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OtemAtum:
Do.

What is the issue with this

What’s is the issue??
Bros u r too much of a scientific illiterate to be writing science fiction. After the Big Bang the first tiny mammals appeared on earth 210 million years ago! (See below). Stop making a fool of yourself

Also have u forgotten u said when YHWH was here he was just another human with no god powers??

BTW what language did these gods speak - I see Igbo and Yoruba names

Guy stop making a fool of yourself (Earthus, Zeusus, you forgot moonus). What u r posting is PURE FICTION and not very good one at that. We all know it - u ain’t fooling nobody. Continue it if u enjoy writing it, otherwise find something better to do with your time.

Good luck.

OtemAtum:
Olumba Olumba of Nigeria came in his human form and he was worshipped as God Almighty and the people believed that he had power of God. Let's see how you get out of that one.

Atum of Egypt came in his human form and he was worshipped as God Almighty and the people believed that he had power of God. Let's see how you get out of that one.
s the TOTALITY OF EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE.[/b]

Bros, u don’t realize how ridiculous u sound. Do yo know the meaning of the word AFTERTHOUGHT?
Here is what YOU wrote:

“This earth is more like a game to the gods, the beings out there. They have formulated a principle NEVER to come physically to THIS world, but to send representatives”

Also what is your definition of “god” and what do gods benefit from being worshipped?

Here is what u said about YHWH whom u said had no god powers:

”While on earth he manifested ALL THE ATTRIBUTES of Yahweh whom he really was, for he killed many people who worked on the last day of the week, saying, it is evil against Yahweh. He killed also the worshipper of Sin, Baalim and Moloch in multitude, saying that they were abominable people.He also killed the blind, lame, hunch backed and all forms of disabled people, because he hated them from within.
35. He killed those who refused circumcision”

So a normal ordinary human did all that? See how ridiculous?

Also u yourself have gone from being human to now being a god . Notice how u refer to yourself below:

“The creator is the totality of existence. WE HUMANS are like the voice of God, but it's a great pity that from the origin of the world till date, WE HUMANS are being used by one god or the other to proclaim them as God Almighty”

Also look at what u wrote here - demonstrates scientific illiteracy:

“14. The creatures which resulted from the great bang were two millions in number, but only few of them were Homos(humanlike beings).

15. The Homos(beings) were very gigantic in stature. They were all males like us, except for Earthus.”

OtemAtum:
If you have read the book of Universal History, you will clearly understand everything. The Doctufos was divided into two, which are the past world and the present world. In the past world, Yahweh was here on earth in his gigantic physical form. He stayed for more than a billion years. In the present world, Yahweh was here in human form twice. He lived and died as a human.

After the first world, it became impossible for the gods to come in that gigantic physical form with which they came in the first form. So they could only come as humans. So when a god comes as humans and start saying that he is a god, it would take some extraordinary efforts for his human counterparts to see him as a god.

R u ok, sir? If u must make up stuff have the intelligence to be able to keep your story straight!

YHWH WAS HERE IN HIS HUMAN FORM YET WAS WORSHIPPED AS “GOD ALMIGHTY” AND HAD POWERS OF GOD!!

Let’s see how you get out of that one

OtemAtum:
Let me try to break it down to you in little chunks like a baby so that you can understand. Yahweh at creation is as tall as 4 storey building. He cannot come to the earth in that form anymore. But he can come to the earth as a human. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I will show you the stature of Yahweh when he was on earth in his god form billions of years back. That former physical appearance of Yahweh is what he cannot come with anymore, but to come as a human to the earth, he can always do that.

Adspiramen 5: 14, 15

14. The creatures which resulted from the great bang were two millions in number, but only few of them were Homos(humanlike beings).

15. The Homos(beings) were very gigantic in stature. They were all males like us, except for Earthus.


So from the embolden, it's obvious that I'm talking about this former physical appearance they have and not their physical human appearance at reincarnation. Just read up the book, you will understand everything I'm saying very well.

U lie.

Here is what u posted:

“This earth is more like a game to the gods, the beings out there. They have formulated a principle NEVER to come physically to this world, but to send representatives to make them known as God Almighty at different times. Then finally I Otem have to come to end the game and make it known to all the secrets of the earth.”

