3 months.
4. I paid the plumber and electrician through him because they work for him. We negotiated with the plumber and electrician for the whole project. As of today he has collected 80 percent of the total money negotiated with the plumber and 63 percent of the total money negotiated for electrician yet we are at the piping stage for both plumbing and electrical work. The plastering work is not yet completed because his plumber and electrican refused to finish the piping work they have been paid to do. We started plastering since last year November. The plumber has refused to come and compete all the bathroom piping work up till now. Elfad lame excuse is that all the materials the plumber needed was not provided when he came to site so he has taken another job. But please help me ask him even if that is true, since last year November the plumber have only come to site twice and the work is still not done. The painful aspect is that the additional materials he requested was bought 3 times now because each time Elfad promised to bring the plumber to complete the job and we bought the material, the plumber won't show up and the material will be stolen. This has happened 3 times now. Each time i bought this material it cost me almost 30K. After the third time and I reported to Elfad you asked me to buy this material and yet your plumber didn't come to site to do the work and the material is stolen yet again. His response is "it is a shame".

Guys I don't want to bore you with long epistle. As you can see I am deeply hurt with Elfad. He is not a random person that I know. We are from the same town and he is one of my Pastors' son. It hurts me that he could get to a level where he exchanges insulting and derogatory words with me. He has used statement like "shallow thinkin", "full of yourself ", and other statements I never expected from him to me because 1. I am not his age mate and secondly we are like family.

Elfad I have bared it all here. I won't dignify you with any response here. I said all the above to put the record straight.

Oga 3strike,

Are you saying this has not been closed?

Sir Maverick what is the latest on this?

We assumed that you guys had kissed and made up offline. Is this not the case?

3strike:
So whats the latest on Maverick vs Bosun brabus(Nexthome)? Have they settled the issue of FAKE building approval?

Maverick I will like to hear from you sir. Any compensation yet from Bosun?

Cc Maverick, Excuzeme, Hajji, egunmogaji oko afusa, gabbytabby and good Nigerians.

Sorry to hear that.
Hope the split was amicable and I wish you both well on your future projects.
Not all business transactions go smoothly but as long as all parties keep it Civil life will surely go on.

Baba Fash, you have a fantastic project going on. Kudos to you and your team.

We will touch base soon.

elfadconcept04:
Hello folks, I like to mention here dt as at 2day Feb 10th 2016, I no longer work for Mr Fash.
This is due to some differences and divergent view on site communication, Clients role / contractors role/responsibility n dignity of labor..
Nevertheless I wish him Well and who ever he engages to complete his project.
For as many who have viewed my work, those who av contacted me, those I av designed for or done some civil jobs for, u can attest dt, my craftmanship, experience, supervision skil and ability to reduce construction cost is not in question.
For as many who r on Nairaland to seek quality n qualified artisans n professionals, u will find..
Dont b blinded by cheap at all cost syndrome Bt be mindfull of d quality n prices u c in some pages/treads, u cant confirm d quality vis-a-vis d relatively low cost u c some Engrs / property owners post.
All d suppliers on Nairaland can confirm dt u can never cheat a supplier/some artisans, de will give u d quality dts commensurate with d price u r willing to pay. They say cheap is never quality bt dt those not mean u shld b naive..
On a final note. Conflict is a normal thing in every construction site, de can b resolved Depending on d maturity of d parties n Wat provisions d contract stipulates, provided, Deris a contract.
Nevertheless It was Mr fash's idea to open ds tread to showcase my work, I did foot drag bt he went ahead to open ds tread. Which I appreciate, I might not contribute on ds page/ tread anymore bt like I av mentioned earlier, i wish Mr Fash well..