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chukel:My man, Ihedioha was the INCUMBENT who had been there 7 months. There is a reason the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can connive with INEC or cook up something and no elected official will be safe. Ihedioha didn’t go to court to be declared gov. If he had gone to court with questionable results to be declared gov, the right thing would have been to laugh him out of court because precedents are set with court judgments. Consider the precedent set here, a person that comes 10th can easily be declared winner and immediately sworn in. All they’d have to do is present result sheets, then the Supreme Court MUST accept them no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals! WOW!!! The thing is, folks like u seem incapable of seeing the big picture. This is a case that strikes at the very core of what type of country we may end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE ON TECHNICALITIES OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Consider Bush vs. Gore, for example. The Supreme Court could have gone technical, instead they not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of the actual original votes! NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, seismic decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make their country a one-party state! They are removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant himself. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters!! |
garfield1:Can u people ever manage to see beyond your immediate short-term advantage?! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR SUPPORTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS! Read the following. Even if u r semi-illiterate u should be able to comprehend it: “The Guardian obtained a certified-true-copy of the record of the appeal filed at the Supreme Court by Uzodinma and APC... which shows that there were mathematical and factual inconsistencies which the apex court ignored... For instance, on figure number 69 which shows votes cast at Eziama/Okpala (Umualum Village Square, Eziama), the total number of registered voters was 492, whereas the table shows that the APC scored 819 votes and PDP scored 7 votes, meaning that 334 more votes than the registered voters were recorded, apart from the votes polled by the other candidates at the election that were not shown on the table. Similarly, on page 22 of the petition referencing polling unit 282, the number of registered voters was put at 591, whereas the tabulation shows that APC polled 586 votes and PDP nine votes, indicating a total of four votes higher than the registered number of voters. This, again, excluded the votes scored by the other candidates. On the same page 22 of the record, at the polling unit 285 (Obudi/Aro, Central Assembly Square, Unusable 11) with 449 registered voters, APC was credited with 780 votes and PDP with four votes, leaving a total of 335 votes higher than the actual number of registered voters. Figures obtained from page 79 of the record of appeal under item 384 show that APC scored 526 votes, while PDP was credited with two votes, and the total votes cast was put at 526, indicating two votes higher than the total number registered voters in the area.”[/b] |
garfield1:Atiku and Buhari were first and second. None of them came fourth, then SC used documents with 200% voter turn-outs (which INEC swore were fake) to install them in office! |
Kuginzi:There is NO COMPARISON between this and Zamfara! In Zamfara the SC simply affirmed what everybody knew - that APC never held a primary - which was the absolute truth! Look, bros, I don’t know who these people are and I don’t care one whit about Ihedioha, but this SC judgment goes waaayyyy beyond anything reasonable. Consider the precedent set, a person that comes 10th can easily be declared winner and immediately sworn in. All they’d have to do is present result sheets, then the Supreme Court MUST accept them no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals! WOW!!! The thing is, folks like u seem incapable of seeing the big picture. If this were just another case u may be forgiven. But this is a case that strikes at the very core of what type of country we may end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE ON TECHNICALITIES OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Consider Bush vs. Gore, for example. The Supreme Court could have gone technical, instead they not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of the actual original votes! NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, seismic decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make their country a one-party state! They are removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant himself. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters! |
Confirmedzombie: Kuginzi:Why don’t you mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the electoral authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where that has ever happened. YOU CAN’T! You know why? Because the bar for removing an incumbent is high otherwise most, including a Buhari, would lose their seats (because anyone can come up with electoral errors or even forge some - as in this case!). It should be nearly impossible to replace a sitting gov with a 4th-place finisher. If at all attempted, the evidence should be CLEAR, ABOVE BOARD, BEYOND REPROACH, FULLY AUTHENTICATED AND WELL COLLABORATED! Not some childish documents with 200% voter turnouts! YOU DON’T BASE SUCH MOMENTOUS, SEISMIC DECISIONS ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, TECHNICALITIES, AND PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!! Understand? Or is that too complicated for u?! |
Olominira:None has died, stop lying. Make google yr friend. (Remember Iran said 80 were killed!) |
Knowing Americans, most of these brain injuries are AUDIO to get a leave to go home! If u know u know |
