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davodyguy:27 |
Lol. Democracy is simply not meant for some countries. Nigeria is one of them! |
chukel:In case u missed it, PDP won the rerun recently held in his hometown “stronghold”! And BTW here is the judgment u guys are up all night defending. HAVE YOU NO SHAME? Vanguard. Tuesday, January 28, 2020 Imo Guber: How Supreme court erred in computation of results *Declared more votes than accredited voters *Failed to interrogate petitioners’ evidence *Avoided mentioning figures in a written judgment Facts have emerged that the Supreme Court failed to do a thorough mathematical computation of the results of the election but relied only on the wrong computations submitted by Sen. Hope Uzodinma to declare him the duly-elected governor of Imo State... Both the EPT and the Appeal Court dismissed the petition for lacking in merit By relying on the faulty tabulation made by Sen. Uzodinma, the Supreme Court arrived at a figure of 950,952 total votes cast at the election, which is more than the total votes cast at the election totalling 823,743. This gave rise to 127,209 excess votes at the election as affirmed by the Supreme Court, which all through avoided mentioning figures regarding the votes cast for the disputants or the total registered voters and valid and invalid votes in the judgment. Basher8584 |
Basher8583:I didn’t lose anything at all. I am neither Ibo nor do I care one whit about Ihedioha or PDP. I do care about our nation’s trajectory and about my right to choose my leaders being taken away |
chukel:See how u r educating yourself. @bolded, note the word “elected”, WAS HOPE ELECTED?? Now run along |
Basher8583:Why do so many people on this forum refuse to be educated?! In all elections there are errors and shenanigans and most people try to “rig” to some extent. That’s why a premium is placed on whatever is declared as the result after all that. And that’s why the bar for removing an incumbent is placed high. AFTER ALL THAT, the electoral authority declared Ihedioha the winner and Hope the 4th place finisher. After all the games and maneuverings, Hope finished FOURTH. That’s the baseline and u don’t lightly change that, u don’t change that through some ridiculous documents! |
chukel:Why do u refuse to be teachable?? I’ve told u b4, Hope is not the incumbent in that sense. Hope is the FOURTH place finisher. That’s the base line. A COURT used him to replace the incumbent. Lawyers will cite that case ad infinitum, unless SC reverses itself. Ihedioha was not installed by a court - no stare decisis, no case law to be cited. Is that simple enough or is it still too complicated 4 u? |
garfield1:Ihedioha was the INCUMBENT. He was not going to court to have himself replace the incumbent based on some clearly questionable documents. |
mbos:Correction I am neither Igbo nor for Ihedioha I am for the type of country we’d end up becoming |
chukel:Regardless of who condemns what, you need to let the following sink into your skull: 1) All elections have errors and shenanigans. That‘s why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something any time. YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED! We know how many of our senators and reps “won”. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish, incomplete documents full of ridiculous figures and smudges and alterations, with only APC and PDP results showing! 2) This type of case strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Compare to Bush vs. Gore - the SC not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of all the original ballots! 3) You won’t find any other judgment like this anywhere. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has a SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! |
chrisxxx:And that’s why I told u they are not votes. They are numbers written on a sheet of paper |
garfield1:As u well know, I am an unbiased observer only concerned about my country’s trajectory. Unlike you, a total party apparatchik incapable of seeing the big picture. But even a party operative needs education. So I’ll keep repeating the following till u get educated: 1) All elections have errors and shenanigans. That why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something. YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED! We know how many our senators and reps “won”. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish, incomplete documents full of ridiculous figures and smudges and alterations, with only APC and PDP results showing! 2) This type of case strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Compare to Bush vs. Gore - the SC not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of all the original ballots! 3) You won’t find any other judgment like this anywhere. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has a SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! |
Basher8583:It is not about losing track of documents. You miss the point. 1) All elections have errors and shenanigans. That why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something. YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED! We know how many our senators and reps “won”. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish, incomplete documents full of ridiculous figures and smudges and alterations, with only APC and PDP results showing! 2) This type of case strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Compare to Bush vs. Gore - the SC not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of all the original ballots! 3) You won’t find any other judgment like this anywhere. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has a SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! |
Tareq1105:I’d keep repeating the following till it sinks in 1) All elections have errors and shenanigans. That why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. Otherwise anybody can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something. YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED! We know how many our senators and reps “won”. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish, incomplete documents full of ridiculous figures and smudges and alterations, with only APC and PDP results showing! 2) This type of case strikes at the very core of what type of country we’d end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Compare to Bush vs. Gore - the SC not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of all the original ballots! 3) You won’t find any other judgment like this anywhere. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has a SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! |
