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Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 12:02pm On Jan 30, 2023

This has nothing to do with being sinless, give him another one..

elated177:
Luke 17: Yahushua said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. 2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 12:01pm On Jan 30, 2023

That's a good idea: just give him scriptures to back up your theory:

elated177:
Ken, you are the who is ignorant.

Ken, the sin-encouragement expert.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 4:56am On Jan 30, 2023

{1 Corinthians 13:4-5} Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
{Ephesians 4:25-26} Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one another. Be angry, yet do not sin.” Do not let the sun set upon your anger,
I suppose you haven't seen these written in the bible: But it's alright I am here to help you...

elated177:
Mtcheeeeew! Trash!

Throw your words of sin-encouragement into the gutter. The saints, servants, followers and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah do not need them.

We, the saints, servants, followers and messengers of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, will continue to walk in perfection. We refuse to lower our standard and settle for less.

The saints, servants, followers and messengers of Yahushua will continue to seek and pursue a sin-free life (perfection) with all their hearts, all their souls, all their minds and all their strengths.

2 Timothy 3: 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

There is no doubt that this message, just like the other messages, which Yahushua the Messiah has used his servant, Elated177, to disseminate here and outside here, is light. Just see how the agents of Satan and the demons are being exposed by it.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 4:43am On Jan 30, 2023*

Why do you refuse speaking in tongues, calling it gibberish when in fact it's a gift given by God:
If I was you-I wouldn't be saying to much about your belief's: already you are denying the Word of God-denying His power.
I actually listened to a sermon from a preacher in Africa from the good news of the kingdom church, He believes Jesus came here to build His kingdom on earth-he said Jesus didn't come here to save:
Obviously the scriptures have other idea's.
{Matthew 1:21} that “he (Jesus) will save his people from their sins”. This was the prophecy spoken to Joseph by an angel, telling him that this baby that Mary was having would bring salvation to mankind.
So this is understandable why you believe you can't sin: you are listening to false teachers.

elated177:
Every saint, servant, follower and messenger of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, can see clearly what has transpired here. This message, as light, is exposing the agents of Satan and the demons who hide behind the Scriptures.

You see, the agents of Satan and the demons can sing "Jesus" songs, dance, pray and fast, preach, quote Scriptures, speak the gibberish that they call tongues, but they can't hide when it comes to the truth of YHVH Almighty. This is where they are exposed.

Luke 6: 46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 4:32am On Jan 30, 2023

When the truth is revealed: it's someone like you; who will always end up a fool..
I speak with many, who claim they are somewhat religious, but never ever consider there is truth: nuts like you who think you are the chosen people by a god:
You have never read this scriptures:: {Galatians 3:28} For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.…
This means we are not all African-we are not all Israel, we are not all Jew nor Greek: we don't all fellowship in just one church building: we don't all practice man made church traditions, but we are all children of God-free in Christ...

elated177:
Cab, the ezi ohia, you are still exhibiting utter foolery.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 4:10am On Jan 30, 2023

elated177:
Cab, if you don't repent and turn away from this your satanic and demonic and jezebellic mission, mission to encourage the seekers of the truth to live in sin, lightning of YHVH Almighty will strike you down.

Cab, where are you going to run to?

Cab, where do you think will be safe for you? Cab, where will you hide from the wrath of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only God?

Cab, where will hide you when the heavens, the sun, the moon, the stars, thunder and lightning, the rain, the wind and the ground are against you?

Where does one get this teaching from, I don't see it written anywhere in the bible: God going to murder His beloved people-it must be a fear method used in the Good news kingdom Church. …\
You definitely don't know the scriptures: you want God to murder His beloved people? where do you get this teaching from? God won't strike down on His people walking with Him with lightening and fire from heaven:
So you think God is a murderer..''Not even the disciples could demand such murder against God's people, without Jesus rebuking them..
{Luke 9:53-55} But the people there refused to welcome Him, because He was heading for Jerusalem.
When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do You want us to call down fire from heaven to consume them?” But Jesus turned and rebuked them.…

elated177:
2 Timothy 3: 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Cab, the ịchị nkịta, are you still here exhibiting utter foolery? You go wail and lament tire here. You are still here trying to save face? Cab, you have already been disgraced and exposed as the true offspring of your father, Satan, the old serpent, and a true son of your mother, Jezebel, the witch.

Cab, if you don't repent and turn away from this your satanic and demonic and jezebellic mission, mission to encourage the seekers of the truth to live in sin, lightning of YHVH Almighty will strike you down.

Cab, where are you going to run to?

Cab, where do you think will be safe for you? Cab, where will you hide from the wrath of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only God?

Cab, where will hide you when the heavens, the sun, the moon, the stars, thunder and lightning, the rain, the wind and the ground are against you?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 3:43am On Jan 30, 2023*

{ 2 Timothy 3-6} has nothing to do with your threats against me!
No one but you, have dishonored the Lord-I haven't once threatened you with violent's and murder-where in fact you have with me. ''And you claim you are walking with God? Which god?

elated177:
Where do you think will be safe for you, cab?
Where do you think you will hide when the sun, the moon, the stars, the rain, the wind and the ground are against you, cab?