Miltonbit:Knowing Americans, most of these brain injuries are AUDIO to get a leave to go home! If u know u know |
Champneys:Click “modify” and remove the long article from your quote so people don’t have to scroll through it. Be considerate |
Blue3k:I honestly don’t care one whit either. I don’t know who these people are and their names mean absolutely nothing to me. I’d be saying the same exact things if the names were changed to Oluwole and Fashola! |
NGpatriot:Bros, just look at what u r supporting in a bid to win a meaningless argument on an anonymous, faceless forum! A clearly horrible judgment that sets dangerous precedent: A person that came 10th can easily be declared winner and immediately sworn in. All they’d have to do is present result sheets and the Supreme Court MUST accept them no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals! WOW!!! The thing is, u seem incapable of seeing the big picture. U r all about technicalities and pretending not to see what is actually happening. If this were just another case u may be forgiven. But this is a case strikes at the very core of what type of country we may end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE A CASE LIKE THIS ON TECHNICALITIES OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Consider Bush vs. Gore, for example. The Supreme Court not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of the actual original votes! NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, seismic decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make their country a one-party state! They are removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters! That is how it is done! And that is why you don’t have an abundance of judgments like this! |
NGpatriot:Why don’t you mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the electoral authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where that has ever happened. YOU CAN’T! You know why? Because the bar for removing an incumbent is placed very high otherwise most, including a Buhari, would lose their seats (because anyone can come up with electoral errors or even forge some - as in this case!). It should be nearly impossible to replace a sitting gov with a 4th-place finisher. If at all attempted, the evidence should be CLEAR, ABOVE BOARD, BEYOND REPROACH, FULLY AUTHENTICATED AND WELL COLLABORATED! Not some childish documents with 200% voter turnouts! YOU DON’T BASE SUCH MOMENTOUS, SEISMIC DECISIONS ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, TECHNICALITIES, AND PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!! Capisce? |
adanny01:If that’s the case then judgments like this should abound: Mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against all lower courts AND INEC itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where that has ever happened! Look, there are always errors in elections, that’s why the bar for removing an incumbent needs to be placed very high otherwise most, including a Buhari, would lose their seats (because anyone can come up with electoral errors or forge some - as in this case!). It should be nearly impossible to replace a sitting gov with a 4th-place finisher. If at all attempted, the evidence should be CLEAR, ABOVE BOARD, BEYOND REPROACH, FULLY AUTHENTICATED AND WELL COLLABORATED! Not some childish documents with 200% turnouts! YOU DON’T BASE SUCH MOMENTOUS, SEISMIC DECISIONS ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS!! Capisce? |
garfield1:Now u r getting close. ALL ELECTIONS HAVE ERRORS. That’s why you have to keep the bar for removing an incumbent very high. Otherwise if u allow anyone who comes up with electoral errors or who forges some (as in this case), no one would keep his seat. That’s why, to replace an incumbent with a 4th-place appellant needs to be just about impossible. Needs to be backed by above board, beyond reproach documentary and otherwise evidence, with multiple layers of authentication. Capisce? |
garfield1:Seems like u r the one new to it. Otherwise u wouldn’t have said throw out only the 6 units that have +100%. That is so childish. You should have been able to deduced that all the units have unrealistic turnouts. That ALL the figures are compromised. |
Agboriotejoye:Not only that, turnout rarely exceeds 60%. That all the units recorded close to 100% turnout or more tells us how those numbers were obtained. garfield1 try to forget this particular case, focus instead on where the country would end up if this were allowed to continue |
garfield1:We are talking of the trajectory of the country and this one is talking about Ihedioha. Who the hell is Ohedioha?! People are so myopic! Can’t u manage to see beyond just the immediate?! YOU DON’T MAKE SUCH MOMENTOUS, SEISMIC DECISIONS BASED ON SUCH DOCUMENTS!! Capisce? |
zoedew, bluefilmThis judgment is even worse than thought. Guardian obtained a copy of Uzodinma’s appeal. Read it below. This is the SOLE basis for prompt replacement of a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher! This is the judgment some people are spending sleepless nights defending as great. YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES! “The Guardian obtained a certified-true-copy of the record of the appeal filed at the Supreme Court by Uzodinma and APC... which shows that there were mathematical and factual inconsistencies which the apex court ignored. In the records tendered at the tribunal, Uzodinma, from pages 9 to 27 of his petition, drew a table of votes allocation which he claimed were the figures obtained from the duplicate copies of Forms EC8A handed over to his party agents at the 388 polling units, the results of which were excluded in the overall result of the election. From the table he compiled from the 388 polling units, there were 252,452 registered voters, out of which 213,695 voted for APC, and 1,903 voted for Ihedioha. But the table does not indicate either the total number of accredited voters or the number of invalid votes, if any, and the