chrisxxx:Correction: APC had the highest numerals entered on sheet of paper, not votes |
Basher8583:Nigerians lose track of important documents all the time talkless of useless report sheets of cancelled election. That doesn’t warrant accepting outrageously defective result sheets and removing an 8-month incumbent based on them! |
chukel:My Man U keep saying the same thing and u keep sounding myopic and wrong. So every form whatever must be accepted no matter how outrageous and defective it may be?! There is a reason INEC and all the lower courts who actually examined the documents rightfully ruled against Uzodinma. You don’t replace an incumbent with a 4th-placer who has those kind of documents - error-ridden, smudgy, alterations, incomplete, with ridiculous figures, and only showing 2 parties out of 70! |
Basher8583:Bright? I’m only stating what is obvious. How is that claiming to be bright?! But bros, try to look beyond the immediate and consider the consequence of what u r supporting: Someone who did not even receive a single vote can connive with INEC, write any result they wish, trash all originals and voila, they are the winner per Supreme Court! |
Politicians and lies! IMMEDIATELY Omoboriowo was declared winner by FEDECO there was pandemonium on the streets, the worst riots in Yoruba history. At least 40 people were killed, with two law makers set ablaze. That’s what he is comparing to Ihedioha where Imolites were rejoicing en masse. Also in that case SC UPHELD the rulings of all the lower courts, not overturn them on the technicality of refusing to examine documents right in front of them! Mr. Oshiomhole is also being dishonest. In those other cases the SC simply upheld what everybody already knew. Example, everyone knew APC held no primary in Zamfara. He knows fully well this case is quite different. Never in Nigerian judicial history (or any authentic democracy for that matter) has the SC ruled against ALL lower courts AND the election authority itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! All elections have errors. That’s why you have to keep the bar for removing an incumbent high. Otherwise anyone can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something (as in this case), and no elected official would be safe. To replace an 8-month incumbent gov with a 4th-place finishing appellant needs to be just about impossible. It needs to be backed by documentary and other evidence, totally above board, beyond reproach, and with multiple layers of authentication. Not some childish incomplete documents like Uzodinma’s, full of 100+% voter turnouts, smudges and alterations, and with only two parties’ results showing! YOU DON’T DECIDE SUCH A CASE BASED ON SUCH DOCUMENTS, OR TECHNICALITIES OR BY NOT EXAMINING DOCUMENTS, OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! I’d only say the following to those supporting this horrible judgment: Realize that what u r supporting is removal of your right to choose your leaders, no less. Which will inevitably lead to a one-party state. To be clear, here is the precedent u r supporting: A person that comes 10th can easily be declared winner and immediately sworn in. All they’d have to do is present result sheets which the Supreme Court MUST accept no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals! That’s what u r supporting! The SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, unprecedented decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! SC does not exist in a vacuum. This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make the country a one-party state. Here they are, removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant himself. Regardless of what anyone else submits or fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters! That is how it is done! And that is why you’ve never had a judgment like this before! |
chinchum:Well in NL just assume it is fake even when there is no evidence. But when there is any slight evidence or discrepancy, u can be 1000% sure it is fake. U don’t think someone asking for advice about a kleptomaniac pregnant wife shoulf mention he had rifferent pregnant wife two years ago?? How can u advice if u don’t have this info?! ![]() |
eni4real:Yep, that’s me. And I’ve found that 99% of stories like this are fake or embellished and the aim is simply to make front page not seek advice. Nobody comes to NL to seriously seek advice! |
chinchum:I know u r just being funny but let’s continue. He never mentioned his pregnant wife from 2017 here. Don’t u think that’s rather strange? What excuse would u give 4 him? ![]() |
chinchum:Meaning what?? He made up the story! Otherwise how doing explain the below
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chinchum:But u missed the biggest red flag - that the story is AUDIO! |
eni4real:Well in this case u can be sure it is fake Below is what our guy posted in 2017
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Sijo01:BUSTED BIG TIME!! Nairaland, full of fake people and audio stories! Here’s what he posted in 2017: Hello, I am a U.S Permanent Resident. I currently live in the U.S and not yet a U.S Citizen. I have my wife in Nigeria who is two months pregnant that I want her to deliver my baby in the U.S. What type of visa does she need to apply for? What documents do I need to give her to apply for visa? In all, how do we go about having her in the U.S to just have the baby and go back home. |
signature2012:Include all flesh eaters, except fish |
