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|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by OlaoChi: 12:06am On Dec 10, 2018|
LMAO you are clown. When you are ready to be serious, come back
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 3:38am On Dec 10, 2018|
This was established a long time ago. It's one thing to have a divergent view within the culture, it's an instant give away when the divergence is preceded, consistently, with caustic and vulgarity unknown and unfamiliar in the ethos of Yoruba upbringing and grooming.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 4:27am On Dec 10, 2018|
The word Ile-Ife is coined from Life. All races or languages have one and the same source. The English language as we have it today is a combination of many other languages so you can get what you are looking for. Read genesis 6.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 5:02am On Dec 10, 2018|
The only way to get to who is superior to who is by comparing the amount of knowledge they have reserved. It is only natural that our ancestors or earliest human were more advanced than us because what ever we have today are only made from their patent. The early humans could divide the seas, create flies, locust and other insects just to plague an enemy, they could cause the sun to stop for two days in order to finish a job, they could grow food within 24 hours in a desert event cause it to fall to the ground from the skies, they could build skyscrapers that could be taller than the World trade centre, they knew how to plant flowers and make gardens were they enjoyed their evening, even built some sort of internet that divided and linked all the lands of the world etc.
I can tell you that the earth lands was alotted to their various tribes from central hurb located at the then Babel or Babylon. Life on earth began in the middle east. The mystery of the original dragon that humans blindly worship is held there. Others are only plagiarism or reflections
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by 0balufonlll: 7:43am On Dec 10, 2018|
Baba nla, I will respond to your thoughts here soon. I do not want to rush up a rejoinder & get caught in the web of your position.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by OlaoChi: 1:48pm On Dec 10, 2018|
What you have is an insult not a divergent view, for your posts to actually be called divergent views you need basis of such views to be founded in facts not a total imaginative narrative, it is an insult to imply the African man is incapable of establishing a civilization like the Yoruba without Semitic influence. There is nothing omoluabi about using left hand to describe one's fathers house. I don't do that. If you had the Yoruba upbringing you claim you would have the unshakable Yoruba pride. There is nothing more vulgar and caustic than trying to revolutionize yoruba history to glorify foreign people
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by macof(m): 4:16pm On Dec 10, 2018|
Olu317:i have told you before that i do not stand in your way of proving the possibility of middle eastern origin of yoruba
i even opened a thread for you to answer all my over 30 questions https://www.nairaland.com/4735900/unanswered-questions-yorubas-hebrew-heritage
which you just kept repeating the same thing, thereby wasting my already limited time
But one thing is already established - the yoruba language is a volta-niger language having linguistic origins with other volta-niger languages. So if at all yoruba ancestors came from israel, they would have adopted the yoruba language just as Danes adopted French after settling in Normandy.... even though traces of hebrew 'might' be there the language is still Volta-niger not semitic.
Now your job is to provide proof of this migration and hebrew elements in yorubaland, if you cannot then you should shut up
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by lawani: 4:26pm On Dec 10, 2018|
macof:it has been proved that modern Yoruba is descended from kenitic Egyptian of 5 thousand years ago. That was the language spoken by the hebrews when they were slaves in Egypt.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by macof(m): 4:37pm On Dec 10, 2018|
lawani:1. 5000 years ago, kemitic egypt was just starting.
2. hebrew nation is not as old as 5000 years
3. outside the bible(which is not a credible historical source) hebrews are nowhere recorded to have been slaves in Egypt
4. Yoruba language and Egyptian language are totally different....Egyptian is/was a Cushitic language...i dont see the connection between Cushitic languages and Volta-Niger languages.. so please provide this 'proof' since according to you it has already been proven that Yoruba descended from ancient Egyptian...it should be easy, just direct me to the academic work that contains this proof
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by lawani: 5:07pm On Dec 10, 2018|
macof:search yorubic world itsekiri igala global peace. I can't post it because of phone problems
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 1:00pm On Dec 12, 2018|
macof:Do I owe your any reason to proof anything to you if you hadn't being an antagonist of what has ridicule Yoruba's ancestors being said to have come from the sky? .....Well ‘Mr. macof, there is no English word that can be in use as ‘shut up' online because you are only reading my information and you can't use such as a vulgar word on me . So, rephrase your vulgar word correctly if you re bittered . Obviously your monicker is a give away for your name, probably ‘makin.....' because you think you are omo akin....
