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osile2012:
[size=18pt]Well, What happens in between this illusion, determines when you get paid, who wins a football match, who graduates from a university, who is born etc.

Your life is running on this illusion. This post is determined by this illusion, Your age is determined by this illusion. Everything about your life is controlled by this illusion.
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So your point is, God is an illusion?

Good people doing good things. Evil people doing evil things.

Everybody chasing all their dreams because they know they have only one shot at life.

No one killing people in the name of God.

But time is an illusion. Does that mean God is an illusion too?

Is sex allowed in heaven?

What if a Christian is satisfied with living a good life in one lifetime here on earth and isn't interested in "eternity". Will God answer his /her prayer and allow them rest forever after they die?

People die everyday. Thank god you are not them.

Until you die. Then people will thank god they are not you.

He married his sisters duh.
God thinks incest is cool. Deal with it.

One question. When you're living "for eternity", does the ageing process stop? Cos it'll be uncool to spend 'forever' in adult diapers.

Judas is the forgotten star of Christian mythology. Without him Jesus isn't arrested, crucified and resurrected. Without Judas, there's no Christianity.

Hero

Jesus Christ turned water into alcohol.

The Son of God encourages you to sin.

xpac01:
I Just saw this on Facebook and thought it would be nice to share.
Lets put your logic to the test
Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you,
son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even
though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of
us would attempt to help others who are ill.
But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then?
Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s
start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there
evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And
GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality?
Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist
in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?
(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you
use to identify and observe the world around
you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your
GOD?

Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted
your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had
any sensory perception of GOD for that
matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable,
Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD
doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem
Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as
heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theater became very quiet with
this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even
more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a
little heat or no heat. But we don’t have
anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees
below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go
any further after that. There is no such thing
as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe
the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.
Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of
heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture
theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is
there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t
darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is
the absence of something. You can have low
light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.
But if you have no light constantly, you have
nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In
reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would
be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t
you?

Professor: So what is the point you are
making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical
premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise
of duality. You argue there is life and then
there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD.
You are viewing the concept of GOD as
something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It
uses electricity and magnetism, but has never
seen, much less fully understood either one. To
view death as the opposite of life is to be
ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as
a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the
absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you
teach your students that they evolved from a
monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural
evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution
with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile,
beginning to realize where the argument was
going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the
process of evolution at work and cannot even
prove that this process is an on-going
endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion,
sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has
ever seen the Professor’s brain?
(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever
heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or
smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So,
according to the established Rules of Empirical,
Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says
that you have no brain, sir. With all due
respect, sir, how do we then trust your
lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The Professor stared at
the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on
faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link
between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that
keeps things alive and moving.
P.S.
I believe you have enjoyed the conversation.
And if so, you’ll probably want your friends /
colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?
Forward this to increase their knowledge … or
FAITH.
By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.

Lies. This is pure fiction. Written by someone who doesn't understand science.

Plus Einstein was not religious.

Easy. Stroll into the cockpit, get in touch with air traffic control and land the plane like a badman.

Autopilot in modern planes can takeoff, cruise and land on their own anyway. I don't see how this is an issue.

An2elect2:
You have no point. How can rational men choose a different path they know nothing about and are not assured of over their jobs? With so many preferring to die cruelly than giving up their faith. How can something supernatural not be behind this 'different path'? Is it normal to you? Lie or explain it away, we all know it is beyond normal.

After their conversion, did they keep mute or spread what has been revealed to them to other nations? yes. Were the assured that the one that started this will preserve it till the end? yes Did they preach about wolves rising to scatter the beautiful plan of God but will be duly punished at the end? yes and so we see today. Did they preach that God will be with believers to the end of the world? absolutely yes.

The same one that made it exist in their own time, is the same behnd its continuous existence.

Too late, your assumptions of it existence being as a result of indoctrination cannot fly because they are mere assumptions.

You answered your own question. They are not rational men. They are irrational, illogical, uninformed men.

Explore almost any other religion, and you'll see your early Christians are not alone in facing persecution and oppression for thinking differently from the norm of their Era.

Every child is born with no concept of religion. Stop polluting their minds with your Jewish folklore.

An2elect2:
I didn't ask for no largest growth. I asked who indoctrinated the first Christians. Who made those Jewish fellows abandon their life ambitions for one Christ that you suppose never existed?

Like many other religions, they chose a different path that seemed like the best thing available to them at the time.

