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These are some more facts.

1. Tinubu said he attended Richard Daley College to obtain his prerequisite courses prior to transferring to CSU to obtain his BA.

2. Richard Daley College has stated unequivocally that the Bola Tinubu that graduated from their school was a female. This is also buttressed by the evidence in the transcript of that Tinubu they supplied.

3. You would agree with me that every school likes to publish prominent alumni of their institution, especially if the alumni is the CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE MOST POPULOUS BLACK COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

4.Please google Richard Daley College prominent alumni and see if Bola Tinubu's name is there.

Jostoman:
Since you have seen all the document before, Nigerians also deserve to see all the document and confirm it.

If nothing injurious would be found in his records that could affect the Supreme Court decision why is he holding out on releasing the records now?

Please permit me to give a logical explanation to this entire Tinubu debacle. ( This is a copy and paste from an explanation i gave to numbered questions from an earlier forum. I thought it would be apt to expose this write up for everyone to understand the details of this case).

1. CSU already said under oath that a name bearing BOLA A TiNUBU graduated from their school. This is right. However, if you read the details of Atiku's lawyers arguments, there is ambiguity about the identity of the person who graduated from that school and the person claiming that identity. Richard Daley College has categorically said that the person who graduated from their college was a female, as reflected in the transcript they notarized. That is not in contention. ( To put it in context, this is a white school, better organized and cannot be easily manulpulated due to better funding, especially in the 1970's during the civil rights era). This is the same transcript a Bola Tinubu used to gain admission into the course he/she studied. By law, Chicago State University has not committed any perjury as there is a name of such semblance in their records that graduated from that school.

2. Atiku requested for a template of certificates given in 1979. This is to compare that template to the document Tinubu submitted to INEC. Also, don't you find it curious that CSU did not keep any identifying information during the application process to the school but a junior college, Richard Daley College, where he/ she got his/ her prerequisite courses kept all their identifying information during the application process.

3. For context, this incident happened in the 1970's, during the Civil Rights era in USA. Many
HBCU's, for which CSU is one of them, were both very poorly funded and poorly organized. Many Nigerians and some other wealthy africans took advantage of that system to get the needed qualifications for their careers. It is very different now. CSU is currently doing damage control for their school reputation.

4. CSU is very measured and deliberate in their actions. They would never have given Tinubu a copy of that certificate, especially when there is uncertainty about the true identity of the owner. If they did, it would immediately lead to the realm of aiding and abetting of a crime. That could ultimately open a litany of potential troubles for the University. This forced Tinubu to forge the certificate he submitted to INEC, knowing that any verification attempt would be confirmed by CSU that a Bola Tinubu truly graduated from that school. This is called plausible denialbility.

I hope this logically answers all your questions

Please permit me to give a logical explanation to this entire Tinubu debacle. ( This is a copy and paste from an explanation i gave to numbered questions from an earlier forum. I thought it would be apt to expose this write up for everyone to understand the details of this case).

1. CSU already said under oath that a name bearing BOLA A TiNUBU graduated from their school. This is right. However, if you read the details of Atiku's lawyers arguments, there is ambiguity about the identity of the person who graduated from that school and the person claiming that identity. Richard Daley College has categorically said that the person who graduated from their college was a female, as reflected in the transcript they notarized. That is not in contention. ( To put it in context, this is a white school, better organized and cannot be easily manulpulated due to better funding, especially in the 1970's during the civil rights era). This is the same transcript a Bola Tinubu used to gain admission into the course he/she studied. By law, Chicago State University has not committed any perjury as there is a name of such semblance in their records that graduated from that school.

2. Atiku requested for a template of certificates given in 1979. This is to compare that template to the document Tinubu submitted to INEC. Also, don't you find it curious that CSU did not keep any identifying information during the application process to the school but a junior college, Richard Daley College, where he/ she got his/ her prerequisite courses kept all their identifying information during the application process.

3. For context, this incident happened in the 1970's, during the Civil Rights era in USA. Many
HBCU's, for which CSU is one of them, were both very poorly funded and poorly organized. Many Nigerians and some other wealthy africans took advantage of that system to get the needed qualifications for their careers. It is very different now. CSU is currently doing damage control for their school reputation.

