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Venerable612:
Settle out of court and pay only funds?

I disagree sir.

The allegations, as I understand it, is not that he embezzled money.

He has been accused of using false documents to move money from Nigeria and around the US to purchase some Aircrafts: in Legal parlance Money Laundering and Bank Fraud.

So This is not a Civil case - it’s a Criminal Case.

There is no such thing as settlemt out of court in this instance - but a plea bargain.

Thus, He either pleads guilty to the offence/or a lesser charge, and he is given a reduced sentence - and/or option of fine - or he pleads not guilty and the case proceeds to trial.

At least, that’s how I understand these things to go legally.

Either way he needs very good lawyers.
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U r exactly right

ZooOga:
this article/link is a few years old but very enlightening compared to current events.

Kingsley Kuku And Business Partner Floats Airline With Fraud Proceed From Amnesty Programme

Diepreye Jackson Dikibo

Spokesman, Ex Militant Leaders Forum
Niger Delta

http://www.theparadigmng.com/2014/07/08/kingsley-kuku-and-business-partner-floats-airline-with-fraud-proceed-from-amnesty-programme/



Kingsley Kuku and Allen Onyema with President Obama and VP Biden during Obama’s second inauguration party

This was already on front page and already up to 13 pages

https://www.nairaland.com/5546552/what-diepreye-jackson-dikibo-said

Ayoefa:
Pay fines for criminal FELONY offenses? You must think this is igboshere court where useless judges give prison terms with option of fine. No way bro....you do the crime, you must do the TIME.

But they will offer u plea bargain if they know their case is not strong enough - except that in this case it seems they know they have a very strong case

Xpol:
Even if onyeama is corrupt I doubt if the corruption can reach the like of Tinubu, OBJ, GEJ, ATIKU and you that is reading my post if given the same opportunity like them. I hope I’ve not made hate speech soooo.

Yeah, but he broke the most important rule:
DON’T GET CAUGHT!!

They already stole the money without being caught. Why not just chill and enjoy the money instead of getting entangled in American banking laws

Guyman02:
Other countries including America protect their own no Matter the accusations, that's why US troops can commit atrocities in Iraq, Libya, Syria etc without prosecution.

R u saying America will protect him, I don’t understand...
He’s American citizen

Multiplier7:
A good Government protects her citizens through thick and thin, but here it is operation pull him down.

He is an American citizen. R u saying America will protect him, I don’t understand

pocohantas:
Lol. That is a new one.

Amazing, like it was intentionally imbedded in her name:

LUN-ATIC O-LUN-LOYO

LUN-ATIC O-LUN-LOYO

musicwriter:
Bro, at this point I have to leave you becuse I've realized I can't help someone understand something that only themselves can understand. You're very much asleep now. Hopefully, you'll wake up in the future.

See you later.

Here is someone who doesn’t know where he is because he thinks the world can only be perceived through the 5 senses telling someone who KNOWS what he is following that he is asleep.

Here’s is something u don’t know: you don’t need the Bible at all to know Christ. You know Christ through direct experience - you just KNOW and it’s clearer to u than anything u have ever known. St. Paul never read the Bible, he regarded Christians worse than Tacitus UNTILL like thunderbolt he had direct encounter with the Spirit. After that he became the most fanatical of the same Christians he was out to kill!

Here’s wishing you one day have such encounter yourself.
Take care

musicwriter:
It tells you clearly that he was refering to a ''deadly superstition'' And that's what Christianity is.

Do you want me to believe that a superstition is reality？

I thought u said it was never mentioned. See, u have been tricked, and by your own admission, YOU LOST!

Just as you lost by pointing out there are obvious mistakes and inconsistencies in the Bible - not knowing u r thereby admitting it couldn’t have been written by Constantine. YOU LOST AGAIN!

Accept the FREE salvation offered to you and stop arguing things you have no way of knowing and will never have any way of knowing for sure.
Ciao!

musicwriter:
Please maintain your argument and let me discuss with the other guy.

You're so deparate that you can believe anything to prove Jesus. Zoom in on the image and show me where they wrote Jesus Christ in any language.

What you've shown is the Nag hamadi and other Gnostic materials hiden away when Constantine and other Roman Emperors were killing the Gnostics and burning their books. As said previously that religion has already been destroyed. And there's no Jesus Christ writen on it.

The figure mentioned in the papers was a militant and a religious fundamentalist such as boko harams, fighting for liberation from occupation of their lands. You can actually see it at the end of the document.

My man, there is nothing we can know 4 sure. That’s the nature of our universe. You cannot prove 100^ that Washington was a real person. Heck, u can’t even prove that YOU exist. It is only in Jesus’ that u require 109% proof!

Here’s another proof, as written by Tacitus. Note the bolded:

[N]either human effort nor the emperor’s generosity nor the placating of the gods ended the scandalous belief that the fire had been ordered [by Nero]. Therefore, to put down the rumor, Nero substituted as culprits and punished in the most unusual ways those hated for their shameful acts … whom the crowd called “Chrestians.” The founder of this name, Christ [Christus in Latin], had been executed in the reign of Tiberius by the procurator Pontius Pilate … Suppressed for a time, the deadly superstition erupted again not only in Judea, the origin of this evil, but also in the city [Rome], where all things horrible and shameful from everywhere come together and become popular.5

musicwriter:
There're more Apps in Chinese than English.

