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Kobojunkie:
lol..
The funny is what Paul really said was that Abraham, by paying 1/10th to Melchizedek, who he, Abraham, never paid to again after that one , he, Abraham paid our entire tithe debt forever.

The only place where tithing is used according the formulae specified by God is in the Old Covenant days where it is thoroughly defined in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy (you can only understand the old law of tithing by reading through all 4 books at least)

That is a lie. God instituted the tithing system as a way of ensuring that the Levites, who had no inheritance in the new land, would still taken care of as His people too.
Tithe was never designed to be paid to God, and it was at no point used to pay God. God never asked His people to give Him money.

Tithe was set up to ensure that no one in the land went hungry. The first 2 years tithes were to be eaten by the one who gathered it, along with those who had nothing. The third year, much of the tithe was given to the Levites and the rest to those who were poor.

Tithe was set up to ensure obedience to God. The specifics of God's tithing formulae can again be found by reading through the pentateuch. Anyone who knows God will know that God will never accept anything less than that which He commands. And to make sure of it, God designed His tithing formulae in such a way that it cannot be easily copied by anyone, even the so-called MOGs of today.

Anyone who tithes according to man's formulae and not according to God's formulae is worshipping God in vain because we all know God will never accept any sacrifice that is not according to His Will.


Wrong! :Give unto Caesar what is Caesars.... " refers more to paying applicable taxes with the appropriate currency. The temple sacrifices and dues that were used in the temple were collected in shekels. However the tax instituted by the Romans were paid in Roman coins with Caesar's face on the coin. Again if you read the old Covenant laws, you would see where God stated how much a vow, for example was paid off for. He, God stated the exact currency to be used in such transactions within His temple. Jesus Christ affirmed God's command by adding "...give unto God what is God's"


Jesus Christ never handed over His Church to His apostles. He told them that He and He alone is teacher to all His followers. He warned His disciples against getting disciples of their own i.e He was the only Master/ Rabbi/ Teacher/ Instructor for His flock.

Before He left, He told them that He would send the Spirit of God to them. And that the Spirit would be their only teacher/counselor/ comforter / Helper /guide.

His followers were to obey Him, Jesus Christ, and Him alone because He alone commands His followers and He alone teachers His followers.

To be addressed later

From all you have said, I can see that you are still ignorant. First you should pray to God for the gift of understanding his words not as you wish but as how he wants you to understand them with an open mind.

Then you open your bible, read it from the beginning to the end, letter by letter, word by word, chapter by chapter, books by books, letters by letters, from Old testament to New testament. When you are done if you cannot see where you have been Ignorant. You should continue to pray for understanding and keep reading your bible.

The old testament and the new testament are interwoven and understand is required to truly see the connection. That's all I have to say to you. A Christian does not argue he just speaks the truth. You are free to call my comment what ever you wish I have nothing to say to you.

Kobojunkie:
I hate to tell you this but it has to be said. Your claim that your mother tithes and it works for her is a lie, because your mother does not tithe according to what God commanded. So for the sake of her everlasting soul, i suggest you open that bible to learn what tithing really is, how it works and how your mother can do it right.

I want to believe that you are speaking to the wrong person, for if you have read my comment you will note that I did not mention anything about somebody's mother paying tithe as that was not the focus of my comment.

If you are sure you read chris4sur's comment on tithe, then I have nothing to say to you for you are Just been ignorant.

Championxxx:
I am 23 years old guy I ave been staying with my brother in Abuja for the past 8 years , I help him with his shop and his house , everything was fine till he got married his wife carry his two sisters to the house 24 and 19 years old , he said I should leave my room for them I didn’t argue I let them have the room while I am sleeping in the parlour , during lockdown this girl will wake and come to the parlour to watch tv to disturb my sleep , I complained to my brother he said I should keep calm he will speak to his wife which he never does and these girls kept disturbing me meanwhile the older girl stopped but the younger one carry on and I told her to stop disturbing me she has a phone she can press her phone in their room , she insulted me and told me to go and marry I got angry and ask her to leave she said I should do my worst and I landed a thunder slap in her face she held me by my neck screaming when my bro and wife came his wife started hitting me on my back I had to leave the house and went outside to cool down , my brother followed me and said I didn’t do well by hitting his wife sister he said I should go and apologise to his wife and sister , I refuse and asked him why he didn’t stop them when I was complaining bitterly about them but he waited for me to take matter to my own hand now he blamed me he said I should apologise which I did to his wife but not to the girl but that small girl was expecting me to knelt down and beg her , I told her she will wait for eternity.