4. CSU is very measured and deliberate in their actions. They would never have given Tinubu a copy of that certificate, especially when there is uncertainty about the true identity of the owner. If they did, it would immediately lead to the realm of aiding and abetting of a crime. That could ultimately open a litany of potential troubles for the University. This forced Tinubu to forge the certificate he submitted to INEC, knowing that any verification attempt would be confirmed by CSU that a Bola Tinubu truly graduated from that school. This is called plausible denialbility.

I hope this logically answers all your questions.
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Posh2018:
We like to hope on clear hopelessness.

Questions.

1. CSU already said he graduated from their school. U think they were not aware of the implications? They knew he was the president and a public figure.

2. They already said they don't keep copies. So it is a new copy to be printed. How do u validate that against what he submitted?

3. Even if something is amiss, do you think CSU will like to indict themselves and soil their reputation? Eg that Tinubu joined the school as a woman and graduated as a man? That they don't do due diligence on their students?
Do we really think CSU will like to soil their reputation?

4. And why will BAT submit a copy of his certificate different from what the school has? When as an old fox, he knows it will be subjected to litigation.


I think he was just trying to waste Atiku time and keep some suspense or to also make sure the school brings out what is right and in alignment.

Overall, whatever comes from this exercise cannot be submitted as an evidence. So it is a share waste of time. And as a nation, we just washing our dirty linen in a foreign land.
We have also shown our desperation when we can't be ok with the school,s attestation.

Are we also not expecting Tinubu to sue the school if they turn up with anything that contradict their initial confirmation of him as a bona-fidegraduate?

While we are running up and down in US, SC would affirmed his presidency since they are time bound.

Forlorn and useless trip. I pity Atiku and Obi followers

Please permit me to answer some of your questions via an intelligent surmise, albeit logical explanation.

1. CSU already said under oath that a name bearing BOLA A TiNUBU graduated from their school. This is right. However, if you read the details of Atiku's lawyers arguments, there is ambiguity about the identity of the person who graduated from that school and the person claiming that identity. Richard Daley College has categorically said that the person who graduated from their college was a female, as reflected in the transcript they notarized. That is not in contention. ( To put it in context, this is a white school, better organized and cannot be easily manulpulated due to better funding, especially in the 1970's during the civil rights era). This is the same transcript a Bola Tinubu used to gain admission into the course he/she studied. By law, Chicago State University has not committed any perjury as there is a name of such semblance in their records that graduated from that school.

2. Atiku requested for a template of certificates given in 1979. This is to compare that template to the document Tinubu submitted to INEC. Also, don't you find it curious that CSU did not keep any identifying information during the application process to the school but a junior college, Richard Daley College, where he/ she got his/ her prerequisite courses kept all their identifying information during the application process.

3. For context, this incident happened in the 1970's, during the Civil Rights era in USA. Many
HBCU's, for which CSU is one of them, were both very poorly funded and poorly organized. Many Nigerians and some other wealthy africans took advantage of that system to get the needed qualifications for their careers. It is very different now. CSU is currently doing damage control for their school reputation.

4. CSU is very measured and deliberate in their actions. They would never have given Tinubu a copy of that certificate, especially when there is uncertainty about the true identity of the owner. If they did, it would immediately lead to the realm of aiding and abetting of a crime. That could ultimately open a litany of potential troubles for the University. This forced Tinubu to forge the certificate he submitted to INEC, knowing that any verification attempt would be confirmed by CSU that a Bola Tinubu truly graduated from that school. This is called plausible denialbility.

I hope this logically answers all your questions.

Timmi:
It is obvious that you Racoon don't know the meaning of criminal prosecution. The case in the US is not criminal but rather civil and it's about protecting one's personal record which is guaranteed in the US and that's why the university refused to produce Tinubu's academic record.
Read to understand and comprehend and then use your common sense instead of been an Obizombie

Yes, a civil case that ultimately has the potential to become a criminal one, when the case of identity theft is unfolded.