No, China and Japan never succumbed to the disease called Christianity. And that's why they developed.

You know full well China is no democracy. It is a totalitarian third world country whose nationals try to get into US just like Nigerians. Japan can’t innovate because Shintoism won’t let them. You must admit there is something clean and FREE about Christianity. All these other religions require all sorts of rituals and are are under all sorts of yolks and laws, not Christians-only one requirement - accept Christ. That’s it!

musicwriter:
Of course, you cannot show me, so all you can do is explain it away.

His bame would have been ''Jeshua Messiah'' in Hebrew. Show me a historical text with that name.

In Greek, his name would've been ''Iisous Christus.'' Show me a historical text that mentioned that name within the dates you provided.

I've researched and the name doesn't exist in history. Do you know why？ Because the myth wasn't manufactured yet.

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-in-the-entire-first-christian-century-jesus-is-not-mentioned-by-a-single-greek-or-roman-bart-d-ehrman-76-21-17.jpg

Here is one definite proof. There are many others

musicwriter:
I am more free because I am equal to your Jesus. So, you actually believe me.

The three wealthiest countries are:-
USA- Christianity.
China- Confuciunism.
Japan- Shintoism.

As you can see, nothing is special about Christianity. And the reason they developed inspite of religion is because those religions evolved through their voluntary direct partcipation in nature. But yours was imposed on you and has actually destroyed your organic spirituality that would've allowed you be the best.

I said AND DEMOCRATIC! Besides, name one app u r using that is from Japan, or any innovation for that matter.
Not true. They resisted and tried to nip Christianity in the bud, just like Africans, b4 succumbing to it. It wasn’t homegrown, it came from abroad

frowland:
Sure sure, but they have to see through those gimmicks. I am sure him and his colleagues know before now that they are under investigation, reason for the public display of charity because of a day like this. I hope he pulls through though but there is hardly a billionaire in this country who did not obtain money illegally from the coffers of this country.

Of course they knew - but so did Mompha and Patience Jonathan and Diezani

TundeBricklayer:
Research more about Panama papers Nigeria

These are some of the men that have looted our common wealth to build their business empires

But some of them were caught and disgraced or jailed.

Onyema broke the most important rule: DON’T GET CAUGHT!!

frowland:
Of course as expected. Most of these billionaires do all this glorious favours and charities to gather sentiments when the chips are down.
So what a common man on the street knows is that the man brought them home from SA, he must be a good man, bla bla bla. Udo!

No mind them. But still u have to give him some credit for that - people like Mompha didn’t do even that - just buying countless Lamborghinis when all they really need is one good car

Almajiri1:
We are more particular whether the necessary documentations and tax were paid for all the monies made during the photoshoot just like they're accusing Allen Onyeama of bending their banking laws.

I believe that if proper searchlight is beamed on this, there might be at least one law broken in this process. Even if it is spiritual or our own traditional laws. Stupid Americans.

So bring it on. They are not stopping u from investigating them - investigating helps keep their people employed. Just think how many Americans had a job for 9 years because of the Onyema investigation!

Ghokes:
But for my work, I would have been in attendance.
The more knowledgeable you are, the better you become.

Forget work. This is more important. But wait o, whose side would u have been on?

musicwriter:
The other religions also believe theirs will also save them.

Again, I am already equal to Jesus and don't need to believe it. I cannot reduce myself to beliving Jesus. You can as well believe in me.

But I can - that’s what makes me more free and stronger than u r.

BTW all countries that are the most advanced and most innovative as well as democratic are all Christian and not any of these other religions u keep citing.

musicwriter:
A Muslim also has such faith. African spiritual system provide more assurance for such faith. A bhudist also has such faith. Therefore, you don't need Jesus to have such faith. However, such blind faith in the supernatural has put us so much in poverty in third world countries because it makes you abdicate from your power and give it to an unknown entity.

About me？ I don't need to pass through any medium to have such faith because I am already equal to your Jesus. I and Jesus are one.

I am comparing you and me, not anybody else. I have Lord Jesus. You have nothing. I believe he died for my sins and intercedes for me with God the father. I believe he is a living spirit within me and with whom I solidly belong. You belong nowhere.

All countries that are the most advanced as well as democratic are all Christian countries

iswallker:
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Airlifting people for free from SA was part of a larger image and money laundering enterprise...

Hmmm... you think he knew doomsday was coming?

blackboy:
If the government gives me N1b to supply toilet paper and I supply it, have i done wrong? FG takes the blame and the NASS and the law courts need to look into how contracts are awarded. EFCC needs to also visit BPP

If your friend in govt gives u an inflated contract and we catch u, we’ll publicly disgrace u both

booblacain:
The church will say he did not have enough faith or it is God's will.

