Yusuf54:
...Thks Man,Do u believe in all what was written in the Bible ?

My answer is Yes, i do believe in all what is written in the Bible since i now understand its only when God's Spirit reveals the word in the bible to you,you truly have received the power to live in that revelation.Its just a book actually, anyone can read it but since its inspired by God, deriving fruits from reading has more impact when you're a believer in Christ Jesus- but God still moves in people's heart to save them when they read though they're not believers.
Sometime ago, it was pretty hard to believe in most of them. But now understanding somethings in life and personal experiences i have gone through i now know that i'm truly from Father God and that i don't see some of these things physically is a reminder that everything u see is temporal and what you don't see is eternal-thereby it has more impact. When you desire something to be seen/manifest, its only by understanding that one can actually exercise his faith to manifest God's power. We're not just believers in Christ Jesus, but we're meant to manifest God's wisdom &power on earth.
The wickedness of people actually reminds me of how truly powerful God is because of what He is doing in me- He wants people to come back in relationship with him, our Father, and don't come to him with fear/intimidation because He loves us all. Tendency to wickedness/evil has gripped many people's hearts in a grave manner, and that's why God's interest is in sincere willingness without fear/intimidation for people to know& understand who they are and who He is to them &what He has done about any barrier to His relating with us, not what we have done.

yahmohy27:
Hear yourself ,jesus was human ..but you guys him ,,your God

Yahmohy27, reviewing from the scripture book of John chapter 1: 1 - 14 should give some light into your statement. Without God being in flesh, there was no way God could be justified to make many people righteous, Hebrews 2: 11-15. Wisdom and power belongs to Him and He has adopted us into Himself through Christ Jesus so we are justified to talk and relate to Him personally without fear/ intimidation because He first loved us and still loves us more than we actually imagine which is why He did what He in Christ Jesus.
Sorry i don't do much quotation from scripture, but i give reference areas for further understanding of the subject matter. My earlier discussions in this forum brings some light into why God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Romans 5:5 explains that the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit &Romans 8:39 adds that the love of God is in Christ Jesus. This explains 2 Corinthians 13:14,"The grace of our lord Jesus, the love f God &the communion of the Holy Spirit..............."

Kbraims:
Him having a limited time doesn't explain d fact dat he started it clearly dat he was sent to a particular set of people...because d statement is crystal clear.The fact u're bringing up does not add up rather u're tryn to reframe d verse.These reminds me of an interview wit an american professor theologist.He said: The origin of contradiction started wen d top eminent bible scholars startd feeling som verse in d bible nids to b reframe.please once d message is stated jst work wit d facts...

You said the statement is crystal clear, i did not refute or contradict that verse. If you look into the scripture, it will portray to you a line which are all still explained from the relevance of the jews, the laws , the grace of God and salvation for mankind. You said work with facts, that same statement of Jesus should be followed through with His continuous message- the grace of God & His message follows with each other! Be sincere and see what i said but don't bring in so-called eminent bible scholars because the life of Jesus believer's is spiritual not filled with contradictions which breeds only tension & confusion.

Kbraims:
Mathew15:24 (But he answered and said, I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.)
An unambiguous statement stated by Jesus.
If he was sent to the lost sheep of israel wat abt d rest of the world...Wat can you say abt dis?

Jesus was very much aware he was in limited time-zone:meaning he was a human. So he could only reach out to His biological root and bring them together, besides the Jews had very odd & strict law-abiding lives they were living- though Jesus was exceptional in keeping to the laws (John 8:1-10). But after his death and resurrection, he told his disciplines in scripture Acts of the Apostles 1:7-9, to go first to the jews then to the ends of the earth. Of course, Jesus knew his disciples were still growing to understand that He is reaching the whole world that is why Paul conversion occured - Acts 9: 1- 19. Even God had to show Peter a vision in Acts 10: 1-30, before Peter understood that though a jew does this things in Acts 10:28, God does not want that!
From scripture of 1 Corinthians 15:44 - 49, the same principle Jesus carried out! the Jews are a natural body of His, but there is also the spiritual which is what God is truly looking for in scripture book of John 4: 23-24

