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PoliticsRe: APC Gets 26 Members In Imo State House Of Assembly by CanadaOrBust: 8:14pm On Feb 01, 2020
davodyguy:
How many seats are available in the house, with APC getting 26 so far?
27
PoliticsRe: APC Gets 26 Members In Imo State House Of Assembly by CanadaOrBust: 8:05pm On Feb 01, 2020
Lol. Democracy is simply not meant for some countries. Nigeria is one of them!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 7:53pm On Feb 01, 2020
chukel:
idiot. Stop quoting me. By the inclusion of the excluded votes from the 388 polling units, was he not elected by the majority. Is it because fraudsters like you manipulated the system and shut him out by excluding votes from his stronghold but padded votes from mbaise, making it look like he was 4th place?
In case u missed it, PDP won the rerun recently held in his hometown “stronghold”!

And BTW here is the judgment u guys are up all night defending. HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

Vanguard. Tuesday, January 28, 2020
Imo Guber: How Supreme court erred in computation of results

*Declared more votes than accredited voters
*Failed to interrogate petitioners’ evidence
*Avoided mentioning figures in a written judgment
Facts have emerged that the Supreme Court failed to do a thorough mathematical computation of the results of the election but relied only on the wrong computations submitted by Sen. Hope Uzodinma to declare him the duly-elected governor of Imo State...

Both the EPT and the Appeal Court dismissed the petition for lacking in merit

By relying on the faulty tabulation made by Sen. Uzodinma, the Supreme Court arrived at a figure of 950,952 total votes cast at the election, which is more than the total votes cast at the election totalling 823,743.

This gave rise to 127,209 excess votes at the election as affirmed by the Supreme Court, which all through avoided mentioning figures regarding the votes cast for the disputants or the total registered voters and valid and invalid votes in the judgment.
Basher8584
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 6:52pm On Feb 01, 2020
Basher8583:
Denial is part of the characteristics of delusion comming as a result of pain of loss. Dont worry you will soon be ok. It will just take some time

Pele
I didn’t lose anything at all. I am neither Ibo nor do I care one whit about Ihedioha or PDP.
I do care about our nation’s trajectory and about my right to choose my leaders being taken away
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 6:47pm On Feb 01, 2020
chukel:
are you this stupid? Is hope not the incumbent governor now? Are you daft? So supreme court should apply your principle which says you don't remove an incumbent with fraudulent document no matter how he was elected. In that sense, they should throw away both ihedioha and whatever he is bringing to them for review. I bu ezigbote aturu.
Please don't quote me again. You are completely daft. In fact you are a robot. You are under instruction to ruminate same sentences.
See how u r educating yourself. @bolded, note the word “elected”, WAS HOPE ELECTED??

Now run along
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 6:14pm On Feb 01, 2020
Basher8583:
Stop ruminating on the 4th place. We all know he didn't come 4th in the election. That was the reason for the election dispute in the first place now. PDP rigged so badly that they couldnt perfect it well hence to loop hole that got them busted.
Please go and rest. The pain of loss will take time to heal but it will eventually go. At least you survived Atiku is cumming drama. You will also survive this one. Pele
Why do so many people on this forum refuse to be educated?!

In all elections there are errors and shenanigans and most people try to “rig” to some extent. That’s why a premium is placed on whatever is declared as the result after all that. And that’s why the bar for removing an incumbent is placed high.

AFTER ALL THAT, the electoral authority declared Ihedioha the winner and Hope the 4th place finisher.

After all the games and maneuverings, Hope finished FOURTH. That’s the baseline and u don’t lightly change that, u don’t change that through some ridiculous documents!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 5:53pm On Feb 01, 2020
chukel:
the bolded shows you are a robot not capable of reasoning. Repeating the same thing. Imagine the nonsense coming from you [/b]YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED![/b]. Well deal with it. Hope is now the incumbent. So apply that your useless statement.
Why do u refuse to be teachable??
I’ve told u b4, Hope is not the incumbent in that sense. Hope is the FOURTH place finisher. That’s the base line.

