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May her soul rest in peace and condolence to the bereaved

Fiscus105:
If woman wears mask, which is not random club girl you met for night out, maybe when you have already heavily drunk, but normal toasting and dating in day light and you fall for this gimmick.......... your brain is still reasoning like 5 years old toddler.

Can you pass your message without throwing insult?

This is mission impossible level o, I mean someone can walk into a place, commit a crime with fake identity like mission impossible level of disguise and get away, also come to think of it, if the person is arrested, he or she needs to only ask to use the rest room and boom the person can walk away with a different identity while they keep looking for the fake identity in the building.

Also doesn't this mean the girls doing these are actually committing a crime against the men they are going out with, is it not like a man giving a lady fake money after having a time with here?

Samantha125:
I'm done talking about this... If you want to talk about your Chichi, find someone else.

There is a similar patter of behavior between you SA people and a particular tribe in Nigeria and I have studied that particular tribe in Nigeria and discovered why they behave the way they behave and discussing with you has also helped me know(to some extent) why you people behave the way behave just like that particular tribe in Nigeria.

I was not interested in knowing more about SA tribes and their history, but my conversation with you has made me curious to know more, I want to be sure if what I am thinking is true or not based on what I know about this particular tribe in Nigeria.

Samantha125:
And you think we haven't been calling out our government, submitting memorandum of demands to our municipalities, and holding it responsible? Clearly you don't know what you're talking about, we'd even sometimes hire buses from other provinces just to go to the Union Buildings in Pretoria to submit our memorandum of demands.

Protests are always our last resorts.

There is something I am trying to point out to you, but you may never see it, the reason is: your ideology, it has a similar pattern, not just you but anyone supporting the xenophobic attacks on immigrants(legal or illegal).

For instance, let me ask you a question:

Do you think disqualifying Chidinma from the SA beauty contest was right?

Samantha125:
Like I said, when the government is sloppy, the people shall govern.

Well, I'm only pointing out that blame should not be thrown to only illegal immigrants...

Samantha125:
If you call patriotism xenophobia, then a big fat YES... Do you expect us to sit down and do nothing while these people steal, harass, grape, threaten, and kill innocent South Africans?

Only a broken soul with sympathise with them.

Then you are simply admitting that your government has failed, if you people are doing illegally what your government is supposed to legally...

Samantha125:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plpU6vO6UYk?si=J5sqHC8rBmIe8bn6

So all these are your justification for the xenophobic attacks on foreigners?

Samantha125:
🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0RR3HUU9qgc

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r9bgzFwNXPY

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wrdqVl1rWhE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWlF4lrf1Fg&pp=ygUjaW1taWdyYW50cyBhdHRhY2tlZCBpbiBzb3V0aCBhZnJpY2E%3D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLczhLjHPCA&pp=ygUjaW1taWdyYW50cyBhdHRhY2tlZCBpbiBzb3V0aCBhZnJpY2E%3D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5mY0rBEbNE&pp=ygUjaW1taWdyYW50cyBhdHRhY2tlZCBpbiBzb3V0aCBhZnJpY2E%3D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRCvtfr9juw&pp=ygUjaW1taWdyYW50cyBhdHRhY2tlZCBpbiBzb3V0aCBhZnJpY2E%3D

Samantha125:
Story for the gods... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Goodbye...💃💃💃

Just Negodu, the truth remains the truth and you know it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzpEq0LOVt8?si=r87oU1266qOpEClf

Samantha125:
I have more...🤣🤣🤣

Samantha, you are funny o!

What am I supposed to do with all these pictures na?

If you like show me 1000 pictures , it does not erase the fact that your people attack immigrants doing jungle justice on them

Samantha125:
I don't see anything relating these murders to "xenophobic attacks"

These fatalities are probably a result of their usual cult wars or just an unfortunate incident which could've happened to anyone... Crime affects everyone here in SA, it doesn't matter whether you're a South African, legal, or illegal foreign national.

So that's how you people kill each other over there right?

Including Police extra judicial killings right?