I attributed the persistent spread of Christianity in modern day to indoctrination, not it's inception.

Indoctrination. The reason it STILL EXISTS. Not the reason it started.

Richirich713:
I know that's a lie, The vast majority of Christians don't believe in evolution or the big bang theory.

And evens those few who do believe in the big bang also believe God cause the Big Bang.

Those few so called christians are the minority compared to the Billions of Christians who disagree with evolution and the big bang.

And I'm not just referring to christians, it's also Jews and Muslims and he many other religions that believe there is a God.

You misunderstood. I said the LEADERS of the sect of majority of Christians. ie. The Vatican has accepted those scientific theories as accurate.

You're allowed to disagree with anything you want to. You're allowed to ignore insurmountable evidence and choose to believe the theory of the origin of life as explained by prehistoric Jewish herdsmen. All your choice.

But you can't choose what is a fact. And facts remain true whether you choose to believe them or not.

An2elect2:
And who indoctrinated the first Christians?

Good question. The largest initial growth of Christianity started when it was chosen as the official religion of the Roman Empire. People had no choice. Believe or be killed.

Until just a few centuries ago, anyone in Christian nations who expressed the slightest doubt of the existence of God was burned alive.

A very efficient method that saw this form of insanity spread exponentially.

Richirich713:
Wrong again, mankind do believe God exists.

It's just u small group of people who don't.

Billions of people agree with me and billions of people disagree with u atheists.

Yes, a lot of people still believe in the concept of God, but a lot less of them take the bible seriously.

Even the Vatican, spiritual headquarters of the vast majority of Christians, have accepted that Evolution, the Big Bang Theory are true.

Open up your mind. Learn more about the world. Contrary to what they've fed you, knowledge will not kill you.

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The only reason Christianity still exists today is this. Childhood indoctrination. Feeding them all this irrational nonsense before they can start to think for themselves.

Richirich713:
What is laughable here is the way u atheists misinterpreted the Bible.

No where does the bible ever say God created the Rainbow when he made his covenant with noah.

No where does the Bible say Noah gather animals grouped in species nor does the bible ever say Noah should gather microorganisms.

U people are just giving ur own interpretation instead of interpreting the Bible in the correct way.

You're blaming the wrong being here.

Your God had one chance to send out a divine text, to make all of mankind believe he exists. The best he could do was this. A mashed up compilation of books filled with numerous discrepancies and contradictions.

Then people like you claiming to be officially designated interpreters.

Truly laughable.

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My favourite part of this story is the laughable claim that this is the invention and origin of rainbows.

Those prehistoric herdsmen who wrote this were clueless. But you really can't blame them.

It's modern day believers of this folklore, with all the access to information that they have, that have no excuse to remain ignorant.

Christians spend half their day every Sunday learning about how they're going to hell.

If you believe in an all-powerful God, then by definition he knows the future and everything that happens and will happen are His intentions.

But of course I'm sure you've realized you have the free will to make the life changing choices you desire.

Your destiny is in your hands. Happiness in a marriage is based on the compatibility between a man and his spouse, accompanied with the mutual decision and effort from both of them towards making it work.

Goodluck.

paulGrundy:
Bro, I love your conviction.

My conviction lies in the reality that all organised religion is bullshit.

I find it funny that Christians can't agree amongst themselves on who is serving the true God in the proper way.

You're my favorite sect of Jesus worshipers. Your complete disregard for the accepted doctrines and aggressive perseverance in spreading your message is nothing short of inspiring.

DoubleDeeX:
Quoting what you do not have the wisdom to decipher....Smh! The Bible is a spiritual book; you can't understand it by carnal wisdom! I'll advice you to stop fighting it carnally!

Matthew 13:10-11

Then the disciples came to Jesus and asked, Why do You speak to the people in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Psalm 78:2

I will open my mouth with a parable; I will utter hidden things, things from of old.

Now you know why Jesus Christ taught his disciples in parables! Not everything is as it seems...

Only those who are spiritually alive would understand the things of the spirit of God... Walking zombies can't understand things like the scriptures you quoted!

You cannot be living in the delusion of atheism and expect to understand the things of the spirit of God. Come out of that delusion first and seek God; then when the contact is established, His word will make sense to you!

My 2cents!

Why and how would I seek that which does not exist?

You are entitled to believe anything you choose to. But when your personal beliefs contradict established facts about the universe, they become personal delusions.