A COURT used him to replace the incumbent. Lawyers will cite that case ad infinitum, unless SC reverses itself.

Ihedioha was not installed by a court - no stare decisis, no case law to be cited.

Is that simple enough or is it still too complicated 4 u?
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 4:31pm On Feb 01, 2020
garfield1:
That of ihedioha were written on sand?
Ihedioha was the INCUMBENT.
He was not going to court to have himself replace the incumbent based on some clearly questionable documents.
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 4:25pm On Feb 01, 2020
mbos:
correction

igbo= Ihedioha

Fulani= Hope
Correction
I am neither Igbo nor for Ihedioha
I am for the type of country we’d end up becoming
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 4:16pm On Feb 01, 2020
chukel:
Nyesom Wike is a lawyer. The wife is a judge. Wike is one of the owners of pdp today, yet he has not condemned the supreme court over this issue despite his loquacious nature. You think he too was bribed by hope? Or he has turned a "zombie" too. Canadaorbust, receive sense.
Regardless of who condemns what, you need to let the following sink into your skull:

1) All elections have errors and shenanigans. That‘s why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something any time.
YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED!
We know how many of our senators and reps “won”. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish, incomplete documents full of ridiculous figures and smudges and alterations, with only APC and PDP results showing!

2) This type of case strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming.
YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!
Compare to Bush vs. Gore - the SC not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of all the original ballots!

3) You won’t find any other judgment like this anywhere. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has a SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 4:06pm On Feb 01, 2020
chrisxxx:
That was why I said legally valid vote.
And that’s why I told u they are not votes. They are numbers written on a sheet of paper
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 4:01pm On Feb 01, 2020
garfield1:
why do you keep repeating that same gibberish? Are you an ihedioha robot? I thought we ended this argument yesterday by concluding that their decision was legally sound but morally absurd and that our electoral laws need revamping?

As for zamfara,everybody didnt know that apc held primaries in zamfara or not,where you there? Even the ones pdp claimed to conduct,where you also there? Do you realize that most parties do not conduct primaries but simply handpick and submit? Do you realize that pdp did not conduct primaries in kano and gombe? People protesting in ondo polls means nothing in court until proven that the elections were rigged and ajasin proved this.you have once again shown your poor knowledge of the legal system or you are mistaking civil cases for electoral cases.

As an aside,let me go a little bit partisan.apc lost rivers and zamfara painfully,nobody complained much.let pdp take the loss of imo in good faith.
As u well know, I am an unbiased observer only concerned about my country’s trajectory. Unlike you, a total party apparatchik incapable of seeing the big picture.

But even a party operative needs education. So I’ll keep repeating the following till u get educated:

1) All elections have errors and shenanigans. That why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something.
YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED!
We know how many our senators and reps “won”. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish, incomplete documents full of ridiculous figures and smudges and alterations, with only APC and PDP results showing!

2) This type of case strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming.
YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!
Compare to Bush vs. Gore - the SC not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of all the original ballots!

3) You won’t find any other judgment like this anywhere. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has a SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 3:55pm On Feb 01, 2020
Basher8583:
This is not a tenable excuse. I am a Nigerian and I have never lost track of any important document. Thats irresponsible. Just speak for yourself and dont bring Nigeria into this.

Hope Uzodinma did not lose track of his important documents which Ihedioha irresponsibly did. Thats why he lost in SC
It is not about losing track of documents. You miss the point.

1) All elections have errors and shenanigans. That why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something.
YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED!
We know how many our senators and reps “won”. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish, incomplete documents full of ridiculous figures and smudges and alterations, with only APC and PDP results showing!

2) This type of case strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming.
YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!
Compare to Bush vs. Gore - the SC not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of all the original ballots!