Since the incidence his wife stopped talking to me , she ordered her sister’s to stop giving me food , the older girl used to dish food for me sometimes when she is not around but I told her to stop because I don’t want her to be in trouble with her sister and I didn’t report to my brother, it’s not a big deal for me I buy foods and eat at work and I only go home to sleep , 2 weeks ago I came home to see my mattress outside in the rain soaking wet , I was confused because it was supposed to be inside the girl room that’s where I keep it and they always bring it for me when is time for me to sleep so how come it was outside in the rain , I asked them they both denied they didn’t take it out and I suspected my brother wife or her youngest sister were the one who did it because they didn’t want me in the house anymore , I told my brother he said I should sleep on the sofa and in the morning I will get a new mattress in his shop but the wife get angry that I will damaged her sofa she wanted me to sleep on the floor with a wrapper but my brother refuse and I slept on the sofa , the next day I spoke with my brother I told him because I am not wanted in his house I don’t have peace of mind there , I want him to rent a self cont for me closer to the shop so It will be easier for me to get to work he refuse saying when he has a bigger house why would I go and leave alone , he said he provide all my needs and the rest the way his wife and sisters are treating me it doesn’t matter that he will never allow me and I told him I want to go back to the village , he said if I leave his house he will disown me and I will not longer be his brother , for 3 days now he stopped talking to me even if I greet him he won’t reply I feel hurt. I love my brother I want to serve him but I don’t want to stay in his house . I don’t know if I did something wrong by asking him to rent a room for me to be living alone? Am confuse please advice me

Championxxx, If you get to read this you are a lucky man. Veave has already given the best plan of action for you to take. I would only add to her advice to you. Everything she has told you would make you succeed and be a boss of your own. Just like your elder brother, anything other than that could bring serious regrets to you later in future. Veave has your best interest at heart.

What I just have to tell you is that your elder brother married a wicked woman, she would reap her own share of what she and her sisters are doing to you keep that in mind. You should pity your brother that has married such a Jezebel. Protect him as much as you can till you become a boss of your own and leave that house.

Just follow what Veave has told you to the end and you will be fine.

veave:
Errrrrr. You go need patience oooo.

One thing you should know is that your brother is now married and is firstly responsible to his wife and kids before any other person so him allowing three extended family to stay in this hard times is an act of kindness and bravery please don't add more stress to his life by bickering with your in-laws. We women are troublesome by nature then when we see someone who has our time we extend the trouble. The truth is
1. There is no way the room would have been left for you while there are women in the house (they need privacy).
2. Why will you say that you will go to the village? Don't you know you give your brother some kind of security in the midst of his wife and her obviously troublesome sisters by staying with him? Has he asked you to leave yet?
3. You where wrong to slap the young woman, no matter what the grieviance is you don't touch a woman.
4. They where wrong to throw your mattress out but please forgive them and move on. Thank God your brother made provisions for a replacement.
5. Take this place as a training ground for your future, if it's anything you should be bothered about now, is to be more determined about gaining independence and making it in life.
6. Leave rofo rofo fight for women, in fact ignore them totally for your national peace.
7. Hustle!!! Hustle!!! Hustle oooooo!!!!

Hugs.

Championxxx, If you get to read this you are a lucky man. Veave has already given the best plan of action for you to take. I would only add to her advice to you. Everything she has told you would make you succeed and be a boss of your own. Just like your elder brother, anything other than that could bring serious regrets to you later in future. Veave has your best interest at heart.

What I just have to tell you is that your elder brother married a wicked woman, she would reap her own share of what she and her sisters are doing to you keep that in mind. You should pity your brother that has married such a Jezebel. Protect him as much as you can till you become a boss of your own and leave that house.

Just follow what Veave has told you to the end and you will be fine.

