winner01:
Its is a clear redline, give scientific facts that discredits the Bible.

winner01:
Seems we have someone who knows that atheism is a scam.
A man from an unknown sect.

winner01:
How do they discredit the Bible

winner01:
No, but the fact that there is a settled calm and order. Going by your logic, i expect the universe to be chaos, including our extraordinarily perfect earth.

winner01:
Which one you dey, abi u nor get name

winner01:
This is a serious unsubstantiated claim.
You mind explaining the finetuning of the universe, if you answer is "random processes", dont even bother.

winner01:
if you werent so close minded, you'd have noticed that no scientific findings discredit the Bible.

winner01:
Mind telling us how science is related to atheism.
thanks.

KingEbukasBlog:


cut the chase and explain the trick . I need a clean neat explanation of the trick employed

BETATRON:
lol...SCIENCE CANNOT PROVE the existence of a divine being..is it a scientific fact that the non-existence of prove equals the non-existence of the entity not proved?.

Science cannot disprove GOD..yeah right..so how does this conform with atheism?

Science and religion are on two separate paths..surprisingly there exists countless number of scientist who are thiests and have excelled in their various fields

KingEbukasBlog:


Please explain it already . I asked for relevant explanations

winner01:
Science and Religion are not on different paths, its atheists that make it look as such.
Atheists employ science to remain valid when in reality, science has nothing to offer atheism.

No scientific findings discredits the Bible, instead it confirms the truths in the Bible.

Science make it difficult not to believe in God. An example is the scientist i referred to in this thread.
Try harder, science and atheism arnt synonymous.

engrsoma:


the likes of you, have gone far enough to read the history of the Bible etcetera without opening the bible, what use? just to discredit the bible?

KingEbukasBlog:


Please stop . Dont say scientific disciplines because even in software development . The software engineers are meant to produce software in response to the changing needs of the customers (Evolution) . That's why you have versions of software . But you notice that software doesn't update on its on will but requires the S.Es to work as regards to the new specifications from the customers or trying to fix bugs in the the previous versions - iteratively in some cases .



This is in relation to the first comment : If evolution is true , then God or the supernatural is responsible for it (theistic evolution ) .



1.The Pope is not God and has no right to declare for christians if evolution is true or not . He is trying to imply theistic evolution which apparently you are not aware of as you quickly dug out this article in your quest to ridicule the christian belief . Lemme ask you is the creation story literal or figurative ?

2.He is trying to please the science world by insinuating that christianity is no longer in the "dark ages" and should "grow" as more "scientific discoveries" are made



Were you there when the cows or hippos or bears turned into whales ? You just accepted the theory ignorantly or better still with faith - hoping that your "studies" are a reflection of what actually took place



That a single cell got us 8.7 million species each having different complexities ? This is not the "jokes" section

Writing codes ? You've made sense admitting that mind produces mind and evolution if true then it was orchestrated by the SUPERnatural , following a blueprint - in a bid to create varieties .



Making assertions to enforce your theory is being "mentally indolent " - in plaetton's own words - and yes dogmatic . Have you ever thought of if the functions of these " unevolved organs or body parts " are just obscure ?

Before refuting my statement , did you ask yourself why sex is pleasurable for humans ? Why do humans have emotions ? Because it was an evolutionary need will be your answer

So you didn't see the concentration of sensory nerve endings in the cli.toris and pen.is as a design ? Do you know why females evolved the cli.toris - an organ just for sexual pleasure .

KingEbukasBlog:


Your show of hostility is unwarranted here . Evidence that cows , hippos or bears could transform into whales ? What is that , a magic show ? Or asserting that whatever is present as a human feature was an evolutionary need ? Its more like evolution-of-the-gaps

Blockhead ? Please ... please...dont pour your frustration on me . I'm a computer science student and I've used a little of robotics's perspective to show the theory does not exist .

KingEbukasBlog:


Bears , cows or hippos turning into whales . Did you even read the comments ? A good online reader should be eager to know opposing views in the comments section .

