₦airaland Forum

youngsahito:
how did they use their members to destroy private refinery? You guyz will just talk without understanding anything. Is it Pengasan that stopped the balablu from fixing the refineries after two years of removing subsidy. We are all hypocrite in Nigeria as long as we are not affected by that matter.

Maybe its not Pengasan that stopped Tinubu from fixing refineries " Directly". ...Buh you see all of them pengasan, nupeng, marketers they are part of the rot/corrupt system diverting our fuel to neighbouring countries and creating artificial scarcity

They are All in it, even the so called Union are doing Nigerians any favor, what they are after is their pocket

Orlandoo:
Only in Nigeria under Tinubu because here, anything goes and workers don't have any right.

Do you realize Dangote is a private Firm and they dont owe Nigerians any explanation for decisive taken on there staff,

i commend Dangote so far, he is being showing Accountability even People we elect wont show us

helinues:
Peter Obi the Casablaster. He had the capacity to do all what he has been suggesting for Nigeria to grow but he forgot to implement majority of those solutions when he was the governor of Anambra state

Are you saying Peter obi lived opulence back when he was Governor or you are just desperate to move the goalpost

saintopus:
This is a wonderful statistics. Even Indian wives are cheating? Then we're are finished because I thought that Indians were the most holy people and they never divorce upon getting married

Finished bawo ...🤣🤣🤣🤣 now we know why dem ishilove, folake4u gender no dey use zeeworld play

Naija housewives ... Na yī

it is not Malaria that almost to you out, Naa poverty

Rich people dont joke with check up and treatment, you can see Tinubu running Abroad at slighiest temperature

brain54:
Okay. Maybe it's me that didn't read the post fully...

Or misunderstood it Sha.

Just show me where it is on the post that they signed any agreement or terms before employment to not join any union or association!

Because it seems my eye is paining me!

have you not worked in a Formal organisation before, You dont sign any agreement

Upon letter of employment you will know All you need to know about the companies, your package and others ... if you resume that Acceptances

Let even imagine you didnt know prior to employment, you can always Resign at anytime if it's against your person..

brain54:
In those 6 houses you stayed...


You didn't need to "drag" anything with the landlord. Because some of the rights are basic, fundamental and enshrined in the Constitution.

Now if you do not know about those rights and the landlord takes advantage of you that's no one's problem.

The telling you to be home by 10pm are specific terms to your tenancy contract, which is in essence telling you to sign away your basic fundamental right to free movement. Normally, if you don't accept to the terms of his saying you should be home by 10pm at the initial agreement period then he has no right whatever as your landlord to control your movement.


Because the Constitution guarantees your fundamental right to freedom.

Is it now clear?

lolzz! you ended up slipping into what i am saying ... Nobody is forcing anybody here

if i didnt accept the landlord terms n condition how i for move in ... what are you saying
Same thing with Dangote he give you condition before employment ... take it or leave it weytin court wan do

If you give me terms n condition and i feel it infringe my rights ... its my choice to take it or leave it ... court can't force employer to rewrite terms n conditions just to favour you

Basic123:
Wetin concern FG with this?

Is employment no longer FG responsibility abi i should have known Tinubu govt is different .. no time

Hightablevoice2:
That's the point.. imagine you are in dangote shoe too.. people just wanting to exploit you all in the name of union.. they just seem to be neglecting a very paramount aspect of economic growth.. and to extend it further, capitalism.. if it is for prospective purpose that can be understood. But Dangote pays, and they look after their employees very well in terms of their packages.. it make no sense trying to unionize when they organization itself on it's own takes very good care of it's people.. majority of responsible corporate heads will act the same way if the shoe falls on their laps..

You know i am amazed at likes of gloriousgbola n co. citing fire where their is no smoke

let judge Dangote base on existing businesses.. how are the workers treated, are worker in dangote cement texting SOS to labour union every month end

The whole essence of unionism is to mitigate unjust treatment, so where there is none of what use is union ... union go just dey chop free dues

on every truck i heard Nupeng collect 100k or is it 1m ... that is why they are fighting Dangote

brain54:
Ofcourse, I acknowledged that much bolded...

Workers have certain rights just as well as employers do.

It's also like a tenant and landlord contract. Both has rights. Sometimes the tenant or worker is even more protected under such laws/conditions and are not "subservient "

The truth is most people are either ignorant, unwilling to go through the legal process, or don't just have trust in the judiciary to pursue such rights. That's why employers take advantage of them.

