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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:07am On Apr 10, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!
So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ I wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus!

If Max didn't quote the above, I suppose many not walking with God would believe' you are one of the denominations that claims you are practicing true Christianity, "but since the Watchtower does not believe people are saved through Christ, then it's impossible for any other believer outside your organisation' believe your organisation are walking in Christ.
{John 6:39} And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day.
It obviously say's God gave the people to Christ, "He" will raise us up, in the last day!
I don't read in the scriptures Jehovah will raise us up: {Unless you are admitting Jehovah is Jesus} you need to read that dusty old bible of yours, and begin searching and studying the scriptures, begin learning the Word of God: maybe you won't be such a fool trying to confuse 'your man made religion' upon bible believing Christians who do acknowledge God.
If you read the bible in the first place: One must be Born Again before He can enter into the Kingdom of God: there's no other way without Christ as our savor.
Quote: read bibles not magazines, most bibles refuse to even acknowledge the watchtowers Jehovah: your god doesn't line up with scripture, plus your organisation won't commit to acknowledge God and Our Lord Jesus Christ as savor.

Esortigress:
I know what I'm doing and asking for the church you attend is relevant. You denied being Kolade but my spirit keeps telling me you are the one. In all sincerity jw is the only denomination that are still practicing true christianity. Imagine brocab saying there's no where Jehovah was mentioned in the bible, maybe the adulterated bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:33pm On Apr 08, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ JEHOVAH is in all Bibles just as Jesus is.

I don't read Jehovah in all bibles: I read God: Lord.
The KJ bible has Jehovah written in it 7 times, only because the Watchtower printed it on their press and change the name God to Jehovah-but Jehovah's name was written only 7 times, why is that?
So we can see Jehovah's name was added to the scriptures by the Watchtower, besides the KJ Version, the only bible, I have seen is the New World Translation Bible, ''Written and publish by the Watchtower. .
I find this strange: Jehovah is used openly among the Jehovah witnesses, when in fact not even the devout Jews, out of reverence for God never say His name. Instead they substitute Adonai, a Hebrew title meaning “Lord.”
So whenever they speak of God or read aloud His name from scripture, they substitute Adonai {Lord}
And yet you would deny this: since you don't even believe Christ is our Lord and savor.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ JEHOVAH is in all Bibles just as Jesus is.

Since you are not in agreement with other believers who testify of the Savior Jesus Christ, modern prophets have declared: “He was the Great Jehovah of the Old Testament”
{“The Living Christ: The Testimony of the Apostles,” Ensign or Liahona, Apr. 2000, 2}
Jesus Christ, as Jehovah, established Heavenly Father’s everlasting gospel on the earth in every dispensation of time in order to gather in every one of God’s children who were lost.
Our faith in Jesus Christ can be strengthened as we come to recognize His unchanging nature and His everlasting gospel.
Why aren't the Jehovah witnesses using the 7 names of God besides Jehovah?
YHWH.
Adonai. The Jews never Called God Jehovah-but Adonai meaning {Lord} So obviously Jehovah is not from the Jews, the name Jehovah came at a much later date.
El.
Elohim.
Shaddai.
Tzevaot.
Ehyeh.
BUT IF YOU DECLARE ADONAI YHWH YAHWAH BY MEANS TO MAKE UP THE NAME JEHOVAH FOR GOD: THEN THE MEANING OF TRINITY IS ALSO WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ JEHOVAH is in all Bibles just as Jesus is.

If you don't know go and ask your pastors the name "Jesus" wasn't written in the original Bible but the person lives his name was transliterated just as Jehovah but as for trinity it wasn't written anywhere nor transliterated at all!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 9:11pm On Apr 07, 2023

Jehovah witnesses do tithe: do some study on it before you begin believing every word they give you, and this is what they believe: According to Max; a soul and faithful member of the Watchtower.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!
So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ i wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus!

So if they refuse Christ: then they don't follow Christ. So "they are not Christian, they don't work for Christ they work for Jehovah. And they don't see Christ to be the only true God and creator of all creation.

Sand2022:
I will agree with you on the last point. While not insulting the true men of God out their, I don't like the segregation in churches where people are treated on how fat their pocket are.

They probably don't have a sacred cow especially when the sin is public knowledge. We want to be careful here though since they do a lot of cover ups.

2. Yes door to door has been their most effective way. That is commendable although we can't be sure if all who engage in it do so whole heartedly. There is a lot of pressure from the leadership to move people to do it. But it's a plus. They aren't the only ones doing it anyway, but they come prominent.