Samantha125:
You're not answering my question, you can't expect me to give you straight answers when you can't do the same, it only makes you a hypocrite.

And I'm asking you to provide me with evidence of illegal immigrats being killed unprovoked for merely being illegal and not in anyway involved in any illegal dealings.

Your question

Answer below

Samantha125:
Would it be fair if I come to you and start accusing you of a serious crime based on hearsay without any evidence?

What evidence do you want?

If you need evidence of Nigerians killed in SA through xenophobic attacks, I can present that for you, but telling me to bring evidence that the Nigerians killed were innocent people is absurd...

Because my point is not whether they were innocent or guilty of whatever crime they committed because that is not angle of my argument.

But that they were killed illegally by your people, and if you don't see a problem in that but condemn Nigerians doing things illegally in SA then you are only being a hypocrite....

Because you are using illegality to fight illegality but believe that your own illegality is not a crime against humanity and then condemn those you are fighting as the only bad people when you are equally bad or even worse than them.

jidesp:
It’s ok boss. You don try. As you no get evidence. Leave the matter. Make we face the lnguage issue

I never told her I had any evidence, please show me where I claimed to have evidence of what she is asking for, so I find it very absurd for her to hinge on that, also I have stated there is no evidence for what she is asking for which I never made claim about, so what then does she want to make for defense ?

I'm asking a simple question, does she justify the xenophobic killings of Nigerians who have committed offenses in South Africa by her people, and then she is asking me for evidence of Nigerians who have been killed who have committed no offense,

That is diversion....

The issue here is very simple, she is trying to make it complex to avoid answering that question which is simple and plain which:

Have South Africans not killed Nigerians(who committed offense or not) through xenophobic attacks in South Africa and is she in support of it?

There is nothing complex here, she should answer the question straight
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jidesp:
The narrative you’re pushing, implies you want her to take the blame for what’s happening to Nigerians in South Africa. She made her statement clear and every point she made didn’t support the killing. Her reference implies how the narrative is perceived and she informed you on the certain facts in South Africa from a Citizen of that country.

This is a situation of dual perspective. No matter how the narrative is painted in Nigeria. Her point is, it’s not 100% as described in the media. Certain bad eggs just makes it easier for Good Nigerians to Thrive in that country.

I tire for you o brother. Na she kill person ni

Can you show me in any of her statement where she said she doesn't support the killings of Nigerians who have committed offenses in SA by her people throughout our conversation, present it and I will apologize to you and her...

Samantha125:
And have told you that without evidence, the discussion is over.

Bye.

So since there is no evidence, you want to force me to make one, I have told you there is no evidence, I have searched there is no evidence, what then do you want me to do?

Samantha125:
Provide me with evidence first.

I have told you there is no evidence, so for a second, let us assume you are right since I can't provide any evidence that those being killed by your people did not commit, so let us both assume for a second that they all committed offenses in SA, my question, are you saying that they deserved to die by xenophobic attacks through the hands of your people?

Samantha125:
This discussion is over.

So you cannot answer my question after I answered all your questions, and yet you said you will answer mine when I answer yours...

Samantha125:
And I'm asking you to provide me with evidence of illegal immigrats being killed unprovoked for merely being illegal and not in anyway involved in any illegal dealings.

Because without any evidence, then it means the information is just nothing but a lie that was fabricated against us in order to make us look bad for being patriotic and wanting to do what is right by our people.

So until you have evidence to support your claims, this discussion is over because I don't have the energy to be entertaining speculations.

Ok there is no evidence too, so are you saying that those involved in illegal dealings deserved to die by xenophobic attacks by the hands of your people?

May their souls rest in peace.

Samantha125:
Provide me with evidence of your people being unalived by "xenophobic jungle justice attacks" for merely being illegal immigrants and not in anyway involved in any illegal dealings.

I have told you there is no evidence, I have no evidence, so answer my own question, are you saying those that were killed by xenophobic jungle justice attacks deserved it because they were illegal immigrants or illegitimate ?

