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Goshen360:
Every Christian is ordained ma and it's called "holy and set apart". The church has misled us for too long and we're standing to the truth of the gospel. There's no special ordinations and no special calling in Christ, but each one is "sent" to an assignment in the body, not ordained.

JUBILEE2000:
WRONG!!!! Heaven has no recognition for denominations

StarBoard:
I like the last part.
They make the "church" as it were to be about razzmatazz and pizzazz without puting the focus on Jesus.
Someone on this thread is adversely canvassing for us to copy Abraham's example, rather than that of Jesus who is supposed to be the author and finisher of our faith only in the area of paying tithe. You point out why Abraham cannot be who you model your Christian fsith about and he starts telling you that no man is perfect. So why copy an imperfect example who no longer lives when we have a perfect living master who is above reproach?
Unfortunately these are the shallow minds that these men of themselves breed in abundance so as to continue with their scams. people who cannot be bothered to search through the scriptures and put things together to decipher what God says in his word. So many lazy souls who do not desire to knowvthe depth of God's word but rather depend on what these pastors say.
I could fill you with stories about RCCG and how they do their things. But let God be the judge.

StarBoard:
Sad but true.
I stopped attending RCCG when they started broadcasting people's names on their projector screen in line with tithe records.
They did so to someone I know simply because they wanted to clarify the figure on the cheque in the said envelope for a particular month simply because it differed from what she usually gave.

But when this same lady had earlier undergone a surgery no one asked any questions or showed sympathy. Just collecting tithe from people without taking any concerted effort to know the givers.

enkay4love:
And what gave u the audacity to jump into such nasty conclusion about me?why don't u read his earlier comments on me to realise who's actually spewing the abuses in the first place. From my comment u just reacted to with ur biased reasoning,does'nt it tell u i was reacting to the quoted comment.Its not by force to make a counter-input,if u must,read the lines carefully so u don't end up like a busy body.

enkay4love:
ur a big fooooool for resorting to insults when I hav'nt even started spitting them on u.Ur arguments are as illogical and CHEAP as ur debased mind. I thot I was even correcting a normal misguided human species,little did I know I was engaging a collosal psychiatric case.The next time u quote me,I'll come bundle u to a psychiatric home,Idiot!

Chigold101:
Thanks. But Where and Where in Bible can I find teachings that support what u just wrote? .