But don't think that televangelism, crusades, market or street evangelism isn't a good method of preaching. No, I am not with you on that. The churches are doing a great job on that. They need to be commended as well. Whichever method any church chooses, God can bless it. Especially when these evangelism is backed by miracle they have huge fellowership than what a JW can get while doing door to door.

3. JWs are the ONLY ones who don't celebrate this pagan holidays. Really? No. I would rather say that they are among the few that don't celebrate pagan holidays. Altho their restriction on birthdays is laughable. But pls don't judge others on this. Christ might view things differently. I think christians shouldn't celebrate Christmas but I am careful not to judge.

4. Yup. They don't tithe or obligate members to bring money. That's a huge plus if you ask me. Many churches have turned themselves to business houses. It is sickening.

Does that then mean that they are the only true Christians? No. I mean don't be funny. You can say God is PROBABLY happy with them and yes, individually some faithful persons their could be saved by God since they believe in Jesus. But the only true Christian religion? I don't even see how that is remotely possible.

First, they are not the first Christian church nor do they have link to the first christians.

Secondly, assuming God has changed His mind on the church that has such link, they haven't produced any supernatural or divine miracle from above to show that God has made such a change. So it's very risky to think they are the ONLY true Christian church.

Can't we judge it by few positive attributes they have? No. If you read the bible, you will see countless, I mean countless errors made by the Israelites, who were God's chosen people. Now, you can't because of such idolatry and great moral decay say that God had rejected the Jews. If you do that, you would err. However it was until when God did show that on Pentecost that we know God had changed from using the Jews as a nation.

JWs can't wake up and then claim God has chosen them and you fall for that. Don't be gullible. If I will be kind enough, I will say wait and see if God will pure out his spirit on them to show divine approval. Even at that, they won't be the ONLY ones. Others have received such divine approval. Don't judge other churches based on there few mistakes as imperfect humans. God's view do sometimes differ from what we think.

Yes, give them their plus where they deserve but don't think they are the ONLY Christian church.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:57pm On Apr 07, 2023

No one is reasoning cornelboy: I Just believed someone needs to call out the facts, since you hide behind these suckers, someone might as well speak out some truth among the brotherhood.

cornelboy:
Stop reasoning like a toddler abeg 🙏🏾

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:33pm On Apr 07, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!
So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ I wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus!

Maybe if you didn't write this above, people may actually believe you are someone who understands who Christ is.
Allow me to write down the fact how cunning the Watchtower are, trying to have everybody believe God's true name is Jehovah.
Now I realize the Watchtower had access to the printing press back in 1942 when everyone was fighting protecting their country, while members of the Watchtower hid themselves expecting wife's and children to fight their share of the War.
Which of course gave the Watchtower an helping hand to attack certain bibles, adding and removing certain manuscripts ,taken God's name out of context and replacing it with Jehovah 'as God's only true name.
The Watch Tower.Society Pushes Bible Production and Distribution.
By 1942: the Society was doing its own printing and produced on its own presses copies of the King James Version with marginal references and a concordance prepared by brothersAgain in 1944 it printed the American Standard Version of 1901 featuring the divine name, Jehovah.. In 1972 it published Byington’s The Bible in Living English also featuring the name Jehovah.
So we can see these few bibles the Watchtower had tried to twist their version into a mockery.
They don't realize people understand God through their mind heart and soul : not what God looks like; nor God's name.
Jesus had already warned us not to go after strange doctrines, nor worship idols. Jehovah witnesses idolize Jehovah's name as their image.
The New World Translation bible actually means the New World Order manuscripts.
Max you can't find Trinity written in bibles, I can't find Jehovah written in most bibles either.

MaxInDHouse:
Who is arguing with you?
Perhaps your brains has lost its function due to time, this thread was raised by a young lady who confessed that JW's stand concerning trinity makes sense to her.
So you're the one arguing blindly over what is not written anywhere in the Bible: TRINITY!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 12:56am On Apr 04, 2023

Not according to Max 'Jehovah witnesses are not the true followers of Christ. So this is proof: Jehovah witnesses are lairs, they don't believe. that in Christ 'we will be saved.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

At least there are thousands of religionists on this forum that are from different sects all of them claiming denominations under one umbrella yet with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines leading to abusive speeches and curses while you're all calling yourselves Christians.

So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ I wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:31am On Apr 03, 2023*

Then why do you still argue with me? if you believe you are Christian?
Why are you so against everybody that belongs to other religious denominations, where in fact you yourself refuse to believe in the Word Jesus speaks of God:
Why do you refuse {John 3:3} when in fact it says one must be Born Again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God.
These are God's people He has chosen for His Son Jesus..

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!
So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ I wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus!

