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If an embryo is a soul like you pointed out.

Did you purposely ignore blastocyst or you didn't see it up there.

Well lemme ask for confirmation purpose, is blastocyst souless?

Dtruthspeaker:
Is it that you do not see such that you do not see the difference between a dead person and a living person?

If a dead person is exactly like a mannequin, then you shouldn't be flinching or reacting when you see one after all he is soul less (according to you) just like a mannequin.

But anyway, this was not the focus of your thread. You only narrowed it to the specific period when it can be said an embryo is a soul. And the best place to see this answer is in a woman who has been barren for a long while.

Boss haven't you noticed that one thing is certain about these folks, they would always twist the bible to suit their narratives.

Sometimes they make up excuses for God, isn't that hilarious?

achorladey:
See wahala



See what that your God you talked about says....

Look! All the souls—to me they belong. As the soul of the father so also the soul of the son—to me they belong. The soul who sins is the one who will die.

Don't peddle your lies and manipulations to impress others about your Bible knowledge. Is that clear? Even when the soul or whatever is faithless they still belong to God. Apply your intelligence

HardMirror u're on point sir.

Okay thanks for your comments🙏

cornelboy:
According to the Bible, a soul is the whole being of a person.
The soul is not a spiritual entity that enters someone at a point.

So you can gather more knowledge from elsewhere and make your own conclusions.

That means a soul could mean a thing to Mr. A and means another to Mr. B

So In that case soul is whatever you call it to mean right?

MaxInDHouse:
Someone or something you know not just as a creature but by name.
You dog is just a dog to Mr Akpan (Calabar) and Mr Ẹ̀gin (Òndó) because to both of them dog simply means "meat" but to you your dog is more than just a dog so if anyone should kill your dog you won't welcome the idea of a replacement because you have known your dog as a pet and member of your house whose absence will be felt by everyone in the house.

That's what a SOUL means!

Do you know the meaning of a complete being?

cornelboy:
Do you know what conception mean?

Identified as what?

MaxInDHouse:
Soul means a creature that is identified .

For instance your dog is a soul!

Now think of it this way

MaxInDHouse:
Please imagine a farmer of about 65 years old who has lost all hope of having a tree as everyone keeps mocking and calling him a treeless farmer but somehow he got an orange seed and a farmer confirmed that the orange seed is two weeks old.

How would he view anyone whose mistake happens to destroy the orange seed he planted?
Will he take it as just an orange seed or his only tree ?

I have told you before, I don't know anything about soul, I only lack belief in the existence of a soul, because I can't point to it.

But if you claim to have knowledge about SOUL mind you I'm not talking about your belief on soul o!!!, I'm talking about your Knowledge on it. Then provide evidence for your claim.

cornelboy:
Can you just tell me what you think or know about the soul concept and on what basis are you asking?

Boss the tin Tire me self o

LordReed:
So an embryo is a complete human being? An embryo that has no brain or any other organs is a complete human being?

Bros, you asked what I knew about soul, then I posted what I read about it, mind you what I posted wasn't my believe it's only what I read about it, now before you made your first comment on this thread, didn't you see where I said OBLIGE IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW?

Note that, soul also have a philosophical meaning too.

If you claim to know something you should be able to prove why that thing is so, I'm not asking you of your belief sir, if it were belief I won't be asking you of proof sir.

What you pointed out as my conclusion is just what I feel or believe personally about soul, it can changed provided the right person presents a body of proof on why I should discard my believe about it, and when that proof is presented to me, I won't be having just believe but core knowledge about what a soul is.

So at the emboldened below why trust the bible on this soul idea?

cornelboy:
You're not making any sense. According the screenshot you uploaded, soul is religious and spiritual term, so why bother asking?
You don't even believe in religion and religion books. And yet you're a on a religion thread.

So why are you here if you don't believe in soul and already conclusion that there's no soul from common reasoning? You want a verifiable evidence lol.

Mind you, according to the Bible which I trust, humans don't have an independent soul in them. Rather our whole complete being is the soul. You're a soul yourself. The same way we die, is the same way animals die.

That I don't practice any religion doesn't mean I'm prohibited from religion thread.

I'm open to learning, provided you share your knowledge on souls with me backed up with
verifiable proofs. If you say all humans have souls, then how did you come to the knowledge of that?

My concern is, how did you know all what you have claimed about soul?

Remember my questions about soul isn't about believe but knowledge.

I don't believe humans have souls because I can't point out a soul on a human body. Mind you, I don't need knowledge for that, it's Just common reasoning.

cornelboy:
Lol
You're not making any sense.
If you really don't practice and believe in any religion, why are you here on religion thread?
Why are you asking what soul means knowing that it relates with religion and spirituality according to the screenshot you provided?

You want a verifiable evidence on what basis, scientifically, on religion terms or what?

It's funny actually.

