₦airaland Forum

ono:
International observers? In US elections?? Has it gotten that bad Na wa o oo o. Why should I trust this story? How do I believe now that it's not from Hell's pit?

yes international observers! damn! You're so ignorant

budaatum:
The art of his deal!

https://theweek.com/speedreads/948766/trumps-flurry-campaign-defense-fund-emails-have-fine-print-about-retiring-trumps-campaign-debt

why should another con be a surprise?
The only surprise is the number of people who you would have thought would know better not to be grifted this way but I'm learning to never put anything beyond people who willingly chose to forgo reason and feed demagoguery

PrideofLincoln1:
I am surprised people are still engaging these unpaid Cultists with mental problems over Trump losing the election. On Jan 20, 2021 at exactly 12.01pm on the steps of the Capitol, President Joseph Biden will be sworn in and these mental midgets will still be hungry with their torn okrika T Shirts and Faded Torn Jeans still foaming in the mouth about their Cult leader being rigged out of the Oval Office.

it is my trolling mode activated what is more funnier than a magatard crying blue murder over biden's victory currently?

AmazonTopaz:
It is actually Biden supporters trending it to mock republicans and their supporters to be discouraged from voting in future elections.
Check the tag you will see it for yourself they are all Biden supporters mocking the GOP.
Operation MAGA is a parody account that mocks MAGAts

shhhhhhh did you have to tell them? we want ease of passage to those two Georgian senatorial seats afterall

https://www.facebook.com/colbertlateshow/videos/765383797385100/

budaatum:
Here is not a place to come for amusement, unless its amusement you make of "the apparent descent into lunacy of some peeps".

I think of their followers, as they tend to have many of them, and educate them all for amusement. They never admit they learn but the education forever lingers in their minds and its the only way to stem the descent into lunacy.

I confess I am not as magnanimous as you I will get there eventually but for now, I'm sipping delicious maga tears

Arrewa:
allow them to chest beat in peace!

Ordinary onions way we no supply go south for 2 days una cry up and down!


Okoro is from the north... You people don't have Okoro. "Kubewa"

You don't have onions!

You don't have goats in commercial quantity You only have goats in some village compound.

We provide you with goats... Go to the express and see hundreds of trailers of goats moving down your region.

Na we dey give una that Jacky! "Donkey" Cos una like Jacky meat die!

We give you guys pepper!

We dey give una maize

We give you everything!

I mean everything including fruits

point of correction! You give diddley squat or Nada! You sell you don't give! Fun fact if we don't buy from you, we will buy from someone else and you'd be the loser! We give you the proceeds of our crude oil resources, now that is giving because you give absofuckinglutely nothing back in return and that is why you are parasites we won't miss if Nigeria breaks up! Every thing we buy from you we can grow if we cared to, we leave the subsistence to you! Don't grow wings! You need your people in government to institute and enforce policies mandating us to patronise your substandard agricultural products or we will be importing better quality agricultural products we can't produce, there's no way your farmers will survive without us, you can't export your products because of the low quality and there's no bigger market for them than southern Nigeria so show some respect boy

Arrewa:
the north will never be useless!

without a southern market, the motivation to farm will be reduced and the north useless so yes you can be useless to the south, you are already parasitic and that is also uselessness

budaatum:
Sometimes though, its much fun educating them.

the saltiness here is cringe worthy, I came here to get a good laugh and end up being concerned about the apparent descent into lunacy of some peeps

ono:
You don't want to get in on this with me, trust me. basilico is enough to take care of you.

and i can take care of you both! If i care to, but that is stepping too many levels below me for now, so I'll pass......enjoy your delusions

Bluebyrd:
Democrats and the media ridiculed Trump for his efforts to fast-track the vaccine development process.

He was right, again!

right how? By having absolutely nothing to do with Pfizer's vaccine development? You high or something?

basilico:
Of course the whole world wants a vaccine. Who is Pfizer's first customer?

how does being a first customer equate to being responsible for the development of the vaccine? Despite your support of trump, I consider intelligent unlike many others here, don't prove me wrong

salford1:
Alot of Trumptards won't understand a Venn diagram. They are that dull and stoopid

lol Venn of negatives

SenecaTheYonger:
It’s a good source and there’s nothing special about your memory. The video is not even biased, I can see why you wouldn’t like it.

I wouldn't know, based on the source that posted it first on Twitter, I refuse to watch it! Kapiche!

raumdeuter:
His records look like another extreme politician and wont be encouraged

As we are speculating about the breakdown of the Republican party, also be prepared for a civil war in the democratic party between the far left and the moderates the AOC vs the Pelosi. If you see the tone on this thread you will already see that brewing. There is no common enemy in Trump to fight now so they will fight themselves. Socialists vs Moderates.

