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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:09pm On May 19, 2023*

No one had invited you to be part of any false accusations, you decided to play the detective role yourself.
Max wrote it as plain as it sounds, if you don't understand the word Medium 'then you need to study what it means.
No one is talking about a spirit medium, Mediums sorcerers and divination witchcraft is practice by people who are into the occult's.
Since you are Max's wife: you would say anything to defend your own kind..
Dealing with any type of sorcery is in fact an abomination against God's will.
Mediums are sorcerers, they work on the same lines as God speaks to His people through dreams and visions.
{Joel 2:28} “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions”
And eventually it get's the Job done, your sons and your daughters shall prophesy into the future-this comes from the Spirit of God, through dreams and visions.
Devil worshipers, are known to fast and pray into the spirit realm to get results from demonic activity against people in genial, it is a known fact, witchcraft have been used against people across the globe-jealously is one of the main factors that have caused healthy babies die through birth, through witchcraft many have committed suicide listening to either music of other types of demonic activity.
God warns us to stay away from divination sorcery Mediums that worship after other strange things.
You can lie against the fact Max visited a Medium: and took the Medium's advise: about Joining the Watchtower, Max said he believes what the Medium told him about who the true disciples are.
Medium's are known to lie against the truth.
{Leviticus 19:31} “Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.
Max is classed as unclean, because he decided to visit a Medium, and Max will stay unclean until Max decides to repent and ask the Lord for his forgiveness.
God warns us not to go near them: God knows the dangers it can come against us.
Mediums work on the same principles through demonic host that come to us through dreams and visions.
Why do people see a Medium, to gain access from spiritual host, how do Mediums get their information? by bowing down before their altars, they pray and fast into the spirit realm to get results.
Same method is done in the realm of God-praying and fasting is how people get results from God.
When we pray, there's power.
{Genesis 46:2} God spoke to Israel in visions of the night and said, “Jacob, Jacob.” And he said, “Here I am.”
People who claim they have any type of fellowship with God, do not go to Mediums for advise. Not even Allah would agree with that.

oteneaaron:
I completely get where you're coming from.

But it seems you might have misunderstood what Max said in that post.

Even though I am vehemently against the dogmas and beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses, I will not be party to false accusations.

I only work with Hard Evidence that can be verified.

The "medium" he spoke about was not a spirit medium per se.

He was actually referring to that his post/thread on Nairaland as the "medium" of communication.

I think you should read it again, carefully.

I hope this helps.

Cheers!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:30am On May 19, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Dear brothers and sisters,
Though the GB has ordered us not to engage Apostates due to the way these despicable elements always argue fruitlessly, their intention is to make the audience go astray not to direct whoever listens to them to a specific profitable end.
Though before my baptism as a witness i often had certain doubts regarding the directives from this body, but what suppressed the doubt is the fact that there is no other group that's meeting up with my expectations as per making peace without the use of force, weapons nor casualties.
In the army our goal to make peace largely depends on how far we're able to force the opposition to surrender (drop their weapons) so when i first hard of "soldiers of Christ" i was amazed because Jesus never used force in achieving his goal as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} so i kept wondering "where are these soldiers and what type of weapons are they using to appease their adversaries to surrender?
As a Muslim i always see Christianity as groups of idiots who don't know what they're doing, but when i came in contact with Jehovah's Witnesses i was deeply touched by the way they catch and disarm their enemies, so asked myself "could this be the real soldiers of Christ?" because they will never raise a weapon yet they're conquering millions from different races and tongues under the heavens, and not only that but making their captives fellow soldiers of PEACE.
So my aim is to find a better performing group of so called Christians who can at least achieve 20% of what this group has done so far. But all i see is critics claiming Christians without any specific motive of achieving PEACE.
The Apostates are former members of this group who are bent on discrediting the GB with the aim of making their peace loving followers turn away from following them. OK if one is saying the members following them should disperse please to what other group and for what purpose?
So i'm using this medium to say that i for one am now convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that whatever this GB says is coming from the Prince of Peace himself. They said Apostates are useless and hopeless but then i doubted that idea, now let any Apostate direct, point, show, say, mention any other better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES otherwise.
Let us shun them completely just as the GB has ordered.
See you when all workers of iniquity are gone for good!

You brother Maximus

As I read this: Max seeks Mediums for advice: so I hope this helps you with your inquires, seeking a Medium is not seeking after God, and if Max was Muslim one would think Max would seek after Allah...
Now Max claims he is one of the main attractions in the watchtower, an elder of some sort:
So you will either disregard this page: hoping no one will see it: or you would question Max 'why he seeks after Mediums instead of seeking after Jehovah himself.

oteneaaron:
I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you have any evidence to prove the above statement?

