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Unlike the ancient Egyptians that worshipped atum as a god that existed on his own, the vast majority of pagan scripts placed the first man as God but that earth was his mother. From there came a concept that Adam married his mother, as also in a case of Zeus who they believe to have made the human race.
The roman Catholic Church plagiarised the former pagan belief and instead of Zeus they had Jesus and instead of Rhea they had Mary. Why Jesus is seen as God. Mary is seen as mother of God. The same was practiced in Israel one time during a time of tribulation under the captivity of Babylon. Although they had Jeremiah, it looked like God had hid his face from them, the babylonians had a religious culture that related to their own but it was more fun. The secret of the hearts of the so called separated and sanctified Jews were open to them like watching a TV. They knew just what they wanted. Soon they were found practicing idolatry of the worship of tammuz and semiramis. It is nothing knew in the church.

Jesus to Peter: Get thee behind me Satan.
Paul: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood.

Eve was Adam's daughter.
Cain married his sister. Some sect say he married his mother.
Abraham married his sister.
A tribe is a family that originally started from a source of DNA. They keep marrying themselves in other to keep the lineanage going.
There is no way God can not forgive iniquity. Remember the Judge that said, let him that is without sin cast the first stone. They all left. But if were the people of today, they would throw all the stones they could find in the hope that Jesus would step in her place and die before his time. They know too much.
God please give us a humble heart.
The only person He cannot forgive is Lucifer, a tribesmen who secretly wishes to retire him to the basement. The only unperdonable sin is unbelieve

lx3as:
That's why I stopped commenting here because of insults from uncultured fellas like you, Some of you just want your egocentric opinions to be accepted by everyone when you know nothing.

You have not given any reference on how earliest known humans on earth transformed into Yorubas and how people were blocked from migrating from one continent to another; at least you should have shown us references on how no one migrated to present Yorubaland. We all know that human ancestors started in Africa but not in West Africa and there have been migrations to and fro.

Next time please learn to give your superior points, if you ever have one, without calling other ignorant; this only gives you up as someone from the 'other side', Omoluabi would never have been so abusive.

The only way to get to who is superior to who is by comparing the amount of knowledge they have reserved. It is only natural that our ancestors or earliest human were more advanced than us because what ever we have today are only made from their patent. The early humans could divide the seas, create flies, locust and other insects just to plague an enemy, they could cause the sun to stop for two days in order to finish a job, they could grow food within 24 hours in a desert event cause it to fall to the ground from the skies, they could build skyscrapers that could be taller than the World trade centre, they knew how to plant flowers and make gardens were they enjoyed their evening, even built some sort of internet that divided and linked all the lands of the world etc.
I can tell you that the earth lands was alotted to their various tribes from central hurb located at the then Babel or Babylon. Life on earth began in the middle east. The mystery of the original dragon that humans blindly worship is held there. Others are only plagiarism or reflections

OJODEL10:
OLODUMARE remain something i have been wonderin about and tryin to get it mean from the word; OLO means OWNER, ODU means MYSTERY, MARE could then mean HERE IT IS, OLODUMARE means OWNER OF MYSTERIES IS HERE (DEUT 29 V 29) OR OLO means OWNER, DU means STRUGGLE WITH, OR TO DENIED SOME ONE OF SOMETHING, BLACK. OMO means CHILD. ARE (wanderer?) what does it mean.ARE is also mention in statement like ONI RIN ARE someone who walk about. also in a suffix OSUMARE(RAINBOW). thus, OLODUMARE means OWNER OF STRUGGLE, WANDERER CHILDREN. could the yoruba in antiquity be people that wandered about before they finally settled, could ARE be the proper name of GOD? instead of YHAWEH. OR could OLO means EL(GOD) rather than OWNER? so it can be interpreted as OLO (EL = GOD) ODU = MYSTERIES MARE= HERE IT IS...

The word Ile-Ife is coined from Life. All races or languages have one and the same source. The English language as we have it today is a combination of many other languages so you can get what you are looking for. Read genesis 6.

Freh:
These parts where added for the sake of making people more obedient. A place like this didn't even exist in the old testament. Everybody went to sheol both the good and bad rich or poor. That's why Solomon felt in ecclesiastes that everything is vanity.

