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MissOpe:
You think trump has time for that one....
After naming Nigeria a country of particular concern, i guess thats where it ends...

Aww bless you. I'd love to live under the same rock you're living under but reality is staring at us in full and complete HD but we're conditioned and programmed to look away because that's what is expected of us - LOOK AWAY

MissOpe:
How will Nigeria bear the brunt of Trump's ego?

Is there no "Christian genocide" going on in Nigeria anymore?

amaridigital:
Any attempt by Trump to attack Nigeria or any other countries after the recent humiliation of the US will ultimately lead to his impeachment even by Republicans trust me.
All allies rejected the US plead for help and now the US has to beg Iran to end this

USA is not going to attack Nigeria in the sense of an all out war. We have nothing militarily other than "the blood of Jesus" The invasion of Venezuela and subsequent kidnap of Maduro was about resource control, the current war in Iran is about resource control. Attempt at invading Greenland is about resource control. Imminent invasion of Cuba is about resource control. So is the "Christian genocide" narrative in Nigeria. It's all about resource theft and political control, if you follow trends and connect dots, then you'll understand it.

In Nigeria specifically, USA (& Co) is the disease positioning itself as the medicine, it's the same old playbook. Regarding Trump's impeachment, if he doesn't find a way to withdraw from Iran, then he risks impeachment because the war is so unpopular even among the MAGA base and there's a high chance that he'll lose the midterm election in November especially because of this Iran war.

MaxInDHouse:
Instead of cherry picking what you like just come out openly and say you don't believe the Bible.
I can take you from there it's not just about quoting the Bible Christianity is to help everyone so if you don't believe the Bible i will not quote it for you again then we can go for LOGICAL REASONING! 🙂

Talk about cherrypicking, which part of "I was born into a Christian family, attended church every single Sunday right from when I was only a few weeks old until I was approaching age 20" did you miss? Is basic comprehension now a problem too?

Going on about cherrypicking, I put forward some arguments, you're only picking the ones you want to respond to. I hinted that, if a book is going to serve as my spiritual guide, it should at least stand up to scrutiny rather than blindly following like a lost dummy.

I explicitly mentioned that I'd prefer to reason christianity and by extension, the bible logically, you evaded that and went on to quote redundant Bible verses. Essentially you failed the first basic test of logical reasoning. Christianity (Or Jehovah witness) specifically is meant for people like you. Sit down my friend.

MaxInDHouse:
First of all God never intended political and tribal chaos that's man's doing.
Secondly Christianity supposed to be just one global group having the same teaching everywhere they are. John 17:22
So don't think all these religions claiming Christians belong to the true God in fact due to the atrocities they've committed in that group name the true God has given His own worshipers another group name today that's why you have JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES {Isaiah 65:15} fulfilling all the things God promised that His worshipers will do in the end time! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂

I know your type. Bugger off.

Neddstark:
There will be talks behind the scene and part of the negotiators for peace are the Gulf Nations who have been praying for a jon escalation of the conflict. I'm glad peace is coming.

Usually there are talks behind the scenes but Iran is saying they DID NOT speak to Trump's team either directly or indirectly. "Indirectly" meaning not through any negotiators or any other party. I know which side I trust.

MaxInDHouse:
When God used the confusion about language to scatter people in Babel {Genesis 11:6-9} He knew it will lead to more chaos because ambitious people who wants to rule over their neighbors will seize the opportunity of language to create barriers as they use tribalism to draw followers behind them.
So God later promised to gather loyal and obedient humans from all the nations under the heavens and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The person who will teach mankind how to achieve this is the Christ that is why he is rightly called the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} his teachings will make it possible for faithful people from all nations to become like brothers and sisters under his school of thought. Matthew 28:19-20

The formation of this global family will serve as WITNESS that the Prince of Peace has played his own part in getting obedient humans ready for their salvation. Act 1:8