If yes, kindly point me in the right direction.

Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:53am On May 19, 2023*

Aemmyjah:
Sometimes, after much push with some people, you see they are actually suffering from one kind of mystic dementia. How will a medium lead people to Jehovah's witnesses?

Why do they say that, whenever Christendom people are coming to their village, nothing goes wrong, those crusaders even beg them for magical powers to do wonders in their ministry

But when Jehovah's Witnesses want to visit, the demons warn those witch doctors that the most dangerous people are coming and should not be allowed on or they should not listen to them. Some of them get firece and tell the village chiefs to send us back or make the people not to listen

It is obvious you don't have enough knowledge to understand why God the Almighty warned His People Israel to stay away from people involved in any type of witchcraft,
God warns us not to turn to astrology, occult, mediums, divination and sorcery,
Where in fact you have done the opposite-you go to these people for advise seeking wisdom-mediums don't pray to the Almighty God, instead they bow down before their alters-fasting and praying to send demonic host to destroy God's people.
{1KIngs 22:19-23} In scripture God Himself allowed a lying spirit to go out and destroy Ahab" because of Ahab's disobedience against God:
Look what happened to Max: as a Muslim he favored Isis at the time the Christians were slaughtered, Max not knowing the Word of God: Max never came to repentance asking God for forgiveness, and because of lack of knowledge-Max didn't seek after his God Allah, Max asked a witch for directions, Max doesn't know God: nor does he know Allah-instead Max seen a Medium against God's will.
Max's disobedience allowed a Medium to lead Max astray.
But the Jehovah witnesses are known by evidence-they are not God's disciples they claim to be. Jehovah witnesses are people who are always trying to destroy the Word of God.

Aemmyjah:
Sometimes, after much push with some people, you see they are actually suffering from one kind of mystic dementia. How will a medium lead people to Jehovah's witnesses?

How many times have we listen and read interviews of people who were witch doctors?

Some of them get curious and examine us and later come to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

It is written we can't serve two masters, we either love the one and hate the other: In your case you serve them both.

Aemmyjah:
Sometimes, after much push with some people, you see they are actually suffering from one kind of mystic dementia. How will a medium lead people to Jehovah's witnesses?

How many times have we listen and read interviews of people who were witch doctors?

Why do they say that, whenever Christendom people are coming to their village, nothing goes wrong, those crusaders even beg them for magical powers to do wonders in their ministry

But when Jehovah's Witnesses want to visit, the demons warn those witch doctors that the most dangerous people are coming and should not be allowed on or they should not listen to them. Some of them get firece and tell the village chiefs to send us back or make the people not to listen

Some of them get curious and examine us and later come to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Yet, Christendom pastors will boast about how they confronted witch doctors and they died. They don't help evil people to come to know God, everything must die to show that they are ' Man of Gaad'.

What about experiences of how they keep some magical powder on a path they know we'll walk through unawares and we'll be harmed but they are surprised nothing happens

What about the experience where two brothers came to preach to a juju doctor himself and he brought out 4 chairs. The brothers were confused and wondered why he gave attention like a child. Later, in his home, he said he saw 4 people earlier...

Mented Brocab should go see Alagbede (blacksmith) to work on his head

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:02am On May 18, 2023*

(I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity)
Well we realize the heading above has nothing to do with the God we serve-and we know Jehovah witnesses are in a place by themselves in La La Land on another planet: preaching to us about a god that doesn't have any connection to the God we believe and obey:
We believe the Jehovah witnesses are completely brainwashed, Nut's, concerning the bible: But I find they aren't the only ones on here trying to draw God's people away from hearing the truth.

This is written by a group below, who claim they also serve God?
Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life.
As I can see, there are many cult's: claiming they know Christ but rejecting His Word "His power, these are self righteous people who claim they are "I AM's" "cults" twisting the Word of God, drawing millions away from the truth-Max claims the written bible is a lie, and his faithfulness is correct towards Jehovah, these are called CULT'S, they believe they are "I AM" living a sinless life style.
No One is Good "No Not One.
{Romans 3:10-12} As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one; There is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”
If we are sinless then why does God tell us to confess our sins, and come to repentance and forgiveness, if we are sinless.
{1 John 1:8} If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
{Psalm 14:1, Psalm 53:1} The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt; their acts are vile. There is no one who does good.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:30am On May 17, 2023