Change of heart: now you want to correct yourself.

elated177:
Cab, where are you going to run to?
Cab, where will hide you when the heavens, the sun, the moon, the stars, thunder and lightning, the rain, the wind and the ground are against you?

Ever since I have been on this page: you haven't stopped cursing a Child of God, you haven't even considered that God has workers in places you may never see.
Don't be surprised: when they separate you from the sheep: joining the goats.
You screwed up: you do play around with craft: eventually you showed us your true colors:
When you were asked by others in Christ-about your beliefs, you choose not to share it, hiding behind your true identity-it wasn't long before you opened up your mouth wide enough before you wrote it down 'for us to all see.
Just look at yourself: you are still cursing: throwing all sorts of hatred against me: and you see yourself as a child of God...

elated177:
2 Timothy 3: 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Cab, the ịchị nkịta, are you still here exhibiting utter foolery? You go wail and lament tire here. You are still here trying to save face? Cab, you have already been disgraced and exposed as the true offspring of your father, Satan, the old serpent, and a true son of your mother, Jezebel, the witch.

Cab, if you don't repent and turn away from this your satanic and demonic and jezebellic mission, mission to encourage the seekers of the truth to live in sin, lightning of YHVH Almighty will strike you down.

Cab, where are you going to run to?

Cab, where do you think will be safe for you? Cab, where will you hide from the wrath of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only God?

Cab, where will hide you when the heavens, the sun, the moon, the stars, thunder and lightning, the rain, the wind and the ground are against you?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 12:23pm On Jan 28, 2023

elated177:
Where do you think will be safe for you, cab? Where do you think you will hide when the sun, the moon, the stars, the rain, the wind and the ground are against you, cab?
This is deafeningly Witchcraft:
Cab, if you don't repent and turn away from this your satanic mission, mission to encourage people to live in sin, lightning of YHVH Almighty will strike you and your handlers down. Don't say I didn't warn you.

So you practice witchcraft interesting: so you are obviously taught this in the good news of the kingdom church, now I understand which kingdom you belong too. Know wonder you wanted my name: use your witchcraft to caste out spells against me:
You need to repent to the Lord: then I got to ask which lord are you really serving? you need saving-sorcery is dangerous: if you are a child of God you wouldn't even be walking down this road: silly woman:
(Galatians 5:19-21) The apostle Paul lists sorcery as one of many sinful practices that mark the lives of unbelievers: “Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife . . . and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God”
{Exodus 22:18-20} Death is the punishment for witchcraft.
But thanks for your honesty: I don't need to talk with you about God. You serve another..

elated177:
Cab, you are an ewu. Cab, you are an mkpi ohia.

I told you that you would continue to wail and lament all over my threads.

Ezekiel 13: 22 Because you disheartened the righteous with your lies, when I had brought them no grief, and because you encouraged the wicked not to turn from their evil ways and so save their lives, 23 therefore you will no longer see false visions or practice divination. I will save my people from your hands. And then you will know that I am YHVH.’”

Cab, you are a degenerate, a reprobate and a fool.

Ezekiel 13:13 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign YHVH says: In my wrath I will unleash a violent wind, and in my anger hailstones and torrents of rain will fall with destructive fury.

Where do you think will be safe for you, cab? Where do you think you will hide when the sun, the moon, the stars, the rain, the wind and the ground are against you, cab?

Cab, if you don't repent and turn away from this your satanic mission, mission to encourage people to live in sin, lightning of YHVH Almighty will strike you and your handlers down. Don't say I didn't warn you.

The fact that you still continue to promote your lawlessness here shows that you are, indeed, shameless and a very big, unadulterated fool.

Tufiaaakwaaa!

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 11:37am On Jan 28, 2023*

elated177:
If I decide to show you aggression, where do you think will be safe for you? Where do you think you will hide?

This deafeningly shows you don't practice faith: I don't read you living a sin free life? If you were a child of God this aggression wouldn't even be written in the first place:.
{Psalm 101:7} He who works deceit shall not dwell within my house; He who tells lies shall not continue in my presence
{Psalm 66:18} If I regard iniquity in my heart, The Lord will not hear.
So good luck with your praying: because the Lord said: He won't hear you.
{Luke 6:28} won't suit you:
But this should suit you fine. {John 8:44} You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
Say hello to daddy elated 177
The Five Marks of Mission: One – to proclaim the Good News of the Kingdom: another bunch of people dressed in white claiming to be God's chosen:
The Watchtower are the same: they believe they are God's chosen too. Why can't you nutters believe God has His workers all over the globe, your church began 300 years ago, the Watchtower began over 200 years ago: both organisations believe are both chosen vessels.
So which is it_ you, or is it the Watchtower chosen? I think none of you are chosen: Just a pack of wolves twisting the Word of God.
These are the chosen: those that seek after the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. are His Children, who obey the Commandments of God:
These are His true followers. Not those who threaten other believers: not those living immoral life styles.
Not same cultist groups who think they know the scriptures of God more then the rest of the world. When in fact they dispute against the Written Word of God-and everyone that believes in the scriptures.
This describes you: against everybody that believes outside your church..

elated177:
Tell us your real name first so we can ascertain your honesty, sincerity and truthfulness. Start with that first.

