₦airaland Forum

betrani: What crime have the Igbos committed in lagos? Have d tried to take lagos away from the ancestral Yorubas?[b] Do they attack people pointlessly and cowardly? Have the formed an army of muderers? [/b]If it isn't their economic arsenal that sustains alaba and the likes, whose?

You assume that 'claiming ancestral land' OR 'pointless and cowardly attacks' are the only reasons that can make a tribe hate another...
You assume wrongly....

Goddamn cant Nigerians THINK?

KAI!

joskid: Here is an OPEN secret: Most so-called Nigerians are more patriotic to their city or state of origins than to this increasingly senseless
entity called Nigeria. And there is NOTHING wrong with that! I grew up all my life in Jos and has always been proud of it. And even within Plateau
we see people also PROUD of the villages they came from. Even if they have a house in Jos, they are always in contact with their ancestral homes. And this
is why there isn't much inter-ethnic problems within the ethnic groups in Plateau. Why? Because everyone respected the other person's "SPACE".

The fact that majority of Nigerians think like this DOES NOT make it right.
I'm tired of having to constantly explain why we have to think as a nation instead of as a group of tribes.

If we split up, I can guarantee that violence will be overwhelming.
Will the Berom want their own republic? or Will they be yoked to a Core north in which they are a minority to be oppressed forever?
We Nigerians fail to think,we prefer letting our emotions rule and thats why we are in the sorry state we are in today.
LOGIC IS A BITTER PILL.

Now, did the BBC ask these people eating human flesh to actually SPEAK Berom? Did the youths actually say they were Berom?

Listen for yourself.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fvldf

naijaking1: The example with Igbos in Lagos is not a good one, because i have never heard of Igbos leaving in Kano or Lagos for the past 200 years claiming "ancestral" rights and privilages as these Fulanis do in Jos.

The above situation didn't apply to Fulanis, because they have a superiority complex. They have ancestral homes in Jos? Soon they will show you their ancestral homes in Markurdi, Enugu, PG, and Calabar!

The ancestral right claiming and violent natures of the fulani are only the REASONS the Berom do not get on with the Fulani.

It does not change the fact that a precedent is being/has been set where an Indigenous Nigerians community can eject non-indigenous Nigerians from the community because they do not get along. Anybody can supply a REASON for enmity.

Spare us the talk about where they will go, this is Nigeria, we're all corrupt, tribalistic, lazy, ineffective, and everybody has a "hometown" where your great--great grand father comes from. We're not like the US yet where birth in a particular state, or one habitation entitles one to "ancestral" privilages.

This is the mentality that needs to be changed. As long as Nigerians think like you, then we as a nation cannot progress.

Finally,

Now, it's IGBO not Ibo, unless you simply meant to mispronounce it as many people do with disrespect.

I stand corrected.
I should know better being half Igbo myself...

joskid: Plateau State as en entity belongs to the indigenous people

Wrong...Plateau state belongs to all Nigerians
This is the pervading mentality in most Nigerians we need to change.
We may not all like each other, but we are stuck with each other, so we have to start thinking as a Nation not a group of tribes.
Only then can we progress.

joskid: With regards to the videos of people eating human flesh...are you really sure about their ethnic identities being Berom? Do you also realize that the place the unfortunate incident happened was in an area where there were many other ethnic groups--both indigenous and settler as well?

It was confirmed by the BBC.
The reporter actually spoke to some of the people while they feasted on their grisly meal.

naijaking1: Stake holder
I'm talkng about the principle here! How did our society grow to be very corrupt, very myopic, and very I'm-happy-it's-not-happening-to-me?
If you're not jaundiced in your view, your question would have gone something like: what can we do sto stop the marauding Fulanis to stop? Instead, the question has been what the Berom victims could do?
Vacate their land by force, disappear, jump into the ocean?

And so evicting them from the lands they've lived in for years is the solution?

or the Beroms should buy Rambo guns and start hunting fulani?