I am not surprised: sugar daddy and sugar baby are living under the same roof, sharing the same bed and singing melody together while dancing with the devil..

johnw47:
that's because she keeps deleting her accounts, she is crazy like lost false jw mad max.
she does exist though, she is a fatty with dead looking eyes, matches her spirit

she is young woman but not lady, lady would not be friends with puffed up self righteous sugar daddy,
sugar daddy calls her sugar baby, so funny, they queer and crazy as can be

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 12:44am On May 16, 2023

The book you write about, put's all it's focus on how to serve the Watchtower-not about serving Christ: and you are baptized through your organisation, to serve your organisation, Yeah you say you believe in baptism, but what is the point about baptism when you refuse the Holy Spirit.
You don't believe anybody coming to Christ: should be saved: not until they prove themselves as true and faithful servants to the Watchtower. No one will be baptized until they complete the rules and regulations this booklet has in store, this is for you to serve and obey 'laws, commandments, staying under the watchtowers covenant: "as we can see "the Watchtower had screwed everything up, this is not the same Covenant Jesus made with His people,
{Luke 22:10-20} And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.
This is a life given blood-and yet the Jehovah witnesses refuses to give Blood to save lives.
{John 14:6} Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
The Watchtower teaches-Jehovah is coming back to save his people, the Watchtower don't believe Jesus is coming back to save his people.
The Word say's no one will enter into the Kingdom of God, without Jesus.
So it's obvious someone in the Watchtower is dancing with the devil-trying to twist the Word of God-it's common sense, if Jehovah is coming back 'then it's obvious, Jehovah is Jesus.

Sand2022:
I always advise that one should criticize constructively and truthfully. You can't lack the basic understanding of JWs beliefs and criticise them constructively. You will just be attacking a straw man.

JWs believe in Jesus and their lord and savior. They do baptism. That is the basic thing. It is true they require you cover a certain book, but they still baptize. That's the important thing.

It's obvious you just want to force them out the equation even when it doesn't balance.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:36pm On May 15, 2023

There's no evidence to prove the young lady even existed" like most topic's you have come up with 'are just stories.
I am not surprise about you Max: maybe you are already the neighborhood sugar daddy.
If you believe young girls are attracted to you, then it's definitely not 'your looks, and it haven't got anything to do with you teaching, if young girls are attracted to you? "then it's obvious you are using witchcraft to draw them to you, just like how the medium gave you directions that led you to the Watchtower.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ the young woman felt really happy that she don't know how she could express it so my faithless guy it's a welcome development!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 5:12pm On May 14, 2023

Well done: thanks to all the saints who believe in the true gospel.."and may the Lord bless you all..

elated177:
A joyful and glorious Sabbath to all the saints, servants, followers and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah all over the earth.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:59pm On May 14, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
The young woman who started it nicknamed me "Sugar Daddy" for all the things she has heard from me and many have believed that Jehovah's Witnesses surely have what it takes to make real disciples.

Do you even know what a sugar daddy is? someone as old as you-have taken advantage of the opposite sex, which in many cases sugar daddy's target young girls, supplying their needs, in many cases drugs, in exchange for sex.
So you don't mind being called a sugar daddy Max: There isn't much difference between a sugar daddy and a child molester, they both line up with each other.
Max: that young lady was condemning you: she would have known the true meaning of sugar daddy-she used it against you. It's nothing to brag about Max: in the future Max: before feeling proud about yourself: look up the words and find out their meaning's before advertising it on line.
And we all realize it's been advertised all over the world, what they say about the Watchtower-how many of them have been acting as sugar daddy's 'exchanging sweets for sex, many Jehovah witnesses are involved with young children..

MaxInDHouse:
It's you who needs to figure out how many people on this forum has accepted your message if truly you've been relevant!

Max: I am not here trying to get brownie points {a reward from anybody: I am here to help you read and understand the truth: and if anybody, either reads or leaves a comment or a like or two, these are people who already have enough knowledge and understanding the truth will always set you free..

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ this thread alone has spoken in volumes!

The young woman who started it nicknamed me "Sugar Daddy" for all the things she has heard from me and many have believed that Jehovah's Witnesses surely have what it takes to make real disciples.