So by the time Satan and his countless demons is ousted from heaven {Revelation 12:7-12} the earth will no longer know peace because they will possess billions of people turning them to killers of their neighbors {Revelation 6:3-4} but the United family of peace loving worshipers under Christ will have used what Jesus taught them to blot out hatred for their neighbors from their hearts {Matthew 5:43-48} so they will love their neighbors as they love themselves {Mark 12:31} and have love for their fellow worshipers just as Jesus was ready to die for the love of his followers. That is what will serve as identifying mark of obedient humans who are loyal followers of Christ! John 13:34-35

Today only one religious group meet up with this task globally known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's why all the rest are always seeking ways to speak against this one group for their unwavering faith. Matthew 5:11-12

So if any religion is claiming Christians today but failed to meet up with this task Jesus said those organizing them are false! Matthew 7:15-20

Thanks for your time!

Sorry to say but this is a whole lot of gibberish sandwich. In your submission, you're implying that "God" intended political and tribal chaos. You're also implying that true Christianity must exist as one visible, unified global organisation when in fact, Many christians (maybe not in Nigeria) believe that unity is spiritual and not institutional.

Your biggest leap is the exclusive identification in your submission, it's pretty much like you're saying “Only Jehovah’s Witnesses fulfil this”. And I've heard a lot of those from the Mormons too, and the RCCG, and the Deeper Life etc. What you're doing here is selecting bible verses, connecting them into a narrative to back a denominational claim.

If you want to debate Christianity with me, debate with at least a small iota of logic and intelligence rather than bible verses. Again, the texts in the Bible (At least KJV that I've studied extensively) does not stand up to scrutiny. Don't come back quoting bible verses. And maybe you mind answering my questions about "Adam and Eve" and "Garden of Eden"? Or have I lost you there?

But Tehran said they there's been no direct communication with the US nor through an intermediary. Who actually did Trump speak to? Eating up his own words as usual?

Looking at it from a different but connected lens, the market is currently in shambles and I believe Trump’s post about talking to Iran is about stabilising the market for this week at least to avoid a global meltdown. His statement is meant to manipulate the market. He’s going to resume attacks over the weekend when the markets are closed. But that’s not sustainable, how long is he going to keep up with the manipulation? He’s backed into a corner that he can’t get out of.

I'll take this as a win for Iran, it's Cuba and Nigeria that will bear the brunt of United States bruised ego. Buckle up guys, it's about to get interesting.

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't study the Bible there is no way you can understand what Christianity is all about.

The Bible God made a promise about Christianity right in the garden of Eden after the fall of Adam and throughout the Bible God continued to remind His loyal worshipers that He will bring this lasting solution for the salvation of mankind.

There is one purpose for which faith in Christ was established so if you don't know that purpose of course any religion claiming Christians will be so to you that's why you need to STUDY not just read the Bible! Proverbs 2:1-5

Bro you can't preach to a pope. I was born into a Christian family, attended church every single Sunday right from when I was only a few weeks old until I was approaching age 20 thereabout back in Nigeria so I certainly studied the Bible and I can confidently dissect the book for you. Apart from attending Bible study classes, I studied independently.

I like how you mentioned "The Bible God", and that's exactly my point, it's "The Bible God". Inconsistencies and contradictions are abound in that book which I can point out to you. For a book that is meant to be a moral and spiritual guide, it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. When you said "The garden of Eden" and "The fall of Adam". Do you or does the Bible mean it literally or figuratively? I mean was Adam (and Eve) real people? Is the Garden of Eden somewhere physical or is it more of an allegory?

You said there's one purpose for which faith in Christ was established, do you mind telling me this purpose?

JuanDeDios:
Brilliant take. But I think this is a matter of perspective. I mean, Christianity isn't Ethiopian. It also CAME TO them. Just that it came to them before us and under different circumstances.

Of course it's a matter of perspective, and you're right - christianity came to them too because Ethiopia before Christianity believed in many gods which is tied nature and ancestors but I'd still regard them as a christian nation in a contemporary sense. Even in the Bible, in the Acts of Apostles, an Ethiopian official is baptized by Philip the Evangelist, so that suggests christianity probably reached their region before it even became official. So yes christianity came to them too, it just depends on how far back you want go.