First answer these questions, do you believe humans have souls and where did you get your knowledge from?

How is the below not making sense?

cornelboy:
You obviously don't understand what soul means.

7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

A soul is the combination of the body (cells, organs etc) and God's spirit or breath.

We got our life from our parents. Every human lives came from Adam. Adam's life came from God's breath or spirit.

We are all souls.

Busybrain2233:
Boss man, I'm not a Xtian sir, so why present the above bible portion to me?

Btw, can you present any verifiable proof for the emboldened?

cornelboy:
It doesn't make any sense

Boss, I asked u a question and you are returning it back with more questions

cornelboy:
Do you believe in spirituality?

Is the bible more accurate on the soul concept than other religious book does?

Again where did you get the you(mind, body and soul) translation according to Jere 1:4-5?

Kobojunkie:
If you visit the scripture below, you will see that man came into being at the point that God molded him, man from clay.
The breath of life that animated man after he was created did not form man but rather gave man access to life—the same life all plants, animals and even nematodes have.

Man = mind, body, and soul
Living man = mind, body, and soul + God's breath of Life.

2. Are you here attempting to make me believe that all 3 religions have the same idea of a chest of souls written in each of their "holy" books? Come on!

I don't know anything for sure about soul, I only read what many people claim it is.

cornelboy:
What do you know about soul?

No I don't

cornelboy:
Do you practise any religion at all?

Where did you get the you(mind, body and soul) translation sir?

Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism etc.

Philosophically too.

Kobojunkie:
Scripture is not a religion but a source for a particular idea. I don't care for religion because a lot of religious ideas are culled from the minds of the speaker and not from an established source of any kind.

As I stated earlier, Scripture had it that the soul is part of man at his creation/conception. Below is the Scripture God's direct message to Jeremiah whom He, God, formed in the womb(mind, body, and soul complete).
This is what Scripture makes clear of the creation process.
So, again, I ask, what is the source of the belief that you quoted earlier?

Many religions believes in the soul concept, so if you have to quote the bible, you also have to quote other religious book sir.

Or perhaps quote not any.

Kobojunkie:
What i stated is what is written in Scripture. So you tell me instead where your idea of a soul entering from this chamber of souls comes from.

Boss man, I'm not a Xtian sir, so why present the below bible portion to me?

Btw, can you present any verifiable proof for the emboldened?

cornelboy:
You obviously don't understand what soul means.

7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

A soul is the combination of the body (cells, organs etc) and God's spirit or breath.

We got our life from our parents. Every human lives came from Adam. Adam's life came from God's breath or spirit.

We are all souls.

You said from the moment they where conceived okay, please where is your proof for this?

Kobojunkie:
Where they not conceived/created?

Okay, so can you now answer the previous question I asked you?

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Please answer my question succinctly sir.

Kobojunkie:
Where they not conceived/created?

Thanks for your reply, but then, do unborn babies have souls?

Kobojunkie:
The Scriptural context has it that the soul already exists within from the moment one is conceived --- God created man(mind, body, and soul intact) from the clay of this world, and then animated man(mind, body, and soul already intact) using His breath of Life.

So where does this idea that the soul enters into a child from the creator of the souls chamber come from?.

Hahahahaha, Bros you suppose dey do comedy walahi

Ynix:
The soul is in the blood of the man that enters the whole of the woman. He shoots his blood (semen) at the egg of the woman to reproduce himself

Edify me sir

cornelboy:
Do you know what conception mean?

So you are saying unborn babies have no soul ie.(souless) until after birth?

saintopus:
SOUL enters the body at birth. This is the point the baby takes it's first breath.
" ...and the Lord God breath on the body, and it became a living soul..."

So are you telling me that blastocyst, embryo, or even fetus have no soul in them?

cornelboy:
What I know is that a soul is a complete being.
So I would say a person is a soul the moment he starts living. Right from conception.

I'm neither a Xtian nor a Religious person Boss.

achorladey:
Your Bible is not a science textbook you will not get one scripture that says what stage a soul enter the unborn child.

Hahahaha, hilarious

Boss, u've really made my day with your comment below

Okay, answer the below questions:

1.) The soul enters where before it gets to the egg stage?

2.) How did you come up with this your assertion sir?

Ynix:
The soul enters before it gets to the egg during sex

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not used to all these terms but the soul is an embryo. Once implanted whoever terminates it is guilty of murder from God's viewpoint:

“If men should struggle with each other and they hurt a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but no fatality results, the offender must pay the damages imposed on him by the husband of the woman; and he must pay it through the judges. But if a fatality does occur, then you must give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, blow for blow. Deuteronomy 21:22-25

The embryo is a SOUL whatever affects it is of serious concern to God!

So how do you know embryo is a SOUL?

From the creator of souls chamber

Kobojunkie:
A soul enters an unborn child from where?