I thank God the victim is still alive and receiving treatment. Where did he get the gun from? It is just a pity that people would use a gun to threaten the life of an innocent man who is not even a threat to his own life.

Where are we heading to in this country? This is a very serious issue that the government needs to seriously look into(Possession of ammunition)

Chris4sur:
Truth be said every Christian that leave on this earth need to pay tithe to their creator. It is an obligation we have to fulfill, for we are all children of Abraham by faith according to Apostle Paul in the new testament. We should therefore follow the foot steps of our father Abraham as he paid tithe. If you go through the Bible thoroughly you will find there reason and benefits why you should pay tithe, I have already mentioned some of these reasons above.

Tithe is meant to be paid to our creator, to glorify him and remind us that all we are and have came from God at the beginning of creation, it's our human way of saying to him thank you God, for what you have given me, in faith.

Jesus Christ came to earth with the sole purpose of salvation for the entire human race and he encourage the Jews to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar not just in words but he put them in action also. Therefore, I say to you give to God what belongs to God in its fullest measure(10%) and more if you can. You can cheat man and he may not know but not your Creator he is all seeing with sight reaching everywhere you can think of.

Jesus Christ Instituted the Church, and handed it over to his apostles. Therefore I say to you support the church and the pastors with your tithe. As Christian which means follower of Christ would you want or like the only gift that Jesus Christ who United us with the father be lost or forgotten certainly not. The church is his gift to us and we should cherish it as much as it remains the dwelling place of God.

Jesus Christ is God and he has told to us that he and the father are one, the father is the creator and therefore Jesus Christ is also the creator. Jesus Christ has also said what ever you do unto these least or poor brothers/sisters of mine you do onto me. You do onto your creator too, If I give to the poor, I give to Jesus Christ, If I give to Jesus Christ, I give to the Father, If I give to the father, I am giving to my creator.

I speak the truth tithe can also be given to the hungry, the thirsty, the homeless, the sick and in general those who your heart and conscience tells you are desperately in need. When you give these people give anonymously to them, the full measure of you tithe, Remember you gave tithe to your creator that's the right way to view it and not you helping them but God is helping them. Leave a caring Christian message with the tithe to remind them that God cares for them. Do this anonymous too.

Jesus Christ died to save the entire human race, not only Christian but non Christians too. Therefore I say to you do not discriminate when you decide to give your tithe. For it is the wish of the Son(Jesus Christ) that everyone makes heaven, but he has given us free will and has not made us his slaves but his children what a Loving God. Give in faith that you can change the life of a Christian/non Christian to be a lover of God.

For Jesus Christ said if you love me you will keep my commandments, his commandments are just a summary of his Father's commandments given to the Prophet Moses. The essence of me writing this is to create awareness to my fellow Christians on how you can pay your tithe.

Evangelize this message to your fellow Christians. God bless you.

Read and share this to help you and fellow Christians understand tithe better

Chris4sur:
Truth be said every Christian that leave on this earth need to pay tithe to their creator. It is an obligation we have to fulfill, for we are all children of Abraham by faith according to Apostle Paul in the new testament. We should therefore follow the foot steps of our father Abraham as he paid tithe. If you go through the Bible thoroughly you will find there reason and benefits why you should pay tithe, I have already mentioned some of these reasons above.

Tithe is meant to be paid to our creator, to glorify him and remind us that all we are and have came from God at the beginning of creation, it's our human way of saying to him thank you God, for what you have given me, in faith.

Jesus Christ came to earth with the sole purpose of salvation for the entire human race and he encourage the Jews to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar not just in words but he put them in action also. Therefore, I say to you give to God what belongs to God in its fullest measure(10%) and more if you can. You can cheat man and he may not know but not your Creator he is all seeing with sight reaching everywhere you can think of.

Jesus Christ Instituted the Church, and handed it over to his apostles. Therefore I say to you support the church and the pastors with your tithe. As Christian which means follower of Christ would you want or like the only gift that Jesus Christ who United us with the father be lost or forgotten certainly not. The church is his gift to us and we should cherish it as much as it remains the dwelling place of God.

