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Well if it's God watching over you Catholic's and not men-then why have you been praying to Mary-for the saints to watch, over you? And plus what the names of these Saints? Are they the apostles-or are they saints the Catholic Catholic made saints? You shouldn't be asking me Who made me a watchmen, you should be happy I am the one that yells from the house tops spreading His message across the land, a watchmen's job isn't to watch over you-I am here to warn you. Which I have been doing for how long-I have been warning you to turn your ways back to the bible-which of course you have refused to do so. I have been spreading the good news across the valley-you must become a born again believer-before you can enter into the kingdom of God. Which of course you have refused to do this also. emmanuelex1: |
You should know by now Uben-How long has it been-and still you haven't produced any evidence, about your beliefs-can you find any of it, written in the bible?. And how can I understand if you aren't willing to explain-why you ask Mary to glide you-and why ask Mary to give you the saints to pray for you? when we have Jesus to pray for us? {John 17:20-23} Ubenedictus: |
How can I learn something-when you know yourself it is unscriptural? Ubenedictus: |
Well you can call me anything you like-I am used to your abuse-I can only expect the worst from a Catholic, to be honest nothing nice said-would come from any of you, not on this forum anyway. Even the Atheist-rebuke the Word of God-you aren't any different to the world-the world knows their own, Jesus also had problems 'such as these-with the Pharisees, He had warned us about them-He said: we will know them, by their fruit. And we know you-by your fruits. Every time the Word of God is mentioned, and every time we speak it out-you all seem to get yourselves all worked up-over nothing. Of course we know the reasons why, none of you know the truth about Christ. Your teachings aren't right, nor is it teachings from the bible-the Catholic's believe in a completely different doctrine-you call yourselves believers, but your goddess, isn't that same God, we born again Christians believe. Lets face it, the Jw's, the Mormons-the Seven day Adventist, aren't any different to the Catholic's, who can only practice their religion on the dark side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIcvGAf9bFo emmanuelex1: |
It doesn't matter which Church rapes young Children-what matters not only the Catholic Church is involved in this sort of behaviour-it's spreading-plus if you had read up about this man fully, he was raped as a young child by a priest. Which is quite sad-he had continual his walk-from a victim, to become the abuser. emmanuelex1: |
I am happy for you. emmanuelex1: |
I am only replying, what you have written-you said you ask Mary for which popular saint to pray for you? You had agreed you ask Mary-in other words you pray to Mary, asking her for directions, for which saint. Most believers in Christ ask the Lord directly for Him to pray for them-Why not ask the Lord to pray for you-listen to what the lord say's in {John 17:20-21} I am not asking on behalf of them alone-but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me, through their message, that all of them may be one, as you, Father, are in Me, and I am, in You, may they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that you sent Me. This is the prayer you should be asking from the Lord, Jesus pray's for our faith. Mary nor the saints, can not do, what Jesus can do. emmanuelex1: |
"No you asked me what Church I worshipped last Sunday-as I had said I don't need to wait until Sunday to worship the Lord, I can worship Him everyday of the week-meaning who needs a Church building to worship. Plus I can't remember Last Sunday, half day's I spend time on the net-sharing the Word of God. emmanuelex1: |
"No I haven't finished my race yet-I am still running my race. And when you ask Mary which popular saint to pray for you-then this proves you don't only honor Mary, but you pray to Mary-for directions. emmanuelex1: |
"No it isn't my problem-it is your problem-if you refuse bible teachings. Remain a Catholic if you wish-but the word of God say's one must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God. It's your choice, if you refuse to become a born again believer-then it's your choice where you would rather spend eternity. emmanuelex1: |
I don't need to wait until Sunday to worship anybody-I am happy to worship the Lord everyday of the week. emmanuelex1: |
You haven't explained enough-you haven't told me why you believe you need to pray to Mary and the saints, those already in Heaven-why not pray for those who aren't in heaven-we are the ones that need it most. Mary and the rest-have finish their race-now its up to us to finish ours. emmanuelex1: |