This is a sure way to deny Jesus, since you don't believe Jesus is the way to God: then try showing us where Jesus is not the way? show us Jehovah is the only way for the 144000 Watchtower members will in fact enter into the Kingdom of God, without Jesus? prove your point...Obviously you are not on the list.
You have describe yourself pretty well above: since you have been on line-you have done all you have written.
I do like a honest person-you are murdering the people leading them to their deaths, spreading your unscriptual doctrine to the nations, your insults are very abusive, and always arguing and cursing those that disagrees with you.
What demonic activity is stopping you from calling out to Jesus. if you have read the bible in the first place, God the Father gave all His authority over to Jesus His Son, those who believe in Jesus Name,will be saved.
Jehovah can't save you. you are doomed heading in the wrong direction believing he can save you..

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

At least there are thousands of religionists on this forum that are from different sects all of them claiming denominations under one umbrella yet with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines leading to abusive speeches and curses while you're all calling yourselves Christians.

So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ I wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:01am On Apr 03, 2023

This is how crafty you snakes are: trying to twist words: it's common sense: everybody knows Jesus would have raised his voice when preaching to the people-its impossible for anybody to hear somebody speaking from far away.
Jesus also drew in the people with His miracles, which stocked the nations.
{Matthew 12:19} is quoting a version of {Isaiah 42} and applying it to Jesus.
The original passage was, it would seem, written about Israel. Under the inspiration of the Spirit, though, Matthew shows how Jesus has fulfilled the prophecy. Jesus is sometimes called the perfect Israel or the ultimate Israel. He is the best and fullest example of God's chosen people.
Even though Jesus didn't bring attention to Himself: the people brought it to Him, people traveled days just to see Him.
This is how the gospel is spread though out the world 'though word of mouth:
{Isaiah 42:1–3} The passage in Isaiah is describing this servant with whom God is pleased and on whom the Father has placed His Spirit
The servant's work will eventually be to proclaim justice to those who are not Israel, the Gentile nations.The passage in Isaiah is describing this servant with whom God is pleased and on whom the Father has placed His Spirit.
{Isaiah 42:1–3}The servant's work will eventually be to proclaim justice to those who are not Israel, the Gentile nations.

MaxInDHouse:
This happened in the temple where all those in the building left their respective homes for worship so they are all present for the same purpose that's why Jesus did what is right just as the law states.
But yelling at passersby NO he never did that! Matthew 12:19

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:13am On Apr 03, 2023

There is no difference when you decide to knock on doors and begin speaking about your beliefs.Trying to stop people from doing what they were doing.
And you are complaining about how it's done: try looking in your own back yard before judging those who are actually spreading the gospel, you need an audience standing on peoples door steps, expecting them to listen to you, rudely you bring other speakers with you, ganging up on the people trying to confuse the situation, where in fact the person you have decided to harass at the door, you are trying to sell yourselves-to win them over.
{Mark 16:15} Jesus said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
It's the same method used on the streets, they themselves either preach alone or they bring in other speakers to cover the situation, people either listen to the street preachers or they try and talk the street preachers down, is this not the same 'when you disturb people harassing them in there homes.
{Matthew 28:19} Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit
And the reason why you hate the truth so much: is because you haven't got Jesus in your heart. Jehovah is who you serve.

MaxInDHouse:
At a convention where thousands of people gather to listen to someone talking surely loud speakers are needed for everyone in the audience to hear him but that totally differs from a situation where people are going to their respective places of work then someone stood by the street corner or in a bus and start disturbing passersby or passengers in the bus claiming he or she is preaching to them.

Jesus was talking to people who purposely left their house to come and hear him not talking to the air expecting passersby to pick words when they're not even interested in what he's saying! Matthew 12:19

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:30am On Apr 02, 2023*

You are trying to tell me Jesus never shouted while He was preaching the Word of God-so you must believe Jesus could tone His voice down speaking softly while he stood up on a mountain or stood on the fishing boat speaking to hundreds to thousands of people at a time,
So you are trying to convince me all these people have super hearing, while Jesus didn't shout, always spoken softly even though He stood far from them? Maybe a couple of miles a way, and you say these people heard Jesus speaking clearly and softly.
Jesus knew how to pull in the crowds: even on the streets-He done many miracles, the blind now see, the deaf now hear and the dead now walk, and the Pharisees hatred Him for that, and you claim the Pharisees are there listening to the Good News "No" they were questioning Jesus every chance they could prove Jesus wasn't the i AM the Son of God..
So you haven't read where Jesus over turned the tables of the money changers {Matthew 21:12-13}
So you never read this, He was yelling at the people telling them this is the house of God not the house of thieves. Jesus was preaching the truth to them yelling so everybody could hear..
So stop trying to make things up in your mind: you know you don't read the bible: nor do you believe it's God's Word.
You are guessing through your religious concepts you have learnt from a unbiblical organisation that deny's Christ, so it's obvious you haven't the slightest idea God really exist in your heart.Your denial proves you are lost. Allow me to witness to you about Jesus and be saved through Grace-not by works, but by the Gift of God.