Jesus Christ is God and he has told to us that he and the father are one, the father is the creator and therefore Jesus Christ is also the creator. Jesus Christ has also said what ever you do unto these least or poor brothers/sisters of mine you do onto me. You do onto your creator too, If I give to the poor, I give to Jesus Christ, If I give to Jesus Christ, I give to the Father, If I give to the father, I am giving to my creator.

I speak the truth tithe can also be given to the hungry, the thirsty, the homeless, the sick and in general those who your heart and conscience tells you are desperately in need. When you give these people give anonymously to them, the full measure of you tithe, Remember you gave tithe to your creator that's the right way to view it and not you helping them but God is helping them. Leave a caring Christian message with the tithe to remind them that God cares for them. Do this anonymous too.

Jesus Christ died to save the entire human race, not only Christian but non Christians too. Therefore I say to you do not discriminate when you decide to give your tithe. For it is the wish of the Son(Jesus Christ) that everyone makes heaven, but he has given us free will and has not made us his slaves but his children what a Loving God. Give in faith that you can change the life of a Christian/non Christian to be a lover of God.

For Jesus Christ said if you love me you will keep my commandments, his commandments are just a summary of his Father's commandments given to the Prophet Moses. The essence of me writing this is to create awareness to my fellow Christians on how you can pay your tithe.

Evangelize this message to your fellow Christians. God bless you.

Read this and share with your fellow Christians

gaius01:
I concur bro

I thank God for giving you understand of what I shared. Please do evangelize the message. Have a wonderful week a head.

Truth be said every Christian that leave on this earth need to pay tithe to their creator. It is an obligation we have to fulfill, for we are all children of Abraham by faith according to Apostle Paul in the new testament. We should therefore follow the foot steps of our father Abraham as he paid tithe. If you go through the Bible thoroughly you will find there reason and benefits why you should pay tithe, I have already mentioned some of these reasons above.

Tithe is meant to be paid to our creator, to glorify him and remind us that all we are and have came from God at the beginning of creation, it's our human way of saying to him thank you God, for what you have given me, in faith.

Jesus Christ came to earth with the sole purpose of salvation for the entire human race and he encourage the Jews to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar not just in words but he put them in action also. Therefore, I say to you give to God what belongs to God in its fullest measure(10%) and more if you can. You can cheat man and he may not know but not your Creator he is all seeing with sight reaching everywhere you can think of.

Jesus Christ Instituted the Church, and handed it over to his apostles. Therefore I say to you support the church and the pastors with your tithe. As Christian which means follower of Christ would you want or like the only gift that Jesus Christ who United us with the father be lost or forgotten certainly not. The church is his gift to us and we should cherish it as much as it remains the dwelling place of God.

Jesus Christ is God and he has told to us that he and the father are one, the father is the creator and therefore Jesus Christ is also the creator. Jesus Christ has also said what ever you do unto these least or poor brothers/sisters of mine you do onto me. You do onto your creator too, If I give to the poor, I give to Jesus Christ, If I give to Jesus Christ, I give to the Father, If I give to the father, I am giving to my creator.

I speak the truth tithe can also be given to the hungry, the thirsty, the homeless, the sick and in general those who your heart and conscience tells you are desperately in need. When you give these people give anonymously to them, the full measure of you tithe, Remember you gave tithe to your creator that's the right way to view it and not you helping them but God is helping them. Leave a caring Christian message with the tithe to remind them that God cares for them. Do this anonymous too.

Jesus Christ died to save the entire human race, not only Christian but non Christians too. Therefore I say to you do not discriminate when you decide to give your tithe. For it is the wish of the Son(Jesus Christ) that everyone makes heaven, but he has given us free will and has not made us his slaves but his children what a Loving God. Give in faith that you can change the life of a Christian/non Christian to be a lover of God.

For Jesus Christ said if you love me you will keep my commandments, his commandments are just a summary of his Father's commandments given to the Prophet Moses. The essence of me writing this is to create awareness to my fellow Christians on how you can pay your tithe.

Evangelize this message to your fellow Christians. God bless you.

I know nothing can be done to bring this young entrepreneur back to life. Entrepreneurs if you find a thief in your property that has stolen, it is a fools errand to confront them, that was his biggest mistake and it cost this young man his life. It is better to go to the police anonymous and submit your evidence of the theft commited and make sure they are arrested and pay for damages.