votes allocated to the remaining 68 candidates that contested the election, aside from Uzodinma and Ihedioha. Also, the duplicate Forms EC8A tendered by the PW54, Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP), Rabiu Hussein, showed that there were no fewer than six polling units where more votes were recorded above the registered number of voters. For instance, on figure number 69 which shows votes cast at Eziama/Okpala (Umualum Village Square, Eziama), the total number of registered voters was 492, whereas the table shows that the APC scored 819 votes and PDP scored 7 votes, meaning that 334 more votes than the registered voters were recorded, apart from the votes polled by the other candidates at the election that were not shown on the table. Similarly, on page 22 of the petition referencing polling unit 282, the number of registered voters was put at 591, whereas the tabulation shows that APC polled 586 votes and PDP nine votes, indicating a total of four votes higher than the registered number of voters. This, again, excluded the votes scored by the other candidates. On the same page 22 of the record, at the polling unit 285 (Obudi/Aro, Central Assembly Square, Unusable 11) with 449 registered voters, APC was credited with 780 votes and PDP with four votes, leaving a total of 335 votes higher than the actual number of registered voters. Figures obtained from page 79 of the record of appeal under item 384 show that APC scored 526 votes, while PDP was credited with two votes, and the total votes cast was put at 526, indicating two votes higher than the total number registered voters in the area.” |
pquaver, garfield1, Blindersoff, Olaolufred, Agboriotejoye This judgment is even worse than thought. Guardian obtained a copy of Uzodinma’s appeal. Read it below. This is the SOLE basis for prompt replacement of a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher. This is the judgment some people are spending sleepless nights defending as great. YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES! “The Guardian obtained a certified-true-copy of the record of the appeal filed at the Supreme Court by Uzodinma and APC... which shows that there were mathematical and factual inconsistencies which the apex court ignored. In the records tendered at the tribunal, Uzodinma, from pages 9 to 27 of his petition, drew a table of votes allocation which he claimed were the figures obtained from the duplicate copies of Forms EC8A handed over to his party agents at the 388 polling units, the results of which were excluded in the overall result of the election. From the table he compiled from the 388 polling units, there were 252,452 registered voters, out of which 213,695 voted for APC, and 1,903 voted for Ihedioha. But the table does not indicate either the total number of accredited voters or the number of invalid votes, if any, and the votes allocated to the remaining 68 candidates that contested the election, aside from Uzodinma and Ihedioha. Also, the duplicate Forms EC8A tendered by the PW54, Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP), Rabiu Hussein, showed that there were no fewer than six polling units where more votes were recorded above the registered number of voters. For instance, on figure number 69 which shows votes cast at Eziama/Okpala (Umualum Village Square, Eziama), the total number of registered voters was 492, whereas the table shows that the APC scored 819 votes and PDP scored 7 votes, meaning that 334 more votes than the registered voters were recorded, apart from the votes polled by the other candidates at the election that were not shown on the table. Similarly, on page 22 of the petition referencing polling unit 282, the number of registered voters was put at 591, whereas the tabulation shows that APC polled 586 votes and PDP nine votes, indicating a total of four votes higher than the registered number of voters. This, again, excluded the votes scored by the other candidates. On the same page 22 of the record, at the polling unit 285 (Obudi/Aro, Central Assembly Square, Unusable 11) with 449 registered voters, APC was credited with 780 votes and PDP with four votes, leaving a total of 335 votes higher than the actual number of registered voters. Figures obtained from page 79 of the record of appeal under item 384 show that APC scored 526 votes, while PDP was credited with two votes, and the total votes cast was put at 526, indicating two votes higher than the total number registered voters in the area.” |
Agboriotejoye:You said it all. In conclusion, my challenge stands: Mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against all lower courts AND INEC itself in order to immediately replace a seating governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where that has ever happened! |
Olaolufred:To be clear, I am totally unbiased. I neither know nor like Ihedioha nor am I from anywhere near Imo state. The thing is, u r not looking at the big picture. U r all about technicalities and pretending not to see what is actually happening. If this were just another case u might have a point. The thing is, a case like this is different - it strikes at the very core of what type of country we may end up becoming. This is not a case u decide on technicalities or pretending not to see what is right in front of you. In Bush vs. Gore, for example, Supreme Court not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a recount of the actual original votes! NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, seismic decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make it a one-party state! They are removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters. That, or they are setting a precedent that will gradually slide the country into a one-party state! |