1st have you thought of what a dangerous precedent the government is/would be setting by evicting the Fulanis?
This would mean that any indigenous community could eject resident Nigerians from different tribes simply because THEY DON'T GET ALONG.
Now you are an Ibo man. Many Ibos have significant business intrests in Lagos. Your Logic will allow indigenous Lagosians to kick all ibo out because they steal all the business/speak a different language/are just not yoruba.

2nd Violence begets Violence my friend. Want an example of what inter-tribal warfare can do to a nation? Look at RWANDA...

naijaking1:
As an Igboman, I would rather die fighting, than be taken prisoner by the enemy, and later be put to death with hands tied to my back.

If you were a direct stakeholder,perhaps you might think otherwise...

joskid: Sir, I don't know where you are from but if you had a situation where some people came at night and wiped out your village and they also seem to
be enjoying some type of moral support from their kindred in the Federal Government and those settled in a nearby town...what do you do?

In a worst case scenario we can all learn from Israel.

That is much I can say for now...

In other words, you have no concrete solution.

Joskid I don't condone the fulani's actions and I definitely believe in self-defence BUT
The Berom are not exactly saints either...We've all seen the videos of the Berom killing and the roasting to EAT some unfortunate fulani.

The problem is...
WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE?

At what point can both parties be satisfied that Ti.t was exactly sufficient for Tat and no more?

If both parties continue to tow the line of violence, then the number casualties would be enormous on both sides.
So much so perhaps, that any possible victories would be seen as Pyrrhic in nature.

If you are one of those that subscribe to splitting the country, be reminded that while the security forces in Jos have been rightly lambasted for their gross inefficiencies, It is these same forces that have prevented the fracas from degenerating into an all out war.

What then is the solution?

A tiny country like Britain at one point ruled more than half the world's population partially through military might AND
mainly through DIPLOMACY and NEGOTIATION

If there is to be lasting peace in the region, eventually both parties must sit down to hammer out a deal.

naijaking1: You misunderstand the point, sir. The Gbon Gwon Jos and a few traditional rulers in "north" stood their ground against the direct islamization threats from Sokoto. Like you said, the arrival of the British ushered in other people like the Igbos, Yorubas, and Hausa/Fulani into Jos. The natural unity between the christian Igbos and the native Benue Plateau people has been documented, but it didn't stop fellow christian plateau people like Gowon, Danjuma, Useni, and others from playing out civil war plans scripted by known Fulanis like the Ado Bayero, and mostly against Igbos. The massacre of christians in Jos began with the massacre of Igbos by plateau people, Hausa/Fulanis, and others. Today, that practice by way of Fulanis killing their Berom hosts.
You too didn't even know when you have been used. Gowon probably realized his own after they overthrew him.
Yohanna Madaki, a Gongola christian clearly narrated how, as a child, he witnessed how his family was humilated several times by the Fulani, but even as a high ranking military officer, he was at a loss on how best to push back. The same problem faces the current governor of plateau, Mr Jang also a former military officer. My point is simply that the benue/plateau people have been ignorant or careless of Fulani history in Nigeria, that's the only reason why they would ever identify more with the alien Fulanis more than their natural neighbours in the south, if not for any reason, but as a political counter measure.
"If you allow a fox to take your neighbors chicken, tomorrow, the fox will return for your own chickens"

Mr King,
Are you advising the Berom to fight against the fulani?

Are you really trying to incite more violence?

joskid: I personally know the FULANI man who was inspired to conspire with the Hausas and try to get IBB to carve out Jos North. The man never stayed in Jos before he got an appointment to work as an accountant in the Jos Steel Rolling Mill in the late 80s--where my father also worked.

So what am I telling you? It was NOT ONLY HAUSAS seeking political power at the time. They were also in cohorts with the Fulanis. As far as I am concerned, they go hand in hand!

Joskid what is your proposed solution?

To evict all fulani\hausa from Jos?

Chai...You get time sha...

jackbauersballs: You said:



I mentioned Tiwa Savage

And you're asking:



Are you not a fool?
Is Tiwa Savage not IN don jazzy's crew?

