₦airaland Forum

abdddone:
BaarakaLlaahu feek brother.

I'm sure some sane and objective minds will pick from what you've said so far but I'm afraid you may not be able to help islamophobes

Wa'iyakum, brother.


They're full of hate to learn, I don't bother myself on them anymore.

cooljoe:
the law school rules which she knows explicitly states dat she can't have her hair covered for c2b. ignorance of d law is never an excuse, but equity can step in and grant u relief in ignorance of facts- an option still not available to her, cos she knew from d onset. bro's, d constitution is d ground norm, but d rules of d b council off legal education has not contravened it. so should I now say. because d constitution gives me a right. to freedom of speech- I have a right os slander someone? ur rights are subject to a lot of things. that's y dat same constitution always says say subject to so nd so or in pursuant to so nd so, or d provisions o so nd so notwithstanding. that is to tell u dat notn is absolute

I'll post a judgement of the law court for you and @Mapet to peruse.

Hope you guys will understand and tell the world the contradiction in their rule dress code to the constitution. If any in law is in disagreement with the constitution, it's void.

Yes, nothing is absolute. Even section 45 of the constitution states unequivocally when and why such right can be taken off an individual . The law school is acting outside that provisions and as people in law profession, they must be seen to be acting within the ambit of the law.

Courts have consistently held that, having regards to chapter 24:30-31 of the Holy Quran, a Muslim female has the unfettered right to wear her hijab anywhere.

The Court of Appeal Ilorin Division in the Unreported case of *THE PROVOST, KWARA STATE COLLEGE OF EDUCATION, ILORIN & 2 ORS VS BASHIRAT SALIU & 2 ORS Appeal No CA/IL/49/2006,
delivered on the 18th day of June, 2009, per Hussein Mukhtar, JCA,held at page 15 – 16 of the lead judgement thus:

“The foregoing verses of the Glorious Qur’an and Hadiths have left no room for doubt on the Islamic Injunction on women’s mode of dress, which is clearly in conformity with not only the Respondent’s veiled dress but also the controversial article J of the 3rd Applicants’ dress code. The use of veil by the respondents, therefore qualifies as a fundamental right under Section 38 (1) of the Constitution”.

The Court of Appeal further held per Massoud AbdulRahman Oredola, JCA at page 2 of the concurrent judgement;

“The right of the Respondents to wear their Hijab, veil within the School campus and INDEED ANYWHERE else is adequately protected under our laws. Human rights recognizes and protects religious rights. Section 38 of the
1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria guaranteed freedom of religion to all and sundry. Thus things that lawfully constitute OPEN MANIFESTATION, PROPAGATION, WORSHIP, TEACHING, PRACTICE AND OBSERVANCE of
the said religion are equally and by extension similarly guaranteed and protected by the Constitution. Indeed the Hijab, Niqab or Burqa, being part and parcel of Islamic code of dressing and by whatever standard a dignified
or vividly decent one cannot be taken away by any other law other than the Constitution”

Just last year, 2016, Justice Falola of the Osun State High Court restated the law as pronounced in the Court of Appeal decision above while delivering judgement in the case of Sheikh Oyinwola & Ors V The Governor of Osun state & Ors SUIT NO. HOS/M.17/2013 delivered on the 3rd of June, 2016. Bound by the time honoured principle of Judicial Precedent, the court held that the use of Islamically prescribed head cover called Hijab by the Muslim Female Students in all Primary and Secondary
Schools in Osun State forms part of their fundamental rights to
freedom of religion, conscience and thought as contained in Section
38 of 1999 Constitution of Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) and also declared that Article 8.2(v) of the “Guidelines on Administration
and Discipline in Osun State Public Schools“ issued by the Ministry
of Education prohibiting Muslim females from wearing hijab in public schools is not only discriminatory against Muslim female students but also uncalled for, inconsistent with Section 38 of 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and a clear violation of the fundamental rights of Muslim female
students in Public Schools in Osun State to freedom of religion and therefore null, void and of no effect whatsoever.

A month after, A specially constituted panel of the Court of Appeal sitting in Lagos on Thursday, July 21, 2016 unanimously reaffirmed its decision delivered in 2009 at Ilorin, Kwara state Division. It reversed the judgment of a Lagos State High Court in Ikeja which on October 17, 2014 banned the use of hijab in Lagos State public primary and secondary schools.
The appellate declared in a unanimous judgment on Thursday that the ban was discriminatory against Muslim pupils in the state.
It accordingly reinstated the use of hijab in Lagos schools.