As far as I am concerned, you are one of the problem amongst those of you that HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE of something ,yet claim what you have no knowledge of. Isn't it cowering of you and your likeminds? You even went further in making mockery online of someone else's work by using catastrophe's meaning as an excuse,perhaps it make you happy at people's downfall.
Funny enough, David Reich ( professor) did genetic test on some Yorubas from Nigeria and discovered a DNA link with Nothern Europeans , yet you have no knowledge of this and other things and kept fuming as if you can breathe out fire? Well It seems you have no understanding of it and you bow to the supreme power of Eledaa,who sent others and I....Iranu. Honestly, I am highly disppointed in you with your style of your negative post online
Let me hurt your unstudied butt more with a name which you can't know the meaning forever ,except you know ancient Hebrew's syllables and its root words... . Here is the word: יורבּ.......big assignment
In 1905, Flinders Petrie, a renowned Egyptologist and pioneer in modern archeology, discovered inscriptions of previously unknown symbols at Serabit el-Khadim.
Dr. Alan H. Gardiner, Another renowned Egyptologist, studied these inscriptions in detail. He discovered that these Sinaitic inscriptions consisted of a total of thirty-two symbols. And because of the limited number of symbols Dr. Gardiner determined that this was an alphabet.Gardiner was then able to easily identify this Sinaitic alphabet as Semitic because of the pictographic nature of this alphabet. The name of each Hebrew letter is a Hebrew word with meaning. And one of the pictograph of HEAD in ancient Hebrew is ‘Reish/resh',what does it mean to you if R is the letter of the alphabet that clearly identified with ‘ORI'? ........ Go learn if you are serious....
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 2:23pm On Dec 12, 2018|
lawani:Mosttimes , people kept mistaking identity of ancient yorubas as as young as 5000 years ago as from Egypt. Well,a lot of people don't see beyond Kmt or Nubians as if these were the only ethnicities in Africa as at this period, instead of people to realise that these places are kingdom that reigned, where people lived for survivals either locals or foreigners. In fact there is a revelation in Ifa that pinned migration of Yorubas as coming from oorun to aayé. Is this about Heaven and Earth? . Do you know ‘or' is in ancient Iraq and ‘Ai' is also in Israel land? Or/UR means ORU(Yoruba) : HEAT. Wisdom and research solves a lot of myth without proofs.
Furthermore, there is an archeological human fossil that was discovered in Israel which is over 150 years old whichnulled Yoruba's current claim as the ancetors of humanoid as being claimed by Yoruba oral tradition. In fact,the fossil, dated to nearly 200,000 years ago, is almost twice as old as any previous Homo sapiens remains. So NIGERIA IS A PIECE OF LIES IF CLAIMED BY NOVICE AS IT CONCERN FACT ON YORUBA'S ANCESTORS HISTORY. Yoruba ancestors developed their own alphabets using Kemitic knowledge to achieve the outstanding techniques the world ever known. Another interesting thing about Yoruba o that they developed a knowledge of animal names which is baffling because larger set of animal names are clearly descriptive through their knowledge. Example: Akuko(cork)—A-ku(n)-ko(r), O' ru ko(goat) etc.
There is no one group originally called Hebrew because
the definitive origin of the term "Hebrew" remains uncertain. Thus,the Biblical term Ivri ( עברי ; Hebrew pronunciation: [ʕivˈri] ), meaning "to traverse" or "to pass over", is usually rendered as Hebrew in English, from the ancient Greek Ἑβραῖος and the Latin Hebraeus. The Biblical word Ivri has the plural form Ivrim , or
Ibrim. So linguists,archeologists,egyptologists, historians rely on every new discovery or discovered pictographs which are translated.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 2:38pm On Dec 12, 2018|
macof:Look up to science journals to learn what's called fossil human and the world oldest ones accordingly , because the ancient Abraham ancestors were as old as the earth could be remembered. In fact, they have an account, as claimed by some Yorubas as flood era . The A wo of this world(seer). Help me explain the corroletation between Niger Volta's Ibo's Ewu and an ‘o ru ko' is ?
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by lawani: 2:41pm On Dec 12, 2018|
Olu317:l don't subscribe to the claim that yorubas are hebrews though but a large number of kenitic Egyptians mixed with our ancestors enough to change our language
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 3:44pm On Dec 12, 2018|
But you subscribe to Yoruba being called Kemets or related to Kemet? What an irony!