garfield1:I am totally unbiased. I neither know nor like Ihedioha nor am I from anywhere near Imo state. See, if this were just another case u might have a point. A case like this is different - it strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming. This is not a case u decide on technicalities or pretending not to see what is right in front of you. In Bush vs. Gore Supreme Court not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a recount of the actual original votes! NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, seismic decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make it a one-party state! They are removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters. That, or they are setting a precedent that will gradually slide the country into a one-party state! |
jimmynauty:They refused to examine any of the documents at all despite obvious defects, neither did they consider that adding the figures therein made for impossible electoral totals. |
allthingsgood:Look at this one. We are talking of the future of his country and he is stuck on Imo state! |
garfield1:Are u being intentionally dishonest or is it that u don’t know the details of ”ajasin vs omoboriowo“? In that case SC upheld the lower courts. Not only that, there is hardly a comparison between the two scenarios. Here is a Guardian report (note the bolded): ”On 16th of August, 1983, Akin Omoboriowo was declared winner by the Federal Electoral Commission (FEDECO). The impact of the declaration was immediate as allegations of vote rigging using “federal might” ensured that violence erupted in various parts of Ondo state. Some reports claimed that the outbreak of violence was the worst in the history of post-independence Yorubaland, exceeding according to at least one newspaper, the “Wet è” riots of the 1960s. The Oyo Police Commissioner, Umaru Omolowo, who was in charge of security, announced that at least 40 people were killed in Ondo, including two NPN congressional candidates, Olaiya Fagbamigbe and Kunle Agunbiade, who were set ablaze, according to Omolowo, by an angry mob... The whole thing was challenged in court, and a panel of five judges of the Federal High Court sitting in Akure reversed the election results and awarded victory to Ajasin. The case was appealed by Omoboriowo, and four of the five Court of Appeal judges that sat in Benin City returned a verdict in Ajasin’s favour. At the Supreme Court, only one judge, Ayo Irikefe, dissented, and so Adekunle Ajasin was declared governor of Ondo state for a second term.“ So the challenge stands: Mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against all lower courts AND INEC itself in order to immediately replace a seating governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the plaintiff himself!! Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where that happened! Also here is just a fraction of erros in the documents you say are minor! *Only APC signed the documents *Of the 70 parties only APC and PDP results were legible * Documents were incomplete * Smudges and alterations |
zoedew:QED Nice chatting witcha |
zoedew:That’s the whole point sir - PRECEDENT. The SC behavior here is unprecedented - which is why it sets a dangerous precedent all by itself. Mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against all lower courts AND INEC itself in other to immediately replace a seating governor with an appellant- all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the plaintiff himself!! The DOCUMENTS presented and right in front of the judges were faulty almost to the point of uselessness. Yet they did not see that because they didn’t want to - they refused to examine the documents, the sole basis for their momentous ruling! |
jimmynauty:Ordinarily u might have a point. But cases like these are different - they hit at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming. NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make it a one-party state! They are removing a gov and putting in another based solely on a set of documents. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters. That, or they are setting a precedent that will gradually slide the country into a one-party state! |
allthingsgood:Law may be law but cases like this are different. They hit at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming. NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make it a one-party state! They are removing a gov and putting in another based solely on a set of documents. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters. That, or they are setting a precedent that will gradually slide the country into a one-party state! |
zoedew:No sir, u r the one that don’t get it. This case hits at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming. NO MATTER WHAT, the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make it a one-party state! They are removing a gov and putting in another based solely on a set of documents. Regardless of what anyone else fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters. That, or they are setting a precedent that will gradually slide the country into a one-party state! |
jimmynauty:Let’s not forget the big picture! This hits at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming! This is a horrible judgment that sets dangerous precedent. A person that came 10th can easily be declared winner and IMMEDIATELY sworn into office. All they’d do is present result sheets and the Supreme Court MUST accept them no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals! That is what we are here mindlessly supporting! Can’t you people see that NO MATTER WHAT the SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! This is also their country and they ought care about it’s future, They have a DUTY to EXAMINE the appellant’s documents and decide wether they are up to par and wether the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters. That, or they are setting a precedent that will gradually slide the country into a one-party state! |
Froshloaded:I honestly like and admire the intelligence of your comment. That’s why I gave u the like |
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