Also u say Yhwh was here in human form yet had all his powers intact and was worshipped as “god almighty”.
Which means other gods can do same. Which leads to the original question:

“So why don’t all those gods who want the truth known come out to mankind and declare the truth to them in a way there’d be no doubt. Why rely on lowly u whose priciest possession is a NL moniker?”

OtemAtum:
Let me try to break it down to you in little chunks like a baby so that you can understand. Yahweh at creation is as tall as 4 storey building. He cannot come to the earth in that form anymore. But he can come to the earth as a human. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I will show you the stature of Yahweh when he was on earth in his god form billions of years back. That former physical appearance of Yahweh is what he cannot come with anymore, but to come as a human to the earth, he can always do that.

Adspiramen 5: 14, 15

14. The creatures which resulted from the great bang were two millions in number, but only few of them were Homos(humanlike beings).

15. The Homos(beings) were very gigantic in stature. They were all males like us, except for Earthus.


So from the embolden, it's obvious that I'm talking about this former physical appearance they have and not their physical human appearance at reincarnation. Just read up the book, you will understand everything I'm saying very well.

Lol. Can’t u see u nailed yourself again.l?

Can’t u see u have brought it back to my original question that started u dancing around? Here it is again verbatim:

“So why don’t all those gods who want the truth known come out to mankind and declare the truth to them in a way there’d be no doubt. Why rely on lowly u whose priciest possession is a NL moniker?”

Your initial answer was that they couldn’t come physically. What is your answer now?

Also before u start forging things like this have at least a bit of knowledge of science so u don’t look like a total fool.

Find out how long Homo sapiens (that’s what science calls man) have been on earth. Also find out what type of life was around after the “great bang”

OtemAtum:
The gods can't come in god (superhuman) forms to the earth in the homo sapiens era, they have to come in forms of humans if any of them wants to come at all. Why do you think that I god Otem, am here in form of human today? Everything is in the Book of Universal History. It's better for you to read all up there. See the quotation below.

Eartum 42: 15- 17

15. And as for the gods or goddesses who do not want to be reincarnated into the planets of the outer universes, it shall take ages for such god to be able to locate any planet where he had once ruled over.
16. But if such one is willing to be present in such planet without any much stress, he or she shall pass through the realm of forgetfulness and be born as a homo(human) into that planet. And he shall be subject to every physical ordinance in that planet like every other homo(human) in it.
17. But I tell you the truth, in one way or the other, a reincarnated soul shall have edge over those who are being made into any of these planets for the first time. And these are they who shall make use of the words mostly, thereby bringing back the names of you gods to the planets.

Hahahaha! Ok, I get it, this is comedy. Sorry, I know it’s fiction but I mistakenly thought u were trying to pretend it is real.

Ok, so YHWH who can’t physically come to earth, still came to earth physically, then died physically. After living how many thousand years again, dear teacher?
At least u have a sense of humor

OtemAtum:
What you see here is what happened when Yahweh was living on the planet earth thousands of years back. When he died, he went into the spiritual realm, same as everyone who dies does. Death on earth means life in another realm. But currently, Yahweh is being made unconscious, being held in a spiritual cage by his godmates.

See how u just outed yourself:
You said YHWH WAS HERE PHYSICALLY!!

Compare that to what u said here:

This earth is more like a game to the gods, the beings out there. They have formulated a principle never to come physically to this world, but to send representatives to make them known as God Almighty at different times. Then finally I Otem have to come to end the game and make it known to all the secrets of the earth.

Hehehe. Let me see how u get out of this one

OtemAtum :

U posted the below, yet the same YHWH u say is dead is trapped in spiritual jail, and you’ve been discussing him as being alive - he is both alive and dead!!


36. Now mosheh(Yahweh) fell sick, so he went far from his land, saying, I shall not die where I shall be seen. So he cast himself in the red sea and died there, placing a tablet over his chest so that he could sink in the river. And on the tablet was written: I am YHWH, the God Almighty. 37. Then a man named Oshea found the corpse of mosheh (Yahweh) floating upon the river, because the tablet had rolled over and had sunken. And whene Oshea checked the body of the dead, he found also on it: I am Yahweh, the God Almighty.

sonmvayina:
Some people just don't want to wake up from their slumber.. Well I have tried.. Well everybody in their time..