garfield1:My friend make sense. Immediately Omoboriowo was declared winner by FEDECO there was pandemonium, the worst riots in Yoruba history. At least 40 people were killed, with two law makers set ablaze. Compare that to Ihedioha where Imolites were rejoicing. Also SC UPHELD the rulings of all the lower courts not overturn them on the technicality of refusing to examine documents right in front of them! Like I said before, I never knew u were a total party apparatchik. Now I know u r not an unbiased observer like myself, there is no point continuing the discussion. I’d only say the following in closing: Realize that what u r supporting is removal of your right to choose your leaders, no less. Which will inevitably lead to a one-party state. Here is the precedent set by this judgment which u r supporting: A person that comes 10th can easily be declared winner and immediately sworn in. All they’d have to do is present result sheets which the Supreme Court MUST accept no matter how outrageous and defective they may be, as long as no one can produce the originals! That is the precedent u r supporting! Of course, as a total party apparatchik u r incapable of seeing the big picture. You’ll always be all about technicalities and pretending not to see what is actually happening as long as it benefits your party. If this were just another case, fine. But this is a case strikes at the very core of what type of country we may end up becoming. YOU DON’T DECIDE A CASE LIKE THAT ON TECHNICALITIES OR BY PRETENDING NOT TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! Like I said b4, this case is akin to Bush vs. Gore - knowing the importance of the case, Supreme Court not only thoroughly examined the documents, they ordered a manual recount of the actual original votes! SC has a duty to make sure that such a momentous, unprecedented decision has solid, unassailable documentary basis?! They start doing that by thoroughly examining the documents in front of them! SC does not exist in a vacuum. This is also their country and they ought care they are setting a precedent that can gradually make the country a one-party state. Here they are, removing a gov and replacing him with a fourth-place finishing appellant based solely on a set of uncollaborated documents supplied solely by the appellant. Regardless of what anyone else submits or fails to submit, they have a DUTY to EXAMINE those documents to make sure they are up to par and that the figures therein make sense vis-a-vis number of registered and accredited voters! That is how it is done! And that is why you’ve never had a judgment like this before! Note: not only were the childish documents full of ridiculous figures, they were incomplete, full of smudges and alterations, and only APC and PDP results were legible! |
garfield1:I never knew u were a total party apparatchik (u must be, to know all these details about one Okorocha). I assumed u were just another unbiased observer like myself - only concerned about my country’s trajectory. That explains why u refuse to see the big picture. U r all about result sheets and their mandatory acceptance by courts no matter how obviously fraudulent they are! The only curious thing though, is that the same courts u said must see them as “authentic and totally genuine” are the same courts that rejected them. SC upheld them because they refused to examine them! But all this aside, I don’t know how it seems right to u that a court will replace a sitting gov based on documents they refuse to examine! |
chukel:WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY??!! Why do u refuse to be educated?! YOU DON’T REMOVE AN INCUMBENT BY PRESENTING CLEARLY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS NO MATTER HOW THE INCUMBENT WAS ELECTED! How many senators, including a Okorocha, are there and we know they never won. But u need solid, unassailable evidence to have them removed. Not some childish documents with 200% turnouts! Uzodinma is not an incumbent in that sense. He finished FOURTH. That’s the baseline. |
chukel:Tribalism? What do u think is my tribe?? And sentiments? U r the one being sentimental and myopic. U r incapable of seeing beyond the immediate. U r incapable of realizing that this horrible judgment is a sure track to a one-party state. Also u sound judicially illiterate. You keep citing things that happened outside the court. Stare Decisis is determined by COURT RULLINGS. That is what lawyers would cite in future cases. So u may find the bolded laughable, but that is exactly the precedence set by this judgement. And stop lying, the supremes REFUSED to examine the documents and that is part of what Ihedioha lawyers are requesting in their request |
garfield1:Your continued insinuation about me knowing Ihedioha shows u r incapable of delving into things. All u have to do is check my posts to know that I am no supporter of Ihedioha or PDP. This is the ONLY instance I am on the side of PDP because this is quite simply a horrible judgment that sets dangerous precedent. I don’t know if it is that u don’t read, I have already spelled all these out to u b4. Let me now number them to make it easier for you to comprehend: 1) ALL ELECTIONS HAVE ERRORS. That’s why you have to keep the bar for removing an incumbent high. Otherwise anyone can come up with electoral errors or connive with INEC or cook up something (as in this case), and no one’s seat would be safe. To replace an incumbent gov with a 4th-place finishing appellant needs to be just about impossible. It needs to be backed by documentary and otherwise evidence, totally above board, beyond reproach, and with multiple layers of authentication. 2) I have already told u that election turn-out rarely exceeds 60%. The fact that all Uzodinma’s units had over 90% turn-outs is enough evidence that the results inauthentic. So your asking that only the 6 units with 100+% be excluded is childish. 3) I have also already told u that courts don’t cherry pick a unit body of evidence. Your asking that only the six units be excluded is evidence of judicial illiteracy. 4) You dishonestly mentioned “Ajasin vs. Omoboriowo” when I issued the challenge below. You hoped I didn’t know the details of that case - that there is hardly any comparison between the two cases. 5) Here is the challenge again. Don’t even limit it to only Nigeria. Mention any authentic democracy where this has ever happened! YOU CAN’T! Mention another instance in Nigerian judicial history where the SC ruled against all lower courts AND INEC itself in order to immediately replace a sitting governor with a 4th-place finisher - all based on clearly questionable, uncollaborated, and unauthenticated documents supplied solely by the 4th-place finisher himself!! chukel |
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. Is polygamy also outlawed in Nigeria?? Do we know if the earlier thread question by op was also for a pregnant " arrangee wife" as part of immigration scams by Nigerians ?? I am not stating he is genuine, but there is no sufficient evidence to also state his claim is not genuine.