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Repent Max: ask the Lord to forgive your sinful nature: the Lord said: the dead know nothing-come to Christ and your knowledge will increase. Don't listen to cultist Watchtower, they are not interested in your well being-they just need your money. Max you can be free from playing the fool, come and join us-become a born again, you won't regret it. Christ has promised He looks after His own and teach us all things. MaxInDHouse: |
{1 John 1:8} If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. {1 Samuel 15:23} For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. elated177: |
I am not asking you to learn from anybody-but instead of showing your aggressive nature towards others on line, try learning it from the scriptures. {1 Timothy 6:3-5} If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself I only asked you a simple question, what was your religion? If you were truly a believer 'you wouldn't be hiding your true identity away from others in Christ,, you obviously believe in the Sabbath: but you don't use scripture that backs up the Sabbath. And since the Sabbath was a rest and thankful day, not a going to Church day-not carrying your bed day, then we must ask why did Jesus make a point by meeting His disciples on the first day of the week.{Revelation 1:10} In Christ there is no special day: everyday is a good time to remember Christ and thanking Him. repenting and asking Him for His forgiveness, confessing our sinful nature to Him. {1 John 1:8} If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. elated177: |
O please tell us, I am sure we would love to hear it coming from a donkeys mouth, please tell us the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit aren't One.. The meaning of Trinity is written in the bible, the word Trinity is not, the meaning to Jehovah is written in the bible, the word Jehovah is not. 5 times in the KJ's, no other bible around the globe is found. So obviously we have Spirit filled people have not written either names, Does this mean they are unscriptural-not the meanings to them, but the word itself is unscriptural. MaxInDHouse: |
Other then you using the Judaism Jewish language, it doesn't really tell us your beliefs. |
You must be part of the secret society-you must find it difficult sharing. Are we not all here learning from each other? All maybe you feel you have all the answers-and learning from someone other then yourself, would break your rules. elated177: |
Neither is the name Jehovah written in other bibles-so obviously this is not scriptural either, it's a false doctrine. So now you found out more truth.. cornelboy: |
You another one who has the page for themselves, I have listened to Joseph Prince I have never heard him teach on repentance. jiggaz: |
What religion are you, if you don't mind me asking? elated177: |
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You must be proud you have your own page.. |
Is this now the end of the JW's era, it just shows it's the Word of God that always comes in first.. No other doctrine can out wit the truth: Many have tried: but never succeed.. |
{ Ecclesiastes 9:5-6} For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished; Nevermore will they have a share In anything done under the sun. Just reading this verse: show's the people who claim they saw Mary: this is not Mary: it's a masquerading spirit transforming themselves into a angel of light. So the world will be deceived. for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. {Corinthians 11:13-15} Deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. Once we die, we don't come back-we are finished. I have heard over the years-many claim they see their dead in dreams and visions, many say their dead are guiding them keeping watch over them, if the dead know nothing after they are gone:, just as the scriptures tells us: then these are obviously demonic masquerading spirits, leading us further away from God. How about this: people say statues move, they bleed, they drop tears, the eye's move, and yet statues are made of clay, not living; these are demonic spirits drawing people away from the living truth. { Mark 12:27} He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. You are therefore greatly mistaken.” We don't war against fresh and blood-but against the principalities against the demons of this world. |