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible people gather to listen to what Jesus has to say and Pharisees also come not that Jesus was shouting to unwilling pedestrians. Read what Matthew penned down again before arguing blindly against the truth! Matthew 12:19

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:44am On Apr 02, 2023

Have you run out of words: you can't answer the lie you live for:
God's Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works {Ephesians 2:8-9}
Yet you believe it's the works you do, saves you.
{Ephesians 2:8–9} for example, is clearly worded and unequivocal: “It is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.”
Where in fact the Jehovah Witnesses boast of the works they do.
Grace Alone. Faith Alone. Grace alone means that God loves, forgives, and saves us not because of who we are or what we do, but because of the work of Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
You enemy of faith in Jesus!

Aren't you the same person who said JWs should be pushed to the war front whereas they don't want to be part of those killing their fellow believers like you and your cohorts who are claiming you use weapons for protecting yourselves from your neighbours.

So between JWs who won't lift up weapons against anyone and you that believe you should use weapons who truly believe in Jesus? Matthew 5:43-48

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:07am On Apr 01, 2023*

James says that saving faith is proven to those who observe our lives by what we do, not based on what we say.
If a person's actions do not display a changed life for Jesus Christ, then his claim to be faithful to the Lord is dead.
I don't here the JW's preach about Christ very often, matter of fact: very little: your main focus is upon Jehovah, the Watchtower only witnesses in Jehovah's name: not in Jesus Name: so who's faith do you serve JW? does it belong to the Buddhists, Jews, Hindus and Muslims-all these had refused Jesus: you believe these are faithful members in their midst is not producing fine WORKS.
Where is your faith and works for Christ: that not even you preach His Name to the nations:
You belong to a organisation called the Watchtower, where in fact it's known to the public as a cult: so the name watchtower only means something to their members: not the nations, it is a proven fact the Watchtower refuses Christ and replaced Him with Jehovah: calling on Jehovah's name to save you and serve.
Where is your faith JW obviously not in Jesus-do you honestly believe your faith is in Christ heart soul and mind: where it is a fact you serve another, not Jesus: you put all your faith in Jehovah.We don't have two masters: God gave all His authority to Jesus-you either hate the one or love the other. so who have you given your faith to JW?

MaxInDHouse:
You failed once again!

Masqueraders, Traditionalists, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus and Muslims do have kind and faithful members in their midst but their faith in general that's not producing fine WORKS.
So if you say you're working out fine as a person many faithfuls in various religions are also doing fine individually but it's the WORKS of their faith in general that has nothing to write home about.
That's what James is saying!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:45pm On Mar 31, 2023

There were heaps of unwilling pedestrians on the Streets when Jesus preached: the Pharisees the lawyers and the scribes questioned Jesus every time they listened to Jesus preach..
If you were to read the scriptures yourself you would know there were unwilling people fronting Jesus every chance they could..
The Pharisees planned to destroy Jesus: while Jesus spoke His Word: eventually they crucified Him-now these were unwillingly priest who stood their ground against Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
YES! Jesus taught ONLY those who are willing to listen to him so they came to him and sit on the ground to hear him not unwilling pedestrians and passengers that your noise is disturbing! Matthew 12:19

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:35am On Mar 31, 2023

Jesus taught His Word on the road while he was travelling, He taught the people in the mountains, feeding the 5000, He taught in the towns villages, even to the Samaritans, He was witnessing to His disciples everyday teaching them the Word of God-how about the miracles these were definitely a witness to the people, so yes Jesus made noise he made Himself known to everybody that He is I AM the SON OF GOD.
Jesus had the right authority to claim His rightful place-Matthew tells of a messiah who will be called “Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins” and also be called “Immanuel, which means God with us.”
{Isaiah 9:6} also taught, "his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
{Isaiah 7:14} predicted, "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." In the New Testament,
{Matthew 1:22-23} confirms that the birth of Jesus fulfilled this important prophecy. Of course I now expect you to deny Jesus: so Faith and Works without Christ is dead. Jesus is known by many Names. Just like His Father He is known by Many Names.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus never shouted in the streets! Matthew 12:19
So go and practice whatever pleases you!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:08am On Mar 31, 2023

What is the youth lesson on {James 2 14 26}
James says that saving faith is proven to those who observe our lives by what we do, not based on what we say.
If a person's actions do not display a changed life for Jesus Christ, then his claim to be faithful to the Lord is dead.
Faith without works is dead in Christ, JW, your faith with your work's relies only upon Jehovah-there's a difference, you don't walk with Christ-you deny His name: and His Word.