Lets ask you, what is your real name: obviously elated 177 sounds like a prison name and number: I suppose you would feel like a prisoner: they have uniforms too.

elated177:
Ezekiel 13: 22 Because you disheartened the righteous with your lies, when I had brought them no grief, and because you encouraged the wicked not to turn from their evil ways and so save their lives, 23 therefore you will no longer see false visions or practice divination. I will save my people from your hands. And then you will know that I am YHVH.’”

Cab, you are an mkpi ohia.

Cab, if I show you aggression, no where on the surface of the earth will be safe you.

Cab, you are a reprobate, a denegenerate and a fool of the worst kind.

You want to steal the joy of my salvation. It will be easier for you, cab, to perish than to do such.

Cab, people like you, people who call themselves spiritual fathers, are responsible for the wickedness in the society. You and they are the reason the Good News of the Kingdom has no impart and impact in the society out there. Just look at you, agent of Satan and the demons, vehemently opposing a message that borders on a sin-free life - a life that the Scriptures, which you claim you believe in and follow, explicitly and copiously encourage. Cab, you are a typical wolf in sheep's clothing. I am not surprised. It is stated in clearly in the Scriptures.

So, a person who has the grace of YHVH Almighty to live a sin-free life should desist it but should rather lower his standard so that you and your fellow reprobates and degenerates could be all fine and dandy. Woe unto you and them!

Tell us your real name first so we can ascertain your honesty, sincerity and truthfulness. Start with that first.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 9:47am On Jan 28, 2023

You don't have to explain, I understand: you were willing to be up front; that's all what matters.. Thank you for your honesty.

Kobojunkie:
1. I believe Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear in the context of His teachings that what you quote there belonged to a time that was in the beginning, right before God cursed marriage and made divorce acceptable in marriage, and as such God no longer joins any man and woman in marriage. Instead, He left marriage up to the schemes of men.

2. I believe what I said is Your personal digest of what I said is your digest.

3. So, what you are saying is that even those born-agains who entered into the Kingdom of God through the Broad gate that leads to destruction at the end — Hellfire aka eternal damnation — also have the Holy Spirit as their teacher?

4. Please save your prayers for your own self as you will need them more. The fact that you continue to argue against Jesus Christ's very Words, means you have yet to begin walking towards Him let alone accepting Him even after claiming you have studied your bible for so long.

So, I am guessing since you don't accept the Truth of Jesus Christ, you will also not accept the fact that Jesus Christ made clear that God, the Father, sent Him only to the lost sheep of Israel - Matthew 15 vs 22 - 24 - meaning that only those who are born of the blood of Jacob can become born-again and experience the love of Jesus Christ - Matthew 7 vs 6 & Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34. You can also not accept that part of His Truth as well, can you?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 9:39am On Jan 28, 2023

Well if the Word of God are lies to you, then you are in the wrong business.

elated177:
Ezekiel 13: 22 Because you disheartened the righteous with your lies, when I had brought them no grief, and because you encouraged the wicked not to turn from their evil ways and so save their lives, 23 therefore you will no longer see false visions or practice divination. I will save my people from your hands. And then you will know that I am YHVH.’”

Cab, you be ewu! Cab, you be ichi nkita.

Cab, you are a reprobrate, a denegenerate and a fool.

Cab, you are a very big, unadulterated fool.

You want to steal the joy of my salvation? Well, you can't do it. It is not possible. It will be easier for you to perish than to do such.

Cab, if you don't mind yourself, lightning is going to strike you down. I have warned you already.

I can see that you are an unrepentant agent of Satan and the demons who is bent on encouraging people to live in sin. Spawn of Satan. Offspring of the serpent. Woe on to you, cab.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 8:21am On Jan 28, 2023*

elated177:
If I decide to show you aggression, where do you think will be safe for you? Where do you think you will hide?

Aggression: feelings of anger or antipathy resulting in hostile or violent behavior; readiness to attack or confront.
So aggression shows feelings of anger, you have come at me with feelings.
And that's as far as it will go: you already know no-one is going to take any notice of you: and no one ever does: it's only written words, I am trying to help you.
I can help you find the Lord: I can even ask many believers on this forum to support you to find salvation:
When speaking about the Lord always use scripture: of understanding-makes sure it lines up with your topic. that way Christians will understand you more clearly:
Don't be a lair from the beginning..we are warned by Jesus about many false teachers, that are among us: deceiving millions of followers everyday.
Instead you showing your threatening aggressive nature with violence against me: try it this way:
{Luke 6:27-28} But to those of you who will listen, I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you.
If you knew Christ: you would feel much better praying for somebody.
Violence and Murder is from the devil:
{John 8:44} You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
If you just open up your heart a little towards Christ: you will see this forum is full of God given believers: who spend hours day and night mediating in the Word of God.
Forums like this is a blessing for us all-don't ever shy away from whom you believe in: we are all here learning from the scriptures,
I am trying to help you: first seek the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all things shall be added to you:
This verse means, seeking the Word of God...
Have you ever read {Joshua 1:8} This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.
I am trying to help you: help you find the truth:

elated177:
Cab, you are an ewu! Cab, you be ịchị nkịta.