It just shows how many believers actually read their bibles: Pastors have been deceiving them for decades: any body who claims they a blessed through tithing are lairs: deceitful workers.. Tithing began with the Israelite's, after they were led out of Egypt, through Moses and Aaron God made a Covenant with the Levites: Jews. This is the Covenant God made with them: from top to bottom they had to shave their bodies; purified before they can stand before the Lord. We don't hear any Pastor in this day and age: claiming what type of Covenant God made with them to collect tithes. "What were he conditions the Levi priesthood had to be between 25 to 50 years old; once 50 they couldn't collect tithes or do any work in the Tabernacle. No land, no homes, tithing was their only income to support their families, rent homes, 'land etc-plus at least 80% of the tithes were for the widow's the fatherless, and the strangers. Tithers say they made a vow to God to pay tithes, this is obviously the will of man, no-one mentions it's God's will. what is God's Law in the scriptures-cloth the Poor, feed the hungry, etc.. {2 Corinthians 11:13-15} For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. This is witchcraft: disobedience to God is sin, they are making somewhat covenants with deceitful pastors, ''we don't make Covenants with men-we are under the Covenant Jesus made with His people. we Gentiles are not under the old Covenant Law. {Ezek 8:1-18} shows a little light on the subject: if Pastors are claiming the tithing Law's continual from Aaron and the Levi priesthood, then they must be under the same spirit idolizing to the sun god. 'deceitful workers 'who serve greed and mammon just like the Levi priesthood had served.. Gentiles are not the 11 tribes of Israel: not even back then the Gentiles could leave any gift in Jewish temples. paxonel: |
Because it's tax free.. SUPERPACK: |
{Proverbs 22:16} He who oppresses the poor to increase his riches, And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty. This argument has been going on for a decade, it seems no-one is reading their bibles-and if the are' they have skipped {Malachi 3:10} Other then this verse-there's no other verse in the bible, that actually say's we will be blessed through tithing and keep us out of a sick bed? "No other verse.. paxonel: |
No knowledge of the scriptures: I don't see them any other way: johnw47: |
Admit you were wrong, no one is against you Janosky, we are all here to learn and I was happy to be at service to support you to see and understand the scriptures. about {1 Samuel 16:6-13} This is what we are all here for: learn.. You can believe another doctrine if you wish, but the bottom line is' we all have the written Word of God, but as usual people from all walks of life have tried to destroy God's Word, some like yourself try using the dictionary, trying to confuse and twist the Word of God, "sound's like? finding ways to turn the scriptures in other directions. The bible is actually written so a young child of God can understand the scriptures, it's so simple especially when we know we have the Holy Spirit teaching us. Just the way the lord said He will. It's those people who refuse to study the scriptures that seem to backslide-people may think they have it all together-but we know them by their fruit, their walk with God is almost nil. It's easy to slip backwards; especially when people who just sit around in Churches, temples etc,, they don't read their bibles-expecting Elders or Pastor to lead them, these are candidates who run after other doctrines. {1 Timothy 4:1} Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demon {1 Timothy 6:3-5} If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself. We have chosen to withdraw ourselves from your doctrine-and this sounds more like your arguments you have with us, full of pride, knowing nothing, but you are obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions. this is the Watchtower against God. Just be honest: it doesn't matter how much you try, to rip the Word of God apart-the Word of God will always come back bouncing. Janosky: |
We are dealing with a child: Janosky is a teenaged kid. Max also: how will they ever understand the truth about anything: looking by their fruit these suckers a lost goats. johnw47: |
So this has set you free: so finely we have come into agreement. I wouldn't want the world to think anything other then the truth about how old you really are Janosky. Now that wouldn't be nice-now would it. Janosky: |
And where do you make these tree's? So if someone from the Watchtower wanted you to make a special tree, you could make one. birchcity: |
Janosky:I rest my case: this is proof Janosky don't study the scriptures. do you read anywhere where Samuel prophesies about Eliab, "NO" I read Samuel "THOUGHT" Elisb may have been the One.. Obviously you have no idea, even God knows our thoughts. But you don't serve our God Lord and savior. You serve another.. You haven't got the slightest idea how to bring yourself admitting you are wrong..pride always gets in your way: when you are trying so hard to confuse the Word of God: it say's it 'as it's written. If a child of God can read, then the child would understand to read the hole chapter, it's so simple to understand: Samuel "thought" that Eliab could be anointed and be the future king because Eliab was of strong structure. We can see-Samuel "thought" as a man, he was looking on the outside appearance, not what was in this man's heart. So the Lord reminded Samuel and said: don't look at his appearance nor his height, look at his heart. Jesse: last youngest son David was brought up from the fields to be anointed by God: David was chosen to be king over Israel. You are wasting your time trying the twist words: future means how it's written: it doesn't mean any other word: it must be hard for a JW to admit you are wrong, {1 Samuel 16:13-14} So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon David. Samuel then went to Ramah. Now the Spirit of the Lord had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord tormented him. Janosky:You obviously left this one out of your argument: 1) to say, speak, utter 1a) (Qal) to say, to answer, to say in one's heart, to think, to think 'in the English Language is another term used for thought.. Janosky: |
