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Samantha125:So, are you justifying the killings and physical attacks of my tribesmen by your people? |
Samantha125:Thanks for your explanation, I get some of your points, however I want you to acknowledge that I am not here to support crimes done by my tribe especially in SA. I would like you to kindly read these write ups by me in the past before reading my comment to you here, so you would understand me better, I know you hate long write ups, but for the sake of understanding, please just take your time to read up all. https://www.nairaland.com/post/120874938 https://www.nairaland.com/post/98736929 https://www.nairaland.com/post/59226100 https://www.nairaland.com/post/52458338 https://www.nairaland.com/post/52458338 Between the times I made those comments and now, a lot has changed and a lot has been revealed both from my tribe and those attacking my tribe, like I said earlier. I'm not here to justify any crime from any side but to let you know why I am concerned about anyone attacking my tribe, I will try and make is as brief as possible. 1. I don't support crimes(especially drug related crimes) committed by my tribesmen and I also acknowledge that something seriously needs to be done like I wrote in most of the links up there, I know there has been some little efforts that have been made, but for me it is still not enough, a whole lot more needs to be done. 2. This is where I have issues with most people who attack my tribesmen with any form of justification, Over time I noticed a pattern of behaviour that is similar especially when injustice is hidden behind the claim of trying to correct something. a) Generalization - Because one man or a few persons commit a crime then it is justification to attack everyone who is from the man's tribe, I have seen innocent people attacked for doing nothing wrong in such cases. b) Irrational and Illogical Behaviour with Illegal Actions - Someone commits a crime and boom, everyone from the person tribe is attacked and labeled a criminal, it may seem like the A listed up here, but here is the difference, if truly the person committed a crime, why not single out the person, get him arrested and charge to him to court, let the law take effect on him. Because I have seen where people were falsely accused and killed just because of their tribe or religion, no crime was committed, then I have also seen where a whole tribe was attacked and stopped from voting because of an unverified accusation, I will explain this: During the 2023 election in Nigeria, a statement started flying that my tribe is claiming that Lagos is no man's land, for me if any of my tribesman made that statement, he should have an identity, how can you say somebody said something and you cannot produce the person who said it? Secondly if a crime was actually committed by such a statement, why not arrest the person or sue the entire tribe to court, because there is nowhere under the Nigerian law that even makes such statement a crime, and then my tribesmen were attacked and stopped from voting for a statement that was unverified and not even a crime under the law. Imagine taking an illegal action against a legal action and nobody was prosecuted for such. So it just looks like certain people looking for excuses to express hate, some even go as far as making false accusations just to attack the entire tribe. So my point is this, we are human beings first before tribe, we have laws, if anyone commits a crime, kindly separate the person from his tribe and treat his as a criminal under your made laws to avoid people using jungle justice to express their hate towards anybody, this is not just even about my tribe. Because once the law is thrown own away for jungle justice, then anything goes, both those who have deep seated hatred and those who feel they are doing the right thing will use that avenue to express it. That's why I am condemning such attacks on my tribesmen both in Nigeria and outside Nigeria because all the physical attacks on them are not lawful, as long as those attacks are not backed up by the laws of those lands, then it is wrong, that is my point here. If anyone commits a crime, arrest him and prosecute him, let's all stand against the crimes committed and the xenophobic attacks, none is justified. |
Laple0541:More like saying you hate hearing the truth and don't want to hear it anymore... |
Dbestbrest:So are you saying the south west love the lives of the northerners more than their own lives ? |
Laple0541:And that stand is the hypocrisy of you people I am calling out... Why are you people treating Tinubu the way you people treated Jonathan even though Tinubu has done worse to you people than Jonathan ever did? |
Laple0541:So are you saying you people value northern lives than the lives of your own people? |
Samantha125:I think there is a mod on my trail, Samantha, at least I know you well enough to explain things and give answers to portray your country and tribe in a good light, for you to be this deflective then you have nothing to say, you know what your people are doing is evil and you don't want to admit it, why do you guys share similar behaviour with the ....... people in Nigeria? I had to remove the tribe involved because I am getting banned for mentioning the tribe which the mod placing the ban comes from, you see why i said some people hate the truth and may fight my tribe for speaking the truth. |
Laple0541:Last time i checked, school children and teachers were kidnapped and some killed in Oyo state by foreigners, who should be protesting? And the president is from your tribe and he is not even bothered and you people are not bothered to even bother him like you did to GEJ, is this how you people value your lives? |
Menclothing1:So what's your solution? x |
Samantha125:At least explaining why you people are xenophobes may help others understand you people better... |
It's like something is cooking in China |
Omoluyi:No, kidnapping of school children is not being committed in my region, secondly, are you saying that Yoruba people only get angry and react when the president is not from their tribe? How exactly do you want us to join you people to fight this battle when you people are not even reacting the way you reacted under Jonathan, the president is a Yoruba man, he is not even showing any concern, you people are not behaving like people ready to battle it... |