As for wande coal,His debut album: Mushin2Mohits was one of the biggest albums of 2009.
A little research lists some of his awards including:

Next Rated Hip Hop World Awards 2008.

Naija’s fastest Rising Superstar UNIPORT AWARDS 2008

Dynamix Youth awards 2009-Song of the Year.

BEST AFRO HIP HOP VIDEO Nigerian Music Video Awards (NMVA) 2009

African Artiste of the Year - Ghana Music Awards 2010

Artiste of the Year – 2010 Hip Hop World Awards

Best R&b/Pop Single – 2010 Hip Hop World Awards

Album of the year 2010 Hip Hop World Awards

Song of the Year 2010 Hip Hop World Awards

Hip Hop Revelation of the Year 2010 Hip Hop World Awards.

Best rhythm and blues singer of the year 2009 city people

Album of the year 2010 City People

Outstanding Performance in the music industry 2010 City People

Artist of year 2010 City People


Rhino you lack manners
you lack etiquette

BUT worst of all....You lack COMMON SENSE.

airmark: That phoney link is your source. Don jazzy was even numero uno init.

Guy na wa for you o. Are you Don Jazzy's accountant?
You sabi how many deals this guy don do?
Only listening to Dbanj talk about his split with jazzy should give you an idea of the type of pepper these boys dey play with....
Mohits boys dey ball o...

bigx: There is a limit to the extent that what you don't focus on can grow.
Entrepreneurship is a way of life and one person's hell can be someone else's excitement.

My advice is not for established entrepreneurs like yourself sir.
My advice is for people who do not have the necessary skills, but are lured by stories like the one you have posted.

Not everybody can create and run the biggest bulk sms company in Nigeria like yourself.

Hire Robert Igbenedion.

At the risk of derailing this thread,

I believe that far too many people put a lot of emphasis on 'running my own business' and 'sacking my boss(es)'.
It is very very possible to be an employee and an entrepreneur at the same time.
Investing in some buisnesses like real estate or being a silent partner can allow you to be an employee and an entrepreneur at the same time.

my advice to some Nairalanders is to chill and observe, speculate well well before you tell your oga to do one.

Running your own biz can be HELL.

MASSOB might just have an ally afterall now...

This is what is known as Propaganda.
Boko Haram simply trying to hijack the fulani-berom conflict and make itself look bigger.
Boko Haram will want to use this as a bargaining chip during discussions with the NSA.

Its unfortunate the the C in C does not command loyalty within the troops and as such is hamstrung by these vampires.
I would advise him to secretly raise a private army, recruit mecenaries if he has to.

A blinding show of force coupled with making public scapegoats of these so called corrupt leaders is what Nigeria needs.
A surprise rounding up of these evil sponsors for execution at eagle sQuare, and seizing all their assets in Nigeria....


Yes...I know it wont be easy so please dont bash me.

kandiikane: Royal, please tell me how the chick in my profile is light skinned?

HAHAHAHA....STEVIE WONDER....
erm...Good night/morning...

Right...I'm off to cuddle my beautiful oyibo girlfriend

I bid ye farewell...

kandiikane: I remember watching this thing on youtube where they asked a little black girl no more than 5 which one looks pretty(they have cartoon images of people-same face from different races) and the kid picked the whitest of all image as prettiest.

That's where you and I are different. I will never sell out my family for another. However bad they are.

Hypocrisy at its best.....

This nigga meanwhile puts a light skin female up as his profile pic.

Kandikanes profile pic below.
So many hypocritical bitches up in here...

shymmex: Another thing I don't like about black women is that they're quick to compare black men with white men..

If you want to do that, at least make it fair - and compare yourselves to white women..

All those weaves, attachments, lacefront, toning cream etc... And compare your achievements as well..

WHY CANT THEY SEE?

Black women spend so much time and effort trying to look White...

And they blame black men for going for the real thing?

kandiikane: Listen you Goat!

I am proud of my black men. Black men who respect and love their black women. Why would I jump fence when I appreciate the black men God has put for black women?

Are you horn.ny4u in disguise?

dasparrow: The day a black man goes broke, white women will not hesitate to dump the black man in a heart beat, take everything he's got in a divorce settlement and move on to the next black mugu.