This is what you need to be doing Janosky look at the scriptures, don't just stop at two verses-read the hole chapter: this way you will get a better picture how it's written. Samuel wasn't prophesying into the future, He was sent by God to bless the new future King. You are looking to far a head of yourself, you think Samuel is now a false prophet because a "thought came to Samuel's mind: the Lord heard Samuel, and said to him, Eliab is not the one. So Samuel continualed to search for the one the Lord had chosen. We all have had these thought's about somebody-if we haven't heard it from somebody else, we may end up finding out the hard way about people we have thought about. {Samuel 16:6-12} 6 When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and "thought, “Surely the Lord’s anointed stands here before the Lord.” Samuel wasn't prophesying out loud, claiming Eliab was the future King. It's Just a "thought' that came into Samuel's mind: and the Lord heard Samuel, and answered him. We all think everyday: without speaking it into existence: 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” 8 Then Jesse called Abinadab and had him pass in front of Samuel. But Samuel said, “The Lord has not chosen this one either.” 9 Jesse then had Shammah pass by, but Samuel said, “Nor has the Lord chosen this one.” 10 Jesse had seven of his sons pass before Samuel, but Samuel said to him, “The Lord has not chosen these.” 11 So he asked Jesse, “Are these all the sons you have?” “There is still the youngest,” Jesse answered. “He is tending the sheep.” Samuel said, “Send for him; we will not sit down until he arrives.” 12 So he sent for him and had him brought in. He was glowing with health and had a fine appearance and handsome features. Then the Lord said, “Rise and anoint him; this is the one.” So where do you get Samuel falsely prophesying from? what because he had a "thought he was just thinking" that maybe Eliab may have been the one because of his appearance and his height: But Samuel was directed by the Lord to anoint the youngest and the smallest 'David to be King of Israel. This is not prophesying into the future, Samuel was there with the Lord directing him to anoint the future King.. Janosky: |
The truth is killing you. The only thing you retrieve from your parents is punishment a smack around your legs. Not even your crying out does you any good. If your parents knew you are bagging the Word of God: they will be forced by the elders to disown you. Janosky: |
Anybody who prophesy's and it doesn't come to past are false prophets. None of the verses you have written down: make any sense. Now I am reading {1 Samuel 16:6-7} And this is what it say's: 6 When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and thought, “Surely the Lord’s anointed stands here before the Lord.” This is not prophesying-Samuel is guessing by his outside appearance about Eliab, just as God had pointed it out 'to Samuel, obviously it's just as the scripture explains. 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” This is not prophesying: people in genial always look at the outside appearance, judging people. Eventually by their fruit we will know them. It seems every verse you bring to this forum, none of them line up with the topic, you throw any random verses back to sender. So now you are claiming Jesus to be a false prophet? {Matthew 26:31-35, 59} did happen, Jesus told Peter he will deny Jesus three times, and Peter did just as the Lord describe he will, and the night Jesus was arrested, the disciples ran away, Just the way Jesus said: they will. 59 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death. So the Pharisees were looking to catch Jesus out: and these are known as false prophesies to you. ![]() {1 Samuel 3:19-21} The Lord was with Samuel as he grew up, and he let none of Samuel’s words fall to the ground. And all Israel from Dan to Beersheba recognized that Samuel was attested as a prophet of the Lord. The Lord continued to appear at Shiloh, and there he revealed himself to Samuel through his word. How is it, you call Samuel a false prophet? When in fact the Lord had been with Samuel all his days: not allowing Samuel's words drop to the ground-Samuel was recognized by Dan to Beersheba. Janosky you may never believe the truth about Christ? " You may never experience the Lord speaking through you-but when God speaks through man to His People it's usually prophesying, But the times when the Watchtower prophesied we know it wasn't from the Lord, the end of the world didn't happen. "Not yet.. Janosky: |
The Word of God say's: how to recognize a false prophet; when the prophesy doesn't come true, so we all know about the false prophesies the Watchtower had giving over the years. joyandfaith: |