What about the Lazarus story or David and Job talking about hell or grave or Hades?

luvmijeje:
I know the Bible is fallible. So we'll have to agree to disagree

You mean infallible?

luvmijeje:
For them not to be bothered about that strong warning was a red flag for me. When I was much younger, anytime I read Revelation 22 in my mind I would be like this curse is too much o.

I think that the Bible is perfect as a blueprint with the current 66 books. You are allowed to read others books to compare. But the 66 books is authentic

Recently I had written a thread that explains why Saturn is the ruling planet of Capricorn. Their component characters and it's refference in the Holy Bible. Zeus or Jupiter being the wisest, making him King of the gods which I matched with the wise Serpent of Genesis 3. Capricorn being a Freelancer/Independent Contractor who didn't have to join any Tribes of the Beasts or gods before he could make a living off them. In the book of Daniel 8, the Capricorn Goat is given to be a Unicorn in the actual sense, and not a goat persay. The verse reads, and he had a noticable horn in between his eyes and he didn't touch the ground. Touching the ground is an allergorical meaning for underground jobs or hard labor. The pointed horn represent a Lance. Adam didn't have to labor for anything until the fall caused by the Serpent through the woman. The fall represent a karmic debt and delayed futune or ill-luck. Some sect interpreted the fall to mean a literal clinical death. Which is why Saturn or Pale horseman is nicknamed, Death. It represent the death of the aged Serpent and his reincarnation or reborn as baby Cain.
A plagiarized version during the Purge of the end time apocalypse will occur at Arm-Aged-Don. Revelation 16:12-16...

The Greeks have various myths about a particular event involving a Lavished wedding, a golden Apple and a Trojan war. The one that caught my attention is that of Zeus and Hera. We already explained who Zeus is but who is this Hera? It is simple, if you have a piercing eyes, Hera is simply He and Ra but since she's a woman, my mind takes me to the person of Ashera or Asherah. When you take the word Ashera, it gives you, As-He-Ra or A-She-Ra. The Egyptians worshipped Adam as the Sun god, the ancestor and father of all men, they called him Ra or in other cases Atum (Atom). In this light, the woman who was taken out of him would be A-She-Ra which they depicted to be the moon or atimes also a feminine sun. It was Ashera that is being called Hera who Zeus married and was presented with the golden Apple to cause the trojan war for failing to invite them.
The question now is did the Serpent really married Adam's fiance or does it mean that Zeus is Adam?

Revelation 6:1-2. The person associated with color white, a crown of gold and thunder here is no other entity than Zeus, Serpent, Antichrist. (the raw Christian knowledge is that the Antichrist is a spirit that possess a medium, popularly called false prophet to produce the Beast). The archry aspect of this horseman further identified him to Saggitarius the half-horsed man who is pictured as shooting an arrow. Only in this case the white horseman had no arrow, he only had a bow, so he was harmless, even though he conquered using terror tactics of thunder to compel the Cupid to shoot Adam in the heart.

Luke 10:17-19 further described him as a fallen lightening and also associated with Serpents and Scorpions. Light-ening and thunder come from the same source in the sky. And in the myths, it is the very weapon that Zeus possess. We are told that the Cyclops, a one eyed giant also known as the good Shepard that helped Zeus to forge his thunder bolt.

An intelligent research have shown that the constellation, Orion (the brightness Star in the sky) is attributed to the one eyed giant Cyclops and some other times a giant Scorpion. In the myth, Cyclops vowed to kill every wild beasts on the planet, this did not work out as he was cursed by a goddess Diana, and he died, but he was restored back to life with a scorpion mixed Herb. This is no other but Abel the Shepard who died and replaced by Seth.