3) You won’t find any other judgment like this anywhere. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has a SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 3:53pm On Feb 01, 2020
Tareq1105:
In LAW 101 we were taught that the law helps the vigilant.

The evidence produced by Hope was not the same with AA and APGA candidates hence the differences in their prayers.

Hope Uzodima produced results from 388 units that he was the one that won and that he should be declared winner.

Ihedioha said the results were fake. Good, okay produce Original, Ihedioha could not.

At the end, the said fake results became Original because no other results were tendered either by Ihedioha or PDP/INEC from the disputed 388 units to nullify it.

This is LAW 101 my brother. You need original to prove that the other is fake.

Whose fault?
I’d keep repeating the following till it sinks in

1) All elections have errors and shenanigans. That why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something.
YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED!
We know how many our senators and reps “won”. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish, incomplete documents full of ridiculous figures and smudges and alterations, with only APC and PDP results showing!

2) This type of case strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming.
YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!
Compare to Bush vs. Gore - the SC not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of all the original ballots!

3) You won’t find any other judgment like this anywhere. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has a SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 10:47am On Feb 01, 2020
chrisxxx:
As a pocket lawyer, my verdict would have been legally APC scored the highest number of legally valid votes but have no candidate for the said election. On this note, election of Iheodioha is upheld. Case close.
Correction: APC had the highest numerals entered on sheet of paper, not votes
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 10:35am On Feb 01, 2020
Basher8583:
Again I put it to you.. how was that difficult for Ihedioha's legal team and INEC to establish
Nigerians lose track of important documents all the time talkless of useless report sheets of cancelled election. That doesn’t warrant accepting outrageously defective result sheets and removing an 8-month incumbent based on them!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust:
chukel:
We went to court with the issue of exclusion, we didn’t go to court with the business of election malpractices, violence and all of that. So, it is a peculiar case. My case can be likened to that of Jim Nwobodo and Onoh, and Omoboriwo and Ajasin. The position of the Supreme Court is that where an election has been announced in a polling unit, INEC is bound to collect the result and enter the result into the form EC8B." This is what PDP and the ignorant masses have failed to assimilate. PDP is intentionally deceiving both the educated and uneducated illiterate masses instead of telling the facts of the case which they know.
My Man U keep saying the same thing and u keep sounding myopic and wrong. So every form whatever must be accepted no matter how outrageous and defective it may be?! There is a reason INEC and all the lower courts who actually examined the documents rightfully ruled against Uzodinma. You don’t replace an incumbent with a 4th-placer who has those kind of documents - error-ridden, smudgy, alterations, incomplete, with ridiculous figures, and only showing 2 parties out of 70!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust: 9:54am On Feb 01, 2020
Basher8583:
Since you claim to be this bright, why were you not at the supreme Court defending Ihedioha. Why wait for the supreme court judgement before ranting like a rabid dog.
Bright? I’m only stating what is obvious. How is that claiming to be bright?!

But bros, try to look beyond the immediate and consider the consequence of what u r supporting:

Someone who did not even receive a single vote can connive with INEC, write any result they wish, trash all originals and voila, they are the winner per Supreme Court!
PoliticsRe: Uzodinma: Ihedioha’s Bid To Reverse Supreme Court Judgement Based On Falsehood by CanadaOrBust:
Politicians and lies!
IMMEDIATELY Omoboriowo was declared winner by FEDECO there was pandemonium on the streets, the worst riots in Yoruba history. At least 40 people were killed, with two law makers set ablaze. That’s what he is comparing to Ihedioha where Imolites were rejoicing en masse. Also in that case SC UPHELD the rulings of all the lower courts, not overturn them on the technicality of refusing to examine documents right in front of them!

Mr. Oshiomhole is also being dishonest. In those other cases the SC simply upheld what everybody already knew. Example, everyone knew APC held no primary in Zamfara. He knows fully well this case is quite different.

Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has the SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!

All elections have errors. That’s why you have to keep the bar for removing an incumbent high. Otherwise anyone can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something (as in this case), and no elected official would be safe. To replace an 8-month incumbent gov with a 4th-place finishing appellant needs to be just about impossible. It needs to be backed by documentary and other evidence, totally above board, beyond reproach, and with multiple layers of authentication. Not some childish incomplete documents like Uzodinma’s, full of 100+% voter turnouts, smudges and alterations, and with only two parties’ results showing!
YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON SUCH DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES OR BY NOT EXAMINING DOCUMENTS, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!

I’d only say the following to those supporting this horrible judgment:

Realize that what u r supporting is removal of your right to choose your leaders, no less. Which will inevitably lead to a one-party state.
To be clear, here is the precedent u r supporting:

A person that comes 10th can easily be declared winner and immediately sworn in. All they’d have to do is present result sheets which the Supreme Court MUST accept no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals!
That’s what u r supporting!

The SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, unprecedented decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! SC does not exist in a vacuum. This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make the country a one-party state. Here they are, removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant himself. Regardless of what anyone else submits or fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters! That is how it is done! And that is why you’ve never had a judgment like this before!
FamilyRe: My Wife Is A Thief & Greedy: My One-Month Marriage About To Crash by CanadaOrBust: 12:16am On Feb 01, 2020
chinchum:
Marital status change easily na. People dont divorce ,separate or die anymorehuh. Is polygamy also outlawed in Nigeria?? Do we know if the earlier thread question by op was also for a pregnant " arrangee wife" as part of immigration scams by Nigerians ?? I am not stating he is genuine, but there is no sufficient evidence to also state his claim is not genuine.
Well in NL just assume it is fake even when there is no evidence. But when there is any slight evidence or discrepancy, u can be 1000% sure it is fake.
U don’t think someone asking for advice about a kleptomaniac pregnant wife shoulf mention he had rifferent pregnant wife two years ago?? How can u advice if u don’t have this info?! cheesy
FamilyRe: My Wife Is A Thief & Greedy: My One-Month Marriage About To Crash by CanadaOrBust: 11:21pm On Jan 31, 2020
eni4real:
Nairaland FBI grin grin shocked shocked grin grin
Yep, that’s me. And I’ve found that 99% of stories like this are fake or embellished and the aim is simply to make front page not seek advice. Nobody comes to NL to seriously seek advice!
FamilyRe: My Wife Is A Thief & Greedy: My One-Month Marriage About To Crash by CanadaOrBust: 11:18pm On Jan 31, 2020
chinchum:
did the op tell you his marital status history? If anything the 2017 thread if true only validates that he lives in US.
I know u r just being funny but let’s continue. He never mentioned his pregnant wife from 2017 here. Don’t u think that’s rather strange? What excuse would u give 4 him? cheesy
FamilyRe: My Wife Is A Thief & Greedy: My One-Month Marriage About To Crash by CanadaOrBust: 9:39pm On Jan 31, 2020
chinchum:
That is not proven yet. The op past post does not necessarily proves that this post is false. The story may be fabricated, but i bet there are real life situations like this story
Meaning what?? He made up the story! Otherwise how doing explain the below

FamilyRe: My Wife Is A Thief & Greedy: My One-Month Marriage About To Crash by CanadaOrBust: 9:12pm On Jan 31, 2020
chinchum:
What do people do during courtship? Have mind blowing sex and tell one another sweet nothinghuh??

If you will date someone, you don;t give them blind trust in the name of love, you assess them in several ways. You waited till you married her before noticing bad traits. Dating is like the internship and probation phase for a job applicant.