Christianity in Nigeria on the other hand is nothing like the Orthodox christianity in terms of doctrine. The version of christianity in Nigeria is European version and when they came to spread it, they didn't have good intentions. The religion is a clown show nowadays in Nigeria (I mean it has always been a clown show). People don't think. They've outsourced critical thinking skills to Jesus and the bible.

JuanDeDios:
Why is EOC excepted?

Because Christianity has been present there since at least the 4th century and it remains one of the oldest uninterrupted Christian traditions in the world. Ethiopian orthodox christianity is entirely different to christianity practised in Nigeria. Also the Ethiopian Bible is complete unlike other versions such as KJV which has 66 books, Ethiopian Bible has 81. They include the likes of Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilees, Meqabyan etc.

Evangelical Christianity in other parts of Africa, including Nigeria was a tool of colonialism, and it's a psyop operation nowadays. That's not a religion I'll take seriously.

Miggs:
Nigerians are generally stoopid so i hardly waste my time interacting with you lot. Except Hezbollah,the other groups you listed are sponsored by the U.S.A,European forces,Saudi Arabia & Qatar but i am aware as the stoopid person you are,you will not accept this reality

@bolded. Nigerians don't want to hear that Almighty and adored USA or Sophisticated France or Holy Israel or Dear Britain or Rich noble Saudi Arabia and Qatar are indeed behind their problems and the terrorism in Africa. Hamas in Palestine, Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthis in Yemen are all about resisting imperialists, nothing else.

They've never terrorised anyone, and apart from that, Hezbollah and Houthis are Shia muslims, they strongly condemn terrorism or oppression, Hamas are Sunni moslems but not extremists and they too condemn Islam extremism. Extremists in Nigeria and the Sahel region including Al-Shabab in East Africa all pledge allegiance to ISIS. Both ISIS and Al-Qaeda are a creation of America perpetuated by Israel and Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

The evidences are there in the open if Nigerians bothered to look, but why bother to look when they enjoy their shackles? why bother to look when they can instead discuss who's richer between Davido and Wizkid. I give up educating these numpties ngl.

Follow back.

Well, Strait of Hormuz has no gate. If you're not an ally, you can still attempt to pass through, just that your ship will sink

Anthony Joshua better not be aligning with the political gimmicks of the terrorist regime of Ukraine. It's not going to end well for him.

Then panic mode is an understatement when warmongering zionist media outlets like Huffingtonpost, Sky News, Wall Street Journal etc turns against you. This war will end on Iran's terms, nothing less than that. Oh and mid term election is in 8 months, it's looking like he will lose the Congress. Trump has EVERY reason to be very nervous.

Can't wait to watch Pete Hegseth's next briefings. Bunch of demonic clowns.

Sermwell:
So the Gulf states will just clap of Iran after the bombing right?

What are you insinuating? Iran has been striking their oil facilities, there's a reason they didn't retaliate because they know if they do, the entire gulf states becomes GROUND ZERO. That's when you'll know that the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc are desert land propped up by USA through the petrodollar system.

The Strait of Hormuz is shut, that's the passage for majority of oil from the Gulf states, Around 90% of their entire economy is from oil and gas. They have the most to lose, so yes, they can go ahead and strike back, let's check something, because some of you don't know history and don't do any sort of research or have any clue about geopolitics but come online to ask dvmb questions to masquerade ignorance while pretending to be knowledgeable.

Strike their power plants and they will strike the Gulf's desalination plants where more than 90% of the Gulf states gets their drinking water from. Also Iran has about 500 power plants while the entire Israel has only around 15. US and Israel can go ahead and strike Iran's power plant so that we can check something.

An African in this day and age, calling themselves christian is still a mystery to me. With the exception of the Ethiopian orthodox christianity of course.

State of emergency? The buildings are still standing though

I can see they're wearing rings on their finger. Hope they have 72 more rings each in their pockets.