Also the plagues of the Apocalypse in Revelation 9 tells the relationship of Scorpions with a King coming out of Hell to overthrown Mankind who has no branding or seal. The King whose name is given as A-bad-don, is referred to as the angel of the bottomless pit. He is definitely the Serpent and his legion of Scorpions were the other beasts that conspired against Adam because he was UN-Organized.
The relationship between Zeus and the Cyclops from the pagan version make it seem like Cain is Abaddon because Seth was his brother and surbudinate. It was said that Zeus and Cyclops are brothers and that he bannished Cronus into Tartarus and tied him up with an eagle ready to torture him endlessly. The Egyptians worshipped Seth as a god Horus who is depicted as Man with an eagle head with wings, he is said piercing eye sight. He was the Egyptian version of Cyclops. Every Pharaoh was a living Horus. The one eye represents a mysterious third eye Network system that linked the Pharaoh (Light/god) and it's bearers souls together as one. They're all connected so they feel sight, hearing, smell and taste, even the feeling of their subject (peasants) they are ruling over.

My conclusion:
Zeus represents the Serpent, an organised specie of gods or higher animals. Civilized.
Adam is a freeborn human being. Barbarian.
newZeus is Cain, the successor to the leadership seat of the past wisest Serpent. Hybrid
Hera is the Woman, a medium by which both specimens mixes together to produce a result. Culture.
Cyclops is Seth, the Martian force within the organised species that keeps Barbarian in check.
Abel is an experiment gone wrong.

Note: An ordinary interpretation of this story tells us that children is the burden of their parent. They are shackled to them. A child has many gaurdians.


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luvmijeje:
I don't even know when to start with you. You're not a curious person. You are not someone that's open minded. You are the reason why the leaders of a church commit a crime and go scot free.

I was reading the book of Revelation last week and my mind tells me to go to Revelation 23. I went there and I couldn't find Revelation 23. The book of Revelation ends at 22. And my mind tells me to google it and what I discovered shocked me. The book of Revelation has 30 chapters and 8 was removed because the priests were not comfortable with it.

Those who were familiar with the book of Revelation knows the strong warning John gave out. Despite the warning, they still remove am o.

If you're curious like me, you will wonder on not only what they remove, you will also wonder on what they add in order to brainwash people like you.

So after them remove am finish, them come leave out the part where he say make we no remove am?

May your role models never be rivals...

TruthinAction:
What is the bone of contention here?

That he received a new spirit. My point is that it was the same previous spirit that came to revive him

From the time of my last Green passport renewal until now. I am not sure whether the people of Nigeria have any value anymore. As we speak I don't think there's going to be anymore intergration for me as an individual who is supposed to be able to live independently within my given reasource. I as a person taught I had to make a little difference within the bigger picture by acting out the virtual/oral human rights part but I was wrong. Then I got hit by a forcefull school of thought in my current community. How can you help someone else when you can't help yourself? I thought, faith can move mountains. Till this day, I am still battling with OCDs and EMFs which has affected every aspect of my daily life and I don't think it is going away. So, I don't think about intergrity anymore because nobody needs it. And then even though I need it for my health, the affects of the EMFs will surpress the need or want. An example of this is that, I am loosing my teeth but still have hopes of getting rich, what teeth will I use to chew on meat? I like my privacy but then I can't move into the kinds of apartment I used to enjoy staying, I like chickens, cheese burgers with french fries etc but I will only eat once today and it will be the same thing I have eaten for years on credit after enough complaint and begging. So no I don't have it. Now what are you doing to do about it?

TruthinAction:
You are very correct. In addition, he was fully man for the purpose of redemption. He took our place on the cross. For that moment, he became sin for us. He had to suffer the full punishment which included going to hell. The father forsook him for the first time. Hence he cried, My father my father, why have you forsaken me? His spirit being dead does not mean he ceased from existing but that he was cut off from God. On the resurrection morning, the spirit received a new life. Jesus became born again. He was the first to be born again. Hence the Scripture foreseeing what will happen said, "You are my son, this day I have begotten you'. Now, Jesus is referred to as the first begotten from the dead. He is no longer the only begotten son of God.

Your spirit gives you consciousness which includes memories so if he could remember all the events before it means it was the same spirit. Jesus received the spirit of God in fullness but we have it in measure. It is the same spirit that revive the almost rotten flesh. From then on he has not aged because the flesh was transfigured to what it was before he became human. If you know about the logos then you will understand what I am talking here. He is both the firstborn of creation and the first begotten from the death in one person. The way he woke up from the dead was the way he looked like in heaven before he took on a flesh. In the throne of heaven, there is only one seat and the person there has the image or likeness of a Man according to Ezekiel 1, that person is Jesus at 33 years old. He is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Not two people.