Sorry sir, but common sense says it now belongs to your father. Expecially if there is no will. Unfortunately, you do not have any grounds to fight for your moms property. By default, your father in any jurisdiction is your mother's next of keen, except if they divorced before her death.

charlesemeka85:
it doesn’t mk sense engaging a lowlife like you in a banter this morning cus I sense you are frustrated

Not frustrated bro. Just paying you back in your own coin. Next time never start a fight you can't finish. Look through our earlier discussions to refreshen your memory......

charlesemeka85:
it doesn’t mk sense engaging a lowlife like you in a banter this morning cus I sense you are frustrated

Here you go. Keep at it boy. Practice make perfect!!!

charlesemeka85:
can you imagine?

Lol

charlesemeka85:
kuku tell us you haven’t seen amoo play before and would love to use this opportunity to access him because no right thinking coach will throw in a rookies in a hot derby where qualification for the World Cup is at stake

Rookies such as amoo can only be introduced to the game if the team is winning comfortably

It’s too damn risky

Charlsemeka has finally written in English. Albeit in a broken form. He even completed more than 3 good sentences!!! Boy I am impressed. His diction is improving.

With regards to the match yesterday and the upcoming match on Tuesday, these are my views;

1. Ihenacho should have been replaced by onyeka in maybe the 60th minute, with Aribo moving upfront. Aribo, was played out of position.

2. The connection between midfield and attack was non-existent. I believe Amo can be used as a joker. Just release him when everyone is tired to cause havoc on the opponent.

3. The comparison between Okoye and Uzoho is finally settled. In as much as you cannot judge from a single game, Uzoho brings more positional awareness, composure and command of his line than Okoye.

4. We should learn to high press the Ghanaians. They make more mistakes when they are high pressed. On three occasions in which it occurred, they made mistakes. It even almost lead to a penalty.

5. We are in trouble, if we survive this world cup qualification match. Eguavon needs to update his coaching arsenal if we are to go far in the world cup. He still lives in the 90s, using the same Westerhoff principles. This is very predictable and can be easily stifled in the world cup.

Good result with Ghana. However, watch out for those away goals in Abuja. Away goals can hurt alot....

slimthugchimee2:
, stop the plane at the end of the runway and tell them to trek to the terminal there's no fuel to bring them there

Lol

Ghana playing mind games. These guys are lucky I am not the head of the aviation department or NFF. I would have given them a parachute or at most a ladder to come down that plane on their arrival at Abuja.

charlesemeka85:
u need serious mending

Retard!

For a guy who cannot eloquently express himself, without resorting to brawn, this is a huge complement. Charlesemeka85, you could not even state your dissuations to my concern, without resorting to insults to my person. Now that the chips are down, I challenge you to eloquently present your case for Maduka Okoye. Oh, I forgot, there is no more crowd to follow your mob mentality! Eloquently state your point please, in more than two sentences. Prove me wrong!

Okoye out! Who says there is no God!

safarigirl:
And after they scored and started shooting from outside the box, how many entered?

Did they score everything they shot from outside the box consequently?

We lost because we did not equalize.

We did not lose just because they scored us one goal.

If you do not score a goal you will lose a game and it will be a well deserved loss.

When you finish your own ranting, it is still Okoye you will see at that post, then you will realise how useless your ranting really is.

Make una better accept what you cannot change, because all your complaints will not amount to anything. Okoye will start the game, bother yourself with who will be closest to the Ghanaian net.

Safari girl, we have had aguements in the past in this forum. I intentionally avoid replying your statements because it is usually plagued with sentiments and insults to the person. However, I would reply this your argument with just FACTS. As I anticipate your usual response.

1. It is a fallacious assertion to say that you would only win a game if you scored more goals than your opponent. Some teams only need to score once and the lock the shop (as seen in the Tunisia game). Soccer, as you would agree with me, has become more tactical. The premiership winning Leceister City tactics come to fore.

2. Again, as you would agree with me, soccer is a TEAM SPORT. You are only as strong as your weakest link. At present, the glaring weakness in the SuperEagles TEAM is our goal keeper, Maduka Okoye. Ghana is very close to Nigeria, both geographically and culturally. There is a very high chance their coaching crew know about this deficit and would exploit it to the fullest during our next match.

3. The advantage we have with the current Super Eagles Manager, Augustin Eguavon, is that he listens more to the sentiments of the Nigerian populace, more than any foreign manager would. I believe if a concerted effort is made by the general public both in discussion forums and in print media highlighting this deficiency, he would take note and make the needed adjustments. Hence, rendering your final premise of immutability of Okoye as the starting goal keeper, also fallacious.