MaxInDHouse:
Faith must have WORKS! James 2:18-26

Present the works of your faith.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:28am On Mar 29, 2023

Are non-Jewish believers in a Jewish Messiah (Jesus Christ) considered the people of God? Yes.
Jesus came for all mankind, not just to save Israel {Romans 1:16, 10:12; Galatians 3:28}
The relationship of God to His people is more than His calling; they also call Him their God.
David says, “I know, my God, that you test the heart and are pleased with integrity.
All these things have I given willingly and with honest intent.
And now I have seen with joy how willingly your people who are here have given to you” {1 Chronicles 29:17}
Here, God’s people are identified more by their willingness to give themselves to Him than by their nationality.

Anyone who accepts Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord becomes a part of the people of God.
The relationship does not come through church attendance or good deeds.
It is a deliberate choice to follow God alone.
That is why {2 Corinthians 6:16, Mark 8:38} both indicate that a choice has to be made.
And when we make that choice to embrace God, He embraces us as well. Then we truly are His people.
The Watchtower is knowing by their works door knocking and their faithful commitment towards the Watchtower organisation they attend their temple each Sabbath.
So without your faithfulness towards Christ: you are not saved..We don't come in the name of Jehovah he can't save you. We come in the name of Jesus, He can save you.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ continue dreaming in your head i don't care as long as God's organization is performing as Jesus foretold!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:10am On Mar 29, 2023

Unfortunately that is what the scripture is telling us. But you would prefer to twist it just to satisfy yourselves.
There is no where in the bible where it say's we all must go door knocking.
{Luke 10:5-7}, we find direct instruction from Christ not to preach from house to house: “And into whatsoever house you enter, first say, Peace be to this ...
So obviously you are practicing something that is not scriptural..And on top of all that 'you are trying to force people to risk their own lives serving the Watchtower-door to door knocking is not scriptural, especially with the organisation you claim is right, it's members are obviously under a curse disobeying the Word of God.

MaxInDHouse:
So it's in the street corners you should start noise pollution {Matthew 12:19} instead of knocking to greet the householder shey?

Keep deceiving yourself!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:20am On Mar 29, 2023*

What I don't understand about you: is that you stand up for a organisation that has told you, you are under a curse because of your color: you are already branded as an outcast-they have no place for you to serve, they refuse to recognize you even exist: and you accept that rubbish-from an organisation that won't give you time of day, expecting you to go door knocking putting your life at risk, all the name of Jehovah {Not Jesus} so you can earn your way into the new Earth, you believe Jehovah will grant you to become white.
Jesus wasn't white, blacker then most people-and you are told you aren't worthy enough to be classed as a proper member of the Watchtower because your color is black.
You aren't doing yourself any good: trying to fight for the Watchtower-if you became a Born Again christian we accept all color with respect."Everyone is not above the other, it doesn't matter who are Elders Pastors Teachers claim to be-we are or equal in the eye's of God..

MaxInDHouse:
You're a real clown!

So a neighbour who knocks on your door to tell you what he knew about current events and things that's about to happen is disturbing you shey?
Dude stop deceiving yourself, you must go and tell your neighbour anything you know like impending calamity that could affect him if you truly love your neighbour {Mark 12:31} but then you must greet, introduce yourself before telling him or her why you came visiting uninvited {Matthew 10:12} if he's not in the mood then you have to find another appropriate time but when you start shouting in a bus or street corner that's noise pollution! Matthew 12:19

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:07am On Mar 29, 2023

{Matthew 10:1-13} Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you.
What does Matthew chapter 10 verse 11 mean?
Jesus has told them not to take any extra provisions with them. God will provide all they need through the people they minister to in each town. They must not charge for their services of healing and preaching, but they should expect those who are helped to offer them hospitality and provision.
As we read it: it say's as you enter into a town or village search there until you find someone worthy to stay at the there home.
This does not mean go door knocking. This man was street preaching before he found somebody worthy enough the stay with them.. .