God in His true nature has no form or shape and can't be measured, but to become God he needs to create and to do this He needs to have a form. The first thing he created was Himself, which we call the logos or in other words the Son. After the angels and then Man, who is a clone of himself on Earth. Then Man corrupt the blood with animal blood in Eden, to reverse the program He must use his own blood, which he did at Calvary. He returns to the throne the same way He has always looked like. Then his blood breeds other extensions in pure form. What a mystery. Isn't this sweet?

TruthinAction:
He couldn't have gone back to the Father who rejected him on account of our sins. Yes spirits don't die in a sense but it dies in another sense. You have a dead spirit when you have the nature of the devil which is sin. Our sins were laid on Jesus and for that moment, he was cut off from God. He went to hell to be held temporarily captive by the host of darkness. But when divine judgment was given in favour of man. The price is paid. The demand of the justice is met. The kingdom of darkness couldn't hold him down anymore. He defeated Satan and took from him the keys of hell and death. He rose again with a new life, a new spirit. His spiritually dead spirit was made alive.

You know that Jesus wasn't born the usual way. The spirit in Jesus is the fullness of the Holy Spirit himself. One verse said she was found with the Child of the Holy Spirit, another said that the Holy Spirit entered into her womb and started growing into a baby. Jesus claimed that God was His father and that God is a Spirit. This means that God is the Holy Spirit himself and it was that spirit in it's fullness (not in measure) was using Jesus all the while. But before the crucifixion He withdraw himself. And then came back to revive the body. The Holy Spirit can not reject Himself.

Example. God the Father make Adam, God the Son to be perfect like Himself. Then He initiated a fall and redemption plan. He couldn't curse Adam because if He did, He would be cursing Himself, so instead, He said, curse is the ground for your sake. Remember, the ground is his flesh but the spirit that makes him a living soul is God.

TruthinAction:
Yes, you can separate the spirit from the soul with the word of God - Hebrews 4:12. Jesus first died spiritually before he died physically. So, he was first made alive in the spirit before he was made alive in the flesh.

You must have taken the teaching too far. What really happened is that the spirit left him and went back to God or source and return after 3 days. Spirit can't die. It comes from the source that can't die. And so we can be cleared, Jesus is rising and it was the same body that was pierced through and nailed, also it was the same spirit that had been in him, the same memories, but the feeling of an overcomer. I am going to my father and your father to open all the doors of goodness and mercies...

TruthinAction:
It was the soul of Jesus that went to hell, not his spirit. His spirit became dead the moment our sins were laid on Jesus. It was on the resurrection morning that he received a brand new spirit. Hence he is referred to as the first begotten from the dead.

Wait, I think I know you. You are talking like someone named, junker. The spirit in Jesus was the spirit of God and there for can't die. The Bible said, the same spirit that quickened Jesus shall quicken our mortal bodies. The soul as you said went to hell and then return to quicken the flesh on the 3rd day. I don't know if you can separate the soul from the spirit. One has a form and the other hasn't.