Bifrost:
Are you by default ascribing the Xtian religion to me?

yes, bro.

Mynd44:
Lmaooooo.

You see some of us have come to understand that in every society, there are good and bad. There are shitty Musluns and shitty non-Muslins and like Tupac said "I am one black man; I cannot be held responsible for the actions of every black person.

It is ridiculous that you did not attack your friend there who is trying to whip this into a religious fight and whipping up Islamic sentiments and saying this is a fight against Islam as a religion when the former chairman NJC is a Muslim woman and did not find any need to change it.

When I have watch 3 students bounced out of a law class because they were in Hijab and it was not in accordance with the school's dress cod by a Muslim lecturer but then we have our own dissonance.

The day you realise this is about statutes and standards and not about religion, you will make a much better debate opponent but as long you think this is an attack on Islam, you are free to enjoy your own anger (as if that solves anything)

For now, I am not and cannot be part of some pointless back and forth. Let the NLS change their dress code which shoukd be what people fight against but while that silly dress code stays, every law student will have to follow it.

From the beginning, you have been the one citing a religious sect(cele) as your example. I've maintained the law as my guide throughout.
So, a guy telling you about an attack on Islam shouldn't be my issue. He saw you from a religious stance having cited "cele" , how Muslims forced people to wear hijab, if schools in enugu decides to enforce same rule against everyone in public schools, etc, these has shown your standpoint and expect the guy to see you from a bias position. This is not my fault.


Because those 3 students took it, doesn't mean fridaus should. Have you been able to prove she did not wear the hijab at law school?

Be explicit and tell me why a law school rule should be superior to our constitution.

There are good Muslims and there are bad ones - so it is with every religion or organization.

I have not seen this as an attack on Islam, but I don't want to see Christian define how we practice our religion; they should not be in competition with Muslims. And they feel we are doing something Islamic, they should initiate an Episcopal equivalence.

Injustice to one should be seen as injustice everywhere. Not throwing up some religious sentiment.

I do not advance religious argument in my discussion, if do that with me, I find an empty argument in you.


Let's be logical.

Mynd44:
Them not wearing black does not have to be written in the bible as long as it is written in the tebets of their church and can be verified.

The rest is just bla bla bla.

Ask the law school to remove the uniform totally. But this lady knew the rules, knew what and what it takes to be called to bar, attended 2 law dinner where she did not wear her hijad and suddenly remembered on the last day that she wanted to make a point.

Yeah right

read the judgement cited in the article. Lose sight of her religion, then you'd see she's not "wronged" the laws.

Courts have consistently held that, having regards to chapter 24:30-31 of the Holy Quran, a Muslim female has the unfettered right to wear her hijab anywhere.

The Court of Appeal Ilorin Division in the Unreported case of *THE PROVOST, KWARA STATE COLLEGE OF EDUCATION, ILORIN & 2 ORS VS BASHIRAT SALIU & 2 ORS Appeal No CA/IL/49/2006,
delivered on the 18th day of June, 2009, per Hussein Mukhtar, JCA,held at page 15 – 16 of the lead judgement thus:

“The foregoing verses of the Glorious Qur’an and Hadiths have left no room for doubt on the Islamic Injunction on women’s mode of dress, which is clearly in conformity with not only the Respondent’s veiled dress but also the controversial article J of the 3rd Applicants’ dress code. The use of veil by the respondents, therefore qualifies as a fundamental right under Section 38 (1) of the Constitution”.

The Court of Appeal further held per Massoud AbdulRahman Oredola, JCA at page 2 of the concurrent judgement;

“The right of the Respondents to wear their Hijab, veil within the School campus and INDEED ANYWHERE else is adequately protected under our laws. Human rights recognizes and protects religious rights. Section 38 of the
1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria guaranteed freedom of religion to all and sundry. Thus things that lawfully constitute OPEN MANIFESTATION, PROPAGATION, WORSHIP, TEACHING, PRACTICE AND OBSERVANCE of
the said religion are equally and by extension similarly guaranteed and protected by the Constitution. Indeed the Hijab, Niqab or Burqa, being part and parcel of Islamic code of dressing and by whatever standard a dignified
or vividly decent one cannot be taken away by any other law other than the Constitution”