It's you who needs to figure out how many people on this forum has accepted your message if truly you've been relevant!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:14am On May 13, 2023*

So Max is claiming the Word of God is a lie, and the true disciples who obey Jehovah are witnesses.
So Max: how do you expect anybody to take you seriously if you refuse to acknowledge the Word of God.
Max: remember 'where you had gained your information from, you seeked after a Medium, and through his/her's understanding you were led to the Watchtower.
So It's quite understandable why you ignore His covenant His Law and His Commandments, and why you seek after other resources to gain somewhat access unto the underworld.
God warns us not to go to mediums nor go and see anybody who practices witchcraft, it is a abomination against God-especially when one chooses to walk in the opposite direction, ignoring His Word.

MaxInDHouse:
In the first century many often feel happy when they hear a disciple of Jesus Christ telling them the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom but at the mention of the name "Jesus" they will turn away.
WHY?

People don't turn away because Jesus Name is mentioned, they turn away because people are ignoring the truth, Christ said don't force people to believe. So it's proof they turn away not because of Christ-it's because people like the Jehovah witnesses are known as bullies, forcing people to believe in a doctrine that isn't scriptural. And we don't forget why the Jehovah witnesses have lied about the coming of Christ and the end of world theories.

MaxInDHouse:
In the first century many often feel happy when they hear a disciple of Jesus Christ telling them the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom but at the mention of the name "Jesus" they will turn away.
WHY?
Because their religious leaders have told them lots of lies and malicious things about Jesus of Nazareth! John 9:22; Act 4:18; Act 5:28
The same thing happens to Jesus' true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) today {John 15:18} we have this experience always as they listen to our heartwarming message they're refreshed but at the mention of the group name they turn away. We know why!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 11:22pm On May 12, 2023

Your argument is not with me, your argument is with God...There's only One who has No sin-Jesus Christ.
And if you believe writing down the scriptures is twisting the Word of God then you need to take this up with God Himself.
Ask God personally about these questions you need Him to explain them for you.
We are all born into sin: obviously you don't understand sin comes in ways you don't even know you are sinning.
{1 john 5:17} All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.
We are all born sinners. From the moment we enter this world until our final breath, we have a sinful nature.
It does not matter whether one is a child or an adult, a "good" person or a "bad" one, all of us are sinners.
To sin is to fall short of God's perfect standards or to go against His laws.
All humans have a natural tendency to go against the things of God, as is made obvious in something as small as our natural tendency toward selfishness.
Due to our sin, we are all separated from God and deserving of His punishment {Romans 3:23; 6:23; Ephesians 2:1–5} This is a good reason why your comrade elete 177 finds it easy to work deceit against anybody outside your organisation. "elete177 is a sinner Just like you and I. We all do evil and say evil things against each other-we all fall short of the glory of God.

Kobojunkiee:
You folks seem so good at twisting the words of Paul, the one whose views seem to be at the very foundation of your belief, in order to build for yourselves excuses and reasons why you should not do as Jesus Christ says, aren't you?

What Paul wrote in Romans 3 was not in reference to all humans but instead to all the evil people, fools who reject God. This you can easily discover by researching the source of his many statements which are culled from various places in scripture.

■Beginning in Romans 3 vs 10 - 18, Paul quotes from various parts of scripture in his attempt to explain to his brethren that they were in fact the wicked and evil generation to the destroyed by God. Yes, at that point in time, God's plan was to destroy the rest of Israel — the Nation of Judah aka the Jews— and that plan was heralded by the coming of Jesus Christ. Below, we see that what Paul wrote in that passage was of the evil people who were against God.

■ Romans 3 vs 10 - 12 quotes Psalm 53 where David writes about the evil people who do terrible things.
The above passage clearly says that this prophecy was said of the evil people aka the fools who convinced themselves that God does not exist. You know this from reading verse 4 where God highlights the way evil people treat His people.
■ Romans 3 vs 13 a Paul references David's prayer against his enemies found in Psalm 5

■ Romans 3 vs 13 b quotes from Psalm 140 where David prays to God regarding the evil people

■ Romans 13 vs 15 quotes from Proverbs 1 which is a warning against evil people

■ Romans 13 vs 16 - 17 references Isaiah's writing on the state of the evil people, whose sins separate them from God

■ Romans 13 vs 18 references Psalm 18 where David writes of the evil people and the workings of their minds.

As you can see, every single passage of Scripture that was quoted by Paul in that context was written in reference to people who do evil — the unrighteous. And of course, there are none righteous among the evil people for they have all sinned.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 1:37am On May 11, 2023

elated177:
The undisputed errand baby witch, cab, is still here wailing and lamenting bitterly and profusely. Lol! Cab, you and your colleagues go wail and lament tire for here. A scum of Satan and demons like you, cab, can't oppose my righteous walk. Enemy of righteousness.