Cab, you are a reprobate, a denegenerate and a fool.

I don't think you know what aggression is. If you did, you would not have made such comment.
If I decide to show you aggression, where do you think will be safe for you? Where do you think you will hide?

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 10:34pm On Jan 27, 2023*

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid this claim of yours is not according to God. Once you are married to someone you are married to that one. If you want to divorce the person, you are free to. Using God as an excuse is cowardice and has nothing to do with God.
2. I don't believe in "using" scripture. I instead, accept and obey the teachings and commandments of God and allow Him to polish my understanding according to His Law, Jesus Christ.

Let not man separate what God has brought together. Firstly God didn't put all marriages together: people in genial these days marry without Gods consent. Many marriages come together through lust-not all Christians seek after God's Will-but their own will to be married, Did God put men with men or women with women or child with adults, I don't think so: it is abomination against God.

Thanks you for your honesty: you don't believe in using the scriptures..
Not believing in the scriptures proves why you are not being fed: this is why you are confused, "every Born Again believer in Christ use the scriptures: How does anybody learn the Commandments: when in fact you don't learn from the scriptures?
How do you know its God teaching you? What laws are you obeying when you refuse to learn from the scriptures-Satan also comes in like the angel of light.
Every believer on here have used the scriptures: with understanding, you come here without understanding, because you claim you tune into God another way through mediation: any other way, other then God's way-is practicing witchcraft.
Every Born Again believer are led by the Holy Spirit to the scriptures: He teaches us all things using the scriptures: the scriptures are food for the body: we mediate on the Word of God daily studying the scriptures:
So you are learning the Commandments of God without the scriptures: if it wasn't for the scriptures, we wouldn't have known the Commandments existed.
I am not angry at you-wasting my time: matter of fact: thank you again for your honestly: I will pray for you: that the Lord will open up your eye's to understand the truth: and the Lord will call you into His Kingdom and you will become a true Born Again believer in due time.
Amen...

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid this claim of yours is not according to God. Once you are married to someone you are married to that one. If you want to divorce the person, you are free to. Using God as an excuse is cowardice and has nothing to do with God.

2. I don't believe in "using" scripture. I instead, accept and obey the teachings and commandments of God and allow Him to polish my understanding according to His Law, Jesus Christ.

3. I am afraid I don't follow at all. It seems you don't in fact read to grasp what is being said to you at all. Again, the Old Covenant Law was given as the National Constitution of the Nation of Isreal in the Land of Canaan. You don't live in the land of Canaan, so why do you believe the 10 commandments apply to you — against God's own decree in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20?

4. So basically what you are saying is you want me to believe that you follow the word of God yet you do not accept the teachings of Jesus Christ is what you are saying? You do not accept that it is possible for the Truth of God to set you free from slavery to sin? You do not believe it is possible for Jesus Christ to really set anyone free from slavery to sin? That is what you are telling me here.

5. Actually, if you paid close attention to the context of passages from where you pulled that verse, in each case, you would find it is clearly explained right there. But if you choose to blindly judge everything based on that verse which you conveniently pulled out-of-context, then you will find you render all the prophets who ever lived, Jesus Christ included, unrighteous and of sin by your blindness. So, try to pay attention to context when reading from scripture. Also, the Word of God is Jesus Christ, not your bible.

6. You refused to answer the questions I had asked earlier which is why you reject what God has decreed in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? It is of importance cause you say one thing but seem to believe another entirely.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 9:42pm On Jan 27, 2023

You claim to be somewhat christian and then you write this: you are calling a child of God satanist and demonic.
{Matthew 12:32} Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man can be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, either in this world or in the world to come.
We are children of God: where in fact you claim to be a child of God? because we are not from your organisation nor agree upon your teaching, who made you superior above others. We are all here learning from each other-which of course helps us all to study the scriptures.
The Lord said: we will know them by their fruit: Now you claim by mediation you are tuned in with God: seeking His Word-if that is the case, then what people write shouldn't bother you: you would pray for them: but instead you begin mocking against the child of God..
You don't see me upset every time someone doesn't agree with me, so one may ask: who is really seeking after God? I will pray for you:

elated177:
Agent of Satan and the demons, take your satanic and demonic mindset somewhere else. If not, continue to wail in anger and frustration all over my threads. You are wasting your time. Just as darkness is exposed in the presence of the light, so you have been exposed here. If you have any shame, you will steer clear of my threads on this forum.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:30am On Jan 27, 2023

I do know the reason you won't direct me to that faithful believer saving lost souls in the Watchtower: because you already know the truth: there isn't one.

MaxInDHouse:
If you haven't then forget about Watchtower and go find your kind elsewhere!