Just last year, 2016, Justice Falola of the Osun State High Court restated the law as pronounced in the Court of Appeal decision above while delivering judgement in the case of Sheikh Oyinwola & Ors V The Governor of Osun state & Ors SUIT NO. HOS/M.17/2013 delivered on the 3rd of June, 2016. Bound by the time honoured principle of Judicial Precedent, the court held that the use of Islamically prescribed head cover called Hijab by the Muslim Female Students in all Primary and Secondary
Schools in Osun State forms part of their fundamental rights to
freedom of religion, conscience and thought as contained in Section
38 of 1999 Constitution of Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) and also declared that Article 8.2(v) of the “Guidelines on Administration
and Discipline in Osun State Public Schools“ issued by the Ministry
of Education prohibiting Muslim females from wearing hijab in public schools is not only discriminatory against Muslim female students but also uncalled for, inconsistent with Section 38 of 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and a clear violation of the fundamental rights of Muslim female
students in Public Schools in Osun State to freedom of religion and therefore null, void and of no effect whatsoever.

A month after, A specially constituted panel of the Court of Appeal sitting in Lagos on Thursday, July 21, 2016 unanimously reaffirmed its decision delivered in 2009 at Ilorin, Kwara state Division. It reversed the judgment of a Lagos State High Court in Ikeja which on October 17, 2014 banned the use of hijab in Lagos State public primary and secondary schools.
The appellate declared in a unanimous judgment on Thursday that the ban was discriminatory against Muslim pupils in the state.
It accordingly reinstated the use of hijab in Lagos schools.

Mynd44:
Being a lawyer is not a right. Issa privilege.

There is a difference

Se'un, dem don hack your moderator account.

Which privilege? What in life in the name of education is not a right but a privilege? And you took that line literally?

otivere:
Please any Muslim here should show where in the Quran female was instructed to to use hijab. I strongly believe muslim that wear it is because of the desert area and due to sand breeze that cause blindness. Same thing apply to Christians. Celestine Church of Christ don't wear shoe or sleepers to worship just because God instruct Moses to off his shoe. They will trek with foot from their house to church. Muslim and Christian needs understanding of the Bible and Quran

The quranic and constitutional backing you have below.


Chapter 24 verse 30-31 of the Glorious Holy Qur'an says:

“... Enjoin believing women to COVER THEIR GAZE and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that THEY SHOULD DRAW THEIR VEILS OVER THEIR BOSOMS AND NOT DISPLAY THEIR BEAUTY except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband’s father, their sons, their husband’s Sons, their brothers or their brother’s Sons or their sisters’ sons or other women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, ..."

It follows from the verse above that wearing of hijab by Muslim women is a Quranic injunction so a Muslim female is bound to obey it without question.

The next point is whether a Muslim female can capitalize on the provision of Glorious Qur’an to insist that she is entitled to wear Hijab everywhere. The answer is obviously in the affirmative.
Subsection (1) of section 38 of the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (2011 as amended), it provides as follows:

"Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion...and IN PUBLIC or IN PRIVATE) to MANIFEST AND PROPAGATE his RELIGION or BELIEF in worship, teaching, PRACTICE and OBSERVANCE" (emphasis mine)

Mynd44:
1. One of the things I have never wanted or asked of anyone is personal respect. Dont out me on some pedestal or think me to be what I am not. It is actually disgusting. Holding me to whatever standards is strictly your business.

I do not hold you to any "supernatural" status - you're a creation filled with flaws just like everyone. But the common sense of discernment that's innate is thrown away and here is my pain.

Mynd44:
2. What law has she violated? The laws of the school she attends she has gone through at least 6 years trainning to be a lawyer and not once has she written a petition or tried to raise a protest againt the system that has been there and suddenly tries to start a pity party. The rules of her school says do this, while I consider the ruke ridiculous, breaking the rule is wrong and should draw its own consequences. Simple.

If tomorrow, the dress code is removed and she wants to go to her call to bar in her hijab, thats her concern but as long at that silly dress code stands, that rule also stands

she hasn't broken any law and by dressing the way she did , she has fought a just cause and constitution given its due supremacy over any "law school rules" .

Bifrost:
Which makes Both religions bloodsucking. QED.

those that live in glass house shouldn't throw stones. Check your religion before attacking others.

KanuJEWSarePIGS:
Aww!