Maybe not in this life.. Maybe next.. Or the one after.. But everyone must wake up..

But some of us are the ones awake, not u. It is like two people who have constant pain, they are given something that could be placebo that take away the pain (I say “could be” because they have no way of being sure). One realizes it could be placebo but also recognizes that it keeps him pain free. The other one also realizes it could be placebo, rejects it and goes back to being in severe pain. I ask u, who is more awake?

OtemAtum
Just as I suspected your totally fictitious gods are too shy to appear personally, rather they send u to post fiction on NL. I wonder who u think u fooling

OtemAtum
Answer my question and while u r at it see the definition of homosapien below and note they were scattered all over and never at any time worshipped one god as your fairy tale suggests

OtemAtum:
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Once again you didn’t answer the question:

Why don’t this Atom and those other gods who want the truth known come out to mankind and declare the truth to them in a way there’d be no doubt. Is it that they are shy or what. Why rely on lowly u whose priciest possession is an NL moniker?

BIG MISTAKE!! Suicide! Fatwa is already on head . With all these moslem terrorists craving their 72 virgins, she’s as good as dead!

OtemAtum:
It's like saying that CanadaOrBust gave birth to a child and told the child, "don't you dare eat that fruit!" Then CanadaOrBust's child ate the fruit. And that was the first time he disobeyed you, but you cursed him and sent him out of the house. And because of that, his children and descendants are in danger of being put in a fire forever and ever. How does that sound to you. If you cannot disown your child or send your child away from home forever for disobeying you three times, then it means you are more reasonable than your god and you need to do away with your god who seems to lack commonsense.

God can do whatever he pleases, he does not have human sensibilities. What will be illogical is if his creation kills him then his wife creates another god to marry!!

OtemAtum:
The CREATOR is not a humanlike being like Jehovah or Allah. The creator is the totality of existence. We humans are like the voice of God, but it's a great pity that from the origin of the world till date, we humans are being used by one god or the other to proclaim them as God Almighty, rather than recalling what God Almighty is exactly.
For example, some beings such as Enlil, Enki, Anu chose humans to call them God Almighty long ago. Later some other beings like El, Jehovah and Allah chose some people to regard them as God Almighty when they are just mere creatures of God Almighty. That's why we have thousands of stories about the supposed God Almighty all because they were picked by one being or the other to selfishly declare them as God Almighty rather than declaring exactly what God Almighty is.
God Almighty is actually the Totality of Existence and it is not a humanlike being. Now God Almighty doesn't even care about we humans knowing what it is or what it is not. It's Atum one of the brothers of Jehovah and Allah who cares so much for the world to know the truth once and for all, hence sending me to declare it. Atum, Olorun, Vishnu, Ra and many counterparts of Jehovah wanted this truth to be known by the world at this time so that the world will not continue to dwell in lies. Let me even tell you something, our current homo sapiens world has even existed for 282,019 years and it will still exist for more than a million years. So if the true beings want the truth of the UNIVERSE to come at this time, being the 282,019th year of the homo sapiens era, it is still a little fraction out of the more than 5 million years more years left for the homo sapiens to remain on this earth. It is not God Almighty that is occupied with me, it is Atum, the brother of Jehovah and many great beings of the past that are occupied with me. Left to God Almighty, it doesn't care whether human races( an insignificant fragment of existence) know the origin of the universes or not. But Atum, Olorun, Chukwu, Abassi, Nzame, Nyame, Ra, Vishnu, etc care to see humanities have a mind evolution and know the truth that none of them is God Almighty and to help us know how to channel our energies best.

Currently, Jehovah, Allah and thousands of beings who doesn't want this truth are caged spiritually and they shall remain caged for about 997 years more.
Peace.

So why don’t all those gods who want the true known come out to mankind and declare the truth to them in a way there’d be no doubt. Why rely on lowly u whose priciest possession is an NL moniker?

OtemAtum:
Just imagine saying that God created two beings Adam and Eve and for the very first time they disobeyed him, he rejected them and sent them out of his presence and later he regretted creating human, destroyed them with flood and eventually humans are in danger of being turned into everlasting fire. Lol. Is it this kind of story you call a logical story?