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 10:18am On Jan 27, 2023

I just love the Word of God testing everything that comes my way-your mediation doesn't work for you-you aren't focused upon God, you are so aggressive: Love you neighbor; how does the love of God shine through you?
One would think you would love the challenge testing yourselves to see if you are walking in the Word of God..

elated177:
Agent of Satan and the demons, take your satanic and demonic mindset somewhere else. If not, continue to wail in anger and frustration all over my threads. You are wasting your time. Just as darkness is exposed in the presence of the light, so you have been exposed here. If you have any shame, you will steer clear of my threads on this forum.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 10:07am On Jan 27, 2023

form of rebellion is not actually rebellion is it. So if I walked out from my spouse: that God never put together, then whom am I rebelling against, God or the spouse?
I use the scriptures like everybody else who are saved and ready to write about God, so who are you to tell me which scripture to use and not to use?
Your problem is-you know the scriptures are true-but you choose to rebel against them: this is why I use scripture: without them I would be like you a trumpet blowing without sound..
You don't like using the Old Testament with the New Testament, the 10 Commandments are Old testament-you did say you obey the Commandments of God: you even follow the Sabbath.
You can believe you are following all God's commandments, His Laws, and His Covenant, you can believe your sins are washed clean, because you obey God's Commandments, you are now purified-as white as snow, but what you don't understand, is we are sinners born into sin.
No sin was found in Jesus.
Why would the Word of God say: as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good,{ Romans 3:10, Psalm 53:1–3, Psalm 14:1-3}
Once we become Born Again we are not automatically washed and cleanse purified from sin. Yes if we do follow the Commandments of God we are walking in righteousness, but that doesn't say we are not sinners.
Mediate on His Word { Joshua 1:8} and do the things what is written in the book-still doesn't mean we are free from sin..

Kobojunkie:
By the way, I am not the only one who has awakened to God's Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, in the Kingdom of God.

This is true: you are not the only one who obeys the commandments of God His laws and truth. I have been waiting for you to agree upon the Word of God, since we began. you are right God has His people all over the world worshiping Him in spirit and in truth. Obeying the Commandments of God...

Kobojunkie:
1. Why do you keep referencing that which is tied to the Old Law of Moses, the National Constitution of the State of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 ? By ignoring what is clearly indicated right there in Deuteronomy 30 , doesn't that mean you already don't care what God has decreed as far who the Law applies to?

Jesus Christ is God's New Law and agreement in the Kingdom of God promised by God to the House of Jacob through the prophets- Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 & Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30 & Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 - and He clearly warned that it is against Him to attempt to mix the Old Wine with the New Wine. So, by ignoring Jesus Christ, the one who you claim to receive salvation from, are you currently listening to God?

2. This does not make sense. If I walk out on my family, friends, and even my boss, isn't that the ultimate form of rebellion that there is? in Jesus Christ, only those who do that will enter in through the Narrow Gate which leads to True life.

3. Are you sure about that ?

By the way, I am not the only one who has awakened to God's Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, in the Kingdom of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 9:00am On Jan 27, 2023

Kobojunkie:
2. I am afraid you are mistaken. "Niceness" is not of the Kingdom of God. You are to do to others as you would like for them to do to you -- that is the general rule as far as your neighbours in the Kingdom of God.

How does one love his neighbor if one doesn't show any kindness or niceness towards them?

Kobojunkie:
Even Jesus Christ rebuked the Pharisees and His own disciples when they needed rebuking. It is a mistake to confuse what are moral codes with God's Law in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that is not of the world of men..

Obviously when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and His Disciples they were rebelling against God's Word.

Kobojunkie:
It is a mistake to confuse what are moral codes with God's Law in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that is not of the world of men.

No flesh and blood can enter into the Kingdom of God.
Now I don't know what your beliefs are: you seem to be all over the place, at first your page sounds like once born again always born again, so when I am answering your first page, you then switch to another channel: and this is where it brings in confusion.
Many of us on here have studied the scriptures for years, you and your girl friend elated177: claim no one is saved. But you? "but sadly to your knowledge you haven't the slightest idea how to recognize other believers who are outside your organisation, matter of fact there are millions upon millions walking with Christ.
The Lord said: by their fruit we know them. Not only did Christ have His Disciples, He had the 70 who had gone out working for the Lord rebuking and casting out demons out of people in Jesus's Name.
So don't surprised who's out there working for the Lord, because what you aren't doing for God, the Lord will send somebody else....

Kobojunkie:
1. Rebellion is not a sin. As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ commands His followers to abandon friends, family, children, spouse, etc., in order to become worthy of Him. So how can rebellion of the kind you speak of be a sin?

2. I am afraid you are mistaken. "Niceness" is not of the Kingdom of God. You are to do to others as you would like for them to do to you -- that is the general rule as far as your neighbours in the Kingdom of God. Not what you listed there. Even Jesus Christ rebuked the Pharisees and His own disciples when they needed rebuking. It is a mistake to confuse what are moral codes with God's Law in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that is not of the world of men.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 8:02am On Jan 27, 2023

Ok elated177: Who do I listen to? you or God? {1 Samuel 15:23} For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry.Because you have rejected the word of the Lord.
Rebellion does not mean because you have left family friends-or children spouse behind-that is not rebellion: who are you rebelling against?
I believe in the scriptures: {Matthew 19:29} Truly I tell you," Jesus replied, "no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for My sake and for the gospel.
So you must be a only one, in all of history surviving in a no mans land for the gospel.

Kobojunkie:
1. Rebellion is not a sin. As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ commands His followers to abandon friends, family, children, spouse, etc., in order to become worthy of Him. So how can rebellion of the kind you speak of be a sin?