Even your wife's family too appears stingy , who organises parlour wedding without at least drinks and refreshments, even if you did not drop a kobo?? Redflags everywhere, but what some people see during dating and courtship of a girl are the fine face, big boobs and ass, and after wedding, it is lamentation galore.
But u missed the biggest red flag - that the story is AUDIO!
FamilyRe: My Wife Is A Thief & Greedy: My One-Month Marriage About To Crash by CanadaOrBust: 8:48pm On Jan 31, 2020
eni4real:
There are many Superstories here!!!
We just respond as they come... You can't be sure of the genuine ones cheesy
Well in this case u can be sure it is fake

Below is what our guy posted in 2017

FamilyRe: My Wife Is A Thief & Greedy: My One-Month Marriage About To Crash by CanadaOrBust: 8:12pm On Jan 31, 2020
Sijo01:
Op's wife was two months pregnant in 2017 and was planning of having her deliver the baby in US and return back home!

Now, his wife is 3 weeks pregnant and he got married to her just a month ago!

Somebody solve the equation above.
BUSTED BIG TIME!! Nairaland, full of fake people and audio stories!

Here’s what he posted in 2017:

Hello,

I am a U.S Permanent Resident. I currently live in the U.S and not yet a U.S Citizen.

I have my wife in Nigeria who is two months pregnant that I want her to deliver my baby in the U.S. What type of visa does she need to apply for? What documents do I need to give her to apply for visa?

In all, how do we go about having her in the U.S to just have the baby and go back home.
HealthRe: Coronavirus: Dead Man Lying On The Street Of Wuhan In China (Pictures) by CanadaOrBust: 4:09pm On Jan 31, 2020
signature2012:
To those of you that eat any kind of animal,hope you learn from this.
Include all flesh eaters, except fish
PoliticsRe: PDP Protests In Owerri, Calls For Reverse Of Supreme Court Judgment by CanadaOrBust:
garfield1:
Its obvious i cant convince you no matter how overwhelming and superior my arguments are.you are impossible and incorrigible.but many others are also reading our comments and will certainly learn from my salient legal points.

1. It i still almost impossible to remove an incumbent based on election cases at the supreme court.the last time the supreme court removed a governor based on election matters was in ondo,omoboriowo for ajasin as you know and the case was based on exclusion of results or wrong computation just like that of hope.that of zamfara and amaechi and andy ubah were pre election cases and were elementary matters.that of obi,oshiomhole,mimiko,fayemi etc were all appeal court decisions and i am 100% sure that the supreme court would have overturned these decisions if it got to them.it has always been easier to convince the lower courts to cancel an election since their own interpretation of substantial non compliance is less stringent and softer than the rigid supreme court.it is still almost impossible to remove an incumbent.you are not used to electoral matters.i wish you can go back to history.

2. talking about turnouts in court is the real judicial illiteracy.am sure that is what the defence did,building their case on quicksand.those are hearsays.you can only have a point if you prove that the turnout is more than the registered voters in those units if you use the manual register not card readers as you and inec are doing.ofcourse,hope must have reconciled the registers in most of those units to tally with his results.
Your assertions that turnouts rarely exceed 60% is false.you see,i told you that you are misguided,you think nigeria started in 2015? I was right about you.if you check nigerian elections since 1999-2012,you will see that turnout in the south south and south east are always the highest ranging from 70%-90%.rivers gave 2 million votes in 2003 out of 2.2 million votes.almost all the south east sstates except ebonyi turnout over 1 million.imo between 2003 and 2011 recorded an average of 1.1 million out of 1.5 million.abia,anambra same thing.go through my posts,i have consistently maintained that the most rigged areas are in ss and se.ofcourse these are written and conconted results but that's what the records will carry.
Please,go back to history and be properly guided.you are on a wrong footing.

3. you displayed clear illiteracy here.am sure those around you wont like to argue with you.in all election cases,the supreme court have maintained that any complains against results must be polling unit by polling unit and each unit is in a league on its own with its peculiarities.save me the stress by reading wike vs dakuku supra.
You are one of those that wrongly believed that atiku won because of irregularities in less than 100 units.am sure you also believed that because there was violence in okota,therefore there was violence in all of lagos.
Documentary and verbal evidence bar in 6 units shows that hope won.if inec has any reservations,they would have tendered both documentary and verbal proofs not just mere allegations.