But those rights are there and inalienable and fundamental.

If a staff of uni illorin chooses to be a member of a legal association like ASSU then there is absolutely nothing unilorin can do about it bro. It's their right and the school can't take it away from them!

Good, its even good you brought the landlord and tenant scenerio

All my life i have rented and lived in over 6 houses .... never did i dictate the term n condition to the landlord

The landlord state there terms n conditions, there one that said i cant stay outside more than 10pm ... me wey be nightcrawler i bounced i didnt drag him to court instead i find a house that aligns with my choice


Employee is subservient to organisation Rules that applies to "All" ... where court have strength to protect workers is cases of " Victimization" .. thats it

i never sleep with folake4u i don know somethings if i cum sleep beside her nko i go be constitution

princeade86:
so why did they joined ASUU back? U think if there is no union in this country to challenge these people, u will enjoy ur work? Nigeria rich and government are whicked when it comes to employees. They can allow u to work under dhuress and get peanut.

Sorry bro i am not naive, Unilorin is back to ASUU cos ASUU lifted the suspension on unilorin they went to the VC in 2020 and that one interest align with ASUU thats is all to it ... Not becos unilorin is suffering anything

As a matter of Fact the selling point of Unilorin that made them Outstanding was the uninterrupted calendar year .. they advertised " We are not under ASUU" that was why my Father sent me there

Stop telling me about Union in the textbook, Nigeria unionism is scrap, these people just extort n use people to cash out on both side

what enjoyment, you funny ! if we interview 10 workers today how many can corroborate your claim Nigeria workers are enjoying

70k minimum wage thats the best union could fetch ... that's the enjoyment rite,

Across chinese, lebanese factories (NG) workers are poorly managed union no see that One

brain54:
Well they are also labor laws...

And these workers also have an employment contract.

It's not simple a matter of "exiting" if not satisfied. It's a matter of legal rights.


The worker has certain rights due him just as the employer has rights.

That's why they is the judiciary to settle such issues.

To me personally, workers joining a legal association that isn't proscribed by law is their legal rights and as long as the association isn't a threat to company's business they have a right to belong.

I think it's oppressive and discrimination if dangote lays them off for wanting to exercise their rights.

Anyway that's why we have courts to interpret and give judgment in cases of dispute like this!

You keep saying worker have this Workers have that ... Right is not only attributable to workers

I believe workers rights are subservent to Employers term and Conditions, you cant approach university of ilorin and start claiming right to join ASUU it doesnt work that way
Every player has Right, therefore Organisation have right to be under union or Not, the decision promulgates options workers have

You cant talk about right before " OPTIONS " .. No one is dusputing you have right But Nigerians fail to know where your Right stops where some else Right starts
where your freedom/right infringes others right or terms n conditions .. it becomes invalid


Maybe if naa foreign union i for dey support unionism But Naija union naa see finish ... Atenu, gluttons

GloriousGbola:
The union exists to protect workers from management excesses and to ensure workers have a fair wage and to prevent victimisation

I will give a very simple example.

I worked in a Nigerian run oil company

They were able to cancel union in some parts of the company

One year management made a bad financial decision

The group ceo met with us and promised no one would be sacked

The next thing the non unionised guys were laid off with one month severance pay

I was exited four years later. I was paid severance pay equivalent to my years of service

An even funnier story is that the ceo of my unit who had always bragged about how he had always been a contract staff and had done so well without a union was exited with a miniuscle exit package of 10m. The person after him the coo who had been a full staff and had been in union before took an exit package of over 80m.

That is just one aspect. When you are unionised you can only be immediately sacked if you are in gross misconduct or theft.

Don't let any of these paid shills or naive children deceive you

There is strength in numbers

You can break a single stick but it is much harder to break a bundle of sticks

Your instance is within the ideal hemisphere, all private

You see the moment it involves, FG, labour and outsides forces Forget it ... dem go carry una cash out

Asides FG i dont think there is any private employer in Nig. that employ more than Dangote, you want to tell us to be weary of a Dangote that has being in existence for over 20yrs citing " imaginations"

In the last 20yrs how many scandal does dangote have dealing with his workers, dangote cement factory is not under union ... my lil bro worked there what did he miss, please let's stop over glamorizing this corrupt union

brain54:
What if those company rules...