naijadeyhia:
The verse most often cited in support of the tithe
is from the Old Testament, found in Malachi
3:8-10 :
8. ""Will a man rob God? Yet you rob me. "But you
ask, `How do we rob you?' "In tithes and
offerings. 9. You are under a curse--the whole
nation of you--because you are robbing me. 10.
Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that
there may be food in my house. Test me in this,"
says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not
throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out
so much blessing that you will not have room
enough for it.
Many preachers shorten Malachi 3:8-10 to just
"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse" , and
almost always with the inference that their
church is the "storehouse". For purposes of this
paper, the Lord had me concentrate on the
passage: "Bring the whole tithe into the
storehouse, that there may be food in my house" .
From that passage, the Lord had me research
several questions:
1) What is the tithe?
2) What was the tithe for?
3) What is the storehouse?
1) What is the tithe? The tithe is 10% of the
increase, established in Leviticus 27:30-33 as an
offering Holy to the Lord. The scripture identifies
the tithe as grain and fruit, herd and flock. The
tithe is food! An example of the tithe can be seen
in a shepherd with a flock of 100 sheep who is
blessed with the birth of 50 lambs in the spring.
Five of the lambs must be offered to the Lord as
a tithe. The tithe was brought to the temple in
Jerusalem in acknowledgement and appreciation of
God’s provision for His people.
2) What was the tithe for? God doesn’t need the
food – God doesn’t eat. God doesn’t desire
sacrifices or offerings ( Psalm 40:6 and Hosea
6:6 ) – He desires mercy. God doesn’t need us to
give Him a 10th of everything – when He already
owns everything ( Psalm 24:1 and Job 41:11b ). The
tithe was used to feed the Levite priests (and
their families) who were required to work in the
temple day and night ministering to God on behalf
of God’s people ( 1 Chronicles 9:33 ). Without the
tithe, the Levite priests would have needed to
raise their own food, thereby taking them away
from ministering before God. Hence the reference
in Malachi 3:10 "…that there may be food in my
house" . Nehemiah 13:10-13 records a time when
the Levite priests were not receiving the tithe
wherein they abandoned their daily temple
responsibilities to work the farms to feed their
families. The reference to ‘robbing God’ in Malachi
3:8 is in fact robbing God of ministry and worship
by failing to take care of God’s priests through
the tithe of food items. Unlike the other tribes of
Israel who were given land as their inheritance,
the Levites were not given any land – only a few
cities in which to live. God was their inheritance (
Numbers 18:20-21 ). Thus, the remaining tribes
were obligated to provide the Levites with food
since they had no land on which to grow their own.
3) What is the storehouse? 2 Chronicles 31 teaches
that the storehouse is the Temple in Jerusalem.
When the tithe was re-instituted under King
Hezekiah, the king gave orders to prepare
storerooms in the temple to hold the tithe.
Apparently the grain "tithe" was heaped up in the
streets, which caused a traffic jam of sorts. King
Hezekiah had the storehouse built to relieve a bad
case of urban congestion in ancient Jerusalem.
Having established the original purpose of the
tithe, the Lord prompted me with several more
questions.
Q: "What happened to the temple (storehouse)?"
A: It was destroyed in 70AD and has not been
rebuilt.
Q: "Why?"
A: The old covenant system of animal sacrifice to
atone for sin is finished. The new covenant is in
the blood of Christ who is the final and
everlasting sin sacrifice.
Q: "Where is the temple now?"
A: 1 Corinthians 6:19 says WE are the temple of
the Holy Spirit. God no longer resides in a stone
temple, but in the hearts of his children through
the Holy Spirit.
Q: "What happened to the Levite priests?"
A: The Levite priesthood is no longer necessary as
the old covenant system of animal sacrifice in the
temple was superceded by the everlasting
covenant of Christ’s blood.
Q: "Who is the priesthood now?"
A: 1 Peter 2:5 and 9 says those who have received
Jesus as Lord and Savior are the priesthood.
Come On Laity, Let’s Do The Twist
Burdening the Body of Christ with the Tithe
requires several twists and reinterpretations of
scripture.
1) The tithe must be imported from the OT law of
Moses to the new covenant of grace by Christ’s
blood.
2) The tithe must be redefined from "flocks,
herds, fruit and grain" to "money" and often
"time".
3) The storehouse must be redefined from the
temple in Jerusalem to the local church building.
4) The Body of Christ must buy into the ordained
clergy as the new priesthood, thereby replacing
the Levite priesthood as the rightful recipient of
the tithe.
5) The Body of Christ must forfeit their own
priesthood and buy into the notion that they are
the "laity".
The tithe has been introduced to the Body of
Christ using 2 tactics of the enemy.
1) Sowing guilt and shame into the Body of Christ
by quoting Malachi 3:8 "Will a man rob God? Yet
you rob me. But you ask, `How do we rob you?' In
tithes and offerings." What devoted Christian
wants to rob God? The net effect of sowing guilt
has been to extort money from the Body of Christ,
thereby robbing the Body of the joy and blessing
of giving as God leads. The practice ignores Paul’s
instructions to the church at Corinth: "Each man
should give what he has decided in his heart to
give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God
loves a cheerful giver ( 2 Corinthians 9:7 )."
2) Blaming the "laity" for the financial troubles in
the Body of Christ , by telling the Body they are
not blessed by God because they do not tithe.
Often Malachi 3:10 is emphasized "Test me in this,
says the LORD Almighty, and see if I will not
throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out
so much blessing that you will not have room
enough for it." In so doing, believers are
challenged to tithe, with the promise that God will
bless them if they do. Such giving is not out of love
for God, but out of selfishness. It implies a reward
for works, which contradicts Ephesians 2:8-9 , and
completely ignores our status as sons of God by
faith in Christ ( Galatians 3:26 ) and joint heirs of
God with Christ ( Romans 8:17 ). The practice also
ignores Christ’s words in Matthew 4:7 "Do not put
the Lord your God to the test" .
The Apostles Did Not Teach Gentiles To Tithe
Acts 15:1-31 records a dispute over circumcision
that arose in the Gentile church at Antioch.
Several false brothers had attempted to require
Gentile (non-Jewish) Christians to be circumcised.
Paul and Barnabas sharply opposed the false
brothers and traveled to Jerusalem to discuss the
issue of circumcision with the other apostles. In
Jerusalem, they reported the miracles and
conversions among the Gentiles. The apostles were
filled with joy over God’s work there, and they
agreed that circumcision was not a requirement
for salvation. Following the meeting, the apostles
and elders in the church at Jerusalem sent Paul
and Barnabas back to Antioch with a letter of
welcome to the Gentile Christians. The essential
text of the letter is found in Acts 15:28-29 . It
reads: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us
not to burden you with anything beyond the
following requirements: You are to abstain from
food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat
of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.
You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell."
The apostles did not want to burden the Gentiles
with Old Testament practices! The proof is in their
letter to the Gentiles and the fact that the
apostles did not impose the tithe on them.
Come, Let Us Reason Together ( Isaiah 1:18 )
Let’s suppose for the sake of argument that Jesus
had commanded us to continue tithing. It would be
appropriate then to use the tithe to feed the
priesthood as originally purposed. Who then is the
priesthood? The apostle Peter writes in 1 Peter 2:5
and 9 that every believer is a priest ! Hebrews 5-8
also teaches us that Jesus is the only priest that
we need . However the institutional church has
borrowed from the Old Testament model of the
Levitical Priesthood, thereby establishing a new
priesthood (ordained clergy) that is separate from
the rest of the Body of Christ. The division
between the clergy, and the so-called "laity" is
not Biblical (Is this the doctrine of the Nicolaitan’s
that Jesus says He hates in Revelation 2:6 ) ?In
fact, Jesus did not establish the ordained clergy –
He chose fishermen and tax collectors to preach
His gospel. Neither did He establish division in His
church, He desires unity ( John 17:20-23 ). The
apostles did not set up an ordained clergy – they
chose men full of the Holy Spirit and wisdom to
serve the Body ( Acts 6:3 , 1 Timothy 3 ). This man-
made division between "clergy" and "laity" has
effectively served to divert the offerings of the
Body of Christ away from the people it is intended
to bless and the offerings are most often used in
ways contrary to the will of God. The net result
has been starvation and financial bondage for
many believers, and the real priesthood – the
whole Body of Christ – has not been prepared to
carry out Christ’s command to preach the gospel to
all nations!
Jesus is the Word of God in the flesh ( John 1:14 ).
He knew that Malachi 3:10 says "bring the whole
tithe into the storehouse" when He instructed the
rich man to sell everything and give the proceeds
to the poor ( Matthew 19:21 ). I imagine the
Scribes and Pharisees about choked on what Jesus
said as they were in the habit of devouring widow’s
houses for profit ( Luke 20:47 ) and the rich man’s
possessions would have been a real feast for them.
In Matthew 25:31-46 , Jesus reiterated His desire
to help the poor in the parable of separating the
sheep from goats, wherein at judgement Jesus will
reward those who feed the hungry and clothe the
poor. Since Jesus judges us for our care of the poor
and hungry, and since He commands us to preach
the gospel throughout the world, why is most of our
giving used for church buildings and salaries with
only a small percentage devoted to the poor,
missions and evangelism?
Is the church making goats out of us by not
feeding the hungry and clothing the poor with our
offerings?
Let’s not wait until the Judgement of Christ to
find out!

