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aswani:
President Tinubu is in the Pandora papers and you people wouldn't have kpaid us all here.

The Pandora papers were described as an expose on corrupt politicians all over the world.

Your man refused to pay tax on his monies, imagine a potential President hiding his monies under a labyrinth of different companies and accounts abroad to avoid paying tax.

How would he tell people to pay tax if he was voted as President?

Allow shame catch you small.

learn you people will not want to learn, just be following lies and propaganda and dishing out the same with high level of aro gance, that's how you people have destroyed the country with Tinubu...

aswani:
If they lied against him, why didn't he take them to court, same as he did Sahara reporters for the "Yes Daddy" video.. ... oh!

It seems like you don't even understand what Pandora papers are, firstly it is mainly a tax haven for people who want to keep their wealth and pay less tax, the problem with such is that most people who do it were listed among those who stole money from their countries or other countries and decided to store their wealth there.

But there are legitimate people who also stored their wealth there, that's where Peter Obi comes in, if there was any stolen money from anywhere, the governments of those countries would have gone after him, including Nigeria, I bet you if they had anything on Peter Obi like they have on El-rufai and Malami, Tinubu would have gone after him just to ridicule him, but up rill now none of them...

When you people shout Pandora, Pandora Pandora, even Tinubu and Gbaja are on Pandora.

Kalulu44:
I haven't thought of that, if I will be given the opportunity, I will first of all do some research. But I just can't give the answer immediately.
But one of the first I will do is find a way to regulate child birth or birth control in the north

Good, do you know a lot of people haven't though of that either, let me just give you a hint at the bolded, you will be hated even more than Jonathan and possibly targeted maybe for assassination if you try that, and the more complicated part is that it will be very much supported by the masses in the Islamic north, Do you know why?

Because it is ideological, it is an ideology, they will see immediately as an enemy, it is like you telling an Igbo man to not be ambitious or to not do circumcision after 7 days of child birth, the Igbo man will fight you.

It is the same with all the problems I listed there, they are all ideological, they are existing and thriving today not by mistake or accident, this is what they want, the Islamic north is heading the way of Afghanistan or Iran, that's the final destination and sadly they want to drag the whole Nigeria with them, dividing the country will put an end to dragging other parts of Nigeria but may not stop them from achieving being like Afghanistan.

Do you know why America spent over 2 trillion dollars and 20 years fighting in Afghanistan and still lost?

They were fighting an ideology.

The question I will ask you is, Do you really believe you can have a part of Nigeria similar to Afghanistan and have peace of mind?

Do you really think Nigeria will progress with such?

Part of the problem with Nigeria is a lot of people are not explicit with the truth and hate asking explicit questions.

Have you seen any interviewer ask any presidential candidate these questions I just asked you?

Not like some may not want to ask but, fear, because it is too explicit for the people involved to hear such an explicit question and truth...

It is even harder for an Igbo man to say he wants to solve the problem of the north, they will see it as domination, that was part of why they tagged the first coup an Igbo coup.

I think Igbos thought they could help Nigeria get it right, they saw it as Igbo domination, same thing Peter Obi still believes he can do, that's the same reason you hear an Igbo man will never be president, the people you want to help see it as you trying to dominate them.

I only talked about the Islamic north, the south west has theirs, the south east too has theirs, but they are all different ideologies in conflict with each other.

Maybe if our conversation continues I will touch on all of them, there are 3 region I know will likely not have problem if they were together alone, the south east, south south and the Christian north because the ideologies of these 3 regions can tolerate each other, but you see the south west and Islamic north ideologies are to me the biggest problems of Nigeria.

Though I will prefer every region chooses what they want through referendums so nobody feels forced.

The major problem of Nigeria predates the independence.

Kalulu44:
Don't worry about the breaking down for now, let's just wait and see how the country fares in the next few years

If I had the resources to start I would have started by now, You are waiting for something that might never be...

Let me ask you a question:

If you were president today , how do you solve the illiteracy, Almajiri system, shariah and insecurity in the north?