This is why I love the Bible more:


"Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor" Exodus 32:27

Numbers 31:17 "Now therefore, KILL EVERY MALE AMONG THE LITTLE ONES , AND KILL EVERY WOMAN WHO HAS KNOWN MAN INTIMATELY . 18 "BUT all the GIRLS who have not known man intimately, SPARE FOR YOURSELVES "

The last verse sweet die

sweet verses everywhere.

Mynd44:
Nah. Not by dusty winds.

Most dress codes by religions from Asia to Arabia is basically due to men wanting to control the sexuality of women. It is basically men wanting women to look less attractive, wanting to take away power from them to decide on what and what not to wear and take away their confidence.

It is a way to hold women down

You're very funny!
You now appear more emotional and turn facts on their heads.

Orpe7:
I believe this Hijab of a thing started cus of the dusty winds in the middle east. So ladies can protect their hair. Now them don turn am to norm

read, brother, read.

seunmsg:
This is Nigeria and not Kenya. Call to bar is not call to prayers. The lady in question should learn to dress appropriately for each occasion.

seeing you and mynd44 throwing away what I hold of you guys on this issue is painful to me.


Take away religion, tell me which of our law this lady has violated.


I remember the case of a girl flogged by a Catholic priest for her dressing the way she did even though she was not badly dressed. I stood against that maltreatment whenever I had the opportunity.

Take religion away, tell me the law she's to abide by here.

Let's not act like liberates with cryptic illiteracy.

Bifrost:
Isn't that a flat out contradiction in itself?

it's a contradiction cos you've filled your head with some verses you literally took off the Quran without knowing the reason behind their revelation.


Zero contradiction.

Oyinda32:
So President Buhari's family is the Yardstick for Islamic Judgment ? OP oya receive sense

I don't know what's wrong with them.

benuejosh:
The laws of the Land MUST be kept. Cover a hijab and be called to bar at your own law school. Kudos to law school for keeping up the standards.

which law? Enumerate , please.

alexmaye:
Well done!!! She knows the rules and adheres to it. Caseless come and see buhari's daughter o

Ordinarily, you'd expect buhari's daughter to go the way of everyone simply to avoid the wrong belief of breaking the law cos she's the president's daughter you guys will naturally hold against her and call her father unprintable names.

She(halima) can't even tell you Firdaus is wrong for putting on hijab - either by law of the land or that of religion.

That Buhari's daughter doesn't wear hijab doesn't mean others shouldn't.


Tell me, which law has Fridaus broken?

In the day of jijo shina...I was a dancing genius/ gbese kan soke soke.

Jigi jigi
Maradona
Shaba
Sicker
Ojukokoro....etc, etc.


Common, I'm a fan.

HBD!

Larrey:
But no be she create herself now. She's created by God

you de find that ugly donkey called Jesse01...

Jesse01:
but he is right na, d lady is not fyne.

box head, let's see your picture or that of your gf

Trumpism:
I am a great supporter of Atiku, but using the name of Fr. Ejike Mbaka for propaganda is very bad. Just as I cannot use the name of Usman Bauchi or TB Joshua for propaganda, no body should try this again.

Mbaka is my Spiritual leader and no one should bring him to a disrepute.

Mbaka Adoration is from Friday night till dawn. So, where and when did he say this? Thursday night or Friday Morning? Nononoooooooo!

Please Please Please leave Mbaka out. The Southeast is already there for Atiku no doubt about it!

Signed by a member of Trumpism.

If you join Trumpism, we will allow you to use our page to post any political cause you want whether APC or PDP as we are non political organisation!

I don't believe mbaka said this. These are not his words.

otokx:
As usual, the so called leaders, their children are outside Nigeria enjoying while they are telling us things will get better.

this is the real issue.

adams123:
she didn't disobey any part of Nigeria constitution, rather she applied the Nigeria constitution to the later by executing section 38 of Nigeria constitution which guarantee freedom to religion.
Note! Nigeria constitution is supreme to law school act or any other act in Nigeria.

those illiterates kept calling laws they know nothing about.

mgbadike81:
the law must be upheld until we decide to change it. I just did a Google search and Americans surely don't have a dress code for lawyers, I also noticed from the picture that the lady was not even in the middle of a ceremony when she snapped that picture. Catholic nuns who are lawyers respect the legal dress code so while should Muslims raise dust over a dress code that they have been respecting even before independence? pointless religion in this country is a major cause of violence and backwardness.

go back and research more.

Origin:
Apparently Nigeria's sovereignty is based on the commonwealth. Talk another thing I beg.