I always find it funny when I hear certain religious groups claiming they are the one true Church-Just like the Watchtower-while the rest are just wasting time and effort... As we can see-some one is confused, preaching the gospel that Jesus Himself is preferring too, isn't the same as preaching from the watchtowers magazines, two different gospels. And of course you believe Jesus is the Arc Angel Michael. Again two different gospels. Really do you honestly believe-Jesus told you to preach His gospel, that not even you, believe? You may not celebrate holidays-nor celebrate birthdays, as others do. You have separated your children away from other children, lack of communications without choice-etc. What your not understanding is, fellowship brings people together from all walks of life-learning times, mealtimes-social times, playtimes, work times, God times, prayer times, bad times, good times. We are made in God's image-we need God-God uses us, like People need people. Christ gave us a commandment to love one another-seeing a child, a wife or even a husband giving or receiving, a gift, a hug, maybe a few words to say I love you. You may even receive it from a friend, a unsaved neighbour, Or maybe" you still received mail from a long lost friend, you once knew.. Where their is Love, the present of God works all in all. Its must be hard for you, to see your love ones missing out on these special events. It must be hard for you to see your child looking through a window watching other children play. It must be hard for you to lock your children away from family-friends they once knew. It must be hard for you to hear your children crying every night before they sleep. It must be hard for you to see your children frightened and lonely. It must be hard for you to see your child being bullied at school. It must be hard for you to see your child not celebrating birthdays-nor receiving gifts from you. It must be hard for you to turn your back' when your child, wife, husband needs you most. It must be hard for you-to read Colossians 2:16 "Let no-man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or inspect of a Holyday or of a new moon or of a Sabbath day. It must be hard for you to accept When Jesus Himself was born, shepherds arrived, later at the house wise men gave free gifts to Jesus and His family WHILE YOUR OWN CHILD RECEIVES NONE. Is this the gospel you want people to discover, separating yourselves from your own nesting's, away from your children, families and friends, you once knew? |
You are looking at these verses with a fleshly mind: These verses are talking about our natural body: our flesh will die, after we die we know nothing. it's not talking about our spirit man.. {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} 7 Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do. 8 Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil. 9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun—all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun. 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. This is evident's God is preferring to our flesh' not our spirit man. From dust we came, and dust we shall return. pretty simple to understand: God is talking about our flesh, after we die-the dead know nothing, the body has no hate, no love, no jealousy, no wisdom nor knowledge left in them: Then we need to ask ourselves where do our spirit man end up? Well by looking at the scriptures, it is an abomination against God if we choose to deny Him. Our spirit man will end up somewhere "Below can give us a good example. {Luke 16:23-24} “And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments… And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Or maybe if we have chosen to obey our Lord and savor, follow His Commandment's stayed under His Covenant and followed His Law, then I am positive our spirit man will return back to God. when you say give us a picture of hell, what do you mean 'cos hell is just a common grave of dead mankind, both righteous and unrighteous go there. |
[/quote]We cannot understand that scripture to mean eternal torment. why? because understanding it that way will contradict Eccl. 9:5, 6, 10. the dead know nothing. Now, how do we understand this verse? Can you open to Isaiah 34:9, 10? That was a prophesy for Edom. Do you think Edom's fire is still burning today? how would you interprete this scripture? It holds a key to our unlocking the meaning of what is stated in that revelation.[/quote] |
But you are a young lady-why did your parents call you Max: were they disappointed they never had a boy: MaxInDHouse: |
MaxInDHouse:You chose to ignore me, because the truth is you can't come up the answers.. MaxInDHouse: |
Max you need to get this straight; we don't have pastors; we are together learning from each other. This is the Word of God, but if I was you: I would be repenting-don't be like Janosky-never Max mock the Holy Spirit. {Matthew 12:3} “So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven—except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will never be forgiven. {Mark 3:29} but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” MaxInDHouse: |