To understand praying for the Living-is one thing-but praying for the living in heaven is another-they are already with the Lord, so why pray to them. Shouldn't the Catholic's be praying "for" them-instead of praying "to" them-even that sounds silly, when they have already finish the race. Isn't this the Lord's job is pray for us on Earth {John 17:20-23} and doesn't the Lord asked us to pray to Him the Father. If you truly believe-firstly you would do what the Lord asked us to do-pray for one another, who "aren't" in Heaven-become a born again, Mary and the apostles done just that-they obeyed the Lord and His commands, why do we need to pray to the saints who are already in heaven, wouldn't it be better if you had a direct line into Heaven, This is why the Lord asked us to become born again Christians, Becoming a born again Christian we have that direct line straight to God-we don't need to pray to the saints, to retrieve answers, we need the answers straight from God, we are already connected, Jesus said He will send us the Holy Spirit to teach us all things-if this is the case, then we are Spirit filled believers, connect to the Godhead in Spirit. Doesn't this mean anything to the Catholic's? |
So does this mean-I am only retrieving half baked knowledge from you-because you can't answer the questions asked by me, you do believe in Catholicism don't you? For how long have you believed? It's quite strange for someone like you-that believes-and yet you haven't got the answers ready to tell somebody like myself, you haven't any knowledge to pass on about your beliefs, so what good are you, believing in something when you don't really know anything about it? emmanuelex1: |
Thank you. emmanuelex1: |
You sure do.. emmanuelex1: |
This is true-which is another lie told by the Church. People are searching for the cash flow-which of course is a problem within. But their is a lot of us people-who don't go for this kind of teachings-because we know it is false. emmanuelex1: |
Another lie bites the dust-the Catholic's uses Mary as their mediator-it is no-good lying about your beliefs, Mary is used in the Catholic Church so she can bring you all to safely. The dead can not pray for us-God is the God of the living-He isn't the God of the dead. You are mistaken-about who you truly believe in, I don't ask my dead love ones to pray for me-I ask the living to pray for me, your beliefs is not written in the bible. We agree Mary's alive in Heaven-with the apostles-but when we pray, we pray directly to the Father in heaven, I don't ask everybody else, only because Jesus said pray to the Father in my room, plus their is no other scripture that tells me to pray directly to Mary-the bible had never interpreted me to do so. You say you pray to Mary-for what reason-Mary is not part of the Trinity Godhead-and if you truly believe in the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit-then why don't you focus on praying to them? The bible tells you to pray to them. Have you through you may be praying to Satan's demons-because Jesus did say you need to pray to the Father, He didn't say pray to everybody else-"you can pray "for" somebody else"-but don't pray "to" everybody else, who aren't part of the Godhead, you say you read the bible, these are the questions everyone should ask a Catholic believer, this is the sort of information you should know, no-one other then the Catholic's pray to Mary and the dead saints.. How would your prayers be answered, by God Himself, if you continual to pray to Mary, "No" you don't just honor Mary you actually pray to her, she was only human-so why would anybody want to pray through her? emmanuelex1: |
I do believe they don't teach people to molest Children-but those who do-there is no tougher penalty for them to stop doing it. Most of them hide behind the Vatican, which of course they have there own laws to protect the abusers. As I have mentioned before I wasn't one of the ones who were molested, but I do know plenty who were, and have to wear the scares for life, while the Church protects their own. These cases-are usually forwarded towards another Child, once the victim, now the abuser, towards the innocent. But to see this sort of abuse coming out from amongst the Church-it really limits God-and His love towards us all. Many don't come to Christ-because His name had been abused-by the power of the Church. Ubenedictus: |
AOG means Assembly of God-this is one Church I had attended some time ago, but now-I don't have a Church I can call home. emmanuelex1: |
Ask yourself why are they leaving? Is it because they aren't receiving."Truth" emmanuelex1: |
I am not trying to win your soul-Just read your bible-and show yourself where the Catholic's get the idea-you must pray the Rosaries-pray to dead saints-build images of above and below, show yourself where in the bible does it say-you must pray to Mary for your own personal guidance, prove to yourself, who's lying "the Word of God which is the bible, or the Catholic Church" who is your mediator. Mary or Jesus. emmanuelex1: |
The question you should be asking is why, are people leaving your Church, is it because people have found the truth else where? Maybe because your Church isn't preaching, what it should be teaching? So your population of Catholic's are people without any knowledge-so at least we have this worked out. But don't worry we also have people walking away from our Churches too. These are people who haven't an interest about their future. They believe life ends here. emmanuelex1: |