This is coming from a person who believes working deceit against another man, is an sinless act of God.
Does elated177 even know the scriptures:
{Psalm 101:7} He who work deceit shall not dwell within my House, he who tells lies shall not continual in My presents.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:34am On May 11, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
Do you remember what gave birth to this thread?

{I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity}
This thread has nothing to do with God, matter of fact it's heading is against God

MaxInDHouse:
Do you remember what gave birth to this thread? Well it was the word of my God that i preached to a young lady named "Rozz" she purposely opened this thread because of me.

Are you listening to your own words, Max: you are preaching your God: your god is not the God written in the bible.

MaxInDHouse:
Many have said the above about my comments but when i give the credit to God's organization (Jehovah's Witnesses) they turned to rage saying they don't want to hear that group name.

If you won the heart's of many people through preaching God's Word "then why are many turning away from you as soon as you mention "Jehovah witnesses. Is this not enough evidence to prove you and your organisation don't preach the Word of God, that even comes close to recognizing any truth, your god is "Not the same God we have accepted-learn't and understood.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you remember what gave birth to this thread?

Well it was the word of my God that i preached to a young lady named "Rozz" she purposely opened this thread because of me.
She first opened a thread and attached my profile name "Maximus69" but when i objected she started this

Many have said the above about my comments but when i give the credit to God's organization (Jehovah's Witnesses) they turned to rage saying they don't want to hear that group name.

So i know how my post is disturbing you keep deceiving yourself simply because you don't want to subject yourself to God's organization!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 5:55am On May 10, 2023

Max had never preached the Word of God to us, but anybody who is convinced about joining the Watchtower 'do yourselves a favor don't be like him. If you truly believe you are christian, then at least preach the Word of God...

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 5:47am On May 10, 2023

This is why we are here, to share each others opinions, It will be a change to see and read you preaching the Word of God.
Now, we are not interested in the Jehovah witnesses sermon, we are more focused upon the Word of God, so anytime you feel like preaching God's Word, we are here to read your views.
So if you expect us to listen: speak bible knowledge, so we can all relate together understanding God's Word.

cornelboy:
You're entitled to your opinions 👍🏾

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:44am On May 05, 2023

So why do you believe your faith is above everybody else, when in fact they also have faith.
Do you realize the Watchtower retrieves most of their studies from the Catholic Church' do you know' Pope Francis believes all religious and non religious beliefs worship the same God. Pope Francis also claims Jesus is not the only way into God's Kingdom.
Max you also refuse to believe in Jesus we are saved: now we realize that any bible believing Christian knows what Pope Francis believes is untrue. In Jesus we are saved 'He is the only way to the Father.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm OK with my faith!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 4:19am On May 03, 2023*

eleted177 if I could believe you have any part knowing God, I would say so, but sadly your attitude towards others who love the Lord, is totally disgusting. this is your fruit eleted177, "meet your father {John 8:44}

elated177:
The undisputed errand baby witch, cab, is still here wailing and lamenting bitterly and profusely. Lol! Cab, you and your colleagues go wail and lament tire for here.

A scum of Satan and demons like you, cab, can't oppose my righteous walk. Enemy of righteousness.

We, elated177 and the other saints, servants, followers and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah, will continue to seek and walk in perfection with all our souls, all our hearts, all our minds and all our strength.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

{Matthew 7:15-16} “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
You will know them by their fruits
{1 Peter 2:22} who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth;
Are you for real-since I have been on this page, I find to much deceit pouring out of your mouth eleted177, and you still believe you are sinless.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:36am On May 03, 2023*