Samantha125:So I got banned after replying you, let me just ask you a question so I will know if I am discussing with someone who is rational and logical in reasoning... Let's assume for a second that what you said about the Igbos is true, what is the offense of the other tribes from Africa you SA people are attacking and telling to go back to their various countries? |
Samantha125:I really think you are mixing things up, firstly I think you need to study about the Igbos in details. 1. Igbos are explorers especially when it has to do with business and making money, so we travel a lot to always explore opportunities in other places, in fact there is a saying that anywhere on earth you go and you don't see an Igbo man, leave that place... Even in Nigeria, we are the most spread tribe in terms of movement and settlement So it's normal to see Igbos everywhere, now for every one Igbo person who commits a crime, there are more than 10 who are not committing crime in the same place, so whatever figure you have in your country for committing crimes, count x10 of it for those not committing... 2. About the demeaning and those stuffs you wrote, there is something I noticed about we the Igbos, I think we are usually too explicit with speaking the truth, and some people don't like it, and also some Igbos are a bit loud and braggadocios in nature, this is just who they are and some people don't like it, I think orientation needs to be given from childhood on how to be very sensitive with things they do outside Igbo land, like the king issue in SA, these things are sensitive especially when you know the kind of people you are staying with. 3. Then speaking ill of other African nations or Africans is not true, I think maybe you think all the negative comments comes from the Igbos here, no, I don't want to start mentioning tribes here, but I doubt the claim, for you to make such claim, you should know almost all the tribes in Nigeria with their names, even I can't single out a tribe to put such blame on them because I know so many tribes do it and I cannot in detail link all the names I have seen to all the tribes involved, we have over 250 tribes, so it is not true... There is something I will explain to you here, Imagine a country where your tribe has to score over 300 to gain admission into a federal school and some other tribes are given just 2 to score to gain the same admission into the same federal school, how would you feel? In the same country you have a region with over 15 million out of school children not because the government neglected them but because they chose not to go to school and your own region has the lowest out of school children in the entire country but they keep telling you that your people shouldn't handle the country and this region start causing insecurity and killings all over the country because those children grow up to become terrorists? And Igbos should keep quiet? No, You said something, that there is no smoke without fire, yes, this thing you are seeing happening to the Igbos didn't start today, it started from Britain, they called the Igbos rebellious during colonial time and warned that power should not be given to them because they will rebel against Britain, what does that tell you? They were afraid of the Igbos that they won't be able to control the Igbos like they are doing to many tribes in Africa presently, If your slave master calls you rebellious it means you are doing the right thing, so what you are seeing today is just some of the tribes playing along with what Britain has always wanted, that's why Nigeria is the way it is today, and anyone hating on the Igbos, is only playing along... For you to know just a bit of how media is being used against the Igbos in Nigeria to cause stereotyping, read the article below, this was an extract from a British official who came to Nigeria before independence... You know very little about Nigeria and Nigerians, you are fed with just the media and just what you see, I don't blame you though, if I were in your shoes. I might see it the same way too, but there is a lot you need to know...
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Samantha125:If you are referring to the Igbo tribe, but we don't deny accountability, yes I acknowledge that the we need to tackle the issue of drug dealing which I strongly believe can be handled by the Igbos. But let me tell you something you need to know, do you know that these drug dealing is not prevalent in Igbo land, they mostly do it outside Nigeria and one very reason is to make money, I'm not here to justify it, but to let you know that if we had our own country, most likely these thing would have been tackled by Igbos, some tribes here constantly use it to make mockery of my tribe and are usually happy about it, why do you think such people will want to make any effort to put a stop to it? I'm not here to remove blame from the Igbos, but efforts were made in the past by a fellow Igbo woman to fight the drug issue in Nigeria especially in Igbo land, you can read about her, Dora Akinyuli... And she achieved a lot of success, ever since she was removed, it has never been as good as she did it, and I don't think any Igbo person has handled that position since then, doesn't that tell you something? And lastly you shouldn't use a few actions of the Igbos to justify the behavior of the Igbos, we are over 40 million both in Nigeria and worldwide, that's a bit short of the population of the entire SA. And there is something I noticed about most SA people, if you want I will tell you... |
Samantha125:Have you or anyone you know from your tribe ever being attacked brutalized and stopped from voting on election day just because of the tribe you come in the place you currently stay with your husband? Do you know anyone from your tribe who has being beheaded from your tribe by another tribe in their region just because of a mere statement? Has your tribe ever being attacked and killed in hundreds just because of a cartoon that was drawn in Denmark that they knew nothing about? Has your tribe lost over 3 million of your people just because you people said you are tired of the injustice being meted on you and want to be on your own? Have you ever being constantly told by certain tribes in your country that your tribe will never be president no matter how good the candidate from your tribe is and during election they actually start attacking your tribe to ensure that? I'm not here to demonize other tribes but to point out that whatever is making them do what they are doing stems from their cultural or religious ideology and my tribe should not be at the receiving end of whatever they feel is best for them, that's why I want a separation. The truth is, there are good people in every tribe here in Nigeria, but when you have a majority of people behave a certain way from certain tribes against your own tribe then you have to seek a solution. I used to be a very patriotic citizen of Nigeria, all that changed when the current and the last president before him came into power, it was like they showed what every major tribe wanted for a country, I just lost hope in the unity. https://www.nairaland.com/3381130/aliens-land-nigeria-photos That was me in 2015, i created that fictional article to celebrate our independence day. |