Violate constitutional fundamental rights like freedom of association for example?

The court can compel dangote to take them back if there has been a breach on their rights.

Internal rules or not!

No company rules violate your Fundamental right in real sense ... You have exclusive right to resign or dont apply there

if i say all my workers must wear hijab,.... your main fundamental right is " choice" either work with me or say No and exit ... no be everything be fight

In this case court cant do much , because the affected employees are not existing Nupeng members, these are freshers even Nupeng cant protect them

where court have power to decide is, If Dangote employees were already registered to Nupeng and dangote acts against them cos of unionism action

ncoolsome:
Does his rules supercede that of the federal government or Labour union...

His term and conditions over his direct employee supersede govt or union

He who pays the pyper dictates the tunes, i am sure the author know govt n union existed

Hightablevoice2:
Unionism even though has its benefits but it's more glaring that it's like a club whose main intentions has always been a way to wield unnecessary power over an organization that treats you right to start with. It is a shallow move. And any reasonable organic corporate body warns against it... But either way, they will either get a deal with this or perish. Unionism is a big no no in a growing economy... And I think this will even be a good incentive for employers to have a good clause before recruitment in their contract or company policy.. Joining union.. nonsense..like they are not already gainfully employed already.. Dem belle full.. Dem deh find beku beku up and down

Bro Unionism in real $ense is very good But Naija factor is what put Unionism in bad light here ... atenu ! this unions are just after money, to the point they even extort members

they lack objectivity and resolute

gbegemaster:
His company does not exists in space. He has no right to stop workers from joining the Union according to the Law.

That is why he has accused them of sabotage which in itself is a mistake and can be challenged in the industrial court.

Life is not hard we Human just make it hard, A Employer gave his term n condition if you as an employee dont like it exit or Avoid the company

Unilorin pull out of ASUU, my lecturers were never under any union Industrial coourt no see that one

i will build a company invest billions then one court will tell me i dont have Right to take decisions i feel is best to protect my investment ... dey play

Olaide1295:
They will test this in court.
This is good for our legal system.

Test what in court " sack" .... you flaunt organisation terms and condition then run to court to do what

Every company have internal Rules, if its not favorable for you as an employee .. leave the place

weytin concern court

His company His Rules ... Nupeng and FG should employ them

AntiChristian:
If na tax be the problem are we not paying more tax when outside Nigeria? Paying tax is not the problem but misappropriation of funds and the masses getting food/basic amenities to survive!

Poor people won't be paying tax!

Like we've always said, Nigerians are not saying Tax is bad, You know this your question is uncalled for

You pay more taxes outside the country buh at the back of your mind your are so confident what the money will be use for ... it goes into welfare packages, good roads and other measures that make live convenient for the citizen.
In Us for instance every year their is a scheme called Tax refund .... benefits


If you think poor people aint paying taxes then you educated enough, there is Direct tax and Indirect tax.
That i am a poor man doesnt mean i dont consume goods and services .. indirect poor man pay Tax

what about VAT % its the same for All ... rich or poor, in real sense Tax falls on Us All dont let dem use propaganda n confuse you

IamNat:
BAT is not GEJ ooo, he already has his game plan, make dem do coalition from today till tomorrow, BAT go do second term, by then PDP and APC would have had 16years to run the country, it's that time that opposition should target to win back power, but 2027? Make them forget am.

B4 nkor BAT is not GEJ dem no carry same DNA,... Tinubu rigging plan depend on disunity of the Opposition ...

If Atiku can hands down and allow GEJ run ... Tinubu divide n rule strategy is Finished, he won in 2023 because Atiku and oBi shared Majority vote

AntiChristian:
They said they wanted to created something new! But who'll put a new wine in an old container?

GEJ again?

Dieziani-gate!

Dasuki-gate!

Chibok girls saga!

Useless oil boom!

I wonder what these guys discusses at their meetings!

And David Mark is a retired army brigadier general! He was with the military! A military governor of Niger state! Also a one-time minister of communication!

From 1999, He was a senator for 20 years out of which he became the 12th senate president from 2007-2015!

Na these ones be the new blood wey they find!