Your faith means nothing to the world: nor to those who truly seek after the Kingdom of God.
{Revelation 21:1}
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
{2 Peter 3:7}
But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
This is what's going to happen to the earth, now we realize the Watchtower had promised you a new earth, "since you don't believe our spirit man enters into the presents of God, I suppose your spirit man stays in the grave with your ancestors that passed-until the coming of Jehovah.
Your faith in Jehovah won't save you Max, the world as we know it will end-as the Lord said: it will burn, repent Max: study the Word of God, wake up and stop listening to those unfaithful none believing bible scholars you put all your trust in.
Max: test everything, open up the Bible, learn the scriptures, and study the Word of God-and seek upon Jesus to save you from what is predicted 'is coming to pass.
{2 Peter 3:10}
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.
Read the scriptures Max:
{Malachi 4:1}
“For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble. The day that is coming shall set them ablaze, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.
{2 Peter 3:1-18}
This is now the second letter that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, ...
{Luke 12:49}
“I came to cast fire on the earth, and would that it were already kindled!
{2 Peter 3:12}
Waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn!
{2 Peter 3:13}
But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
This is the Word of God Max: read it and take some notes. It will save your life, don't walk on that same path as your ancestors, they refused God from the beginning.
{Isaiah 24:1-23}
Behold, the Lord will empty the earth and make it desolate, and he will twist its surface and scatter its inhabitants. And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the slave, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the creditor, so with the debtor. The earth shall be utterly empty and utterly plundered; for the Lord has spoken this word. The earth mourns and withers; the world languishes and withers; the highest people of the earth languish. The earth lies defiled under its inhabitants; for they have transgressed the laws, violated the statutes, broken the everlasting covenant. ..
Max: you said it yourself, you refuse to believe Christ can save you, you have already broken the Covenant.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm OK with my faith!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:40pm On Apr 29, 2023

You did say: it is very unlikely that Christ can save you: so it's quite obvious why you are so confused when recognizing your god.
Jehovah god can't save you-God gave all His authority to His only begotten Son Jesus Christ.
Don't forget Max: you seeked after a medium: you didn't seek after God" it was a medium who told you which god you should worship.
Medium's Max seek after demonic activity, they don't seek after God Almighty. I advise you to repent ask the Lord to forgive you from your stupidity.

MaxInDHouse:
The true God will ensure peace among his own worshipers {Micah 4:1-3} as all worshipers will walk each in the name of their God! Micah 4:5

So there's no need calling names now! Matthew 10:25

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:27pm On Apr 29, 2023

The Jehovah witnesses group emerged from the Bible Student movement founded in the late 1870s by Charles Taze Russell, who also co-founded Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society in 1881 to organize and print the movement's publications.
A leadership dispute after Russell's death resulted in several groups breaking away, with Joseph Franklin Rutherford retaining control of the Watch Tower Society and its properties.
Rutherford made significant organizational and doctrinal changes,
including adoption of the name Jehovah's witnesses[en 1] in 1931 to distinguish them from other Bible Student groups and symbolize a break with the legacy of Russell's traditions.
So we can see: it was Rutherford who came up with the name Jehovah witnesses, so obviously God didn't call them to be Jehovah witnesses, Rutherford called them by this name.
In 1870, Charles Taze Russell and others formed a group in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to study the Bible.
During the course of his ministry,[color=#990000] Russell disputed many beliefs of mainstream Christianity including immortality of the soul, hellfire, predestination, the fleshly return of Jesus Christ, the Trinity, and the burning up of the world.[/color]
By looking at this Russell had done some serous damage, "Russell" had decided to change the the Word of God, because he refused to believe in God's Word, justifying himself to re write his own manuscripts.
In 1876, Russell met Nelson H. Barbour. Later that year they jointly produced the book Three Worlds, which combined restitutionist views with end time prophecy.
The book taught that God's dealings with humanity were divided dispensationally, each ending with a "harvest," that Christ had returned as an invisible spirit being in 1874 inaugurating the "harvest of the Gospel age", and that 1914 would mark the end of a 2,520-year period called "the Gentile Times", at which time world society would be replaced by the full establishment of God's kingdom on earth.
By looking at this: we can see why Russell refused to believe the burning up of the world: where in fact is scriptural. Russell brain washed his followers to believe their works and finances will surely put them in a position to be granted a new earth with the Lord at His coming. So it's quite obvious: to have some what understanding why the Watchtower are brain washed: they obviously are running over the manuscripts their ancestors left behind.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:22am On Apr 29, 2023

We also know your unknown god {John 8:44}

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Our God is unknown to you but we know our God!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:52am On Apr 28, 2023

We worship the God we know-you worship the unknown God..

MaxInDHouse:
Thank you!
This is exactly what i expected from all those that keeps on arguing against the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses.
So since you people aren't worshiping the same God as we do there's no need arguing go and worship yours while we worship ours!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab: 2:01am On Apr 28, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

At least there are thousands of religionists on this forum that are from different sects all of them claiming denominations under one umbrella yet with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines leading to abusive speeches and curses while you're all calling yourselves Christians.

So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ i wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus!

Now if Max didn't write this: I suppose many would believe you that the Jehovah witnesses don't deny Christ. As soon as you refuse Christ as our Lord and savor- and calling it a blind belief you have denied Christ.