Samantha125:You may just be declaring a full blown civil war in Nigeria if your suggestion is even brought into any national discussion here in Nigeria, you guys don't just know how(let me use the word graced) you people are with your country's formation, you have just 11 languages, no wonder there is a form of unity among you people and somehow I also noticed that you people's culture and cultural ideologies are closely related, so most of you think alike, so it makes it easier to be united... Samantha, if only you know what you guys are enjoying with what I wrote up there, each time you think about it, you will just be thanking God, I doubt your suggestion will ever work in Nigeria, why? Nigeria has over 250 languages and over 250 tribes, in fact I doubt if there is any Nigerian both home and abroad who knows all the names of the languages and tribes with their locations without going into books(not even our president and his entire cabinet), that's just to show you how complex it is. You have a region of over 20 million people supporting, doing protests for Palestine and Iran and another region of over 20 million people supporting Israel and USA also doing protests, are these not 2 different nations inside one? Why are they together? You think Nigeria is the way it is today because of just bad leadership, no... it's mainly because of the differences in ideology(more like everyone agrees to disagree) and then gives room for nonsense to be done, idiots are enthroned and the result is the Nigeria you see today. To some major tribes, Nigeria is like the English premiership, it is all about we vs them and we must win at any cost even if the country is burnt down to the ground with them in it, it doesn't matter, as long as they believe they are winning it's all good to them( that's the Nigeria you see today) Let me not bore you with Nigeria's issues, I just want you to understand some things especially when discussing about Nigeria and also appreciate what God's grace has done for you people in SA in this regard, for me I'm majorly after seeing my own tribe leaving this union called Nigeria, I pray for God's grace and guidance to achieve it and on time. |
When I say the Yoruba people made me give up on the unity of Nigeria, some think I am just being biased, but that's the truth. So here it is: When terrorism and kidnapping of school children was only restricted to the north, they were everywhere asking for the head of Jonathan, did everything to get him out. Today the same terrorism and kidnapping is not only in the north but right inside their own domain taking even up to their kings and children and there is calmness, silence, in fact a number of them are even asking for third term for Tinubu. So I ask what was Jonathan's offense to them? Secondly, if you want know the level of hypocrisy going on, let's sincerely ask ourselves, the people among them who tell a certain people : go back to your region or attack them during election for mere unverified statement, why are they not shouting that the people committing all these offenses in their land and killing up to their kings to go back their region? Is there something more to this going on? Just for second imagine if it were the people who are from that region they tell to go back were the people committing all these crimes in their region and even killing their kings. Is this how calm they will be? |
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U09ce:Thank you, that's even another question, I just hope it is not another avenue to reward cronies with over inflated contracts and then use propaganda to hype the contracts as FG achievement. |
Lots of questions are just going through my head on these solar projects embarked by the FG: 1. How sustainable is this in the long run when more houses are being built and the capacity is not able to cover the consumption? 2. We all know that currently, anyone using solar must most likely have to be calculative on balancing use with available power supply, are these villages in the know and would they practice it? 3. Are these villages billed for the consumption or is it free, and if it is free, how sustainable would it be in the long run in terms of maintenance? 4. Did they factor in the future that electricity distribution companies might also come and want to electricify the place and take over the structure in place, would there be resistance from these communities? And if there is resistance would it not cause conflict? 5, If the FG did not factor in all these questions above and provide solutions to them, why embark on spending billions that could have been used to improve power generation and distribution that will still get to these villages? These are just questions I am asking, I'm more concerned about the reliability, cost, sustainability and future effects.. |
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dominique:They keep telling you people the truth, you people keep fighting useless fight, how can you have a Yoruba president and all these are happening inside Yoruba Land by foreigners? No revolt, no action, just silence, even when your kings are killed... Just for a second, sincerely from your heart imagine if it were Igbos who are doing all these in Yoruba land, just 1/10 of it, is this how you people will behave? I've told you people severally that this nonsense you people are doing in the name politics to the Igbos will backfire so badly because it stems from injustice... |
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Parachoko:That's because their president behaves like one |
I wanted to say something, but let me reserve my comment for now... |
Sanwo Olu is trying but hmmm |
Jakpon:Then what was Jonathan's offense to you people and Tinubu for fighting and chasing him out of office? |
If you still believe in Tinubu's promise as at now then... Even some of his Agbado supporters don't believe him anymore but logic needs to be thrown away to keep supporting him... |