Even if you see evidence of a British hijabi being called to the bar, you will still disagree based on bias.

The similitude of this is:

Why is Nelson Mandela fighting when his people have been enslaved for centuries. Failing to call that lady to the bar is UNJUST.

I just showed him a Sikh UK judge.

mgbadike81:
lawyers in the USA doesn't wear the wig and gown,they don't even have a specific dress code because I have seen American lawyers appear in court dressed in blue suits.I want to see lawyers in Britain and other secular Commonwealth countries with a similar dress code with Nigeria admit a female lawyer wearing a hijab then I would take this serious.

first is Sikh judge in the UK in his turban on a judicial function.

Second is a lawyer in the UK .

bigtt76:
Don't mind those people complaining. The girl's photo doesn't even show that a ceremony was taking place at that particular moment the photograph was taken naaa

I always know you to be headless. Until you see trump at her back before you will believe an event held.

desreek9:
It doesnt state where you should disobey the law of the country

which law?

zionmde:
Rubbish
U spend 6yrs studying Nigeria law only to decide to disobey the law at the end. If the Nigerian law profession is not good for their kind of Islam, why study it?
Islam permits beating of someone's wife, so assuming this girl becomes a judge and the issue of assault is brought to her by a hajiya, she will place the tenets of Quran above the law.

She is better off studying Islamic studies. Secular law is a haram, as long as the quran is not the Constitution, rather the Constitution was coined by unbelievers, then she has no business with it. She should have concentrated on becoming a sharia lawyer.

HYPOCRITES

give us that Nigerian law that says she shouldn't dress as she did.


Or I will call you stupid names.

Mynd44:
Sir/ma, this is about the dress code of one person. Do not make this about anyone hating Islam else it will open the door for the atrocities Muslims have committed against non Muslims.

We can as well start by taking into account how many non muslims have been killed as a result of religious hate in predominatly Muslim areas of Nigeria against how many Muslims have been hurt in predominatly Non-Muslim areas.

Don't make this about what it is not else you will invite another topic that you are really not ready to discuss

Good! Now you're coming out clean instead of hiding under law school rules, you're here as what we think.

I want to discuss this if you can prove your facts and figure.

oyiboeru:
IS THE LAW SCHOOL ABOVE NIGERIAN CONSTITUTION?

just my question.

Mynd44:
See arguments based on emotions are just funny. Do you want non Muslims to raise the issue of thousands of non-Muslims girls in secondary schools in the north who are forced to wear hijabs? Because this is true. They are told if they cannot wear hijab, they cannot register and attend government schols which are funded by funds from the federation account

Do you want the issue of Northern Unis and Polytecnics denying Christians their right to a religion by the school not granting them permission to build churches?

Lol...you're becoming more emotional and less factual.

Give us the name of the schools and their locations. The kind of churches we have in our campus, no institution in the south or Christian dominated areas will allow Muslims put up such in their school.

I give you as an assignment, check the whole of southern Nigeria , if there's any mosque occupying the swathe of land chapel and the Catholic Church in A.B.U Zaria are occupying. Check again to see if any mosque of that size has been put up anywhere(they've not allowed this). Go to Kongo campus and you'd see another mighty church there. Go to that same campus and see the mosque.

Have you forgotten in the SW of those days, students with Muslim names were forced to remove it before they could enjoy free education or admitted into the missionary schools? Do you know how many Muslims in such schools were forced to say the Christian prayers and other Christian stuff they recite at the assembly ground?

Sanusi lamido attended a Christian primary school( St. Ann or something) and he was made to be part of everything even as he's a Muslim from an Islamic royal home?

There's no public institution in the Muslim dominated areas(north in this case) that does not have mosques and churches.
There is no government school in the north where Christians are forced to wear hijab. If there is, give names and locations.

Mynd44:
What will you do if schools in Enugu demolish the Mosques and primary and secondary schools in Abia make dressing like nuns compulsory?

See the path you want to go is a slippery slope. Go there and I will drag you down that slope

You talk as if you have mosques in every institution in enugu or the whole of SE.

I was the Muslim "corper' liaison officer in my LG where I served, for years, Muslims have tried to put up a place to pray and this has been rejected by the locals . This happened in abia state . So many other ugly story from other Corp members who faced worst experience cos they're Muslims.

I've been to every state in the south, and even did my service there, so I know what I'm saying. I won't sit in my room and bring up conjecture just like you're doing.