Jehovah your god must really be high on Edo weed to have really propagated this kind of philosophy. No wonder he and his colleagues were easily defeated and confined in a spiritual cage by the beings who support science.

Nothing in the story is illogical. It would be illogical if Adam killed God as in the infantile ancient story u direct people to go read

OtemAtum:
The creator is Mirosh. It is the TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE. Yahweh your god is created by the CREATOR and beyond that, nobody knows.
How did the CREATOR pick me of all people to reveal this? Well, Atum the brother of Yahweh is the one who chose me to do this and why is it me that was chosen of all people? It's a privilege. The same privilege enjoyed by Dangote to be the richest in Africa of all people. The same privilege enjoyed by Messi and Ronaldo to be the WORLD BEST FOOTBALLERS(the GOATs) of all people. The privilege enjoyed by Michael Jackson to be a very great musician.
God Almighty, the CREATOR of Yahweh doesn't give lottery, same way Yahweh, the created being didn't give lottery. Life doesn't run on the principle of the creator supplying you with lottery numbers, Bet9ja predictions, etc. In life, you do things with your own brain. It's a psycho physical world my brother. To massively propagate this message, I don't need to even know how to do a single MIRACLE. All I need to do is to WRITE down the message, die and go to my afterlife and then watch from there how in the future humans will start to be evolved in their minds after reading the true texts in them. I am not even in a hurry to see humans showing interest, because this revelation is suspposed to be massively considered starting from the year 2625. Peace.

Why doesn’t this creator appear here to all mankind and tell them he is the creator? Why does he have to rely on lowly you with an internet moniker on Seun’s NL? And why wait till 2625? And 1.5 million earths can fit in the sun. 200 billion suns in the galaxy, 100 billion galaxies in the universe, then there are likely infinite number of universes. Someone who created all that is preoccupied with u?!

Snowale:
more was said about the final prophet, Mohammed (PBUH), right from Moses(ASW), to Jesus(ASW), to Mohammed (SAW), they are blessed prophet with miracles, Just like Bible talks about all prophet before Jesus and also Jesus, the Qur'an talks about all that in the Bible and the new age.

During the time of Moses, No one goes to the father except true Moses(teachings), when Jesus came, no one goes to God except through him(Bible), then the final Messanger, today no one goes to God except through Prophet Mohammed teaching.

Well, a prophet greater than Muhammad said “I am not fit to tie his(Jesus) shoes.” So he is clearly more than a prophet. Also about 1700 years ago 318 people who spent all their lives studying the Bible gathered in Nicea and voted that Jesus and the Father are of one substance, one God in 3 persons. How can u and me know better 318 consummate Bible specialists

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OtemAtum:
The bible is trying to make one of the gods(Yahweh by name) to look like the Almighty God, but of sincerity, Yahweh is just one of them and he knows his creator. I know the creator of Yahweh too.

So who is the creator and who created the creator? And did u ask him how he picked u of all people to reveal this to? Also ask him to give u some numbers so u can win the lottery and make a few million bucks so you’d be able to massively propagate his message

tianshie:
I went to secondary school with Eze. His father, Thaddeus, fought in the Biafra war. What we know about his father's wartime experience is that the war ended for Thaddeus when he was wounded in Onitsha in 1968. He came home.

Recently a man from Eze's father's village who had fought the war with Thaddeus told my friend's mother (on the phone) that actually Thaddeus died in the war. This man had fled to Gabon after the war. He'd just returned to the country.

Since the news broke, Thaddeus hasn't been seen. He'd been in the bathroom when my friend's mother took the call on the phone. After the call, my friend and his mother could hear the splash of water in the bathroom, but when they opened the door there was no one there!

What advice do you have for the family? I've never heard sh*t like this before!!

Is it the same friend as in this your story below? I see u like literature:


I Will Attack My Father by tianshie(m): 3:23pm On Dec 27, 2017
My friend's father told him on Christmas eve, 3 days ago, that he planned to sell a prized property as restitution. What my friend told me: His father worked for John Holt, the British company, in the 1950's. The day after independence, in 1960, after the British left, his father stole 900 pounds from the company accounts and ran away. He invested the money through the years and became wealthy.