I look forward to your usual response......

do4luv14:
had we faced Cameroon with Okoye yet

give me date, time and Venue

The video is attached. What else do you want.

Joebie:
So long shot is now Okoye’s weakness. Someone should tell me any goals he has conceded like that besides that of Tunisia.

Here you go chief! Nigeria vs Cameroom


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAbkSM9DhCQ

charlesemeka85:
u need serious mending

Retard!

I give up.....can you at least back up your grievance with concrete examples to counteract my concern.....

charlesemeka85:
you hv to first coach your village team before aspiring to coach Ghana

Fool!

Again, like a petulant child, attacking the person and not the comment.... very mature of you...

On a serious note, I feel like you guys are not taking this Okoye guy's problem as seriously as it merits. This Okoye guy has a problem with goalkeeper ball positioning . Please rewatch the above highlight attached. You would notice that even in the first goal attempt by the Tunisians, he was poorly positioned. Were it not for the defender that cleared the ball, the Tunisians could have scored in the first half. All his goals conceded while on Super Eagles jersay are very "soft" goals. If our defenders ever have a bad day, we are doomed (the Sierra Leonian game comes to mind). PLEASE REMIND ME OF ANY WORLD CLASS SAVE OKOYE HAS EVER MADE.

In general, I know goalkeepers get better with age. Okoye is only 23 years old. He would get better with time and there is a potential. However, the Super Eagles is not were you learn your craft. It should be were you display it.

do4luv14:
what are you even saying, is it not the failure of our Dm, and defenders that fails to cover that guy,

still Okoye follow the ball, would had save it too, only for the ball to boun6in his front, he even got a hand to try divert it, but his touch was not strong enough, yet you all wanna crucify him

Chief, here is a link to the match to refresh your memory. Yes, there was a small bounce of the ball, but it did not deviate the trajectory of the ball movement. Okoye's amateurish initial movement in the wrong direction lead to us conceding that goal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2R5gd4BcZI

I swear if I were the Ghanian coach my instruction to ALL my players would be simple, "shoot at sight, they don't have a goal keeper."

Just musing, you all know that Thomas Partey enjoys shooting the ball from the mid field, our defensive midfielder, Ndidi, is out due to injury and we do not have a goal keeper, as far as I am concerned (Okoye is out of the question), please can someone help me pacify my anxiety. I feel like we may be facing another Tunisia, one error prone mistake by Okoye and the Ghanians close shop.

Continuing on my rant until this issue is taken seriously. I sincerely believe we should not continue to trivialize the issue of our non-existent goalkeeper in the super eagles. Seriously, why couldn't the NFF compensate the best seasonal goalkeeper in the NPFL with an invitation to the Super Eagles Camp. This would at least ensure the best goal keeper is invited to the super eagles while creating competition in the national team camp. If I remember correctly Enyeama ( arguably the best goal keeper Nigeria has ever produced) and any other goalkeeper of repute that has ever graced our senior national team goal line all came directly from the local league ( Aloy Agu, Peter Rufai, Ike Shorunmu, Joseph Dosu etc all come to mind). As much as i can't believe i am saying this, my people the answer to this goalkeeper problem may be in the local leagues. However, one thing this is definitely known, and with all certainty, is that the answer is not Maduka Okoye.

I would keep shouting this to the heavens. WE DESPERATELY NEED A NEW GOAL KEEPER!!!! OKOYE, IS NOT AND WOULD NEVER BE THAT PERSON!!!!

On a serious note, I watched with pure admiration the Egyptian goalkeeper yesterday, while fantasizing a Nigerian goalkeeper with such deft. If we continue with this Okoye guy, we have a high chance of loosing to Ghana. It only requires one mistake!

Even more terrifying, imagine Okoye in the goal post with a team like Belgium as our opponent at the world cup!!! WAKE ME UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE!!!!!

With regards to yesterday's match. Please refer to my earlier post in September expressing my concerns with this Okoye guy. I copied the write up for easier reference..... I rest my case.....