Do you have knowledge of the group of different people that lived in ancient Kemet-Meroe land at all ?
Who were the people that mixed with Yoruba ancestors that lived in kemet land?
If I may ask you, what name did the Yorubas ancestors bore in that land of kemet?
Do you know in ancient Kmet land,there was a land of Yeb—jeb ?
In fact, do you know the 27 scarabs found in Egypt ?
Perhaps you can ponder over this assertion of this man called Conton, who says, ‘The Yoruba of Nigeria are believed by many modern historians to be descended from a people who were living on the banks of the Nile 2,000 years ago, and who were at the time in close contact with the Egyptians and the Jews'.
Mind you,kindly verify some of following word found in Egypt and their link with Yoruba before comparison of of yoruba language with ancient Hebrews because Hebrews also lived in Egypt. I am sure you know with archeological record that the ancient Hebrew and Egyptians didn't lived together for a Jubilee (50 years), but over four centuries (400+ years) and I am sure ,you will realize they shared certain lexicons.
Egypt: Uraeus (python/
Yoruba:Ere/Uré (Python / Serpent)
Egypt: Horise (a great god)
Yoruba: Orise/orisa(ancestor/ god)
Egypt: Ged (to chant
Yoruba: Igede (a chant)
Egypt: Ta (sell / offer)
Yoruba: Ta (sell/offer)
Egypt: Sueg (a fool)
Yoruba: Suegbe (a fool)
Egypt: On ( living person)
Onen/orni—Éní ( person)
Egypt: Kum (a club)
Yoruba: Kumo( a club)
Egypt: Enru (fear / terrible)
Yoruba: Eru (fear / terrible
Egypt: Kun / qun (brave man)
Yoruba: Akin (title of a brave man)
Yoruba: Odon (festival)
Egypt: Ma or mi (to breath)
Yoruba: Mi. (to breathe)
Egypt: dumu (a water god)
Yoruba:Adumu (ancestor god being venerated)
Egypt: Khu (to kill)
Yoruba: Ku (die)
Yoruba Ika (evil)
Egypt: Unas (lake of fire)
Yoruba: Una/Ina (fire)
Egypt: Tan (complete)
Yoruba: Tan (complete/finish)
Egypt: Beru (force of emotion)
Yoruba: Beru (fear)
Egypt: Bi (to become)
Yoruba: Bi (to give birth, to become)
Egypt: Heqet*Re (frog deity)
Yoruba: Ekere (the frog)
Egypt: Feh (to go away)
Yoruba: Feh (to blow away)
Egypt: Kot (build)
Yoruba: Ko (build)
Egypt: Kot (boat)
Yoruba: Oko (boat)
Egypt: Omi (water)
Yoruba :Omi (water)
In fact, Amon/Amun was the name of the son of Manasseh who was considered one of the wickedest kings in the history of Judah. He ruled in the 7th century BC. This name was derived from the AMUN's land in Nubian-Egypt land after Babylonian attacked that land with her ally which Judah's King Manasseh participated in the war as a vassal state under Babylonia. The name became a reference for remembering exploit in Egypt, which furthered the migration of ancient Hebrew back to Egypt.
Again,on using alphabet's letter for deciphering yoruba as a cognate language of ancient semetics,while using ‘awon'(hook/net for catching fish in Yoruba, is of the same letter with ancient Hebrew's ‘Waw'.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 4:00pm On Dec 12, 2018|
lawani:I look forward to reading from your understanding of Egyptians elements who mixed up with Yorubas.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by lawani: 4:15pm On Dec 12, 2018|
Olu317:because of language similarities, it is obvious that kemites reached here by trekking in large numbers and mixed with people here thesame wAy German speakers mixed with Celts to form the English people and language
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 12:01am On Dec 13, 2018|
As far as I am concerned,I have no intention to awaken the deaf but those that can scrutinize and understand the revelation. Thus Einar Haugen says,‘ Historically this means that at a certain period in the life of each language , ‘influential men have learned certain languages and have enriched(or in the opinion of some,corrupted ) their language by modelling their expression on that of certain teacher Language in the book( Ecology of Language,1972) . My question is this, if yoruba learned this word,
1. Why is ‘Oorun:sun', is not having the same meaning in the whole of Africa's ethnic group as the same way as Yorubas? Ponder over it.