Kalulu44:
I'm same as your people but honestly I still don't believe in that separation yet

It will solve a whole lot of things, from insecurity, to governance and even respect, if you need I can break it down for you, but it maybe very long because it will mean summarizing Nigerian for you to understand why it is the way it today and why it may never work.

Kalulu44:
Hmmmm.... You are right to some extent. But in this Nigeria of today. If people like Obi got the chance, he will either be derailed by people who works with him, or the opposition will make life difficult for his tenure by trying everything possible to infiltrate his government with despicable people.

Let's first give it a try, if we give excuses then we might never have a better leader than him either, though my discussion here is just based on Nigerian politics, I don't believe in the unity of Nigeria anymore, even if Peter Obi becomes president, I will still want the dissolution of Nigeria or better still the separation for me and my people to have their own country.


Yes, having a good leader might improve things but Nigeria's major problem is more ideological.

Vision101:
Go and study the constitution of the federal Republic of Nigeria.

The constitution has many parts, which part should I study?

Kalulu44:
First of all, I am not a Tinubu supporter nor any politician or party supporter. I'm just saying things the way I think they're. Though I got your points, but where are we going to see the good leaders with all the examples I gave above.
A leader that spends millions to billions of naira to get to that post can never be good but will go there to recoup his money and more.
Me think if we start making political position non attractive by reducing the money they gets to the barest minimum, then maybe we can start getting the ones that have the masses at heart and will do the right things

The question is; who is going to pass such laws? the people we still pick, Let me tell you a short story about my secondary school days, I went to a private school from SS2 and I noticed the class was like the most un-serious class like between SS1-SS3, the SS1 and SS3 students were more disciplined than our class the SS2 class.

It was time to pick prefects when we were about entering SS3, the question now was who was going to be head-boy and who the we pick as prefects for each role.

Do you know within ourselves we picked our headboy, it wasn't the school that picked him, he wasn't the most brilliant, but there was something about him, he was like the most well behaved among us then, and we knew he will take the role seriously to show good example to the younger ones in the school.

So we had a good representation while other roles were shared by the teachers to each of us, but you see the headboy, we wanted someone that will show everyone good example not just brilliance in book, because some guys there were more brilliant than him then.

So what am I saying here?

Every political era has a class of leadership, in the Nigeria we live today the names you mentioned are the current SS3 class we have for leadership, we have to pick from them, regardless of how unserious the class might be looking, and it is very important we pick a leader among them who will show good examples to everyone better than the rest.

That's the reason why I still support Peter Obi for now, I've never called him a saint, but comparing him to others he is by far better in leading in good examples, we need a leader who can start teaching the people to do things right, I can tell you that after 4 years you will notice a change in people's behaviour and the type of leaders they will pick in the next election.

Imagine we have the likes of Peter Obi, Osinbajo, Akinwunmi Adesina like that in succession every 4 or 8 years, the leadership will keep refining, at some point you will notice people in general will start becoming less corrupt, because they want to be like their leaders.

And it will also send a strong message that good behavior pays, unlike Tinubu who is sending the message that bad behavior pays, that's partly why the corruption level is today under him.

aswani:
Why don't you too get people from your own tribe to protest?

Must older people from a particular tribe be protesting for you all the time, you too go and carry placard and protest and let them rest.

President Buhari was right about lazy youths

So that you people will start shouting that we want to burn down Nigeria because Obi lost election...

We know you people, even when we stayed behind without joining protest, you people still came to blame us...

This is the country of some people's dreams...

They are happy these things are happening and they support it...

aswani:
Alas the Pandora papers baggage means Peter Obí is not the one with the "least corrupt baggage", rest and allowed us breathe abeg.

Pandora papers no one in the world has been able to even take him to court for, who is the joker here?