Everything about the Pagans puts our Lord Jesus Christ as weak, defenseless and pitiful.
Have you ever seen the coat of arms of the United Kingdom? It is a riddle which when solved it matches with the story of the Ram and the Goat of Daniel 8.
A careful analysis of the goat will make you convinced that it was actually a unicorn that appears from the West to beat the Ram.
What appears to be a Ram in Dan 8 was actually a mysterious animal he couldn't name in chapter 7 vs 7, here it is called the beast, but the book of Revelation 13 vs 2 describe it well. In here we find that it was a leopard but has a big mouth like a lion and walks the way a Bear does. Here it is again called a beast, but it is in Daniel 8 we identified what it really was, and what actually beat it. In verse 5 in said, and as I was considering, behold, an He Goat came from the West on the face of the Whole Earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable Horn between his eyes. It was a Unicorn, not an actual goat. No wonder, it didn't touch the ground. It was a mysterious creature.
Although I would like to ascribe the goat or Capricorn to Adam, this mysterious animal was actually speaking in figure about Jesus defeating the Satan or the battle of Michael versus Dragon.
Now when you look at the the picture of the Dragon without a feather, it will give you the perfect image of the demiurge or saturn, the ruling planet of Capricorn that imposes karma, delay and hardship upon the person born under the starsign. From my previous explanation, I pointed out that the lion head of the demiurge is the Serpent or the devil who is the pince of the workers of Iniquity, while the snake body represent the woman. Their union will Ram the victim hard against all odds of life. But when you are stubborn like a Goat in Christ Jesus, you will be able to overturn the situation with the help of the whole universe.
Now look at this, the British have a story about two long time rivals, the lion and the unicorn, the lion chased after the unicorn and later gets chased back but the end of the story tells of the unicorn as weaker. Meanwhile, in the Bible, the unicorn won.
This is also another twist of faith, were the unicorn is a mythical creature like dragon while the lion could have represented the lion of Judah.
This is the reason why it is very wrong to play politics with or mix up Christianity with Pagan beliefs. It will never end well.

Why did Jesus said call no man father?
Even though Paul claimed to birth children unto God through the testimony of Jesus, he always said he was a servant of God and man.
Is it right to call any man father within the confines of Christianity?
Now we have Reverend father, then a little deeper we get a Royal father, now politicians have capped it by giving theirselves as a godfather, even though they deny our parents the right to own children reffering them as state property and the parents and gaurdians.
I wouldn't be bothered if it were in the movies but in reality. What do you think about calling a man Father or God?

The word Tribulation itself is a compound word that breakdown further into the word, Tribunal and/or Tribe. The first to experience this Tribunal is who is the Father of Humanity or Mankind. You will recall that Adam was the last creature of God which puts him under the category of child, the woman is only a byproduct of the Adam. In the book of Genesis, after God created the Heavens, the Earth and the Seas, he began to call everything else to come up out of The Ground until He got to Adam. All the Beasts of the field including the Serpent were all indigenous to the ground body, soul and spirit, all programmed in the ground, but when it gets to Adam's turn, God brings something from the heavens and mixed it up with something from the ground to makeup Adam.

In this light, Adam was the only creature that was Hybrid. He could not fit in the Tribes of the indigenous beasts although he had the mandate of rulership over the whole tribes. This is why God had to make him a woman from his own bossom. Now amongst the Beasts, the Serpent was the wisest, which placed him in between the money or chimpanzee and the man and ideally that would make him King of the Beasts and closer to the Adam.

In the book of Proverbs, Solomon said that when a man dies, his spirit goes up but when a beast dies it's spirit goes down to the earth. In another verse he said, woe unto that land whose King is a child.

So the Tribunal of Eden began immediately God went back to heaven to rest. All the Tribes of the Jungle rebelled with Serpent as their ring leader, they all ganged up and sent Adam to a Tribunal of exile. This is because he rejected the deity of the Serpent. His crime was the fact that he could not fit in amongst any group or native tribe so he could not live with them. By this time the woman who is a byproduct was involved in romantic orgy with Serpent, who also was banished along with Adam. Now the brain behind this Tribunal was the Serpent and revolution was the Serpent.
Before this time, everything in creation was in sync or at peace with Adam until the Serpent came along with the change slogan.

Now this is exactly how the Mark of the beast script will play out at the end of time. The book of Thessalonians 2 reveals that the Beast who is obviously a Man will seat in the temple of God and showing himself as God. The booking of revelation claims that all Tribes and tongues will marvel after him except a few sealed bunch. God's temple is the heart. Although men claimed to have built him a physical Temple made of bricks.

Now as Christians, Jesus is the Head of the church. And the church is his woman. The church is made of of a congregation of gentiles who believe in his death and resurrection and taking his name through baptizing in marriage. The bridal church has nothing to do with the Jews who are reffered to as his brethren. The church is divided into two groups of virgins, the wise virgins and the foolish virgins. In the parable of Jesus the wise virgins have oil in their lamps while the foolish virgins have not enough oil. Oil means anointing or Holy Spirit. Jesus said when the Holy Spirit is come upon you, he will teach you all things. Only the foolish virgins will experience this Tribunal of the beast. The wise virgins will cut up into a wedding feast with Jesus.