Ukraine will eventually turn to a nation of women only eventually. Their men has either been killed in war, currently in war, fled the country or waiting to be picked up by the roadside to go fight in a war.

Starboytwo:
My question is Are these guys Muslims??

Like, I don’t understand.

Do we have different kind of Muslims cuz my Mum is Muslim?? And I know some Muslims here in Lagos .

They all read the Quran, my Mum inclusive. Or is there different Quran

There are two sects of Islam. You have the Sunni Islam and the Shia Islam. Most Nigerians muslims practices the Sunni sect of Islam. Within the Sunni sect, there's a movement called Salafi. Salafism has a range of followers, there's the quietists Salafi, political Salafi and extremist Salafi.

Quietists Salafis focuses on personal piety, they avoid politics
Political Salafis engage in governance and activism
Extremist Salafis endorse violence.

Both political salafis and quietist salafis and the general Sunni Islam condemns the extremist salafism.

Extremists Salafis are the Jihadists which groups like Boko Haram, ISWAP, Al-Shabab, JNIM, ISIS etc belongs to.

Just like there are violences in the Old Testament of the bible, ordained and instructed by "God", Quran also contain passages about violence in specific historical contexts. However, jihadist-salafis selectively interpret certain Quranic verses and elevate them into a doctrine of violence, which is not how mainstream Muslims understand the text.

These Jihadist salafists have been around for a while, their violence is largely contained and very controllable until USA, France, Israel, etc started funding them, using them as a political tool of conquest and destabilisation. Hope you understand?

Intelligence on what exactly? Because it's certainly not intelligence on terrorists.

Great development but Nigeria should be focusing on getting to the source rather than killing a head of ISWAP, Boko Haram or whatever. They will just choose another leader and the cycle continues. This isn't a victory, Victory comes when the funding stops completely.

At least they are now coming out one by one to tell the truth. Now we're waiting for Kuwait, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Dubai to say the same thing. Till then, enjoy the drones and missiles on your oil and gas fields.

Well, when Netanyahu hit Iranian oilfield, Trump said he knew nothing about it, IDF said Trump certainly knew about it, Netanyahu in his press conference yesterday said Trump didn't know about it. Is it that they can't maintain coordination since both USA and Israel now seems to have different strategic but linked objective in Iran. Is it a ploy to convince Iran not to launch a retaliatory strikes on Israel's oil field?

SpecialAdviser:
I created a thread where I tried to teach Nigeria why Trump is the 21st century genius leader but a lot didnt understand.

You can read below

https://www.nairaland.com/8639129/iran-should-double-down-attacks#138835864

Absolute pile of nothing sandwich. Trump doesn't need to convince any American that NATO allies are exploiting America but Trump cannot pull out of NATO without Congressional approval and congress knows exactly what America is using NATO for and NATO no longer serve its purpose. They don't need convincing. Congress disapproves the war against Iran so what test are you talking about?

America is $40 Trillion in debt and growing, $1 trillion was wiped out of the US stock market today alone, they've used strategic military assets that can't be replaced as fast as they are used. There is a very high chance that they will be kicked out of the Gulf states after this war. Do you know what that means? How exactly is America going to come out the war a stronger nation?

US officials are furiously trying to avert a potential months long closure of the Strait of Hormuz, they are privately acknowledging that reopening the key waterway is a huge problem without a clear solution. Do you know what you are talking about? Have you been keeping in touch with developments rather than headlines? Should I signpost you to the United States National Security Strategy Document 2026 so that you will have some idea of where the world is going before giving some beer parlour geopolitics analysis?

madridguy:
Starmer has become Trump’s puppet.

Both Starmer and Trump (especially) are both Netanyahu's puppet.

I said it earlier, they will join in one by one. That means the British base in Cyprus and Diego Garcia is going to be hammered by Iranian and allied drones and missiles. That's if they don't send some to London. If we are not in WWIII already, this is the prequel to it. Most people really don't have an idea how much the world is about to change.