Kalulu44:
I'm not here to exonerate our leaders and politicians for their corrupt and wrongful leadership, but for us to reflex on ourselves.
We the citizens and masses pointing fingers at our leaders for being corrupt. Are we not a product and reflection of our leaders.
These leaders do not fall from the sky but live and grow up among us.
Every corrupt practices of our leaders started from each and everyone of us neighborhoods and communities.
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I rmbr years ago when I was in secondary school. Our principal said each and every class from JSS 1 A to whatever alphabet it ended till SSS 3 will have a group photograph that will be kept in her office for reference sake.
A photographer was contracted who charged #100 for each group photograph.
Our principal beat the price to #50 telling the photographer that it's a bulk photographs that will fetch him more money than just one single photo.
The photographer agrees and a day was set when he will come and starts his work.
Guess what, our principal and teachers collabo and charge each students #20 each.
Just imagine! A class of 30 (And we are above that back then) will be paying #600 for a group photograph of #50.
Can you see the corruption?
It didn't end there, a friend of mine told me categorically that he told his mum that our principal said we should pay #50 for the photograph and he inturn overheard his mum tell his father it's #100, lolz! You guys can see how the corruption is circulating both from familes to school teachers who's supposed to teach us morals.
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Another example which till today still makes me laugh and shook my head was when I was in SS1, the son of our landlord who we are in the same school and set but not in same class, came to me one day and said if his dad should called me to ask of so so something that I should support him and tell his dad same thing he said. I asked him what is it?
He said the Biology text book they said we should buy, that he split the name to two and told his father that we are asked to buy BIO, LOGY. His father our landlord being a stark illiterate who made his money from selling building materials gave him money for two text books that's supposed to be one, I shook my head in disbelief.
I told him plainly that I don't know if I can support him if his father should call me, he sha begged and begged me. I told him I have heard him, but luckily for him his father never called me.
You may say this are isolated cases, but I believe worse are being done that you and I don't know of.
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What of our workplaces, the cutting of corners, the bribing, the cheating of clients or ripping off our bosses. Presently I live and work in an environment surrounded by students and other youths who are 80% of them fraudsters or is it yahoo guys you call them.
They're not even ashamed or scared to say they're yahoo guys. You hear them nicknaming themselves "agba yahoo" "Yahoo pastor" "omo yahoo" "babalawo yahoo" and many other names. Where they're playing evening football, you see the ones who are not playing but watching discussing about different update and formats and about clients this and that, without caring who's listening or watching.
And all this are people who condemn and call politicians names.
Tell me if they're giving the opportunity the politicians have, they won't do worse. Cus it's already inbuilt in them.
So yes our politicians are bad and corrupt, but majority of us are all a product and reflection of them. Cus if not, I see no reason why a politician who has been indicted and convicted like James Ibori who came back from London prison and was welcome to his state like a hero.
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So before you point your fingers at Tinubu, Akpabio, Obi, Ameachi, Atiku, Wike and co for being corrupt. Have you checked yourself very well of having not commit a fraction of what they've done.
I rest my case!
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Is that why some of you decide to pick the worst leaders like Tinubu when it is time for election?

Even animals will look for the best among them to lead them, you will never find a gang of thieves or fraudsters giving their wealth to another thief or fraudster to manage, but when it comes to your country, you people look for the worst to hand it over to them...

I'm not here to call any politician a saint, but why not pick the ones with the least corrupt baggage to start from there and keep improving on the selection over time....

Why not pick leaders that will teach the citizens good examples?

Look at Tinubu, is he teaching Nigeria good examples?

Leaders teach and followers learn, so why not start picking better leaders who will start teaching the people good examples?

Let's even start from somewhere, I noticed people who support Tinubu use the word" All politicians are the same"

That sentence is just to create an excuse to pick the worst leaders either from their tribe or religion or for monetary gains...

But in reality not all politicians are the same, it is like a man who says all women are the same, we all know it is a lie, he is either using it as an excuse to date the worst type of girls, womanize, or justify his poor choices on the type of girls he has dated in the past.

Same goes for women who say the same and voters who support bad candidates during election.

Vision101:
You don't understand political economy. It has layers. No matter what you do at the higher layer if the lower layer do nothing you can't have the desired results.

The subnationals manage the microeconomy and the federal manages macroeconomy. It is not diversion of responsibility but political economic management. In management we call it common goal congurence.