KingEbukasBlog:


Please Chizzled06 abeg do me a great favour and refute every single point made

KingEbukasBlog:


I've had enough of this evolution nonsense

1. The theory falls flat when you talk of whales , camels , penguins, earthworms , pigeons etc

2. The theory falls flat when you talk of sexes - male and female - and the complexity of their reproduction systems

3. The theory falls flat when you talk of organs like the tongue , brain, heart

4. The theory falls flat when you talk of fruits , yes the fruit you eat

5. The theory falls flat when you talk of proteins

6. The body has the propensity to heal wounds , the theory falls flat when it tries to explain how and why

7 The theory of evolution falls flat when you actually study insects , see how the very tiniest possesses life and carry out its daily activities

8 The theory falls flat when you talk about how and why we feel pain . How could a complex system like it be developed by chance ? Your ability to feel pain and the response to the extent of damage is simply amazing

9 The theory falls flat when you compare natural intelligence to artificial intelligence just like I explained to Chizzled06 . These evolutionists fail to see the brain as designed but yap about how complex it became through evolution . Functions of the brain like learning and attaining perfection are brilliantly being tried to be replicated in artificial intelligence .

10 The theory falls flat when you talk of emotions - why we love , hate , get angry, why we forgive , why we show happiness , sadness . Why and how did we evolve such ?

KingEbukasBlog:


You couldn't refute my earlier post and you call me unintelligible? You ignorant fodder

you sound pained .. really pained

Isn't it time to consult your ancestors for guidance

This one existed close to 11 million years ago , he knows more about the earth than you do

KingEbukasBlog:


Stop using this ludicrous concept of time being an illusion to deny the existence of a creator . You cannot even evidently defend your stance .

Pfft

winner01:
You can as well say space is an illusion, we live in these dimensions mr.

Salvation is not indoctrination, salvation is what you need. Why not humble yourself before God and ask Him to still your anxious heart towards rebellion.

winner01:
Yeah "Everything that exists must have a creator", may not apply to the One who created time. You should focus more on probing your existence first. If you wanna believe that from nothing came everything, you can go ahead, its called freewill, You make your choice.

I was not born into this "someone else's fantasy". But by grace, ever since i became a child of the living God, my life has shapened for the better. You should also taste and see that God is good.

KingEbukasBlog:


Emotions too arrived late right ? Mtcheew ! Do you know what a blueprint is ? What design plan was the brain following that it had to evolve these features ? Why did the brain evolve to get this features ? So it actually just brought up emotions and feelings own its own . What ever activities that go on in the brain is because it was designed to do so .

Do you know how hard scientists are trying to design humanoid robots to attain self-awareness or know how consciousness works . Do you know how difficult it is to develop artificial intelligence ? Just recently after so many years in robotics, latest inventions suggest that robots can now learn from their mistakes and even improve on their former output . Mind produces mind . But there is a point where it becomes an uncaused cause precludes infinite regress and that's God .

Admitting that nature is designed is not mythology its actually science (the study of nature ) . Deal with it God exists . Even some scientists like Hawkings hold this belief that humanity can be obliterated by robots . That's rebellion - an exhibition of free will . Because they believe that a major breakthrough in robotics could rise to any kind of robots having a mind of its own , making its own decisions on its own will and not adhering to any algorithmic solution pattern .

You as a human are exercising your free will . You are even being rebellious and trying to upstage God's glory as a creator and insinuating you came from nothing . Because you were designed to have a mind of your own - take your own decisions with or without reasoning , make your own choices . A far greater mind made us . I mean even robots in coming years will take up jobs - a newly developed mind producing something new

Everything is getting automated soon . The level of efficiency of robots keeps increasing because they were designed that way . Their intelligence didn't "evolve" , they are designed to get better when they repeatedly do a task . You are designed after creation by God to attain an certain level of intelligence . And this progress is designed to be passed on unto the next generation until God's plan for mankind is achieved.

Deal with it man , God exists