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell you're not one of those going to speak with your neighbours in their homes to preach about God's Kingdom as Jesus commanded his own disciples. Matthew 10:11-13
Thanks for your time!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:13am On Mar 28, 2023

If a neighbor knocks on my door to tell me about end time events-then of course I would listen-my neighbor is one like me he believes in God, I don't have atheist strangers coming to my door telling me the world is going to end.
You do the opposite 'strangers don't go to your door you go to theirs. where in fact Jesus told us not the push the Word of God upon anybody.
And because you refuse to obey the Word of God-then this proves you are preaching another doctrine.
You Jehovah witnesses use scripture, but you don't practice it, you don't love anybody outside your organisation, and that's been proven over and over on this page and many other pages, the love you show towards us is always written against us.
You try to defend something you haven't experience it yourself-Watchtower followers are standing on street corners talking with people walking by. They are making noise so the people can hear what they say.
Jesus spoke to the crowds-His disciples spoke also. People came to listen the Jesus-and the disciples also. Just like the Watchtower is doing standing on the streets for months on, so people will know where to find them.
I don't see nor hear people running around the neighborhoods yelling out the world is about to end. This maybe a problem in your house, maybe it's you running around looking through windows watching and lurking the streets -trying to find someone hungry and destitute forcing them to listen to you, on refusal you treat them like you treat us-you send them away empty handed while they are slaving and dying in the streets.
This is what the Watchtower is about-they don't support anybody who refuses their doctrine.

MaxInDHouse:
You're a real clown!

So a neighbour who knocks on your door to tell you what he knew about current events and things that's about to happen is disturbing you shey?
Dude stop deceiving yourself, you must go and tell your neighbour anything you know like impending calamity that could affect him if you truly love your neighbour {Mark 12:31} but then you must greet, introduce yourself before telling him or her why you came visiting uninvited {Matthew 10:12} if he's not in the mood then you have to find another appropriate time but when you start shouting in a bus or street corner that's noise pollution! Matthew 12:19

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:22am On Mar 27, 2023

This is actually what the Jehovah witnesses do-they open up with Jesus-then they push Jesus aside, and then Jehovah takes over. When you decide to become intelligent get back to me.

Janosky:
Indeed, brocab is a shameless pagan deceiving himself in public.

Brocab, is Acts 5:42 in your own Bible?

Acts 5:42
"And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ."

Preaching from door to door & house to house is the obligation of every servant of Jehovah God.

Brocab hates the gospel of the holy scriptures, this pagan Worshipping 3 deities.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:57am On Mar 27, 2023*

How many times have I seen the Jehovah witnesses standing on the side walks giving out their Watchtower mags talking with people walking by?
The disciples preached in the court yards on the temple grounds, taken people to there own homes baptizing them in the Name of Jesus.
So obviously you are doing the same things you disagree with.
Where's the common sense in that? when in fact you disagree with everybody from different denominations who are doing the same as you..
The difference between us, is we preach bible to people, you preach none bible to people, given them false hopes..
{Matthew 10:11} Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave.
This doesn't mean we go to door to door harassing people. If you find somebody who's worthy ask if you could stay at their home until you leave. This man could have stood out on the street all day waiting for that right person to come along.
JESUS" TEACHINGS IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT FORCE THE GOSPEL UPON ANYONE. {Matthew 7:6; 10:11-15}
Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine..

MaxInDHouse:
When Jesus commissioned the preaching he commanded his disciples to go from house to house and door to door! Matthew 10:11-13

He doesn't teach them to stand by the road or public place making noise in the territory {Matthew 12:19} because each of them needs to greet introduce himself or herself then start developing a close friendship with interested person.

Paul expatiate saying it's compulsory for those claiming Christians to preach and their feet needs to be cleaned by the householder! Luke 7:44 compare to Romans 10:15
So only JWs are practicing what Jesus taught.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:28am On Mar 25, 2023

Allow the Word of God prove that MaxInDHouse is wrong again.
Should Christians Preach the Gospel Door to Door {Acts 20:20}?
A quick reading of {Acts 20:20} might give the impression that the apostle Paul went from house to house to preach the gospel of the Kingdom to the unconverted. The context, however, beginning with verse 17, reveals the true meaning.
The apostle Paul "sent to Ephesus and called for the elders of the church," and said to them "I . . . taught you publicly and from house to house" {Acts 20:17-20}
Paul taught the leaders of the church in their own homes. He was not going from house to house attempting to witness to or persuade whomever opened the door.
{Acts 2:46} is another frequently misunderstood scripture:
So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they [the apostles and the new converts] ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart." Notice that these people were all in harmony. They continued "daily with one accord." They were all of the same belief. They were already Christians!
This verse is simply recording the actions of people who ate meals together as one might have close friends over to his home. It says nothing about preaching to strangers...
The apostle Paul had his own hired house at Rome where he "received all who came to him, preaching the kingdom of God," which Jesus had commanded His true servant to preach {Acts 28:30-31}
The apostle Paul was taught the gospel personally by Jesus Christ Himself {I Corinthians 15:8; Galatians 1:11—2:2}
ONE OF JESUS" TEACHINGS IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT FORCE THE GOSPEL UPON ANYONE. {Matthew 7:6; 10:11-15}
The Jehovah witnesses force their doctrine upon everyone door to door. So obviously the Jehovah witnesses don't obey the Commandments of God.
Therefore, it is evident that Paul did not go from house to house trying to convert people.
When Paul preached publicly, it was primarily in the synagogues of his day.