4. i believed i have overflogged this part.the cases were similar bordering on excluded results during collation.you write well and legibly unlike me but your understanding and comprehension ability is poor.its a pity.its not a bad thing to concede defeat,it shows strength.

5. No 5 makes no sense.its amateurish and unreasonable.to what purpose will this comparison achieve? Before omoboriowo was removed,was there any prior removal? Are you forgetting that there's first time for everything and that records are meant to be broken? Must the status quo be maintained? No matter the irregularities involved,must the courts always affirm them? Who told you that court cases and decisions are decided only based on hierarchy in finishing? If so,why does the law not preclude every contestant from challenging an election,why not restrict it to the first runner up alone? what kind of reasoning is this? So if nwosu and araraume did not challenge,hope shouldn't have petitioned? So if nwosu and araraume had weak cases,hope should not strengthen his? if the formers couldn't benefit,why can't the latter? Nwosu had a strong case but was disqualified,this automatically killed araraume's case.hope who had a strong case on different premises simply benefited.why is it so hard to understand? Is it a relay race? Why cant you read all the different cases well before trying to find faults?

Let me summarize here.hope is an intelligent and smart fellow.he exhibited it here.he simply took advantage of the law which usually empowers inec and favours them in defending cases.the law prevents cancellation of results at polling units,he took advantage.the law presumes result sheets to be correct and regular,he took advantage.the law is usually tilted agaunst anybody challenging election result sheets,he got ahead of that.the burden of proof is usually heavy on allegations of righing at polling units but light on allegations of exclusion at collation points.inec rarely spends time in marshalling out their defence in election matters since the burden is light on them,he took advantage.inec couldn't provide any result sheet. Overvoting can only be proven using manual register not card reader,he took advantage..what is so hard to understand? Hope took advantage of these loopholes and struck at inec.the supreme court simply followed the settled and age long electoral laws.
i wish i was a mod.
My friend make sense. Immediately Omoboriowo was declared winner by FEDECO there was pandemonium, the worst riots in Yoruba history. At least 40 people were killed, with two law makers set ablaze. Compare that to Ihedioha where Imolites were rejoicing. Also SC UPHELD the rulings of all the lower courts not overturn them on the technicality of refusing to examine documents right in front of them!

Like I said before, I never knew u were a total party apparatchik. Now I know u r not an unbiased observer like myself, there is no point continuing the discussion.

I’d only say the following in closing:

Realize that what u r supporting is removal of your right to choose your leaders, no less. Which will inevitably lead to a one-party state. Here is the precedent set by this judgment which u r supporting:

A person that comes 10th can easily be declared winner and immediately sworn in. All they’d have to do is present result sheets which the Supreme Court MUST accept no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals!
That is the precedent u r supporting!

Of course, as a total party apparatchik u r incapable of seeing the big picture. You’ll always be all about technicalities and pretending not to see what is actually happening as long as it benefits your party. If this were just another case, fine. But this is a case strikes at the very core of what type of country we may end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE A CASE LIKE THAT ON TECHNICALITIES OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!

Like I said b4, this case is akin to Bush vs. Gore - knowing the importance of the case, Supreme Court not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of the actual original votes!

SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, unprecedented decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! SC does not exist in a vacuum. This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make the country a one-party state. Here they are, removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant. Regardless of what anyone else submits or fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters! That is how it is done! And that is why you’ve never had a judgment like this before!

