₦airaland Forum

gidgiddy:
People like you are the reason Nigeria is the way it is. The coporate existence of Nigeria means nothing if Nigeria is not run the way it should be run. The Regions only threaten the corporate existence of Nigeria when the federal government steps out of line. You cannot afford to have an all powerful federal government in a country like Nigeria and expect oeace. You will be together but there will be no peace, and where there is no peace, there is no progress. What then is the point of your corporate existence?

We had 4 Regions that were controlling their own resources, controlling their own money, and that made them independent of government, progressing at their own pace, controlling their internal security

Then Gowon comes along abolishes those 4 Regions, takes away resource control and create 12 states. Those who came after Gowon trippled those 12 states to 36 states

Today, where is Nigeria?

Gidgiddy, you can see for yourself that the real enemy to not only your Biafra but to other nationalists like myself wanting to break free from this multicultural cesspit is the Zikist Marxist school of thought which the likes of Alexbells fully represent.


Your enemies are closer home to you than you imagine.

I want you to begin to review your views on the events of Jan 15, the biafran war and see it as a direct result from the Zikists in Enugu who were more committed to Marxism.

You are against our current system.

So am I.

Your only flaw is you assume it was imposed by others when it was a result of the Zikists under Ironsi's military dictatorship.

Those Zikists will later opt for plan B being Biafra as their mini one Nijeriya project .


Unfortunately for you, you falsely assume that this Nu Biafra movement is any different from the Zikist and Ojukwu's Biafraism. They are the same.

The only solution is to work with fellow nationalists in the south to restructure Nigeria back to her original template and from there have a clause for future seccesion.

gidgiddy:
You guys are really laughable, trying to defend the indefensible, coming up with every reason under the sun to defend Gowons actions

You cry about decree 34 that was a civil service matter, and give excuse for Gowon that abolished the Regions Nigeria had, created 12 states with decree 14, and even defend him for removing resource control, which is the bedrock of true federalism , with decree 15

You guys see the truth but keep lying because Nigeria is built on lies

You people could not do better that Ironsi. For 56 years, you people kept subdividing Nigeria into 36 states to make it as unitary as possible, and keep the fraud going on. You people knew that 4 Regions controlling their resources in Ironsi times was a big threat to the federal government

Congratulations, you spent 57 years making Nigeria world poverty capital and one of the most insecure countries on earth. Clap for your selves

Decree 34 was not just a mere civil service matter but a centrist decree that took the right of self governance from the regions and reduced them all to a collection of provinces.

You seem to think States are lesser than regions .

This is why I am referring you to the US system which Gowon adopted for you to see if states over there have limited powers compared to mere provinces.

You say it's a mere civil service matter. Ok. How can the regions be effectively run when their means of adminstration has been outsourced to a National Civil service that is regulated by a National Civil Service Commission which in turn is firmly in the hand of the federal military government ?


Are you ok?

Gidgiddy , are you seriously stating that states are lesser in autonomy than Ironsi's provinces ?

Do you know what a Province is ?

Ironsi's decree 34 reduced all the regions to local governments .

Go and read decree 34 again and see how Ironsi turned all regions to provisional zones .

Even the military governors where just governors by name as they had no power under decree 34 to administer their provinces without direct permission from the HoS.


Is this not worse than what we are practicing today?

The fallout of the unitary system was that it took resource control from the states and appropriated responsibilities hitherto meant for regions/states to the federal military government under what is now described as "exclusive list".

Pls stop lying abeg.

You have been overflogging this issue because you know it is a sour point for someone like you defending and promoting Biafraism.

gidgiddy:
You mean the same Gowon that abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had and created 12 states with Decree 14?

You mean the same Gowon that removed resource control with Decree 15?


You guys are laughable

States are no lesser than regions.

This is why even under the current centralised system, there are clamours from some select States to have the federal government hands off their affairs.

Are states in the US not more autonomous than regions in the UK?

gidgiddy:
And in 57 years, none of you Nigerians could restore us back to Regions, but actually took us to 36 states? You guys destroyed Nigeria, made it world poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth

Because both you guys in the SE and your partners in the north have been opposing any talk of returning to true federalism.

Name just one Ibo politician that has advocated for return to true federalism .

Protip: you can't because there has been not one single one.

Maybe if you guys joined the south in this clamour you will have the moral right to critisize the system but alas you haven't and will never ever do so.

gidgiddy:
Then that means nobody was better than Ironsi. If you come to power, and you could not do better than who you replaced, and end up doing worse, you lose the moral right to criticise the one that did better than you.

As for Ironsi concentrating too much power at the centre, how is that possible when we had 4 Regions that were controlling their resources

Today we have 36 states with no resource control.

Ironsi's decree 34 reduced all the regions to provinces and collapsed all their respective civil services into one consolidated national civil service that was to be regulated by a national civil service commission thereby denying regions the powers of self rule.

If all the ministries of finance and revenue generating offices ended up under central control of the federal military government how then can the regions be seen as being autonomous ?

Stop trying to be smart by half.

Decree 8 was rolled out by Gowon explicitly to abrogate decree 34 and to return Nigeria back to its original template but with more emphasis on autonomy.