MaxInDHouse:
Whenever misinformed Churchgoers come up with the argument that they are Witnesses of Christ i often pity their condition because from a logical point of view it's clear most of them don't even know the meaning of that word "WITNESSES" to them it's about calling themselves believers simply because they call Jesus "LORD"

Imagine if only JWs are the group known as the preachers and teachers in Jesus' name, there is no promotion of worldly careers {Luke 9:23} there is no room for agitation, vengeance or violence {Mark 12:17: Matthew 5:43-48} there is no room for materialistic lifestyles {Matthew 6:19-21} all members must be peace makers {Matthew 10:16} since you have to preach from house to house and door to door in your neighbourhood! Matthew 10:11-13

Now imagine if all those claiming Christians among the politicians in Nigeria are to preach from house to house and door to door do you think people will spare them without asking so much questions regarding what they're doing with Nigerian resources? Luke 18:18-23

Most of them don't even know what it means to be WITNESSES of a preacher and teacher who always go to visit people in their homes for the preaching and teaching about God's standard!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 5:00am On Mar 24, 2023*

Because you believe God's name is Jehovah you expect everybody to accept it, but you yourself refuses the written Word of God instead you have written your own doctrines, The bible tells us we must not move nor add to His Word-you have don'e the opposite, your organisation have removed God's word and replace it with a lie.
So you yourself don't come in God's name. But your own name. The Watchtower.
JESUS,..EL, ELOAH ...ELOHIM ...EL SHADDAI ..ADONAI...YHWH / YAHWEH / IEHOVAH ...YAHWEH-JIREH ...YAHWEH-RAPHA...Father Abba... Alpha and Omega....The Ancient of Days. Attiyq Youm...The Anointed One. Christos...Living God. El Chay...The God Who Gave You Birth. El Chuwl...The God of Knowledge. El Deah.
So we can see there are many names for God: Jehovah is just one name, yet you think you are God's only true witnesses, how about EL, SHADDAI Witnesses, YHWH Witnesses, How about the Witnesses for CHRIST, are these not worthy to be called Children of God.
As I can see the Watchtower disapproves on the fact that others outside your organisation who served God centuries before and serving God today are well advanced in His Word, yet the Watchtower has no power nor any authority to change any names that was given to God by those who served God.

Janosky:
Because you brocab indulge in addictive hard substances you are now enslaved to the delusion that everyone is like you.

John 5:43, Jesus Christ came in the name of Jehovah God his Father.
You no even value your Papa name.

Carry your Mumu komot from here joor.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 6:22am On Mar 23, 2023*

The Watchtower lunatic is back:
Who thinks he was called by Jehovah, we are not witnesses for Jehovah, we witness for Christ. We are baptized in Christ, we are Born Again through Christ.
Jehovah witness-only witness for Jehovah-true Christians witness for Christ:
Christian means, Christ like: these scriptures: Old and New Testament proves one thing, proves Christ was before the foundation existed. Christ is LORD...
NO I DON'T READ JEHOVAH WITNESSES, so where did they come from? Obviously from La La land still smoking their pot.
O please, really, come up with some truth: we are tried hearing the same old Watchtower literature you JW's give us over and over every time you are on this page. None of the scriptures you give us has anything to do with Jehovah Witnesses.
We are witnesses for Christ-in the name of Jesus Christ-I don't read in the name of Jehovah

Janosky:
Acts11:26 the people of Antioch named the believers 'Christians'.
Acts 15:14-17, the believers identified themselves as Jehovah's witnesses", bearing God's name (the name Jehovah calls His chosen servants)@ Isaiah 43:10(ASV)