For example PBAT's decision concerning fuel subsidy and fx rate unification has freed more resources to the subnationals but he cannot control them on how they spend it. He can only advise.

I took this efforts because all your writings portray hate.

So in other words, you are telling me Tinubu decided to channel more of his responsibilities to the governors to do anyhow they like with more resources given to them, since he cannot control them.

Is that a smart of full-ish decision?

So he knew he could not control them on how they manage the resources given to them, and yet decided to channel more resources that the citizens got directly from him which he could control the spending and gave to the governors which he cannot control...

Is that the quality of a good leader?

demstone:
BRODERLY.. U DONT HAVE TO CROSS CHECK OR BELIEVE WHAT I SAID...BUT I FEEL UR PAIN!!!

OPPOSITION TODAY IS SIMILAR TO HAVING "SHEEP LEAD LIONS"

EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING "NEMO DAT QUOD NON HABET"..

DEY CNT GIVE WHAT DEY DONT HAVE..

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY

You still you can't provide what you don't have.

LegendHero:
Otti is not even the best governor in his South East region let alone in Nigeria.

He is enjoying life while pushing kids like you online to defend him on 2k stipend.

Pellar will give you more than that abeg.

If you that is saying this believe that Tinubu is fixing Nigeria and is the best president Nigeria has ever had, how do you want Nigerians to believe what you wrote up here?

LegendHero:
How much is Otti paying you to defend him? 1k? 2k?

I’ll triple it

I don't need to get paid to do the right thing, so you don't need to triple it for me to do the wrong thing either, if that's what you do, not me...

Otti is the best governor in Nigeria presently, he is not a saint either but he is the best for now.

What kind of reporting is this?

After reading the whole report, there was no details of what caused the fight, and police seems to mediating on a cause the reporter didn't tell us.

It is well

[quote author=LegendHero post=138875975]Obohia road was also flooded.

BREAKING: Gov. Alex Otti has commissioned another seaport in Abia state, this one is at Obohia Road.

Ships are already offloading contains at the seaport.

Truly, good governance isn’t rocket science.

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— High Chief Lawrence Igbins Okoro (@HighChiefOkoro) March 24, 2026

we should remove him from office because 2 roads out of maybe hundreds of roads he has done got flooded?


if we are to remove him from office because of these roads, what then should we do to Tinubu ?

demstone:
NAH !!!! U CNT FORCE A MAN TO SEE WHAT HE DOESNT WANT TO SEE...

DO U THINK UR LEADER WHO SAID TINUBU HAS BORROWED MORE DAN ALL LEADERS PUT TOGETHER, DOESNT KNOW IT'S DEVALUATION EFFECT..
TRUST ME, WEDA U CONTINUE TO LIE OR REPENT DOESNT MATTER..

TINUBU IS GOING TO WIN , COS HE IS NOT JUST SMARTER..

BUT A THOUSAND STEPS AHED OF D GAME... DATS WHY HE IS CALLED ASIWAJU

NOT AN ORDINARY "OKWUTE" OR OKUTA

SOMETHING STATIONARY DAT CAN ONLY MOVE WEN ENABLED..

LITTLE WONDER HE IS ALWAYS BEGGING ODAS TO STEP DOWN, "SERVE HIM POWER ALACARTE".. NEVER PROACTIVE

We are not talking about election here or Peter Obi, we are talking about data here, the time you used to type all these long jargon would have been more than enough to produce the data you claim is available on the internet, except it doesn't exist and you are only looking for a way to divert attention away from that...

demstone:
OK !! JUST DO A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH FOR " NIGERIAS TOTAL DEBT Q2 2023" U SHOULD GET D FIG FROM D NBS

Why not do it, it is your claim, I've never asked you to do mine for me, I make my claim and I provide the data, please do yours...

FreeStuffsNG:
O ga o. I remember Mr Bọde Ọjajuni. He was the direct Boss of Frank Mba.

This kind of things can really demotivate and it is sad. Even current IGP was the Boss of Frank Mba and it was just by the grace of God that he could recover the political gap Frank Mba had over him.