War broke out and the entire nation was under military martial law .

After the war, Gowon continued with the war policy for financial reasons so as to both help rehabilitate and rebuild the SE and to pay off war debt.

Gowon was under intense pressure not to impliment decree 8 owing to oil becoming mainstay and the slightest opportunity the north got, they overthrew him.

States are no lesser than regions.

The system we are practicing is the executive style of government like in the US and you should know that states in the US are more independent than even regions in the UK or independent member states of the EU.


The issue here is that the north decided to continue Ironsi's template after the war because they saw more opportunity in it from looting the oil resources of the SS.

Do I blame the north ?

No.

And you shouldn't because they learnt from Ironsi's Zikist drawn decree 34.

So please rest this matter.

You are only fooling yourself by trying to pin this unitary system on Gowon.

Even Alexbells admits that it was Ironsi that rolled out this unitary system and he boasts openly about it here.


Stop accusing others of what you are guilty of.

Highlife217:
Why go where one is rejected? If Nigeria continues to disrespect and hold down the Igbo, the Igbo elites will start to move towards Biafra.

Bye bye

zigi:
You have a dark and horrible soul
May God judge you for such evil talk against a whole people that you probably don't even know well. May you reap whatever you are sowing today!

The people flogging you to remain at home you no see curse nah me?

May you receive that rubbish you posted a thousand folds today.

JealousCobra:
Keep fooling yourselves, in a wrestling a fighter who holds his opponent on the ground stays there with him. It is only those with common sense understands this! 😎

But nobody is doing Nzogbu village square wrestling with you.

Besides the only ones being pinned down are you guys.

So whose terrorising who?

Emlproperties:
I won’t be surprised if those are paid APC goobs praising Ekpa.

The idiots here like Igwe of pigs that is spewing his saliva everywhere here defending Ekpa and calling for war is an APC goon to as well ?

Like clockwork.


Something we saw in early 2022 when they were decieving themselves that they love Nigeria and Nigerians more than themselves.

Rejected at the polls, dismissed at the bar, shunned by the military , the 0koro has now returned to praising same Ekpa they said was an APC mole.


These people are really foolish.

How can an entire populace be so easy to read like a street navigation sign?

Brendaniel:
This had nothing to do with unitary government....

Talking trash as usual

onumadu:
His calling is to hate Igbo.
There are lots of them like that.
And to cover their tracks, they marry Igbo women.
Marrying Igbo women achieves two purposes for them:
(1) Provide cover to hate Igbo;
(2) Steal some Igbo genes and pass it down to their own kids.
Twisted, but true.

Ibo women are meant for recreational activities only?

I am more concerned in the victimhood that will begin to play after this away leg encounter.

Jungle don mature be dat.

Some people are not going to have a good night and day to come.

Femmyfamous4u:
It was Aguiyi Ironsi that introduced unitary government for selfish reasons. We were. doing well in regions.

The coup of Jan 15 was to prevent the federal house in Lagos from deliberating and granting a Plebescite for the creation of COR region out of the old eastern region.

The coup timing was done to prevent the house from reconvening after a long Christmas break.

The first thing on the docket was a motion to force for a Plebescite for the minority people trapped in the old eastern region whose request for one at Enugu had fell on deaf ears in the Ibo dominated house.

The coup was meant to halt the representatives of other three regions plus that of the minority people from reaching a final decision to pass a vote for a Plebescite.

The ibos then did the most unimaginable thing and staged an ethnic cleansing coup and purge of both our politica and military heirachy.

Decree 34 was already written weeks before the coup and even has reference to Jan 16 (a day after the coup ) as it's effective date . The decree was delayed out of fear of exposing the real motive behind the coup and those who benefited from it and so that's why it was passed four months later o 24th of May.

You can see all the hallmarks of Zik in that decree with its inviolability reference to it being a Unification Decree.

2. The National Public Service Commission may, with the approval of the Head of the National Military Government, either conditionally or unconditionally delegate any of its powers under subsection (1) above to any person or authority in Nigeria.

Further confirmation of centralising authority in managing the affairs of the now provisional regions by fiat appointment and directives from Ironsi and his Ibo dictatorship.

4.1 Subject to the provisions of this section, power to appoint persons to hold or act in offices in the National Public Service (including power to make appointments on promotion and to confirm appointments) and to dismiss and exercise disciplinary control over persons holding or acting in such offices shall, as from the appointed day, vest in the National Public Service Commission.

Appointments and terminations at the newly created National Public Service to be done by a National Public Service Commission.

0koro and Chinedu can be appointed to head the ministries of health , education in the northern civil service . This was something that the Sardunna had already purged the northern civil service of its colonial Ibo hangover employees.

3. 1. As from the appointed day all offices in the service of the Republic in a civil capacity shall be offices in a single service to be known as the National Public Service; and accordingly all persons who immediately before that day are members of the public service of the Federation or of the public service of a Region shall on that day become members of the National Public Service:

Chapter 3 deals with the abolition of all regional civil services that were consolidated into one and referred to as the Federal civil service.

The affairs of the regions now reduced to provinces were to be administered by a single federal service.