2.Why is ina/una not found in Fulani, Hausa(Afroasia language), Ibo etc in Subsahara Africa? Ponder over it
Mind you, trekking will be suicidal Sir unless, there were settlements in each transit locations! Although, Parrinder,Leo, Lucas,etc believed so much of the migration through some routes which Professor Dierk Lange proposed. Even among Northern Nigeria,many words and their meaning aren't similar as well as compared to ancient Egyptian; Nubian/Ethiopians/Meroe-kmt but ancient Hebrews—Semitic,such as Oru/or; heat ,both Yoruba and Hebrew-semitic.Another example is eym/e'em/iye; mother, both Yoruba's and Hebrew etc .
The English ancestors history has that they were displaced Saxons and Jutes who journeyed from Germania to Britain when the Romans evacuated it in 450 AD .
So don't mix up the language of English which isn't as you see it because, it evolved through Mediterranean language even further corrupted the ancient Hebrew word known as Ashe( Yoruba-Mashal( reconstructed ancient Hebrew)- Marshal(English) and not some Germanic stock solely. The English lexicon claimed to have 3040% of all words in English to be related word in Spanish.And their origins was in Latin;( Italian,french Spanish) ‘although some are derived from other language families (e.g., Germanic)', noted Patricia F.
Vadasy and J. Ron Nelson, captured this in their book "Vocabulary Instruction for Struggling Students" (Guilford Press, 2012),
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 5:30pm On Dec 13, 2018|
The English were displaced by many of the European families for ages. The Danes, the French, sweds etc their language is a mixed-up of many different lingos including some from our continent. That is why it is widely spoken
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 12:01am On Dec 14, 2018|
Okay, my dear brothers, where are we now? This thing has gone too long. Did we agree yet?
Olu, give it to them jare. Tell them what they dont know.
As you dey coach on the Egypto-Hebrew side me sef go dey support from the Meccan-Mondiana side.
Let me know when you need my input.
Infact sef before I get distracted, how many people here know that color Blue is an original Yoruba word? Hahahahaha...
How about word as an original Yoruba, anyone knew?
Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by OlaoChi: 12:44am On Dec 14, 2018|
All of you are just mad that's all. Making a joke of the Yoruba nation
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 12:56am On Dec 14, 2018|
Omo ibo, i pity you.
I go teach you world knowledge and the mystery behind Yoruba roots.
Oya go get ya pencil with exercise book and begin take notes. You are my student now and i go teach you free of charge.
Which autonomous community in East be your homeland? Tell me.
Do you doubt that "word" is originally Yoruba?
Mtttchhew...i pity you.
This is Imperial Yoruba. There is no other race on planet earth that is more Superior. Our ancestors taught the world their beginnings and gave structure to world order.
You need to stop playing around my friend.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 1:54am On Dec 14, 2018|
My people, Olu has proven beyond doubt that Yoruba's roots is in Egypto-Syriac area. This will include Canaan and to Mesopotamia. What else do you all want? Just concur with the evidence. Im reading what these guy has brought here, this is no joke. You all need to stop joking around.
Ok, here is whats going to happen...if you say Yoruba is Niger-Congo or Niger-Volta, then do your own work and present a counter by establishing for other tribes what Olu has convincingly proven to be a tie between Yoruba and Egypto-Hebraic.
Do it if you have some balls.
Olu i didnt know you have gone this far bro. God bless you my dear Prince! May your ancestor Oranmiyan imbue your spirit and open your mind to the well of inspiration and knowledge in the ancient records. Wow! Im impressed sir!
I think i shouldnt open my own chest of treasures to show with proof the Yoruba ties in Mondiana. I think you have done enough to convince all of us. But if you want to open the flood gate let me know. We will blow this place up. People that are not Yoruba sef go just open mouth in awe of the troves of information and knowledge. Dont get me started...let me just cool down right now.
Have i told you guys that "terrace" is originally Yoruba? How about "tambourine", another Yoruba word?
Mmtccheew....look, let me just calm down right now and not show off.
Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 2:08am On Dec 14, 2018|
Yoruba is not a race.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 2:23am On Dec 14, 2018|
My guy, go and sitdown somewhere!
You have no clue what a race is. You think na only color define race?