This injustice that favoured Frank Mba and almost imperilled the career progression of his Bosses needs to be addressed so we will stop having this kind of embarrasing scenarios.

That's what the nepotism and injustice you people supported throughout Buhari's tenure and into Tinubu's tenure caused, you people refused promoting Igbo ranking officers and retired the few because you people wanted IGP's of your stock and also to have very few to none Igbo officers eligible for IGP, that created the gap that became so obvious for officers from the south east.

Mba only enjoyed what his other counterparts suffered from nepotism and injustice, so if you are to blame anyone, start from yourselves with those you support in public office.

demstone:
D ONLY RELIABLE SOURCE ON NIGERIAS DEBT IS D DEBT MANAGEMENT OFFICE..

A SIMPLE GOOGLE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SAERCH WOULD GIVE YOU $113B AS NIGERIAS TOTAL DEBT Q2 2023...

Why not provide it and show me here?

Vision101:
Your biased mind takes away your thought process. The president showed you that he recognizes the likely impact of global event on the economy. He was simply talking to the governors to prepare their minds for the likely event. That they should start thinking at the micro level of the likely mitigation while he thinks at the macro level.

Does the above not show qualities of a sound leader to you but you are there writing chochocho because of hatred.

Why is he diverting his responsibility to the governors?

Is that the quality of a good leader?

grandstar:
This lends some credibility to what you said. Out of 100, i will only give you a 40.

The fuel subsidy must never return. The economy can not afford it.

But the economy can afford corruption abi?

grandstar:
Hamilton, a former US president and economist said, "The exiatence of subsidy and abuse can not be divorced."

Subsidy is the problem. The nation is sacrificing lots of revenue in order to sell petrol at a given price.

Which subsidies do developed countries have? What they have are investment subsidies and not consumer subsidies.

For instance, the government can provide free land to entice a company to set up a plant. Provide tax free holidays. These are investment subsidies.

You need to learn more about economics and how to manage an economy, you and nairalanda1reason alike, I asked him only 1 question and he blocked me, because he didn't have an answer to it, and you will not also have answer to it, because it will expose your no consumer subsidy theory as a flawed policy...

Read below and see list of developed nations and continents giving consumer subsidies to their citizens...

grandstar:
That discount you have stated is a "subsidy."

In 1973, when crude oil prices quadrupled, the country chose to fix the price it sold it nationally and not pass it on the increase to the masses. That was the commencement of the fuel subsidy which took 5 good decades to end.

I do not want the subisy back because it does far more harm than good.

Subsidy is not the problem but the corruption in the subsidy, which is what I just solved here, every well to do country offers subsidies to their citizens, so subsidy is not a bad thing, if you nit able to solve a problem, does not mean anther may not be able to do it.

In my solution, no money is paid to anybody and delivery is controlled directly to the stations to sell...


If subsidy was a bad thing, why are all the developed nations doing it?

The only living things recovered were stolen cattle, what about kidnapped human beings?

I hope this was not a help given to the Fulani herdsmen there by the military, because no names were given, no pictures, no profile of the criminals arrested.

It is well

grandstar:
Then and now have differences.

There was oil subsidy then and but not now. That is the elephant in the room today. That is what i am really concerned about.

Due to the fuel subsidy, petrol had to be sold at the fixed price no matter how high crude oil prices rose.

Todays climate is different. Dangote has raised prices. If cride oil prices keeps rising, would we be paying 2k for a litre of petrol?

What should the government do?

Provide Dangote crude oil at a discounted rate for now to be sold to Nigerians, that way no subsidy(money is paid) to anyone, Dangote only will deliver directly to filling stations willing to eliminate smuggling, Nigeria keeps selling at high rate to international market covering whatever discount given to Dangote...

What is Tinubu's excuse?

Incompetence or greed or both...

fxexperts:
Yes i mean the steel company was built by Russia and not the British.

Which steel company do you think I am talking about?

grandstar:
What did Obj do?

You people should sometimes try to learn from history even if you were not born then or try to be very logical and rational with your reasoning especially when trying to support your person or tribesman..