Note: not only were the childish documents full of ridiculous figures, they were incomplete, full of smudges and alterations, and only APC and PDP results were legible!
PoliticsRe: PDP Protests In Owerri, Calls For Reverse Of Supreme Court Judgment by CanadaOrBust: 3:34pm On Jan 31, 2020
garfield1:
People are seeing you for who you are.you are empty.why cant you get it that result sheets and what is contained are seen by the courts as authentic and totally genuine and if you must disprove them,you do so well and inec refused to disprove them.inec was focusing on nwosu and araraume instead.form ec8a is seen by the apex court as the most solid document in election cases.

Who told you that okorocha did not win? You are so poor in research and investigation.before the brouhaha happened,okorocha had 90,000 votes,his opponent onyereri had 67,000 votes.cancelled votes was about 40,000.okorocha won 9 out of the 12 lgas in orlu.the returning officer wanted to declare it inconclusive which was the right thing to do.rochas would still have won anyway.but rochas men intercepted several phone calls from prof otunta the state collation officer and other pdp agents.instead of the results to be declared inconclysive,the senatorial rsturning officer claimed the results were missing.after a while he claimed that he needed to go to owerri.
Remember that during the apc congress and guber primaries,rochas was blindsided through a gang-up.this looked like another gang up and get did what he needed to do like any other politician.please be guided.

If you want to mention leaders that are in office that didnt win,dont include rochas.start from ikpeazu.the fault is from their opponents who had weak cases not the law
I never knew u were a total party apparatchik (u must be, to know all these details about one Okorocha). I assumed u were just another unbiased observer like myself - only concerned about my country’s trajectory.

That explains why u refuse to see the big picture. U r all about result sheets and their mandatory acceptance by courts no matter how obviously fraudulent they are!
The only curious thing though, is that the same courts u said must see them as “authentic and totally genuine” are the same courts that rejected them. SC upheld them because they refused to examine them!

But all this aside, I don’t know how it seems right to u that a court will replace a sitting gov based on documents they refuse to examine!
PoliticsRe: PDP Protests In Owerri, Calls For Reverse Of Supreme Court Judgment by CanadaOrBust: 8:50am On Jan 31, 2020
chukel:
I think I mistakenly overrated your intelligence. You actually now sound like a bigot. Ihedioha's stronghold in mbaise recorded 100% turnout. Why didn't you call for the cancellation of the results that made him governor. It's very silly to keep mentioning "keeping bar for removal of incumbent high". Guy, hope uzodinmma is now incumbent. Kindly apply that your bar. Repeating 4th place all the time without looking at the crux of the matter shows you are irredeemably dumb. Sorry to be harsh, but that's what it is. Someone has results from 388 polling units illegally excluded and you keep touting 4th to 1st. Mention any authentic democracy where someone's results will be illegally excluded. You are really dumb. Please run off to U.N. and go report. I'm done with a retard like you. Continue in your folly. Peace.
Add: if you are sensible and fairly critical, you would have known who to blame for ihedioha's predicament. The tribunal judges he bribed. They refused to admit the evidence hope had. If they had admitted, pdp would have had a chance to counter the authenticity of the said result. But they didn't. If you really know how the law works, you won't be typing all this nonsense
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY??!! Why do u refuse to be educated?! YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED! How many senators, including a Okorocha, are there and we know they never won. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish documents with 200% turnouts!

Uzodinma is not an incumbent in that sense. He finished FOURTH. That’s the baseline.
PoliticsRe: PDP Protests In Owerri, Calls For Reverse Of Supreme Court Judgment by CanadaOrBust: 8:26am On Jan 31, 2020
chukel:
I find the bolded laughable. You are too intelligent for this crap. Have you also considered the precedence that a contestant can collude with inec and exclude the results of another contender in order to be declared governor because according to you the bar for removing incumbent should be high? Do you even look at a case on its merit? Do you even know the origin of this case? Do you think they just go to any printer and print results and submit to a court? Do you think the 7 judges are fools? I wonder where your conscience is. Why couldn't inec produce the authentic result. Why is ihedioha not contesting that result. He is only contesting that hope isn't the rightful candidate for APC. Have you read the reason he is back at the supreme court asking for review? Have you gone through the results of that election from mbaise? Stop been sentimental and emotional. Look at this case from the merit. Major problem is that folks like you cannot reason beyond sentiments, tribalism and ethnicity. You should acquaint yourself with the workings of the court and the law and stop exhibiting intelligible ignorance.
Tribalism? What do u think is my tribe?? And sentiments? U r the one being sentimental and myopic. U r incapable of seeing beyond the immediate. U r incapable of realizing that this horrible judgment is a sure track to a one-party state.