Brocab awon WAILERS /Atheist noise makers

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 5:32am On Mar 22, 2023*

The facts are there are so many different denominations, all claiming they are the chosen people, God sent.
There's only one type of people God has called to be with the Lord,
One must be Born Again, before he can enter into the Kingdom of God. {John 3:3}
Many have claimed to be Born Again but are under there Church polonaises: one must be Born under the Church Covenant.
There's only one Covenant we must be under 'and its Christ.
Not Jehovah's Covenant, God Gave all His authority to Christ-we are under the Covenant of Jesus Christ.
So if any denomination claiming to know Christ, and claim there Church, temple, is the Chosen, God sent: RUN.
You will find these are not following the Commandments of God: nor are they meditating on His Word day and night, everyday to even consider God the Almighty even exist.
You will find you are worshiping another.
{Joshua 1:8} He said: mediate night and day-everyday, He didn't say let man remove and add to His Word-where in fact many denominations have done the opposite removing and adding.
If you Watchtower lunatics think you have all the answers about God: without even knowing the scriptures; but adding and removing the importance of God's Word.
{John 8:44} prescribes your mental state of mind.
Your beliefs did not come from God. There's only One God and One Mediator Jesus Christ. if you are praying to another you are praying into thin air, and your prayer's won't be answered.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:24am On Mar 22, 2023

But JW's always claim the bible is to hard for them to understand, its easier for them to twist bible verses they themselves don't understand.
In stead they give out Watchtower booklets using some type of information that really doesn't have anything to do with God.
[John 8:44} gives us a prefect description how these people operate.
It's not Christ like..

cornelboy:
Too long

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Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 2:45am On Mar 17, 2023

And this is coming from someone who believes they are saved-one who was baptized as a child: doesn't prove you walk with the Lord.
Where in fact you don't even read your bible to even understand what is truth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 10:17pm On Mar 13, 2023*

Now this is a man who claims to be Christian related, who thinks he can live a sinless life style, not realizing he has already committed himself to {John 8:44} every time he opens his mouth.
Obviously elated177 is confused, he doesn't know if he is saved, his Church has not explained that to him.
{ John 3:3} One must be Born again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
He is more focus on fagotry, which of course Homosexuality is obviously common around his circle of friends and family he chooses to call brothers.
Could one of you good fellow believers explain to elated177 Homosexuality fagotry is a abomination against YHWH Almighty: maybe if elated177 reads his bible, he will understand he is sinning against God.
I am sure elated177 family friends are praying for him and of course his comrades who stand together daily planning how to do evil against God's Children that don't follow their organisation.
I realize family blood lines can be difficult at times, you call yourself a follower of YHWH but you don't have any fruit that provides us any evidence.
{John 8:44} You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
Set yourself free: and choose Christ, not your own fleshly beliefs.

elated177:
Cab, stop trying to cover up. You are a faggòt. You will continue to wail in frustration because of your failure to channel your lifestyle of faggotry to me.

The righteous walk of that saint of YHVH Almighty who lives in your neighborhood will continue to torment you, your fellow agents of Satan and demons in you.

Come up with another cover up tactics.

Cab, you are a reprobate, a degenerate and a very big, unadulterated fool.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 3:57am On Mar 13, 2023

Is this the scripture you are after..
{Matthew 7:18} A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit
elated177 has a problem calling people names "fagots. I don't think name calling shows good fruit, matter of fact elated177 and the rest claim to be saved and never use scripture to back themselves up..
{Matthew 15:11} It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”
Name calling defiles a person: don't they realize it's a sin..

budaatum:
And such fools have to redefine what they claim to be perfect in so they fit their own redefinition.

Thankfully, they can not hide their fruits.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 3:29am On Mar 13, 2023

I see you are still lost in your sinless life style..No one is Channeling you, as a man yourself, you think all men are after you.
Are you asking me out on a date? You can't stop thinking about faggotry..Go and talk to your pastor explain to him you like other men.
Allow your pastor to point it out to you where in the Word where it say's it is abomination when you choose faggotry over God.

elated177:
Cab, the reprobate and degenerate faggòt, I know why you are so embittered. It is because of your futile attempts to channel faggotry to me. You will continue to wail and lament on this thread.

The reprobate cab, your embittered faggòt soul will continue to carry the thoughts of faggotry which you have been desperately trying to channel to me.

Cab, you are an ezi ohia.

Cab, the righteous walk of that saint, servant, follower or messenger of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, who lives in that your environment will continue to torment you, your fellow serpentine agents and the spirits of vileness in you. No matter how hard the demons try, it will always be impossible for them to hide in the presence of the light for long.

We, elated177 and the other saints, servants, followers and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah, will continue to live sin-free lives.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 2:25am On Mar 09, 2023

Do yourself a favor: test all things, don't believe everything you hear that comes out of ones mouth who claims to be Christian: test everything so you will know what is truth and what is not truth.
{2 Corinthians 11:14-15} And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

mamagee3:
[color=deeppink]Why do people still come up with these lies?

There's no way one would know unless he/she is dead and we all know once someone dies, he/she can't come up ever again, .

So, I thik the story was fabricated.[/color]

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