Yusuf54:
...During the life time of Jesus Christ on earth,The Only Religion that was Practiced in His life tym was JUDAISM,Christianity came into existence 30years after Jesus had been raised to Heaven...Moses and Malachi Prophecied the coming of Jesus as a Prophet of God But when he started his Ministry at the age of 30,In MATTHEW 16 VS 20,He commanded his disciples not to tell anyone that He is the Christ which means Messiah Becos he knew some People would tried to eliminate him,and Jesus didn't even know that Some Jews had already knew he was the said Prophet of God Prophecied by Moses according to JOHN 6 VS 14-15,But the JEWS didn't accept Jesus as a Prophet of God becos they believed that Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is Inhabited by majority of the world Jews,and in Deuteronomy 13 vs 1-5,WHICH SAYS IF A PROPHET ARISES AMONG YOU AND GIVE YOU A SIGN OR A WONDER LIKE JESUS DID AND THE SIGN OR WONDER WHICH HE TELLS YOU COMES TO PASS,YOU SHALL NOT LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF THAT PROPHET,BUT THAT PROPHET SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH....old testament was written before the existence of Jesus while new testament was written after Jesus had rised to heaven

Yusuf, what you have said is correct. The Jews just did what any religiously-minded population would do- kill the blasphemous one!! From scripture book of John 8: 1 - 11, when a woman was caught in the act of adultery, they knew the laws but they still wanted to try Jesus. What the Jews didn't understand was the laws cannot save anyone but only keeps remembrance of bad, and Jesus knew they were still under the laws that's why he unveiled just a little of the true law to them: 'if you are without sin cast the first stone'! Throughout scripture book of Hebrews chapter 8,9 and 10, a lot of comparison was made from laws and Jesus, the right standing with God under the law was not sustainable that is why God intervened through Christ to redeem mankind-2 Corinthians 3: 7-11! Don't get me wrong, the law is pure but man's fleshy nature has not got that high in standard yet&God knows that,which is why its an inner working He is doing in us, through his unvieling in Christ Jesus!...... 1 John 4:17 reveals a truth that is correct but in living with that truth one must accept other level of truth!

dankol:


Sir, my inner mind agrees with logic and common sense and it says, religion is a haox

The real issue is what exactly is religion? Before God the Father, here is what pure religion is in James 1 :26 -27. Man believes his many deeds are what makes him religious, but your religious deeds shouldn't even be mentioned because its to your Father not to man- to man you are to express love , truth & grace.
And especially as God moves your heart you operate in love, truth & grace. If these actions are done with deceptive motives, its only the person that is deceiving his heart, his not deceiving God.

oladoja1:

bro word of God was that he said Jesus should be and he was jst like Adam was created that was the Quran indicated and even in the book of psalm

You right Oladoja. To add to what you have said from the bible in 1 Corinthians chapter 15:35-48, Adam is referred to as a the first man, a living being, but the last Adam, Jesus, is referred to as a life-giving spirit! It's actually an inner glory that God has restored through Jesus because whether anyone knows it or not, Jesus has died for mankind but to all that receive this truth its unveils inside them (scripture book of John 1:1 - 17). The last day that both Muslims, christians &those that pursue religion are expecting would more or less be the revelation/outward revealing of what glory (or kind of glory, whether evil or good) you have actually received inside you - truly it is 'Christ in you, your hope of glory" from scripture book of Colossians 1:27!

Yusuf54:
...DO U REALLY KNOW THE REAL REASON WHY JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED?