Hahaha....

Are Black women different?

dasparrow: Even the man who is holding the number one position in america which is president of USA is married to an intelligent, well educated chocolate toned black woman.

His daddy chased a white though...

Black women especially in the diaspora need to address this global phenomenon and ask themselves.

Why are black men leaving us for the White bitches?

Perhaps in deep reflection, an epiphany awaits?

kandiikane: Now, you are what we call a sell out. Not her!

Stop all these pretentious pari-paring. If any of you had to choose between which race to be, you did pick any apart from black.

I feel sorry for but I thank God, you are dating outside your race, black women don't need men like you who see them as nothing.

Mehn I like white gyals. Yes.
It doesnt mean I cant/wont date a Black girl in future.

But I never said one race is superior or KING.
I simply prefer white.

Now as for your Not-so-selling-out Horndog:

Pleae view her previous posts.
https://www.nairaland.com/985116/white-boyfriends-better-than-black/14#11381002

How can you say Blacks are better....then marry a white man?
Can you not detect the utmost hypocrisy in that?
If you like white joystick, then come out openly...

stop hiding behind black power crap.

Thus was my message to the horndog, as it is to you.

P.S. I never once called her a sellout...only a hypocrite

kandiikane: @pleep, I am making no contributions to this thread regarding what royal and a few others are going on about because the ignorance and hate is still baffling me.

I cannot understand how someone who considers themselves black can say such things about their women.

I don't see in what way my contributions will make any difference to their brainwashed minds. It's just me arguing a lost cause with them.

Still, you had to right to call her a sellout without seeing where all of this started.

Baba you cant be shouting about how Black Man is king, and then go and Marry a WHITEY, then claim you pine for black?

WTF?

kandiikane: Cheddarguy, did you not come on this thread saying white women only?

Then why are you insulting her for marrying a white man? See hypocrisy at a whole new level.

This is why you will not move forward.

Dude you are a fool.

She's shouting about how she loves black men....but what does she do? She MARRIES a white man.

How would you feel if...You were her husband and could read her posts?

Where is that horn.y old goat...

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]You obviously have been half reading posts on this thread. There are several posts on this very thread indicating that White men only wants Black women for sexual pleasures and DO NOT desire BLACK WOMEN AS WIVES.

Don't act brand new.[/quote]Most do.

WTF?

Chai censorship o...

All4u...I meant biat.ch not Naughty Woman...

BIAT.CH

Glad we've cleared that up.

all4naija: I am telling you, I took my time. I don't buy into falling-in-love-at-first-sight idea.

I think I am done with your questions... as you are not willing to believe what I say.

Ok Ok

Lemme rephrase...

NIGGA YOU A BITCH.

Choose you're category below:

You are a self hating bitch who cannot bring himself to accept he's yanshing a white girl.

OR

You are a self hating bitch who cannot bring himself to admit he's yanshing an ugly white girl

OR
You are a self hating bitch who cannot bring himself to accept that rhere is NO girl and its all in his head

I have no doubt that you fall into one of these categories.

And good morning to you too..

pleep: All this "black man is king" crap your saying is meaningless... because your with a white man. Actions speak louder than words.

Anyone who is truly aware knows your just putting on this act so you and pretend your down for you race. You don't want to feel like a sellout. I see sellout black men who date interracially do this all the time.

Your a sellout.. stop pretending your down your your race ppl like you are polluting the movement.

Abeg tell the woman to go and sleep...

cheddarking: In the UK, the black man hunting down the white gyals lol.
Especially the Caribbean mandem.

I predict that by 2070, the UK would be entirely mixed race and asian only...

horny4u: You predict that your race will be wiped out......

Are you a member of white supremacy or just an unthinking tool in their hands.

Google P W Botha

horny4u: I am married to a white man and I donot see his colour.....

Spot the unthinking tool...

PLUS she claims to be married yet she states:

horny4u: do I pine for the black man.....It is obvious I do

Another white man scammed by the wily female coon...