I have discussed the connection between the characteristic of the person who seat on a black horse and the beast. In chapter 6 we find the horseman holding a scale of balance like we find in a court, the same scale is used for measuring food and meat for prize. There is an instruction not to touch the oil and the wine. The Holy spirit is the amount of the word of God in Christians because the holy is a seed born as a baby and only feeds on the word of God, while the wine is the stimulation or ginger that it gives you.
However, when the Beasts reaches the temple of God, it will feed upon the oil and the wine. This is done by imposing himself to be worshipped or die. He places a blockade on our ability to trade or make money. Without money, we can't buy food and drugs necessary for our wellbeing and may result to aggression or worse.

From the book of revelation we have been given figure of Native Jews who would be redeemed because they are virgins, which by interpretation means of pure blood, they have not been mixed with other races. They are sealed by the preaching of the two Olives. This event about the sealed Jews is coming after the Beasts decree to organize or stand the risk of exile. These Jews should not be mistaken with the foolish virgins because they are around during the tribulation periods. These Jews are the original children of Adam whose blood has not been mixed.

In my previous thread, you will notice that Cain isn't a direct blood of Adam but of the union of Serpent who obviously was a beast and the woman, but Abel and Seth was Adam's. Adam had to change the name of the Woman to Eve (mother of all living, both Man and Hybrid man) when he discovered that she could procreate with anything. Immediately after those days, both races of Beasts and Humans began to crossbreed and thereby mixing up the bloodlines until God found Noah. From Noah down to Abraham to David and down to Jesus is a pure bloodline. They always keep a record and so will this 144, 000 people will not be mistaken.

We are called spiritual Jews because we're Christians by engraphment into the Commonwealth of Israel.
Haven't you noticed that the Jews are the ones running the economy of the world now? They a mixed races of Jews but they are still Jews and we Christians are beneficiaries of their wealth.

Now the Bible teaches that Jesus is the second Adam. Also that he came to correct where Adam failed by not yeilding to the pressure of the church which signifies Israel as a nation and is symbolic of the Woman with child in revelation 12. All the trials and temptations didn't shake his faith in the Father in heaven, even to the point that Serpent the devil himself haven heard of his fame, came to try him personally in secret while he was in fasting for a length of 40 days. They called him a bastard, son of harlot and adopted by a carpenter. Still he never ate the forbidden fruit by bowing down to Satan who had promised him the kingdom of the whole world. He knew that they would become His after the ressurection. The Bible said Jesus endoured the cross haven seen the glory set before him by faith. After his ressurection, he took power from Satan and we are joint heirs with him.

What does a runs girl even do? Is it paying off? I don't see any man who is able to give more N10,000 per service unless they are consentually dating. This way it is not runs. No?

What went into hell was his spirit and he could not have been held up there because he is now in the form of God. He went straight for the dragon's head, and bruised it. And then took His place. Jesus is the head of all principalities... Always have been.

I couldn't agree with that fact that you could torture God. The Bible said the flesh was under subjection to make him play the examplary role of a son. When he said let this cup pass over me, the spirit of God had left him. He was light. It was that same spirit that went to hell and then return to wake up the almost rotten flesh.
Your post make the wipes and torture and nailing was infact His hell.

I don't think so. But it is possible that he as reproduced pirated copies throughout the nation and attach himself to them via mysterious suckers. These clones uses the help of the higher man to checkmate the common human man within a given circle. The common man is very common and rare which makes him an important figure in every society. Buhari is not the only one with the Serpent or Lizzard suspect propaganda. Obama was called the Antichrist even Trump is called the Horseman of death giving his hair color and his name Trump-et