Samantha125:
No, you haven't... I asked if you can provide me with evidence of your legit and law abiding brothers who were unalived by the alleged "xenophobic attacks"?

Ok, the answer is none, so are you saying those that were killed by xenophobic jungle justice attacks deserved it because they were illegal immigrants or illegitimate ?

jidesp:
Here is where I find your questions surprising.

The fact that you’re asking such a question simply means you still don’t comprehend the context. And, the opportunity to have a conversation with a South African, you simply want to spring all the issues of that country through one person here.

I never justified Killing of illegal Immigrant. However, their status is “Void Ab Initio” - their status is void from the beginning. They may be exposed to all sort of treatments included police pressure.

I won’t indulge you if your next question is not related to the Topic.

You are the one having comprehension issues here, I have clearly stated my points over and over, that I am not supporting any illegality, and I that is what I expect every person to do, both Nigerians and South Africans, don't condemn one and justify the other for any reason like she is doing, nobody should be given jungle justice for being illegal in a country, my point is let us be civilized and treat each other as human beings, let the law of the country take its course, because people most times use jungle justice as an avenue to pour their personal issues on the victims...

So let's be condemning both, is that too hard for you people to comprehend?

jidesp:
You are just saying the same thing without moving forward.

She answered this your question over and over again.

So she is is saying that is right to kill illegal immigrants?

Yes or no?

Answer the question straight...

Samantha125:
No, you haven't... I asked if you can provide me with evidence of your legit and law abiding brothers who were unalived by the alleged "xenophobic attacks"?

That's why I am asking you based on your question, are you justifying the killings of illegitimate and non-law abiding immigrants by your people?

Samantha125:
Answer my question first.

I've answered your question na

https://www.nairaland.com/post/139473122

The fatal incident occurred in front of the headquarters of the Vehicle Inspection Office, where officials were reportedly conducting routine vehicle inspections and license checks at the time of the accident

PUNCH Metro gathered that it took the intervention of the police to prevent residents of the area from attacking the VIO officers who were believed to have caused the accident.


May their souls rest in peace and condolences to the bereaved and speedy recovery to the injured.

Samantha125:
Must I keep telling you to answer my questions? Because now this is getting me pissed.

So your answer is yes, I just want you to be explicit with it...

jidesp:
You’re tear bits of everything and just throwing it everywhere. It’s hard to follow your point. We

First off, I am surprised that you as a Nigerian would pursue such a reverberated arguement.

Samantha informs on “Nigerians” in SA activities. Based on the consistent pattern. It is generalized as who Nigerians are. If anyone enters a country illegally, he is not covered by the LAW of that country. If Society immediately deem you Thief regardless, by Law it is Justified. NO Legal ID etc. you just found yourself in a country, and you just want to integrate yourself like you just moved from the Bext street. Frankly, Samantha’s point to you is, If I may extend is, whatever stories you hear from Nigeria, may likely not to be entirely true. Especially when a South African listen to we describe it.

And Samantha, this goes to you as well, Nigerians in South Africa do not represent the true character of Nigerians here. Here is why, once integrated into South Africa’s settings, they react to your economic and factors. They have to adapt and in doing so, some have to become the worst version of themselves in order to implicitly integrate themselves. Survival is a hard game. And likely, anyone could submit to the beast.

So are you saying it is lawful for a citizen in SA to kill an illegal immigrant and Scot free because the illegal immigrant is not covered by the law?

Are you listening to yourself?

Samantha125:
If you're in the country illegally or committing illegal dealings, then it means you're a danger to society and whatever happens to you is none of my concern.

We all know that underworld dealings have their own consequences, you live by a gun, you die by one... If I ask you now to provide me with evidence of your legit and law abiding brothers who were unalived by the alleged "xenophobic attacks", would you do it?

So you are telling me that killing someone because he got into your country illegally is justified by you?

Samantha125:
Answer my question first.

Ok, let me answer your question, I have no problem with any protest your people are having, because it lawful, I only have problem with the physical attacks and killings, you guys can protest as much as you want, but don't go physical on human beings...

so can you answer mine now?