This upsets you-believing your Church is above all other Churches-But to be honest-people who call themselves Catholic's are not Catholic-its only the name that carries them through life. Many people only use the term Catholic because they either were baptised as one-but deep down-none have walked into a Catholic Church since birth. Which doesn't count-you believing there are more Catholic's then the rest of the other believers, the bible strictly tell us, one must be born again before He/She can enter into the kingdom of God. And Catholic's aren't born again Christians, you all have your own beliefs that doesn't line up with the bible. Are you truly God's people? My answer to this question is "No" There is no evidence to prove the Catholic's are God's people, plus you use another doctrine, one that doesn't line up with the Word. emmanuelex1: |
I am not asking for an invite to your Church-all Catholic Churches are the same-nothing is different from them-they all worship the same. You may see it, as only that-you invite your friends to the Catholic Church, but I assure you if God's in the picture-things will change either way. Many Catholic's have left their beliefs to follow after the truth. And it looks like you maybe heading that way-is finding the truth. You may ask what is truth-you will see it, when it comes your way, and you will know it-because the truth is-you dedicating your life, for Jesus. emmanuelex1: |
They can't tell us anything, because It is not written in the bible. There religion is their own. celebgistsng: |
No-one is accusing anybody-maybe the devil plays with his own children-in the Catholic Church-and of course once again you have chosen to believe such rubbish, everyone is against you, you say you read your bible-then please explain why you prefer to follow after another doctrine? When of course none what you follow is written in the bible-the Rosaries-praying to dead saints-and making images above, on Earth and underneath the Earth? If you truly read your bible-you would know, none of these are written in the bible-for you to follow after. But you do follow these things, so if you truly read your bible-you would know, God is against these things, But some how you don't know, because you don't read your bible long enough to know the bible disagrees with these things. As I have said before, by their fruit, we will know them. It is alright to say your friends go to the Catholic Church-I have also been in and out of one too-but your Church doesn't change me-from whom I believe in, your Church is a long way off-from doing that. Your friends obviously must know that too, they must know who they worship, before they enter into any Church building. emmanuelex1: |
Well this sound funny-your friends take you in other Churches, and obviously your friends are doing the same, as I am doing, listening to the Lord, It is He, the Lord, who is directing you out from amongst the crowd-and yet you prefer to mock me-because I am witnessing to you in a different way-just like your friends taking you to other Churches. This is the same old story someone is telling you something-and of course you believe that person-I have heard this same story before hand by you? You would rather listen to your priest before you open up your bible. Let me introduce myself, I am a bible reading believer-"and I believe every Word the Lord has installed for me, like most of us, we don't agree with other religions-who claim to know Christ-claiming to be Christian like, without producing the evidence needed-they follow the world-like the world follows after itself. Jesus always said:He is not of this world-and He said: by their fruit, we will know them. emmanuelex1: |
Yes thanks bro-join in, if you are willing-I need all the help I can get. And I agree with you-people are stubborn specifically-when the truth is revealed. Just remember you are always welcome to join us. Beckino: |
I don't believe a watchmens job is speaking about a Church, I am no longer at, you are confused-a watchmen is somebody spreading the truth to others, somebody who is led by the Lord-yelling out from the house tops warning people to turn from their evil ways, I am doing this by writing to you, I am telling you to turn from your evil ways, by reading your bible finding out the truth about Christ for yourself. And are you listening? emmanuelex1: |
Get it through your head man, I said I don't go to a Church-meaning to say, I don't fellowship at any Church "Now" But it doesn't mean I haven't fellowshiped in a Church in the past. emmanuelex1: |
You only see it as a argument-because you don't know anything. Everyone knows-people get themselves all worked up-only because they don't know anything, this is your chance to study a thing or two, maybe than we could have a positive conversation. Instead of listening to you-on a topic, that you don't have any information about. emmanuelex1: |
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