2. I am afraid you are mistaken. Niceness is not of the Kingdom of God. You are to do to others as you would like for them to do to you -- that is the general rule as far as your neighbours in the Kingdom of God. Not what you listed there.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 7:45am On Jan 27, 2023

Kobojunkie:
▪︎ So you never rebel against anybody,
▪︎ neither does your children rebel against their Brothers Sisters nor parents,
▪︎ you never get angry-you never argue,
▪︎ you never raise your voice,
▪︎ you never say bad words against anybody,
▪︎ you are never rude,
▪︎ you are always polite when one on line ask you a question,
▪︎ you call people names,
▪︎ you never swear under your breath....

These are instead rules defined in moral codes that individuals hold on to -- they have nothing to do with that which God in fact commands.

Yes it does, rebellion is a sin. Jesus warns us not to do any of these, He said: love your neighbor these are commands.

Kobojunkie:
1. Is this passage saying that Jesus Christ also sinned against God?

2. Does this verse here imply then that not a single soul — not even John the Baptist, Zechariah & His wife Elizabeth, Joseph father of Jesus Christ, Prophet Anna, etc. —sought after God and not one of those acknowledged in the Gospels as being righteous were in fact so?

3. Meditation does not render or keep anyone from sinning. It is only through continuous submission and obedience to God's Law — the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, that one can come to a Knowing of the Truth of God and eventually be set free by the Truth of God - John 8 vs 31 - 36. And your churches have nothing to do with this as Jesus Christ defines an individual contract/relationship between the individual and God.

4. As I said before, in order to understand Holiness, one has to understand God's Law — learn the actual commandments that help define what sin is — from the lies and delusions out there. The following, for example, are not part of the Law that is Jesus Christ and hence are not sins in the Kingdom of God

▪︎ So you never rebel against anybody,
▪︎ neither does your children rebel against their Brothers Sisters nor parents,
▪︎ you never get angry-you never argue,
▪︎ you never raise your voice,
▪︎ you never say bad words against anybody,
▪︎ you are never rude,
▪︎ you are always polite when one on line ask you a question,
▪︎ you call people names,
▪︎ you never swear under your breath....

These are instead rules defined in moral codes that individuals hold on to -- they have nothing to do with that which God in fact commands.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 7:28am On Jan 27, 2023

I have read your pages and you come across sinless.
If you want to go deep-I will go deep into scripture.
We are born into sin-you can't run from that-its in our members, once we become Born Again it doesn't just disappear, because you believe you are following the 10 commandments. Try the 613 laws God gave the people-obey them?
Jesus had given us power and authority to rebuke in His name-so why did Jesus give us this authority to caste out demons, heal the sick, the blind now see and deaf hear and the dead raised. if you believe, becoming Born Again our sins have now washed away? What about our ancestors sin's were they washed away:''when they saw mediums and got involved in sorcery and witchcraft: and after they died their sins continualed to the third and fourth generation:
{Exodus 34:6-7 Deuteronomy 5:8-10}“Because of their iniquity, and also because of the iniquities of their fathers they shall rot away like them.” {Leviticus 26:39} The Lord...visits the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation.
So when you were saved were you delivered from family curses that had been running through for centuries, why do we live in Poverty-and not the rich mans life, or maybe we are still under the curse our ancestors left behind.
We need to fast and pray to be delivered from curses 'that have come down the line..
{1 Samuel 15:23} For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because they had rejected the word of the Lord.
They sinned against God. Becoming Born Again Jesus has giving us the authority to over come-whatever comes up against us. He has given us power in His Name.
{Deuteronomy 18:10–12} There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or none who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord, and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before you.
What I read from your pages-it seems you believe in the same theories as the once born again always born again believers. becoming sinless. "We all struggle through life: we are not completely saved until we are with Christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 6:03am On Jan 27, 2023

After I read your page I have answered to your call-you believe after you became Born again no sin is found in you.

Kobojunkie:
I am having a hard time resolving the content of your response with that which is infact contained in my response to you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 5:25am On Jan 27, 2023*