To begin with, whats New under the Sun ! every new person we have tried since 1999 till 2023 where did it take Us.
Our quest for always looking for Mr. integrity keeps landing on bigger Mess ... sometimes you have to setttle for the devil you know ... i cant imagine Tinubu 2nd Term we might be paying Tax to breath

Tinunu has nothing to offer Nigeria, high revenue that they are already looting

Slytiger:
Gathering of looters. Same toilet, different poop.

YEAH ! they are looters and corrupt as well we know, But you know what they have that Tinuhu and his dogs don't have ....

Human face and common $ense

Kaa4:
Even though there is unity of purpose among these ones,

I don't know why I feel this way.... We have seen this before; that time it succeeded, but this time around it will FAIL.

You might as well Add this to list of your Prayers, God refuse to answer.

Samantha125:
Well, I've never seen any SA billionaire's wife being addressed in accordance to her husband's net worth.

johann rupert is the richest man in SA, what about is wife ??

Are you sure billionaire wives in SA are running 8am - 5pm ... is that your final answer

Samantha125:
You guys also knew Regina far before marriage, the two ladies didn't give up their jobs just because they're married to billionaires.

Unfortunately, I don't know Rupert's wife, I've never heard of her before... In fact, I don't know any of SA billionaires' wives... They don't like grandstanding and prefer keeping things low profile.

Before you miss the point ... the title billionaire wife supercedes " profession/career title"

Mark zuckerberg as a wife buh most of Us dont know what she does for a living aside being a billionaire

even if those wives have businesses or professions the News will always address them as madam billionaire wife except they are to make a biography

Samantha125:
I don't know this Otedola's wife... Regina Daniels and Beyonce are married to billionaires, yet they're still doing their usual jobs.

Ummh ! Reginal i know , Beyonce we know far before marriage what a coincidence

how a billionaire wife thats not a celebrity before marriage, Rupert is the richest in SA you should know his wife

Samantha125:
If they're not village girls, then what do they do for a living besides being his wives?

The news didnt they are jobless wives anyways Buh on another POV what are billionaires wives know for

what is Otedola wife known for asides you dont know her naa otedola wife
Does johann rupert wife have a proffession above answering as a billionaire wife

C'mon samantha if you mistakenly marry a billionaire today .. you will still be running 7 - 5pm job ?? weytin salary wan contribute inside billionaire lifestyle 🤣 think rich

Samantha125:
Inheritances eventually dry out... They're probably just house wives from villages with zero skills.

Not these kind of inheritance, didnt you read the News naa billionaire ... dry out for where

You think a billionaire will settle for village gurls ... care to explain how they will meet

Naa dem pocohantas fit dey fear inheritance dry out inside marriage fit dem over buy bone straight wig ... we are talking billionaire here

nairalanda1:
You don't understand my point

Tax is not a means to prosperity. It's a means to raising revenue to.[/b] Especially since oil prices aren't favoring us.

Prosperity comes from your country economy being based on manufacturing and export of manufactured goods and services.

That is where apc is failing. Industrial economy

its one of the means of raising Revenue Not the only way to generate Revenue as Tinubu is trying to confuse us

Ok listen to yourself, in Tinubu case the more the Tax the More he borrows, or am i liein

Fine, every govt needs revenue But there are other better ways to generate solid revenue that will reflect protein on the economy than Tax ... we have agriculture, we have so many resources govt can facilitate ... Better n juicer than Tax thats my point

Countries that rely heavily on Tax go and check dem no get resources reach ..

grandstar:
What are you saying? It was Buhari that approved the borrowing of money to repair the obsolete refineries despite expert advise from Kackikwu.

What has Tinubu done differently? This is bizarre.

He ended the petrol subsidy about 5 decades after it was introduced.

He went against the Petroleum Industry Act by
allowing the importation of refined oils to prevent
Dangote from becoming a monopoly and charging exorbitant prices.
If it was OBJ or Buhari, they would have banned imports, and supported Dangote.

Alol, let even say it Buhari, he is PdP who brought Buhari

The charade repair was carried out under who ?? when Nigerians denounced Refinery are back n working ... which govt defended it with propaganda

Yeah ! Tinubu ended subsidy as his style of always punishing Nigerians ... buh what has that brought efficiency to NNPC,
Are you high or on weed, which petroleum act stops importation, was there anytime govt stopped issuing license to marketers so how did Tinubu save Us from monopoly ?? .. abi you think naa pikin you dey follow talk

Since he removed the subsidy .... mention one benefit you can point that Nigerians gained in return, can they even account for subsidy savings