Also u sound judicially illiterate. You keep citing things that happened outside the court. Stare Decisis is determined by COURT RULLINGS. That is what lawyers would cite in future cases. So u may find the bolded laughable, but that is exactly the precedence set by this judgement.

And stop lying, the supremes REFUSED to examine the documents and that is part of what Ihedioha lawyers are requesting in their request
PoliticsRe: PDP Protests In Owerri, Calls For Reverse Of Supreme Court Judgment by CanadaOrBust: 8:01am On Jan 31, 2020
garfield1:
Me and you have discussed this severally and you forget so soon,guy you are not okay in health.others have moved on,i wont be surprised if you are under ihedioha's payroll.so discrepancies in six units is what is titillating you? Do you know the thousands of discrepancies found in buhari vs obj? Buhari vs yaradua,wike vs dakuku? I have told you that the apex court do not examine documents or result sheets in election cases,tribunals do that.no evidence or proofs are 100 percent that is why they weigh it on probabilities and substantial.if you read the supreme court ruling,justice kekere ekun said based on preponderances of evidences hope proved his which means that he had a multiplicity of strong evidences compared to inec which brought none.

I know you have consistently said that the errors in 6 units is defective and should nullify the rest.it doesn't work like that in the court.pdp and inec must specifically identify or point out those errors and defects in each unit differently.the judges will never do that for them without the defence drawing their attention to it.you must lead evidence in court to prove or disprove as everything in the result sheet is deemed regular.
based on ruling and court ruling,the defence never talked about those errors,they only alleged that the rezultz were forged and gave no further proof to that.

Now in matters concerning polling units,it is Legally sacred and each polling unit is different and independent.what happened in one cannot affect the other in law,you must prove each unit differently and unit by unit at a time.all cannot be generalized.if there are defects in 6,it concerns those six.ihedioha has failed.Please stop disturbing us
Your continued insinuation about me knowing Ihedioha shows u r incapable of delving into things. All u have to do is check my posts to know that I am no supporter of Ihedioha or PDP. This is the ONLY instance I am on the side of PDP because this is quite simply a horrible judgment that sets dangerous precedent.

I don’t know if it is that u don’t read, I have already spelled all these out to u b4. Let me now number them to make it easier for you to comprehend:

1) ALL ELECTIONS HAVE ERRORS. That’s why you have to keep the bar for removing an incumbent high. Otherwise anyone can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something (as in this case), and no one’s seat would be safe. To replace an incumbent gov with a 4th-place finishing appellant needs to be just about impossible. It needs to be backed by documentary and otherwise evidence, totally above board, beyond reproach, and with multiple layers of authentication.

2) I have already told u that election turn-out rarely exceeds 60%. The fact that all Uzodinma’s units had over 90% turn-outs is enough evidence that the results inauthentic. So your asking that only the 6 units with 100+% be excluded is childish.

3) I have also already told u that courts don’t cherry pick a unit body of evidence. Your asking that only the six units be excluded is evidence of judicial illiteracy.

4) You dishonestly mentioned “Ajasin vs. Omoboriowo” when I issued the challenge below. You hoped I didn’t know the details of that case - that there is hardly any comparison between the two cases.

5) Here is the challenge again.
Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where this has ever happened!
YOU CAN’T!

Mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against all lower courts AND INEC itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!!
chukel

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