Please enlighten me because we are all learning!

abosaid:
To the light or to the darkness? where you can't even identify your God whom you are worship, is it one two or three? is it Jesus , holy spirit or Almighty God? where you have many bibles and you can't identify the original one whether it is the one with 68 chapters or 73 chapter.
assuming I want to accept Christianity which one should I join? is it celestial, Catholic, 7 days Adventist, CAC, cherubim, or others

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Abosaid, please don't follow any of the above doctrines from any church group. Find out who you are and what Christ Jesus is to you! In your search for truth, God would lead you to fellowship with brethren that would be of help. God is good! God is love! and He is expressed in his Application of coming in flesh, in Christ Jesus, to identify with man & lift mankind to His true love relationship with Him, God our Father, without fear or intimidation. And His Spirit constantly leads us to what God our Father has accomplished for us in Christ Jesus!

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Koran, from what i understand, talks about Jesus, relating him as the Word of God- this information i gathered from a former Muslim addict. Then if Jesus is the Word of God, why don't Muslims accept Him as Lord and Saviour because Mohammed was only a prophet? But rather Muslims prefer to kill anyone that blasphemes against a mere man called Prophet Mohammad when Jesus is still God's word? Are there any christians that would kill anyone that talks rubbish about Prophet Elijah, Elisha etc, who to me were truly great Prophets for all ages?..No, because they are all men and its only the Devil that moves people heart in the realm of men killing for another mere man/prophet!! It's a misdirection that Imam enforce, or better still, since the spiritual controls the physical, the devil enforces the bloodlust and anger over any words against just the mere man/prophet of /Islam: please personally research and understand who Jesus Christ really is- get the revelation now!
I am not being disrespectful of anyone's religion but i seek to reveal why anger/bloodlust is in some Muslims' heart though they say peace but there're operating in a realm that is easily manipulated by the devil since they seek to maim/kill anyone that says anything bad about their prophet.
When the Jews wanted to kill Jesus for saying He&God are one, that was blasphemy those days, Jesus told them they're doing like their father the devi-reference Book of John chapt 8: 31-57. Then my Muslims friends, what will the 'Word of God' say to you when you harbour the murderous tendency in your heart when someone speaks carelessly about your Prophet? You may not do any killing like other fanatics but for the notion to be harboured in your heart, according to the 'Word of God' you have actually committed murder!!

We all know John 3:16 and many more powerful knowledge that was revealed in the bible. My Lord and Saviour said 'you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free'! Remember in Acts of the Apostles ( acts 19:21-34) when Paul spoilt the business of merchants who crafted different statues for respective religious worshipers. What i see here is just what would make Paul say this in Acts 17:16-30. Paul added in Acts 17: 27&28 that God is not far from us, because its in him we live and move and have our being.

NO object that can be seen should EVER be given such reverential adoration because that's exactly what gives the ancient serpent the opportunity to confuse children of God. Even the brazen snake God instructed Moses to make became a reverential adoration object (2 Kings 18:4) which was just so wrong!! Then imagine a statue or figure made by just a business man, needing profit not like Moses that made it to save people, showing something odd and it's seen as anything special. The problem is the existing statue/figure adoration/worship urge that makes Christians, especially my Catholic bros&sisters, to welcome such notion. It's actually so WRONG & only welcomes the ancient serpent to play on the hearts and minds of such people because they need to see something to adore which is not what God has called you to recognize.
As Jesus told the Samaritan woman on the well, God desires TRUE worshipers who would worship in spirit and truth, not just by going to the temple in Jerusalem and be satisfied that you're worshiping God.Some could be doing adoration/worshiping but in relationship to what Jesus said could that be true worshiping?
Please the Bible is only relevant as we are living on the earth, so don't take just the words of the POPE, General Overseer or Guru Maharaji etc, take the Bible and receive God's word into You- You shall KNOW the truth and the Truth, YOU KNOW, shall set you FREE!

