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Christianity Etc › Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Caveatemptor(m): 9:13pm On Jul 30, 2023
One can see examples of these different sources when comparing similar biblical stories. For example, the Creation myth of Genesis 1:1 has God/Elohim create the world, then Genesis 2:5–25 has God/Yahweh make the world; these two Creation myths differ from each other on both substantive and stylistic issues. There are other places in which the biblical narrative covers the same ground two or more times. For example, in Genesis there are three stories in which a patriarch fools a foreign king about the status of the patriarch’s wife, claiming her instead to be his sister. This event is reported between Abraham and Pharaoh over Sarah (12:10–20), with Abraham and Abimelekh over Sarah (20:2–18), and with Isaac and Abimelekh over Rebekah (26:1–11). Moreover, there are two Flood stories in Genesis 7: in the first only certain animals (e.g., seven pairs of clean animals and seven pairs of birds) are brought onto the Ark (Genesis 7:2–3), while in the second all living animals are brought in pairs to the Ark (Genesis 7:8–9 and 7:14–16).

These and other indications have persuaded biblical scholars that there are four strands interwoven in the Pentateuch: the Yahwist, Elohist, Deuteronomist, and Priestly—hence J, E, D, and P. The Yahwist’s account, written in the time of David and Solomon around 950 BCE, asks these questions about the Jewish empire: For what purpose was this empire created? For how long will it exist? Why was the gift of the empire granted to the Jews? J is a firm and final statement. At this point in history, the Jews looked backward in time to account for the period of greatness at hand. The Yahwist’s account, produced at the height of the glory of the Davidic monarchy, told the story of the federation of the tribes of Israel, now a single kingdom under Solomon—with a focus on Zion and Jerusalem, the metropolis of the federation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Caveatemptor(m): 8:07pm On Jul 30, 2023
ReacherSaidNoth:
Childhood indoctrination is a powerful chain most find difficult to break inspite of education.
Quite frankly I think it is more than the indoctrination. More of the fear of the unknown. There is really no proof of the existence of gods nor is there really any proof for their non existence. Most people probably just want to be on the safe side incase hell is real! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Caveatemptor(m): 8:02pm On Jul 30, 2023
Veecruz:
Does ability to do anything prevent the stopping and taking a rest?
An omnipotent being taking a rest is a contradiction in itself. huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Caveatemptor(m): 8:44am On Jul 30, 2023
What does it for me is this verse in chapter two. How does an omnipotent god have to rest?
I have always been worried about this verse even when I was a child.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 4:22pm On Jun 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ those Jews have short themselves in the foot! cheesy

Tell them to stop calling their city "Jerusalem" after all there is no J in their writing; grin
They are talking of your god, who nobody knows how to pronounce his name and yet he has refused to appear to enlighten his subjects on what he is called, you are here talking of names of a city.
See how off tangent you are in this discussion. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Obey Your Pastor by Caveatemptor(m): 1:03pm On Jun 24, 2023

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 9:40am On Jun 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ go to Israel today.

1,000 Jewish rabbis has unanimously agreed that JEHOVAH is the correct pronunciation of the name of their God!

So if an atheist like you is arguing know today that it's by the use of that name that what God promised has come true:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4

In the name of JEHOVAH millions throughout the earth are joyfully fulfilling what you just read but as an atheist you won't agree since you can't see the God who is working out this wonder! Zechariah 4:6
WRONG! WRONG!! WRONG!!!

Christianity Etc › Re: When A Believer Starts Lying.. by Caveatemptor(m): 9:15am On Jun 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The guy himself is a LIAR!
There are only twelve chosen apostles of Christ and they're to coordinate the Israelites in doing God's will {Luke 22:30} the last apostle was chosen to connect people of the nations to Christ Jesus {Act 9:15; Galatians 2:7} there is no other apostle after Paul so the guy in the video is a LIAR!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 9:05am On Jun 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You're now short of words shey?