So what’s your point?

daddytime:
Hmmm

Kingsley Kuku jejely cash out run go hide for UK.

It is well...

He is not totally free and clear. Things are bound to be revealed

Mightyhaiz:
Most if not all Nigerian billionaires made it from far more sordid means.. I wonder why these ppl are hellbent on pulling this good guy down...

Because he broke the most important commandment: DON’T GET CAUGHT!

We know they all steal from us but whoever is caught like Onyema is now caught, should be THOROUGHLY DISGRACED AND IF POSSIBLE JAILED!!

Almajiri1:
The takeaway here was that Obama and Biden are charging thousands of dollars for a photoshoot.

Fellow Nigerians, Is this not corruption? Shouldn't our government open the books of Obama foundation?

Did they get all the required permits? Did they pay tax on such monies?

Of course it is corruption but it didn’t break any of their laws and it was done openly

hammerD:
@naptu2

Is dis suppose to be evidence or conviction?


Do u want us to dig up wat was said about Bola Tinubu or even Buahri and PTA Funds?


Do u want us to dig up wat was said about Fashola, Ambode or even Sanwo?


The average Afonja have wat is called pull him down syndrome and it seems particularly worst wen they come into contact with Igbos.


I will like to see how it ends wen both extremes meet. i.e Afonja and IPOB

Please dig them up o.
I don’t care if they are Yoruba, let’s disgrace them too.
I know they all steal from us but whoever is caught like Onyema is now caught, should be THOROUGHLY DISGRACED AND IF POSSIBLE JAILED!!

yeyeosoronga:
Why are people making this a Nigerian vs Peace airline thing? It is America that is making allegations against the man that he committed some crimes in their land. Wetin concern any tribe with his fallout with the US government?
Of course Nigerians will talk about it, as it is very interesting gist, but it should be expected. Some will believe he is innocent and others will believe he is guilty. Its left for him to prove his innocence to the US government when they bring their own facts about the matter, preferably in court.
It's not such a big deal.
There are some fabulously wealthy Nigerians who's wealth isn't from the proceeds of crime, and there are more who's wealth is definitely from corrupt practices

Did u read the article?? The man connived with SA to Jonathan named Kuku to steal millions of $ from us.
I know they all steal but if one is caught, like Onyema is now caught he should be digraced and publicly shamed and if possible jailed.
ONYEMA STOLE OUR MONEY!!!
(I know they all steal but he’s been caught!)

So we now know without a doubt that Onyema was using our money stolen through Kuku to be posing as a genius businessman.

Niger Delta and Igbo amaka!!

musicwriter:
You're already born with salvation, so you don't need to get it from a European.

You're already free！！

You did not commit an ''original sin'', therefore, you don't need to be saved. All that are chains put on your mind to control you.

I am already saved. It is you that need to free yourself from the religious prison that has made you such a good slave.

Free your mind！！. Release yourself！！

Ok, let’s compare you and me:

1) I am free to do anything u r free to do, meaning I am exactly as free as u r EXCEPT I have other freedoms u don’t have.
2) I have called on the name of the Lord Jesus while under attack and miracles happened. You can’t do that - u don’t have that freedom.
3) I have a solid basis for faith in anything in I’m about to embark on, I can have the sense that I have a real almighty partner walking with me - u can’t
4) I have a sense of someone I can go to with my problems. You don’t
5) I have a sense of someone I can pour out my heart to, much like a psychiatrist, except better because he is almighty. You don’t.
6) If I want community I can join a church. I have an already made society I can join anytime I wish. You don’t
7) In a fight, I can have the sense that I can’t lose because I have an almighty person fighting with me. You can’t
08) In a thing I think supernatural attack or things I don’t understand, I AM NOT AFRAID AT ALL because I have sense I have someone greater than it. You don’t
I have someone I can pray to and call on anytime I wish. You don’t (if u claim u can pray to Sango, u r lying because u don’t really believe in Sango)
9 I can have peace of mind that I have someone watching over me and nothing that bad will ever happen to me. You can’t
10) I can have a sense of pleasing someone by doing good or being good - which can actually keep one out of prison. U can’t have that.
11) I can have a sense of being TOTALLY AND UNCONDITIONALLY LOVED by someone who lives within me. You can’t
12) Finally, since we have no way of knowing the true nature of the universe (we don’t even know if it is rea), anything is possible - if it turns out that salvation through acceptance of Christ is true, I also have that on top of all those other benefits.
Now tell me, what do u have??
I’m FREE to do and access all those things, u r not. Now tell me, who is more free??

** BTW your assertion that there are mistakes and inconsistencies in the Bible proves it was NOT written by Constantine, or he would have made sure there are no mistakes and inconsistencies in it!

musicwriter:
Now I know you're a church goer trying to convert me back to what I used to believe when I was a fool. But I already told you it was't called Christianity. Otherwise, if Christianity was already an established religion, why the comminique at the Nicea conference？

Yes, I want u to accept the gift of salvation - that Christ died for your sins, instead of baseless arguments predicated on LINATIC FRINGE STUFF!!