From birth I have been the one to speak against any form of authoritarian or totalitarian politics. I believe in independence, democracy and the rule of law. However, in 2015 when the political party changed, I experienced what it feels like to be living independently under a state in Nigeria. I had just lost my parents in 2011-2012, immediately the dominance of communism as the only permitted ideology began. The appearance of this monistic view on reality became the main preconditions for the existence of a system of political abuse of psychiatry. It soon becomes clear to me that, the practice of using psychiatry against political opponents existed long ago, only that I am just getting introduced into it. Some cases surfaced, notably in 2012 - 2015 in Abuja and later 2015 - 2018 in Benin.1 What came in place, however, was a very disturbing collection of other forms of abuse, including human rights abuses owing to lack of resources, corruption, outdated methods of treatment, lack of understanding of individual human rights and a growing lack of tolerance in society. This includes ‘economic abuse’ (e.g. having relatives declared mentally ill in order to take control of their possessions) or criminals buying their way out to freedom by bribing psychiatrists to deliver false diagnoses, as well as general human rights violations in psychiatric institutions, such as adverse living conditions, abuse by staff or gang stalking, unlawful incarceration and inhumane treatment.

However, although on the outside the political climate might have changed, in the minds of the citizens much of the psychological climate remained virtually unaltered.


Be right back

TruthinAction:
Revelation 14:1-3.
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were REDEEMED (RAPTURED) from the earth.

I hope the verses above buttress my point. The word redeemed and rapture is the same in this context. As at this time, Jesus has not returned. They were redeemed so they will not experience the great tribulation which the remaining Jews will go through. Please if you have any contrary view, back it up with Scriptures and not speculations.

Hebrew 12:22-23
But ye are come unto Mount Si'on, and unto the city of the Living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels.
To the general assembly and church of the Firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect.
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Angel = Messenger

Heaven Angels = Spirit messengers
Earthy Angels = Human messengers (Prophet or Son of Man)

Revelation 22:9
Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and they which keep the saying of this book, worship God.

Revelation 19:10
And I fell down at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, see thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
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Food for thought
Hebrew 13:14
For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

The Jews are not going into the rapture. The rapture is all about wedding of Jesus and the gentile Bride that will take place in the air. The 144,000 are reffered to as virgins not defiled with women but the gentiles church is a virgin girl

Stephen Rochester's comment though

TruthinAction:
Hu

They are candidates for rapture. They were sealed in Revelation chapter 7 and they were raptured as indicated by their presence in heaven in Revelation chapter 14. Please read thoroughly. Just as the Church has rapture saints, the Jews also have raptured Jews. The church had their tribulation period, the Jews also had their tribulation period which is worst than that of the church.

No brother, the 144,000 Jews will witness His second coming and not the rapture which is the secret coming/marriage party. The Jews are reffered to as His native brethren and not His Bride.
The 144, 000 are the ones who are not a mixed blood of Jewish race. The ones occupying Israel now are mixed blood of mainly German, or European in general and America. These ones are sealed as pure breed and they're not going into the marriage feast.

omojeesu:
Where did you get all these?

We are certainly not on the same page! I stick to the Bible only!

End of discussion!

Bye bye!!!!

Same here but the whole package was necessarily mandatory. Pick your own and leave the rest for it's audience.

omojeesu:
THIS IS CONFUSION GALORE!!!

THOSE WHO MISS THE RAPTURE ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE!!!

WHY? BECAUSE IMMEDIATELY THE RAPTURE TAKES PLACE GOD BEGINS TO POUR HIS WRATH ON EARTH JUST AS IN THE DAY OF NOAH AND LOT

Luke

17:26
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Note: "until the day"

17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

Note: "the SAME day"

17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Note: "in the day"

Note also that the Bible generally used the word "tribulation" for suffering of believers in the hands of Satan BUT generally used "wrath of God" for the punishment of unbelievers.

Antichrist will execute satan's wrath against the Church. It is tribulation.

Christ will execute God's judgment = the wrath of God.

You are the confusionist. First you said Antichrist and then you said Christ.
Point of correction. The Antichrist is not a person, it's a spirit that will possess the beast and his wrath is different from the vials, plagues etc of God.
The office of the beast and it's images are around for centuries but the person who'd end the world is the one talked about. After that there will not be another beast or tribulation. It's not a script that is played for an individual but Christians in general. Question, who/where are the Christians? Do you see the great tribulation happening already or do you you know who the Antichrist's beast is, or we are just going through the usual test of our faith in Jesus?