I will be taking Ironsi's decree 34 apart and explaining it in detail to you Gidgiddy and later post Gowon's decree 8 that sought to abrogate all of Ironsi's useless decrees.

The Unification Decree: No. 34 of 1966


Decree No. 34

[24th May 1966]



THE FEDERAL MILITARY GOVERNMENT hereby decrees as follows:

[b]Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as ‘the appointed day’) cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic [/b]of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation.

As from the appointed day
the Federal Military Government and the Federal Executive Council shall be known respectively as the National Military Government and The Executive Council;
the Federal territory shall be known as the Capital territory;
the provinces, including Kaduna capital territory, in schedule 1 of this Decree which immediately before the appointed day were respectively comprised in Northern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria, Western Nigeria and Mid-Western Nigeria shall be known respectively as the Northern group of Provinces, the Eastern group of Provinces, the Western group of Provinces and the Mid-Western group of Provinces;

You can see from section 2 , that Ironsi reduced each region to a province under the control of the military dictatorship.

gidgiddy:
Oh really? So why didnt those who came after Ironsi not remive the decree and take us to the next level? Today you have 36 states, poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth, none of which was existed under Ironsi


If you could not do better than Ironsi, no point criticising Ironsi

Decree 8 was passed by Gowon to undo the nonesense of Decree 34.

Then war broke out because Ojukwu insisted on dragging the newly created states of old Rivers and old Cross River into his Biafra.


Stop lying .

gidgiddy:
The last time a South Easterner led Nigeria, Ironsi, we still had 4 Regions and resources control, July 1966

We were rated with other countries such as China, South Korea and Singapore, all of whom have since left Nigeria bebind and zoomed ahead

Then came Gowon(NC), Murutala(NW), Obasanjo(SW), Shagari(NW), Buhari(NW), Babangida(NC), Shonekan(SW), Abacha(NW), Abubakar(NE), Obasanjo(SW), Yaradua(NW), GEJ(SS), Buhari(NW), Tinubu(SW)

A total of 57 of failure in which we have seen all 4 Region and resource control disappear, had civil war, had multiple military coups, seen 36 unviable states appear, witnessed multiple recessions, saw the Naira crash, watch the economy nosedive, become world poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth


Those who said they can do better, those who said they have the capacity to take Nigeria higher, those who said they have vision, only spent the last 57 years bringing Nigeria to the edge of hellfire where it now dangles precariously

The South East keeps watching

Stop this your useless lies.

It was you Ibos that destroyed the regional governments for a unitary system.

Why do you like to spew this lie day in day out ?

DamnnNiggarr:
just look at your life!
just take a look at you trolling on someone that has achieved what you and your entire generation couldn't and can never dream of.

A two-term governor of a mega Nigerian State that achieved and accomplished greater feats as a governor under the following subheadings:-

1. Fiscal Responsibility: One of the notable achievements of Peter Obi was his commitment to fiscal responsibility and prudence. He implemented financial measures that significantly reduced wasteful spending and enhanced transparency in the management of public funds. Under his leadership, Anambra State experienced significant improvements in its financial management and accountability.

2. Infrastructure Development: Obi prioritized infrastructure development in Anambra State. He initiated and completed several projects that improved the state's road network, healthcare facilities, and educational institutions. His administration consistently invested in infrastructural development, leading to tangible improvements in the overall well-being of the people of Anambra.

3. Education Reforms: Recognizing the importance of education, Peter Obi made significant strides in improving the educational sector in Anambra State. He implemented policies aimed at enhancing access to quality education, such as the construction of modern school buildings, provision of furniture and learning materials, and support for teachers' welfare. These efforts contributed to the overall improvement in educational standards in the state.

4. Economic Growth and Investment: Obi played a crucial role in attracting both local and foreign investments to Anambra State. Through strategic partnerships and policies, he created an enabling environment that promoted business growth and job creation. His focus on economic development contributed to increased revenue generation, which in turn facilitated the execution of development projects and improvements in the standard of living for the people of Anambra.

5. Healthcare Enhancements: Another notable achievement of Peter Obi's governorship was the improvement of healthcare services in Anambra State. He renovated and equipped hospitals and health centers, provided essential medical supplies, and prioritized the welfare of healthcare workers. These efforts led to enhanced access to quality healthcare for the residents of the state.

It's important to note that while you troll someone, troll with caution and also someone in your level.

Campaigns are over.

Elections are done and dusted

A new administration is in place .


Get over it

3 Nigerian Soldiers were brutally murdered in Imo state, this wannabe President said nothing .

An Izon woman ?

You dey dream.

spearman:
Elon Musk on Obidient losers: “There’s an old saying that ‘history is written by the victors,’ it’s like well, not if your enemies are still alive and have a lot of time on their hands to edit Wikipedia. The losers just got a lot of time on their hands.”

I understand your point.

They will be renting X space to spew their trash.


But it will be an echo chamber.

Make it for tartarfo posting members.


Me I no even dey any useless Twitter since 2015

Davicl:
idiat no time for online banter huh but don't also think you can't be picked from faceless forum too

Come and kill me