Nice write up! However, I still have a reservation. Unfortunately I am not completely sold with this Okoye guy as our goalkeeper. His conceded goals appear really soft ( Please rewatch the highlights of his conceded goals to appreciate my concern). I literally shake in fear whenever our opponents are close to our goal post in any match. Any bad day by our defense and you see exactly what I mean ( the Sierra leonian game comes to mind).

There is a saying that goes thus "if it is not broken, don't fix it." Why would Rohr replace Uzoho who was doing a very good job and improving with every match with this Okoye guy ( Please rewatch the Ukraine and Brazil friendly game to see what I mean).

Going back to your article, no mater how good a team is, you cannot win any laurel with an inept goalkeeper guarding your goalpost.

Chuky7:
Seed capital that's the money you used to start your business

Mine was 1 million seed capital for investment and now.

4 years, the business now worth more than 20 million.

Sir, with all due respect, the only investment that gives that kind of return (2000Percent!!!!! In 4 years) Is either crypto or illegal drugs. At the risk of sounding too presumptuous, I don't think you are involved in any of these.

12large1:
Anyone that watched iheanacho last season performance considering the limited playing time and use his mouth, to say that he wasn't WORLD CLASS last season, is a [b]Lying Bastard and deserves to be flogged f[/b]or lying

Classless!!!

MetalJigsaw:
Opinion: Three Reasons Why Super Eagles Could Emerge As AFCON 2021 Champions
kabiyesi


As you set your foot on the majestic Cairo international Airport at El Nozha, Governorate, you're welcome by stern looking custom officers who ensure that you get a clear passage into the country without much ado.



Walking through the arrival Hall, pictures of Hassan brothers, Aboutreka and other Egyptian's football heroes with AFCON medals hanging on their necks adorned the walls.

But from Heliopolis to Tahir Square, football is being worshiped in Cairo, and every single Pharaoh fan believe Nigeria Super Eagles is Egypt's major threat in the African Cup of Nations.

Both countries will again rekindle their rivalry in Group D opener when AFCON 2021 get underway in Cameroon next January, and all eyes will be on Nigeria and Egypt to make an easy passage to the next round considering the strength and pedigree of Sudan and Guinea-Bissau.



While host Cameroon will be looking forward to avenging their second round defeat to Nigeria at the last edition in Egypt, other teams like Ghana, Côte d'Ivoire, Algeria, and Senegal are expected to parade a crack side that is capable of sweeping their way to the podium.

While the big boys are always tipped to win the competition, below are three major reasons why Nigeria could emerge 2021 AFCON champions.



1. Rohr Now Understand The Terrain Better.



Super Eagles gaffer seems to understand African football terrain better after three appearances at the AFCON with Burkina Faso, Gabon, and Nigeria.



He now understands all that he needs to put together to win Africa most prestigious competition: a near perfect goalkeeper, water tight defense, a well knitted midfield that is powered by goal hungry strikers that are armed to the teeth, and of course, a strong bench.



Rohr now understands how to be wary of injuries in the group stage and above all, keep his best for the last. These and many other factors would be a defining factor in his quest to win his first AFCON diadem.

2. Nigeria Is Blessed With The Right Talents.

Barring any injuries, Nigeria seems to parade the most talented and youngest squad at the moment with some its players playing their trade is some big European clubs. Besides, the experience gained in Egypt will be useful for most of the players that will fly the green and white flag in Cameroon.



3 Everything Is Under Control

Yet qualifications aside, Rohr seems to have everything under control, and he is strictly sticking to his program. He is set to visit Super Eagles hotel and training pitch, while effort is in top gear to pick a training camp in Europe. These are good steps in the right direction.

Nice write up! However, I still have a reservation. Unfortunately I am not completely sold with this Okoye guy as our goalkeeper. His conceded goals appear really soft ( Please rewatch the highlights of his conceded goals to appreciate my concern). I literally shake in fear whenever our opponents are close to our goal post in any match. Any bad day by our defense and you see exactly what I mean ( the Sierra leonian game comes to mind).

There is a saying that goes thus "if it is not broken, don't fix it." Why would Rohr replace Uzoho who was doing a very good job and improving with every match with this Okoye guy ( Please rewatch the Ukraine and Brazil friendly game to see what I mean).

In conclusion, going back to your article, no mater how good a team is, you cannot win any laurel with an inept goalkeeper guarding your goalpost.