I think you are confused-no one is good and does not sin.This is the Word of God-who do we believe ''you' or ''God''
What this sounds like: after you became Born Again, you don't need to go to the Father for anything-you are now prefect, I suppose you call yourself I AM.
So since you are saved-you have never been angry-nor have you shown anger towards others, you never swear, your Yes is always Yes and your No is always No.
You never argue, no one, not even God have seen iniquity in your heart, since you have been saved, never idolatry found in you, you never have had: haughty eyes, that describes a feeling of pride and looking down upon others..
Never a lying tongue, one that speaks falsehood, knowingly and willingly, with an intention to deceive others.
Of course you have never: used hands that shed innocent blood, this refers to cold-blooded murder.
We may never have orchestrated killing someone or never have touched a gun or knife, but in {Matthew 5:21–24} Jesus says that anyone who is angry with someone else unreasonably without offering room for forgiveness commits a sin equivalent to murder.
So obviously you had no reason to forgive others: not even your parents nor other family members: that you may have unforgiveness in your heart: you may not even have spoken to someone you have known for years, it could be your sister or brother: because of something they may of said: or done to you, and you refuse to even pick up the phone to call them..
Your heart is always pure-never would your heart devises wicked schemes against anybody.
Never would you be involved with feet that are quick to rush into evil: obviously you have never had temptation, never have you looked at the opposite sex, having that passion of lust.
You are somebody that has never stirred up dissension among brothers:
Just like you do 'on line, trying to be some type of know it all, no one knows the scripture only yourself..
You have never been a false witness that pours out lies: you have never falsely accused anybody for stealing something from you-you have never pointed your finger at anybody falsely?
just like we read in: {1 kings 21:8-14}
Now you are saved you could never break the commandments of God, your flesh has got to be super human-Like Paul said: He had another member waging war against his mind: obviously you haven't got the other member: Paul wrote about,
At least I can be up front-I repent even if I know I haven't done or said anything wrong,
I have no pride, I repent daily, even my thoughts that come into my mind, even after I awake from sleep, I repent.
I don't think you realize that God comes to us while we sleep-He gives scriptures, usually because He is trying to show us something we ourselves need to deal with, before moving forward.
He maybe telling us we may have unforgiveness in our hearts, and we need to deal with it, if we can't forgive others, neither will God forgive us, I find fasting and praying leads us into repentance, this is a sure way coming into obedience with God.
Even while we sleep, the demonic host can come to us as a angel of light, in sleepiness is our weakness point-Demons also are making Covenants with people while they sleep-deceiving Christians, who now believe there in no sin found in them, after they are saved...
I don't go around stirring up conflict in the community. We are born into sin-its in our members, once we become Born Again it doesn't just disappear, because you believe you are following the 10 commandments. Try the 613 laws God gave the people-obey them?
Jesus had given us power and authority to rebuke in His name-so why did Jesus give us this authority to caste out demons, heal the sick, the blind now see, the deaf hear, and the dead raised. if you believe there is no sin found in you,
You also obey the Sabbath: where in the New testament Jesus never mentioned anything about keeping the Sabbath. The Pharisees Hated Jesus not keeping their fathers tradition, Jesus told the man to pick up his bed and walk on the Sabbath day: Jesus surely broke there tradition:
But yet it is written in scripture {Revelation 1:10} the first day of the week gathering. We also have Jesus saying to His Disciples 8 days from now I will return: So from the day Sunday to Sunday is 8 days. {John 20;26}
I don't get taught up with tradition: I say everyday is a good time to worship.

Kobojunkie:
1. God says that without Holiness aka perfection it will be impossible for you to see him meaning all of your effects will be in vain. Jesus Christ urged that you be perfect/holy even as The Father in Heaven is perfect. Now , perfection/Holiness is as defined by and in God's Law, Jesus Christ, and He made it known to you that the Law which He gives to you comes with a light yoke and an easy burden for you to bear - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30. He even went on to make clear that it is only when you live your life in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments that you can truly belong to Him - John 14 vs 15 - 20., and be made Holy by the knowing of Him, God's Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 38. So, I think the major question here would be why do you not believe the Words of Jesus Christ?

2. Right after God has forgiven you your sins and purified you of all unrighteousness, do you remain stained by sin hence filled with unrighteousness?

3. Your humility means absolutely nothing to God is you do not trust nor obey Him to begin with. You need to first resolve first issue, do you trust that by doing what God has commanded of you, He is indeed able to free you from slavery to sin? If you don't, then all is for nought.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 10:34am On Jan 26, 2023

So this coming from a person who claims to mediate: and their is no sin found in them
Just listen to yourself, look at the way I am being treated by you, don't you realize if you disregard iniquity in your heart the Lord will not hear. He who works deceit shall not dwell within my house, he who tell lies shall not continual in my presence. meaning: after reading your page, you are lying about what mediation you claim to have, obviously it's not working for you', you are mean and corrupt..
No one said: anything about teaching you, I said: we are here to learn of each other.

elated177:
I thought you wanted to teach me? You don't want me to learn from others again? Why do you keep coming back to this thread to vent your frustration? What is it with the fixation? What is your mission? You are just wasting your time.

Am I compelling you to observe the Sabbath? Did I put a knife to your throat or a gun to your head to compel you to observe the Sabbath?

Is someone a member of the Body the Messiah simply because he or she says so? By their deeds we will recognize them.

About identity, can you tell me your real name?

I am glad you just completely described yourself with 1 Timothy 6:3-5 that you quoted.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 10:20am On Jan 26, 2023

So you have finely seen your face in the mirror.

elated177:
The satanic agents, wolves in sheep's clothing, are exposing themselves.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:18am On Jan 26, 2023

I haven't found a faithful person yet that belongs to the Watchtower-direct me to the department you speak off, I would like to meet a faithful person in Christ that is actually saving lost souls in the Watchtower.

MaxInDHouse:
Faithless people like you can't preach to convince anyone but when you find a faithful person you want him to join you in your delusion.
Rozz was convinced that JWs are right due to our conversation and she began calling me her SUGAR DADDY (SD) if you feel like there's something in your skull go out there or even in this forum and convince just one person to believe in your hopeless gods!