Sand2022:
JWs see Jesus as a son of God,

There is no where in the bible where we read Jesus is "Just" a son of God-No Jesus is "THE" Son of God, NOT A SON.
He is not one of the angels, nor is He Lucifer's brother.
{1 John 5} Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands.
It say's God Love's His Child-Jesus is "THE" Son of God.

Sand2022:
What should be paramount is that we all worship the same God. Unless God directly tells you that your position is correct, don't feel you are above others in God's sight. No one has monopoly over truth.

I will say it again "As soon as you refuse Christ as our Lord and savor- and calling it a blind belief you have denied Christ.
We obviously don't worship the same God-so to answer your misunderstanding of the Word of God-Yes God does show us in Word: who's saved: One must be Born again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God.
{Matthew 28:19} “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.”
Do the JW believe in baptism? Baptism is a requirement for being considered a member of Jehovah's Witnesses-after reading some documents on line about the Watchtower: it is now said: the Jehovah witnesses refuse to be baptized in the Holy Spirit, but rather be baptized under the Watchtower organisation "So by Max's comment, it is very unlikely you are saved in the Name of Jesus Christ.

Sand2022:
Jehovah's witnesses don't refuse Christ. Where did you get that from? If you want to criticize, do so constructively, don't import lies just to discredit them. Different denomination with there differing understanding of God word.

JWs see Jesus as a son of God, and that he is not equal to God. Although majority of scholars would say Jesus and God are the same, there is a strong argument against that, and I am yet to see any scholar who has settled this arguments without any plausible objection.

What should be paramount is that we all worship the same God. Unless God directly tells you that your position is correct, don't feel you are above others in God's sight. No one has monopoly over truth.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:14am On Apr 27, 2023*

it's quite obvious we don't worship the same God: if Jehovah witnesses knew who there god is, they wouldn't be arguing over stupidity.
You shall not temp the Lord your God for Him only you shall serve.
There's only One God, One Lord and One Holy Spirit-12 Apostles-were men filled with the Holy Spirit-led by God to write the scriptures that supports God existence.
Shamefully the Watchtower does not agree that the bible is God's Word.which proves they worship another: through their mediums and witchcraft and other spiritual resources they gain access to destroy the truth that was written about God and who God really is.
Dancing with the devil {John 8:44} is the Watchtowers calling.

MaxInDHouse:
Please ask him to tell you how any sane human can go on supporting all the enemies of a group who often claim the group belongs to Satan but when asked:
"Do you worship the same God as that group?"

Achorladey couldn't respond YES or NO yet he's always in support of all those calling JW org Satan's organization even when those ones publicly declared they're not worshiping the same God with JWs

Ever since that day i told him straightforward that he is the complete definition of insanity so i keep ignoring him like any sane individual will avoid a madman!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 9:35pm On Apr 16, 2023

Atheist are those who would go out of their way to seek out mediums Witchcraft for some sort of evidence that Jehovah witnesses are true followers of Christ:
Atheist: are not like achorladey: one who would go out of their way to preach the Gospel.
Atheist are people who don't believe Christ is our Savor.

Esortigress:
Is it true you are now an atheist?

Christianity Etc › Re: Let No One Deceive You: You Can Live Sin-free Life. by brocab: 9:15pm On Apr 16, 2023

Let not anybody who thinks they are sinless deceive you: always obey the Word of God:
{Romans 3:10-12} No one is good, no, not one
as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.
"So if God say's No one is good, No not one! Then obviously it is impossible to live a life style without sin in our lives..
{Romans 3:23-24} for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Don't be deceived by people who think by Grace they don't need to repent or ask for forgiveness after they become Born Again: The Word of God tells us Christians we must confess our sins:
{1 John 1:9} If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John is talking to Christians: telling Christians they must confess their sins daily: repenting and asking the Lord for our forgiveness:
{1 Corinthians 15:31} The apostle Paul said that we die daily continuing to repent of our old habits and sins that crop back up at times,and are renewed daily, striving to follow Jesus' sinless example {2 Corinthians 4:16} For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.
Repentance is not an ethereal concept that no one can fully grasp. In its most basic sense, it means to change. We are to change our minds, change our way of thinking, change our behavior, change our priorities, change our lives.
But always be aware: many will come in the Name of Jesus: {1 Timothy 6:3-5} If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.
{Matthew 7:15-16} “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:51am On Apr 14, 2023

We have got to laugh: about how our testimonies can actually turn everything against us 'especially when we are looking for clarity.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:44pm On Apr 11, 2023*