Well Jehovah is a transliteration of the four consonants "YHWH" just as the name "Jesus" is also a transliteration of the word "Yehoshua"

So the point here is that the God of Abraham has a specific name not Elohim! smiley

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 8:37am On Jun 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
OK you're ready to talk shey?

Well you're welcome!

Elohim means "my God" and since each person isn't talking about the same God it means those called elohim are many:

For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 1Corinthians 8:5

I know you're trying to change the subject by mentioning Jehovah's Witnesses so everyone may pick one thing or another against JWs but please stay on course!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 8:19am On Jun 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
"Elohim" means "my God"
So names like Samuel, Daniel, Ezekiel and so on has to do with Elohim.
Elohim means gods or pantheon of gods or children of El-the most high God.
You are wrongly translating these words,the same way jehovahs witness wrongly translated the name Jehovah.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 7:07am On Jun 24, 2023
Dantedasz:
The questions you should be asking yourself is DID YAHWEH steal the characteristics of EL and from a pantheon of smaller gods become the main GOD?

And what does ELOHIM mean?
What does GABRIEL mean?
What does BETHEL mean?
What does MICHAEL mean?

All these things are available for research in this modern age.

Like I said I am done on this thread. Open fresh thread and call me to it and I may respond if you are polite. Good morning.
Watch how they will continue to dodge this critical question. grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 7:55pm On Jun 22, 2023
Harshirama:
I haven't posted an explanation, have I? Proverbs says only a fool judges a matter without hearing it first
huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 6:27pm On Jun 22, 2023
TheMadame:
Why does the God of the old testament appear to have a different character from the God of the new testament?
You are wasting your time.
They have no answers,
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 6:20pm On Jun 22, 2023
Harshirama:
Different as how?
grin grin

Lol.
OP, is this question not funny?
This is how they will avoid the simple question,but will drive you mad with their asinine and absurd answers.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 6:02pm On Jun 22, 2023
TheMadame:
Please come straight.
There is only one God in the old testament and the new testament. Only the character is different. You are confusing me with this your many God's.
I told you that your thread was DOA. Call out all those always running their mouths and see of they can answer your questions. They will only view your thread and run away. They have no answers.
Only a brain dead person will claim that there is no dichotomy between the god of the old testament and the new testament.
CALL THEIR MONIKERS OUT!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 4:05pm On Jun 22, 2023
TheMadame:
I Disagree.
We will get robust and enlightened posts on this thread.
Okay.
When you don't get any responses, I will suggest you mention specific moniker. Except that,you are on a long thing. Christian's Always 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♀️ 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♀️ run Away from rational debates. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 3:49pm On Jun 22, 2023
TheMadame:
I don't believe this. Stop generalising.
I am sure someone can explain the puzzle.
Madam,
Your thread is DEAD on arrival.
Watch them avoid the thread like the ten plagues of Egypt. grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The God In The New Testament Different? by Caveatemptor(m): 3:38pm On Jun 22, 2023
TheMadame:
Good day to my brothers and sisters in Christianity. May the Lord be with all of us. May the Lord refresh us and give us the knowledge to attain everlasting life in heaven.
Please I write to seek knowledge on a topic which distressed me. This is the dichotomy between the God of the new testament and God in the old testament of our holy Bible.
The God in the Old testament comes across as very angry over issues,while the God of new testament comes across as kind and loving . Benevolent, forgiving, blessing and the father of all creation,while the old testament of the Bible reflects God as only for the nation of Israel. I welcome any explanation with Bible passages to enlighten
God bless as you contribute to this discourse. Apologies for poor spelling and please let us avoid insulting language.
Thank you.
No Christian can answer this your question. They will only dance around the question and tell you that god works in a mysterious way. Or they will start a fight to disrupt and disorganise your thread because they don't have any answers.
Car Talk › Re: Most Reliable Car You've Ever Owned? by Caveatemptor(m): 8:09am On Jun 17, 2023
Ojuroye:
Wait same Illela wey dey sokoto?