I understand how many of us have grown up and been given a God who is so willing to kill us at any mistake we make. It's a sad truth that everyone has their own perspectives and more sadly enough its "the truth...." you know "that would set you free" into whatever you choose to believe. But you must believe something; atheist, agnostics, believers etc. Either you choose or you choose not to believe, its all still a choice that every human enjoy. It's has and always would be a free world. The universe and creation is all innocent, but its always man and his perverted concepts that makes everyone to blame God. Even contract law puts a bad incidents as "an act of God", just because the concept is God should always come and perform when actually the earth has been given to man. But man cannot live forever in the human body- therefore, a direction is needed, just the way a baby is born and a mother and father aids in growing that child. Man's knowledge is still infinitely little in comprehending what or who the creator of things truly is. Don't be deceived by people but rather communicate with your Heavenly Father who is Spirit and wants you to pour your heart to him and not to a man that seeks to take advantage of you. The Father of all spirits truly loves all mankind, but as Cain killed Abel without wanting to pour his grievance and learn from God himself, it is hugely important to grow in your communication and fellowship with Him personally and He would direct you just the way our mothers had us and helped in directing us.
In the whole gospels, most people that claim to believe in God forget that Jesus Christ came to reveal Him as our Father, who loves us dearly that was why a "divine re-incarnation of Himself" as Jesus Christ, the Word of God, had to be made possible. Everyone needs only believe.
When you hustle and work, make sure you keep gratitude in your heart because if you're troubled while working then "Christ in U" may be directing you to something. Listen to your inner man,your own spirit, as it receive direction from your Heavenly Father, who is also a Spirit.

Everyone here, no matter your tribe, knows quite well that you have some evil friends of your own tribe and some great friends from other tribes and vice versa, so my big question is why are some people here so tribalistic - it's really sad and hypocritical as well. In America, there's the complaint of racism because of the skin complexions, but in Africa we're all Nigerians! But as to why some of us perpetuate so much hatred in our speeches and words about other tribe is just so evil- it's analogous to being the 'devil' who hates love and unity amongst nations of people.
Please let's post words that propagate understanding and wisdom and not baseless hatred speeches- except you want to embrace the ideals of Adolf Hitler, but if not please restraint your frustrations with respect to other tribes and use the right words in your discussions and not the "devil-like" words that propagates pure hatred and evil.
God bless all of us Nigerians and May we all yield to God's love and wisdom to prevail in this current national economic situation.

Evidently what I have said in the earlier post of the murder, that some elements of blood-thirsty Muslims are still ready to kill again. If only the security force in the North is trained to remove religiosity from its mind so as to effectively prosecute murderers, whether na socio-pathic killers hiding in Islam or alhaji, a killer should be dealt with regardless of religion.

The security outfits said they have the prime suspects, but what if the crowd of people are still prime suspects because they were willing to observe and encourage the killing throughout. Similar to how Paul in the Bible didn't carry stone to kill Stephen but by keeping watch of the clothes of the killers,he had indirectly supported the act.

Sharia law is not the answer to curtail this bloodlust but let the good-hearted Muslims rather push the security to be more pro-active to protect lives-because whether Christians or Muslims or Shites etc, we all share the fate of humanity, so let's love one another as we love ourselves regardless of religion. Once again Sharia law is not the answer to this bloodlust,but sincere love for one another.

Evidently what I have said in the earlier post of the murder, that some elements of blood-thirsty Muslims are still ready to kill again. If only the security force in the North is trained to remove religiosity from its mind so as to effectively prosecute murderers, whether na socio-pathic killers hiding in Islam or alhaji, a killer should be dealt with regardless of religion.
The security outfits said they have the prime suspects, but what if the crowd of people are still prime suspects because they were willing to observe and encourage the killing throughout. Similar to how Paul in the Bible didn't carry stone to kill Stephen but by keeping watch of the clothes of the killers,he had indirectly supported the act. Sharia law is not the answer to curtail these bloodlust but let the good-hearted Muslims rather push the security to be more pro-active to protect lives-because whether Christians or Muslims or Shites etc, we all share the fate of humanity, so let's love one another as we love ourselves regardless of religion. Once again Sharia law is not the answer to this bloodlust,but sincere love for one another.