Now in his old age, my friend's father wants to sell his 9 storey building on Victoria Island, and give the money to St. Vincent's for the poor. Because he wants to die with a clear conscience.

Do you know of any similar stories of people who worked for UAC, other British businesses, who lived in British built houses, estates, and stole from the British as Nigeria gained independence? We aim to convince my friend's father that everybody else did this during independence, and not to beat himself up.

OtemAtum:
The bible is trying to make one of the gods(Yahweh by name) to look like the Almighty God, but of sincerity, Yahweh is just one of them and he knows his creator. I know the creator of Yahweh too.

They are all stories, but at least the Bible creation story is logical. Just imagine if the Bible says God and his wife created another god and that god defeated God and then God’s wife created other gods and married one of them! That’s the story u r directing people to!!

isthatso:
there are many people in Nigeria whose money is legit, it is not fair to tarnish the minority for the sins of the majority. In fact there are many old money millionaires who have fizzled out of the limelight simply because they refuse to join the come and chop wagon.

those who have managed to maintain generally keep a low profile. it is new money that tends to make noise of which probably 95% is crooked money because it is difficult to make money in Nigeria today doing things the right way.

I don’t agree. Except people that invent or develop things, it is/was not possible (especially in Nigeria) to accumulate great fortune without some illegality. Tell me how - whatever u r doing, there are a thousand others doing it especially if it is profitable

OtemAtum:
It existed a thousand years before the bible. It predated your bible, so it's something of interest. The bible copied its creation account. Go check that out.

That is ridiculous. Where in the Bible do u see gods creating gods and them fighting the gods they created and being defeated by gods they created. A totally childish, primitive, ridiculous story and u r directing people to it and comparing it with the Bible!!

OtemAtum:
See you now. U don't want to read the Enuma Elish, but you want everyone to see the bible(Greatest book of lies) as the true book. Hmm.

I can’t believe u and sonmvayina are referring people to that thing. That is one of the most childish clumsy creation story I’ve ever seen. What has it to do with Lord Jesus??

sonmvayina:
Zenithplus and CanadaOrBust, you have been following my argument so far.. Just tell me where you think I missed it?.. Or making a mistake..

My point in a nut shell is that there was never any need for the jesus story.. God command was confess and forsake, I will forgive... No where he said he was sending his son to come and die.. When he has already provided a solution..

So, what are urs?

But I already asked u if u r sure u can keep the 700 odd commandments. If u can’t, You know why Jesus had to die for you

sonmvayina:
Sorry, I made a mistake.. I will post the right passage when I get it.. Israel was his chosen people..

Of course - he is God of Israel and if u become a spiritual Israelite u become a spiritual Jew, subject to ALL the Jewish laws. No where in the scriptures does it say u choose which ones

sonmvayina:
It is up to you.. They were his chosen people.. He was their god they were his
People.. Israel was his first born son..

Stop making up stuff.
Deuteronomy 10 ends at 22 and in no way support anything u r saying

sonmvayina:
The 7 noahide laws, I have posted them here before.. We are all "children of Noah".. The rest where for the jews, they where his chosen people.. Read deuteronomy 10:7-32

I don’t have to read anything to know u r wrong. God of Israel concerned himself with Israel. Stop making up stuff.
Deuteronomy 10 ends at 22 and in no way support anything u r saying

sonmvayina:
The 700+ laws are for the jews only.. Not for the rest of mankind..

So u pick and choose which to obey. Ok, which of them are for mankind and where did it say those alone are to be obeyed by mankind?

sonmvayina:
The best way to worship the creator is to obey his laws.. You know them.. No idolatry, keep sabath day holy, honor father and mother, don't kill, don't vomit adultery.. Etc.. I don't do them.. I don't need to go through any Jesus to obey them... If I fall, I confess my sins to God directly and try again to forsake it.. He said he will forgive.. I believe he will..

There are about 700 laws and it says if u break one it’s like you’ve broken all . U sure u can keep them all?

sonmvayina:
The Oracle was for king Arab, the pregnant woman is Isaiah wife.. The son is Isaiah "s son.. Read the story in context

Isaiah’s son will be born of a virgin? Okay o
U don’t understand that these things have to be read in greater historical context that even the prophet may not have understood