You rugged o
The car is what is rugged.
Me I just drive for pleasure, although at that point in my life I was working at Illela and I had been officially transfered to Calabar.
So I drove to our family house in Lagos ,dropped off some things and then drove the car to Calabar a few days later.
Car Talk › Re: Most Reliable Car You've Ever Owned? by Caveatemptor(m): 4:14pm On Jun 15, 2023
Audi 80 1990 sedan car.
Extremely rugged car.
I drove that car from Illela to Lagos and a day later from Lagos to Calabar.
I used that car for three years and never had a major fault or major repair. Just normal servicing and change of oil.
The body is strong like iron.
Later sold it to a guy who used it as a taxi in Edo state.
That car strooong.💪
Politics › Re: Suspended EFCC Boss, Bawa Smiling At The Villa, Shortly Before He Was Suspended by Caveatemptor(m): 9:36am On Jun 15, 2023
OlujobaSamuel:
I'm referring to just their boss, not the whole structure.
You know nothing about Hameed Ali.
Politics › Re: Suspended EFCC Boss, Bawa Smiling At The Villa, Shortly Before He Was Suspended by Caveatemptor(m): 9:34am On Jun 15, 2023
OlujobaSamuel:
Fire all of them. You can retain customs and NDLEA, those ones no get flies chasing them up-and-down
Some of you know nothing about customs except the propaganda you read in newspapers. The customs boss has concessioned the customs revenue to his stooges for the next 100 years. That means he has sold the customs to himself through proxies. The customs under Hameed Ali is a huge can of worms waiting to EXPLODE!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Random Musings On Religion. by Caveatemptor(m): 4:12am On Jun 10, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Again, What is your understanding of freewill and how does the concept of an All-knowing God counter your idea of freewill? undecided
The schizophrenia has eaten deep into you. You probably skipped your injections AGAIN. kiss
Christianity Etc › Re: Random Musings On Religion. by Caveatemptor(m): 3:53am On Jun 10, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Again, What is your understanding of freewill and how does the concept of an All-knowing God counter your idea of freewill? undecided
It seems you are missing a screw somewhere or you have comprehension issues?
I usually try to avoid you and I would suggest you do the same.
Christianity Etc › Re: Random Musings On Religion. by Caveatemptor(m): 3:42am On Jun 10, 2023
Kobojunkie:
What is your understanding of freewill and how does the concept of an All-knowing God counter your idea of freewill? undecided
Look, I have told you severally. I would really appreciate it if you did not quote me. Talking to someone like you is like slamming my head on a brick wall!
Christianity Etc › Re: Random Musings On Religion. by Caveatemptor(m): 3:34am On Jun 10, 2023
Anas09:
Pray, pray, I repeat pray that all you mentioned does not exist for real, because if they do. Hahahahahaha I laugh at you my dear.
And, no, I will never take the jab. Why? I like my DNA unaltered.
And it took you almost a month to respond?
Pray? Why should I engage in prayers?
As usual your response reeks of ignorance and obstinacy. People like you are so indoctrinated,you are scared to use your brains to question your indoctrination for a second. I wish you well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester City vs Manchester United FA Cup: (2 - 1) On 3rd June 2023 by Caveatemptor(m): 4:15pm On Jun 03, 2023
De Gea. undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Sevilla Vs Roma Europa League (4 - 1)pens On 31st May 2023 by Caveatemptor(m): 10:51pm On May 31, 2023
Penalty kicks.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Sevilla Vs Roma Europa League (4 - 1)pens On 31st May 2023 by Caveatemptor(m): 9:40pm On May 31, 2023
Var over turns the penalty
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Sevilla Vs Roma Europa League (4 - 1)pens On 31st May 2023 by Caveatemptor(m): 9:39pm On May 31, 2023
Penalty to Sevilla
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Sevilla Vs Roma Europa League (4 - 1)pens On 31st May 2023 by Caveatemptor(m): 9:19pm On May 31, 2023
Goal.
Navas.
Sevilla 1 Roma 1

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