This is truly sad. Citizens rights are abused by the country security outfits but the herdsmen have the prerogative of a whole country government searching different laws to protect their right!!.God please save this country.

@Dankol
Sincerity and honesty is a very important aspect of someone who seeks the truth, and you are very right on the religious hoax of our society. If only most believers could be more sincere than following the dogmatic views of just a figure-head the church, i mean believers would experience true revival. Christ in us is our certainty/hope of glory, which is why our growing communion with the word of God through the sincerity of our heart would enable us live the true Christ life (Ecclesiastic 3:11). Our confidence is that the relationship is now with our Father who kept the mysteries in Christ Jesus for this time as we live in now. The complete man and God, Christ Jesus, is as we are even as we are as him(to all who believe in His redemption for their souls) ..1 John 4: 17.

I understand how many of us have grown up and been given a God who is so willing to kill us at any mistake we make. It's a sad truth that everyone has their own perspectives and more sadly enough its "the truth...." you know "that would set you free" into whatever you choose to believe. But you must believe something; atheist, agnostics, believers etc. Either you choose or you choose not to believe, its all still a choice that every human enjoy. It's has and always would be a free world. The universe and creation is all innocent, but its always man and his perverted concepts that makes everyone to blame God. Even contract law puts a bad incidents as "an act of God", just because the concept is God should always come and perform when actually the earth has been given to man. But man cannot live forever in the human body- therefore, a direction is needed, just the way a baby is born and a mother and father aids in growing that child. Man's knowledge is still infinitely little in comprehending what or who the creator of things truly is. Don't be deceived by people but rather communicate with your Heavenly Father who is Spirit and wants you to pour your heart to him and not to a man that seeks to take advantage of you. The Father of all spirits truly loves all mankind, but as Cain killed Abel without wanting to pour his grievance and learn from God himself, it is hugely important to grow in your communication and fellowship with Him personally and He would direct you just the way our mothers had us and helped in directing us.

In the whole gospels, most people that claim to believe in God forget that Jesus Christ came to reveal Him as our Father, who loves us dearly that was why a "divine re-incarnation of Himself" as Jesus Christ, the Word of God, had to be made possible. Everyone only needs to believe this.

When you hustle and work, make sure you keep gratitude in your heart because if you're troubled while working then "Christ in U" may be directing you to something. Listen to your inner man,your own spirit, as it receive direction from your Heavenly Father, who is also a Spirit.

I understand how many of us have grown up and been given a God who is so willing to kill us at any mistake we make. It's a sad truth that everyone has their own perspectives and more sadly enough its "the truth...." you know "that would set you free" into whatever you choose to believe. But you must believe something; atheist, agnostics, believers etc. Either you choose or you choose not to believe, its all still a choice that every human enjoy. It's has and always would be a free world. The universe and creation is all innocent, but its always man and his perverted concepts that makes everyone to blame God. Even contract law puts a bad incidents as "an act of God", just because the concept is God should always come and perform when actually the earth has been given to man. But man cannot live forever in the human body- therefore, a direction is needed, just the way a baby is born and a mother and father aids in growing that child. Man's knowledge is still infinitely little in comprehending what or who the creator of things truly is. Don't be deceived by people but rather communicate with your Heavenly Father who is Spirit and wants you to pour your heart to him and not to a man that seeks to take advantage of you. The Father of all spirits truly loves all mankind, but as Cain killed Abel without wanting to pour his grievance and learn from God himself, it is hugely important to grow in your communication and fellowship with Him personally and He would direct you just the way our mothers had us and helped in directing us.
In the whole gospels, most people that claim to believe in God forget that Jesus Christ came to reveal Him as our Father, who loves us dearly that was why a "divine re-incarnation of Himself" as Jesus Christ, the Word of God, had to be made possible. Everyone needs only believe.
When you hustle and work, make sure you keep gratitude in your heart because if you're troubled while working then "Christ in U" may be directing you to something. Listen to your inner man,your own spirit, as it receive direction from your Heavenly Father, who is also a Spirit.