This is what the tribulation looks like. First it is a compound word that when broken-down gives you the word, Tribe or Tribunal. The pagans have it all mapped out in the astrological charts like grouping all of 12 calendar Stars under 4 signs. Namely, Earth, Air, Water and Fire on the highest peak. Then break it down to earthly tribes and tongues.
They use Adam who they call Saturn as Earth
Then Woman or Venus as Water
Then Serpent or Jupiter as Air
Lastly Cain or Mars as Fire
There are the cardinal characters of the groups.

Now they teach that Saturn or Adam was married to his mother after he had cut off his father's Uranus (A sky god) testicles and threw it into the Water and then he births Zeus another sky god who overpowered him by locking him with chains in Tartarus or Hell which puts Adam as the Antichrist and the Serpent as the Christ based on logistics. Then the era of the Titans immediately folds away and the Olympians were born.
Now if I were going to explain this script for you using the Bible. The Serpent was a wise Beast or the King of the Jungle who approaches the woman (Lilith as they called him in another page) who is obviously aged than Adam in a romantic relationship, while Adam (the child of God) is sex starved. It is obvious that the Serpent could both talk, walk upright like a man and after meeting the woman was expecting a child or baby. See, Genesis 3 vs 1 "now the Serpent was more wiser than any beast of the field or street, AND HE SAID UNTO THE WOMAN... verse 14, "and the Lord God said unto the Serpent, because you have done this, I curse you to go on your BELLY... verse 15, "I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your SEED or baby and hers..." John once called certain people, "generation of Serpent" and our Lord Jesus said "you have been killing the prophets from Abel till Zacharias because you father is the DEVIL WHO IS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING" Although he was born in April, he never preached astrology. Infact he said pray that your flight be not in the Winter or the Sabbath. Seth in astrology is November which is winter and Adam in astrology is January who the Law was given to, "do not eat" the Law is Sabbath. So the great tribulation is generally and collectively to the Christians and not an individual.

Breakdown to the state

The Serpent is the Ancestral spirit who will reincarnate in another body as indigenous ruler (the Beast). The whole creature were made before Adam.
The woman is the Tribes of the States which consists of people also known as the church, apparently holding ancient secrets or mysteries.
Adam is an ignorant human child (Heir or a Leader of Tomorrow). A type of Jesus who is currently running the churches while seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven. Adam was away when the Serpent approached the woman.

In the tribulation, people, tribes and tongues will be involved in a universal romantic orgy with the beast and will deprive Jesus our savior worship like the baby Adam. This is what makes Jesus called her the LovePeddler who has made the world drunk with the wine (Stimulation or Formation/Job) of her fornication.
It is those who identify with Jesus that will not bow to the beast that will be troubled, tortured by not being able to trade or make money and may eventually die of trouble. This means that the church is divided. For he said come out of her my people in revelation 18.4
And before we read of the LovePeddler, there is another woman in chapter 12 who was pregnant with a child who is to Leader of tomorrow.

We are told however that except those days of tribulation were shortened, no flesh will be saved. It means for the elect's sake, it will be shortened.

Lastly and again, the rapture is not a reoccurring event. It is meant to happen once. There is nothing like a world without end. Everything has a beginning and ending except God.

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WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE THAT MISS THE RAPTURE?

It will make the church to trib against each other on the command of the beast. In this case the first church is the foolish virgins who didn't make the rapture then the other is the state.

The wise virgins will not experience a tribulation. They will go into the marriage feast or party with Jesus.

Earth represent a woman and so is everything that has to do with gathering together of people like said a state, country etc. Now the state is not a Christian organization but the Christian Church is within the States and Jesus Christ is Her head.

When the beast shows up, he will want to replace Jesus Christ. This example has been drawn since the times of the Vicars or Papals popularly known as Pope of the early church ages after emperor Constantine merged the state to Church and caused the Christians to recognize him the Christ is Jesus'absence. The church supported him with prayers after they overthrowned it's original founder Janice and Andronico. By the time they came back the church had drifted into praying to images as the Catholics do now. They went ahead to start afresh, since then there have been misunderstandings till date. This is why the Christians are not United and the need for revivals over and over.