The regular independent is tired of both extreme and just want rational people in politics

They don't want to defund police, they don't want burning and looting on the streets, they don't want Qanon bullshiit, and racist dog whistle

BTW, why are the pissed Republicans not burning their cities down

is the regular independent against a government option healthcare insurance that doesn't discriminate based on preexisting conditions?
Is the regular independent against increasing the minimum wage and improving social security?
Is the regular independent against holding the police to the same standards and rules of engagement the military are held to?
Is the regular independent pro punitive for profit prison system at the taxpayers expense or a reform of the judiciary system eliminating racial bias, school to prison pipeline, prisons as a reformation and rehabilitation centre and not for punishment?
Is the regular independent against stronger gun control laws?
Is the regular independent against higher taxes for the richest 1% as was obtained in the golden age of Americas economy from the 1950's to 1980's before trickle down Reaganomics?
Is the regular independent against strong workers unions?
Is the regular independent against tuition free quality public education from kindergarten to college level?
Is the regular independent against removing private money and lobbying from politics and the inherent strings attached?

Answer those questions first as a regular independent, there are more to be asked and answered

budaatum:
Spanberger’s view was echoed by Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) on “Meet the Press”: “I don’t think the American people want to sign up for the Green New Deal. … I don’t think they’re interested in Medicare-for-all or higher taxes that would slow down the economy.” But this diagnosis is at odds with the numbers. A near-majority of voters in swing districts supported the Green New Deal. Fifty-three percent of Americans support Medicare-for-all (and 70 percent support a public option). In exit polls, 57 percent of voters expressed support for Black Lives Matter. In Florida, while moderate Democrats up and down the ticket fell flat, voters passed the $15 minimum wage that the left has been pushing for years. As Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) observed, every swing-district House Democrat who co-sponsored Medicare-for-all kept their seat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/08/democratic-leaders-play-ridiculous-blame-game-with-progressives/

yet they keep on regurgitating Republican corporate framed talking points of far left socialism instead of using simple polls to guide their opinions on what the public wants, even polls on fox news confirmed as much to my surprise! Yet democrats want to field so called centrist neo-republican candidates and expect to win and when they lose they blame it on their liberal wing making them unmarketable! The irony of it all is frustrating but that is what happens when you live in an echo chamber! Democrats if they cared the least to educate even the rural voters would find out that they have the strongest policies that will positively affect rural Americans but they are too lazy to do that and would rather engage republicans in a tug of war to appeal to sentiments instead of logic and reason! A tug of war they most often than not lose

AmazonTopaz:
He won't even win.

Why him?I hear Nikki Haley and South Dakota governor have eyes for 2024 no wonder those two women were cozy to Trump

my money is on Tucker Carlson to win nomination if he contests, you will notice that trumps policies were subtly framed by talk show hosts especially Tucker Carlson and Rush Limbaugh, tucker is the intelligent smooth talking extremist who can sound moderate and in trumpolini's GOP, the kingmakers know this already, besides Tucker already spoonfeeds trumps base and they are already his for the taking

SenecaTheYonger:
Your replies aren’t word salad? Lmfao... if only you knew. Also what you’ve just said is wrong. Every president knows about this, every one of them. Why would knowing it means it must be exploited? Most of them are honorable men and wouldn’t want America to become a banana republic. The fact that something hasn’t been used doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. What of your own interpretation of that part of the constitution then? Where is it? Let’s see your own interpretation.

oh other presidents knew? and according to you they were too honourable to exploit it but not Donald okechukwu trumpolini! Well, what do i know? I'm just a mere brain interactive construct! I guess come January 20th, you and I will learn something new

P.S I never watched the video, not when I first saw it on Twitter and not here, there are certain sources of info I don't stain my memory with

edi287:
Tom Cotton will be GOP candidate in 2024.

hmm, why so certain?

SenecaTheYonger:
Why should you? That's the reason I brought the video here. I was looking for a good counter but you were quick to see it as an attack. Error in interpretation is still nothing. You've still said nothing. You can at the very least pick one point that was interpreted wrongly and correct it.

in the absence of precedence, "error in interpretation" is everything! My replies aren't a word salad meant to obfuscate, they are literarily my actual replies! Unless you want to tell me this man was the first to gain this insight since the founding fathers drafted the constitution and classic iconoclasts like J.F. Kennedy and Abe Lincoln weren't smart enough to exploit this wrong interpretation

SenecaTheYonger:
Not really. You haven't presented any other argument other than running around in circles.

why should I? Error in interpretation not good enough for you?