BE811APP:
The one that happened to me recently was my friends acct on facebook was hacked and d guy asked I should send 1500 or 3k recharge card.. I had started sourcing for 1500 card when it dawned on me that its fraud..

My question now is...
Are scammers now so broke that its 400-1500 crdt they are looking for

AlienSPY:
Na so one dark moderately handsome man and his equally dark wife come do child dedication for church. The twin were very pronounced on the fair complexion side, chubby and totally different from both parent.

While the man was grinning from ear to ear supposedly dumbfounded with the reactions of his fellow worshippers, I sat at a corner and allow my thoughts run wild.

andromida:
And Coogar i am not holding brief for the paternity fraudster i am just looking at it from a different perspective. None of them should cast stones is all i am saying if a man marries a retired prostitute and retains the right to sleep with any woman that catches his fancy even while married he should be prepared for anything from his retired prostitute wife its a choice he made he should live with it. I am sure even femi is not suprised.

Dcmg:
My man,the issue is not about the DNA,but the deceit.
I can adopt as many kids as i want and still show dem real love,i could pick a kid from the street and treat him like my blood.
But if my wife decives me in believing her kids are mine,there are two things involved..,it's either i return the kids to their mother to free the pains from my mind or I retain the kids and kill the mother.
So,doing the latter is far worse.I would send them back to their mother to free my mind.
Do you know that as a man,this kind of news can lead to heart attack and possibly death?

zeongeon:
Aruh!!! Tufiakwa!!!

No body should blame femi kuti oohh...he did nothing wrong...its good we spill out evil regardless of what is at stake...Femi did nothing "wrong" in sleeping around after all is he the only man doing it..BUT its so bad and unfair to willingly bring a child of another man for ur supposed husband to father...how far can one go in deception infact that is wickedness in another level.

I wonder why some women go around messing up and polluting lineages and generations as a result of bastard children..U enter into some homes and u discover some children behave totally differently or abnormally from there bro's or sis may b the child steals, fights a lot, rebellious or promiscuous and u see the poor man wondering and saying to himself "but no one in my family behaves like this, why is this child or children totally different I mean I don't steal and I wasn't this rebellious" unknown to the poor man his wife gave her hot pot to a man with questionable character and its manifesting in the kids.

Men in the house becareful, cautious and prayerful for some women are moving around like roaring lions looking for destinies to devour and destroy.

natureblack:
That's confusion




Now give me a reason why Femi shouldn't blow-up this woman's head with an assault-rifle.

SlyCharlie:
France vs Sweden on startimes sports 2
Argentina vs Portugal on Varzesh.
Enjoy FTA!

sunene1:
It's 8.30pm,time check @livescore.com

sunene1:
Argentina vs croatia 2morow on iribtv3 live @8.30pm

DARELESTIN:
Any fta to show Olympic marsiel Vs Psg tonight?

alinafesaini:
Folks, which fta apart from RDV and IRib, is showing Liverpool vs Chelsea game?? Help a friend.

drandonzero:
About watching bayern vs dortmund but my irib is cracking heavily under usual signals, what could be the problem?

maidaboi:
any amos 5 station that wil air today epl