Yoruba civilization gave birth to many other civilizations. The Yoruba race taught the world how to dwell in cities and organize society.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 2:55am On Dec 14, 2018|
Black is a race that is lagging behind because of tribal rivalries in the name of playing politics. Yoruba is one of the tribes in the black race. Even their presence in Brazil and other places haven't affected me positively more than the English influence. The Yorubas are just starting, people have been built cities with towers and gardens since the days is Mesopotamia and Persians when the Yorubas were not even wearing agbada yet, if they were even around.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 4:00am On Dec 14, 2018|
You are trying to provoke me,thats all. You are trying me.
You cannot mention civilization anywhere on this planet without reference to thrones. Correct?
An Emperor, a King, a Queen...has no power and majesty until is first coronated. Correct?
The coronation is a ritual involving the head only. Nothing else! Correct?
Certain rituals of blood sacrifice and spiritual cleansing is done to transcend the coronated head and bring it into a realm of divine grace. Correct?
Go and look at all the insignia of all ancient and modern civilization Empires and there is an unmistakable acknowledgement of water plants. Correct?
Every Imperial power back to ancient times has a totem. The totem is an animal. Correct?
All Imperials are addressed as Crown head. Correct?
All Crown heads also bear arms. Correct?
In case of Yoruba, the word "Emperor" itself derives from a root word in old Yoruba which stands for "Command". The word is "PERE".
Are you also aware that "King" derives from Yoruba's attribute for valour, " AKIN"?
There are different kinds of Crowns. There is State Crown and there is a Chamber Crown.
Crown itself, incase you are unfamiliar, is derived from Yoruba word for shell, IKARAWUN, do you not know? Shells were used in ancient days to construct Crowns.
There is a Chamber Crown called "Coronet"...but don't you know this word came from Yoruba's "AKORO"?
My guy, do you know how many varieties of Crowns there are in the Yoruba antiquity? Are you aware we have crowns that have continously been in posession for over a thousand years? Ade AARE!
Let me tell you, there is no society in human race that has as many variety of royal Crowns as do the Yoruba.
No Yoruba King is coronated without first giving a blood sacrifice animal and a burnt offering at the altar. The Yoruba Emperor is divine...Igbakeji Orisa!
All Yoruba royal pedigree have totem and is passed along from ancestor to generations.
The palm frond....MARIWO, is the water plant used in coronating Yoruba Emperors and Kings.
The Yoruba Emperor must carry sword at coronation.
Ok. Now that you see that the insignia used around the world to coronate Imperial powers and civilizations are either derived from Yoruba custom or is also practiced in Yoruba, do you still dispute the SUPERIORITY of YORUBA as the father of civilizations anywhere on earth?
Yoruba, the most Superior race anywhere on planet earth!
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|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 4:21am On Dec 14, 2018|
When Persia ran her empire, the Yorubas were not formed. Egypt is another great kingdom whereas we on this side imported their knowledge. No doubt we had something to offer them back maybe human or mineral resources. How will you feel to realize that your great great grand parents were sold of to the Arabs who later resells them to the Europeans to work in plantation sugarcane farms in the Americas or retaining males for hybrid experiment in Portugal in return for development of our lands.
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 5:05am On Dec 14, 2018|
Focus on what I shared first and dispute any of the knowledge I taught you, if you are honest.
Which of the knowledge about Yoruba and Imperial power do you dispute, and the fact that other civilizations borrowed from it?
I dont want to hear Persia from your mouth anymore. Not on this thread. Assyria and Akkadia gave birth to Persia. Yoruba is the living remnant of Canaan and Assyria. Do you hear me?
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 8:03am On Dec 14, 2018|
That region is a boiling point till today because of Noah's curse and it wasn't even called Syria when they got civilised. Persia became an empire immediately after the demise of Babylon years after they hold the seat. Cannan himself who is their founder is a grandson of Ham who founded Egypt and I am sure that migration into this part had not given birth to a tribe called Yoruba. Even if they were around they were not still the author of whatever they had which was brought in with them from the middle east and it was still in the primitive stages. This is why they are are answerable to the superior civilization from which they came from giving them the might of an empire or kingdom.
Noah had three children who had many more and the ones who journeyed into the plans of Europe and Asia had managed to expand and become powerful enough to come back to to buy slaves from the Arabs that were of African race. We practically borrowed everything we have. Sorry
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 12:51pm On Dec 14, 2018|
So im confused here. Did you read what i wrote up there? Do you deny that to Yoruba?
|Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by bluke(m): 2:04pm On Dec 14, 2018|
lookout the old name of medina ?
you will understand the yorubas were before islam.
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