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 10:15am On Jan 26, 2023

Stay with it bro, you know the Word, you will be good to have around..

paxonel:
exactly

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 10:12am On Jan 26, 2023

{Ecclesiastes 7:20} Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
So obviously someone is lying, I know it's not the Word of God.
Romans 3:10-12,,Psalm 14:1-3, Psalm 53:1-3} as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”
So your mediation keeps you from sinning? so this means you are no longer sinners, your life is prefect-the Lord had only granted your Church with this gift of knowledge.
[color=#000099]So you never rebel against anybody, neither does your children rebel against their Brothers Sisters nor parents, you never get angry-you never argue, you never raise your voice, you never say bad words against anybody, you are never rude, you are always polite when one on line ask you a question, you never put yourself above anybody else, you call people names, you never talk behind someone's back, you never gossip, you never swear under your breath, everything is guns and roses, only because sin is not in your members..

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 8:30am On Jan 26, 2023*

Obviously these people can live a prefect life style without sinning-these are super humans, I am in confession every morning, after I sleep 'I wake up repenting, we war against our mind, the law is Spiritual, we have got to ask them about whom do we confess our sins to, if not God? {1 John 1:9} If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
This is a consent reminder to humble ourselves before our Father, repeatedly repenting, asking Him to forgive us our sins-our own fathers disciplines us and we respect them for that, how much more can God do for us.

paxonel:
There is nothing like sin-free like!

Yes, it is true that one can avoid sin to the bearest minimum according to the 1John 3:9 you quoted, but before quoting 1John 3:9, always have it at the back of your mind that there is 1 John 1:8

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

So there is nothing like sin-free life!
Rather we can only manage our morality and limit our sin to the besrest minimum based on how knowledgeable we are.

The more we are ignorant the more sinful we are. The more knowledgeable we are the less sin we commit and more grace to enjoy this life.

Before you start preaching repentance ask yourself, does the person you are asking to repent have the knowledge or capacity to maintain that level of repentance?

So if there is anything one should pursue first, irrespective of your religion, doctrine or creed is knowledge and understanding.

Atleast go school

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 8:21am On Jan 26, 2023*

So you believe by mediating you can push all your sins away from your mind-you can live that prefect lifestyle, through mediation-So no matter what happens you can push it all away, you live a prefect life style, I never read the disciples were living a prefect life style-I reads they were struggling through it-According to Paul, {Romans 7:14-23} But you aren't Paul nor the disciples.

elated177:
Sin-free life is possible and achievable. Pursue it with all your mind, all your soul, all your strength and all your heart. Allow that consciousness to flow in you.

James 3: 1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

Seek perfection. Settle for nothing less. We have been called-out, set-apart, from the world to be pure, holy, truthful and righteous. In your thoughts, actions, words and deeds, seek perfection. Pursue it like your existence depended on it. This perfection is better than anything on earth that you can think of. It gladdens the eyes and warms the heart.

Brothers and sisters, seek and pursue perfection.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 8:13am On Jan 26, 2023

By looking at your page-I see another lingo that is used among the Once Born Again always Born Again believers, they believe after they had said: the salvation prayer, and repented once, no matter what happens they are always saved. "no repentance no forgiveness living a immoral life style and still be the Lord..
You must live a prefect life-that not even the disciples could live it. According to Paul {Romans 7:14-23}
{Jude 1_3-4} 3 Dear friends, I had been eagerly planning to write to you about the salvation we all share. But now I find that I must write about something else, urging you to defend the faith that God has entrusted once for all time to his holy people.
I say this because some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches, saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives. The condemnation of such people was recorded long ago, for they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
So this is all I can say: about that-don't argue with me, argue this one with God..

Kobojunkie:
1. Always pay close attention to context when reading so you more clearly understand the message of the writer. Lifting a verse from its context in order to assert a meaning different from that intended by the writer amounts to spewing soundbites.
Surely, you can see that John, in the passage, is saying that it is impossible for one who is born-again to live in sin — darkness— and have the Truth, Jesus Christ, living at the same time inside of one. This goes against popular ideas out there that a person is made free from sin as soon as he/she becomes born-again or confesses to Jesus Christ as a savior. John then goes on to explain that the cleansing of one from his/her sins by God that would follow after a person has become a believer can only take place when one does what is right — lives his life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. For it is when we know the Truth — the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ — that we are then set free from slavery to sin by the Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 36.

2. Last I checked, rebellion is a choice, and so also is stubbornness.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:29am On Jan 25, 2023

Max behave yourself-you know the words coming out of your mouth are foolishness, admit the Word of God is eating you up inside, you can't run from it-you are dreaming the Word of God is at your door within. stop running and allow the Lord to talk to you.
If you think you are saved-then at least ask yourself by whom?
Ask yourself this question: is the Watchtower really a place of worship-or really is it a place of great mockery-against those outside your Church, you don't see us upset every time you write your unbelief's on line-we are here to help you see the scriptures properly.
So is Mum and Dad JW's too-were you brought up under the Watchtower belief's?
All were you forced to believe as a child: and it's the only religion you are afraid to leave-because the Watchtower will force your family friends to disassociate from you, and you will never see your love ones again..I would take the risk, God can do anything through prayer,''especially when God know's you belong to Him.

MaxInDHouse:
Hopeless Churchgoer, go and fetch for your kind!

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