Ibime:
Harris herself is a moderate so any promises she makes to the hard-left will not be taken too seriously. All she needs to do is temper her language and promise the centrists something also. Obama was good at that.

I wouldn't care much personally if both candidates are centrist and wouldn't even vote cos both satisfy what I need from Government which is stability. That's you guys internal matter, but if you pitch a hard-left candidate against a GOP moderate, you will definitely lose.

good thing you're only analysing Kamala's prospects and saying nothing about tucker Carlson's and therein is your dilemma, against a Carlson who do you think kamala would need more? Liberals or undecideds? because a fascist or trump opponent to unite voters across the aisle isn't an every election occurrence

SenecaTheYonger:
Oh, then you must not have watched the video, because nothing about that is "stretching imagination too far", it's pretty simple and straightforward.

to you it is and of course I understand why hence why I described it as "grasping at straws" it is a case of confirmation bias you're drowning in the ocean, you see a killer whale sunbathing in the distance and you insist it must be a schooner and refuse to accept any other argument

Ibime:
They most likely will based on the GOP current base, which is why staying centrist is more profitable.

Besides next election will be halfway through a potential Biden/Harris 8 year term. A party cannot pivot halfway through their own leadership. That's tantamount to usurping yourselves ie creating the argument that Biden/Harris are not doing avoid job which is cutting off your nose on the National stage. A party divided cannot win the Nation.

okay pit a kamala Harris against a tucker Carlson, who should the democratic candidate appeal to? Liberals or undecideds?

Ibime:
If you have a fascist opponent like Trump, you don't need to worry much about your liberal base cos they will show up. If the GOP present a moderate candidate next time, then you can worry about your base. Right now, the GOP is so extreme that the winning formula for Dems is to claim the centre, not mirror the GOP, simple.

150 million people voted this election. How many are registered party members for Dems and GOP. Subtract that from 150m, that should tell you roughly the size of the undecuded pie. It's not a number to be sniffed at.

the next Republican opponent most likely won't be trumpist or fascist, what do you suggest the democratic party do then given all we have discussed?

Thattallgirl:
I wish us the best o

I know me too

Ibime:
Whether you appreciate it or not, some people (undecideds) just don't care about politics that much, while other undecideds are very inforned but selfish and only judge politics on what's in it for them. I fall into the second category, and mostly vote on tax issues and decency of candidates rhetoric (I don't vote based on moral issues like abortion, religious views, gay rights etc, I only care about my safety as a black man). A white man in the same position could overlook Trumps racist invectives cos it doesn't affect him directly rather than vote for Sanders who he knows may hammer his taxes.

so a political aspirant should then go scouting for probable(undecideds) votes before first securing his likely votes in his base(liberals) right? In what world is that a recipe for victory? That Hillary failed at that wasn't apparent enough to you

shegzhkn:
Not a single unified body, i will cop to that.

Unseat Nancy, Not going to happen.

might not unseat Nancy but the fact that some are considering it says a lot

SenecaTheYonger:
I guess this is you *I yield* speech. [s]Well, not a lot of people knew about this part of the constitution until recently.[/s] more like, no one was daft enough to draw this conclusion about that part of the constitution until now see? I made it easier for you

oh my "I yield"? damn! I like you already at least you make me laugh a part of the constitution nobody knew about until recently? when i say you are grasping at straws you say I'm insulting, like I corrected you, it is not about the law, it is about the interpretation and that interpretation is stretching imagination too far that's the simplest explanation I can give you, if that fails I give up

Ibime:
The liberal voters will just not sit out an election where Trump is on the ballot. They will even vote an orangutan over Trump. The reason some sat out the last election is cos they believed the polls that Hilary would win, and were treating their absence as a protest vote. Election na simple Mathematics.

so you agree then that trump and not policy is the reason for the liberal vote! If that reasoning can apply to liberals and rebel republicans why can't it apply to undecideds?

shegzhkn:
I trust Nancy, she will do right by joe biden.

Nancy is only a shepherd, the sheep have minds of their own and even now there is a plot to unseat Nancy by the right wing extremists of the democratic party over the poor performance of democratic party candidates losing some elections and replacing her with one of her extreme assistants one black conservative democrat whose name I've forgotten! He denied it of course, so I'm just saying the democrats are not a single unified body

SenecaTheYonger:
This is not a counter, but good job beating around the bush. I’m sure a few daft people here are impressed. Maybe wait for someone to drop a rebuttal so you can rephrase it. Lol Brainiac my a55

even in law there us jurisprudence and precedence so when I gave you my reasons why that is a fringe argument and the people who espouse it daft because they are known or expected to be more intelligent than that you call it beating around the bush what else can I say? I'm just a mere brain interactive construct afterall