You keep on writing them: and we will keep on reading them, Max you are making a mockery out from under your organisation. You have just provided us information that the Watchtower you obey and bow down too, actually deal through other resources to gain access into the supernatural that allows the Watchtower to join the prince of darkness to run he's course through the hearts, minds, and souls of every member that belongs to the organisation you stand by.
You have written it down yourself_you had visited a {Medium Witchcraft} to gain access to collect information that helped you find other resources that actually lines up with your Muslim belief's.
Both believe out of context 'not the Word of God-both organisations run side by side with each other and still believe they are God's chosen. {John 8:44}

MaxInDHouse:
Continue dancing around my comments!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:30am On Apr 11, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
Dear brothers and sisters,
As a Muslim i always see Christianity as groups of idiots who don't know what they're doing, but when i came in contact with Jehovah's Witnesses i was deeply touched by the way they catch and disarm their enemies, so asked myself "could this be the real soldiers of Christ?

Below: A change of heart from Max, could this mean he now believes Jehovah witnesses are no longer the real soldiers for Christ?

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!
So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ

But in the mean time Max admits he is a murder from the beginning-murdering and slaughtering Christians before and after he joined ISIS

MaxInDHouse:
So i'm using this medium to say that i for one am now convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that whatever this GB says is coming from the Prince of Peace himself.

Now we all know what mediums are: God warns in the Bible against turning to astrology, the occult, mediums, divination and sorcery, witchcraft / witches / warlocks, fortune-telling and necromancy, these are all Satan’s counterfeits to holy spirituality.
Max you say: you visited a Medium to convince you Jehovah witnesses are the true followers of Christ?
Do you know: God takes witchcraft very seriously. The penalty for practicing witchcraft under the Mosaic Law was death {Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 20:27} {Leviticus 19:31}
“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:54pm On Apr 10, 2023*

According to you Max 'Jehovah witnesses are not servants for Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!
So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ

So it's no good arguing about it: you have already written down 'where your heart belongs.

MaxInDHouse:
Just as the religious people in Jesus' days said he refuse the word of God!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:55am On Apr 10, 2023

Who are you trying to convince: "St Max" If there is any truth in this: people outside your organisation would agree, Funny.. If you didn't refuse the Word of God so much, we wouldn't be having this conversion.

MaxInDHouse:
Achorladey is presently an atheist!

Just go through all his posts and try to figure out any meaningful comment where he says a word about his faith in God. All he does is discouraging anyone having real faith he nightmare is JWs because this group gathers faithful people throughout the world that's why he's attacking the group.
So he wants everyone to remain in confusion as that calms his nerve making feel there's no need to worship any God since all of them are confused with contradicting teachings but for JWs to stand out and gathering faithful people he feels really bad that this group is judging him!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:40am On Apr 10, 2023*

I am surprised: you only found Jehovah written in the King James bible only 7 times?
I am surprised: the Watchtower had refused God's Word-God said: don't add or remove from the Word of God.
I am surprised: that the most important doctrine a religion can hold to regards the God they promote for worship. It is quite shocking that until the 1950's, Witnesses were told Jesus was a god to worship and pray to, along with Jehovah, his made them polytheistic. In 1953 the worship of Jesus became a disfellowshipping offence.
I am surprise about whom the Watchtower thinks about the Resurrection. "the number of times the Governing Body have changed which groups of people are worthy of a resurrection makes mockery of any claims to what they write as being truth.
I am surprised: about the Watchtowers Baptism.
There has been an ongoing tightening of the procedure to become a Jehovah's Witness. Most disturbing was the change in 1985, after which a Witness no longer gets baptized in the "name of the ... Holy Spirit", but rather to God's "spirit directed organization"
I am surprised: from the 1800,1914,1925,1935,1975, were from the changing elders arrangement highlights the way Witnesses are manipulated to fall in line with statements that such changes have come from Jehovah. When these arrangements fail, it shows Jehovah was not involved at all.
I am surprised: For many decades it was taught that selection of the 144,000 was completed in 1935. After this announcement the number of memorial partakers steadily declined. This was presented as proof that the end would be soon.
In 2007, an admission appeared that there was no basis for saying the choosing of the Anointed closed in 1935. In the years since 2007 the number of partakers has started to rise again. It is interesting that errors in Watchtower doctrine can dictate whether a follower believes they have been Anointed by Jesus.
I AM NOT SURPRISED YOUR ORGANISATION PRACTICES ALL THE ABOVE: {JOHN 8:44} IS YOUR TRUE CALLING.

Esortigress:
I'm surprised he said he can't find Jehovah in the bible. Na WA ooo

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